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promise10:
You guys can't cease amazing me in your delusion.

God is NOT bothered of your unbelief, your unbelief simply has NO effect on his reality. So, he is not allowing miracles to happen, so that you guys can see how deluded you are. He doesn't care about your belief system!


This only exposes your delusion the more! Even if he involves doctors in this, will that still make it clear enough for you people to believe? Because even if he involves a doctor, you guys still have some questions to ask to make you look bright to yourself.

What if he bribes the doctors? What if it was staged? What if she lied for jesus? What if she just wanted to deceive people? What if.....what if......and what if....? These are the kinds of questions most of you will still ask if doctors were involved.


The worst thing you can do is to wish that it is unreal, which is just a mere wishful thinking. So sit down and expect more testimonies.

You want me to believe in a miracle.? Let Joshua or any other self-proclaimed man of God grow an amputated leg to normal

What miracle can be more believable than this!

promise10:
Yea, of course! Anyone can do this. Even darwkins right? Hope to see you and all your atheists do this?

This is the ONLY way you can expose your foolishness!

You wish you could make it unreal, but that's not working. There is NOTHING you can do about it!!

As for spirituality of miracles, this is just the beginning. It is the simplest way of leading people out of the delusion of the impossibility of miracles.

Just go and enjoy your delusion!

Sorry bro!
I am not sure if you made a valid point.

This "miracle" can be performed by anyone including me and you. . I see no difference between this and a nollywood movie.

I want to see TB Joshua grow an amputated leg back to normal
or
Cure a certified HIV patient. Doctors will be on ground to confirm the persons status and retest the person after oga TB Joshua must have performed his magic.

Unless I can independently verify this two things. For now he is just a con artist

Laye!

I want to see TB Joshua grow an amputated leg back to normal
or
Cure a certified HIV patient. Doctors will be on ground to confirm the persons status and retest the person after oga TB Joshua must have performed his magic.

Unless I can independently verify this to things. For now he is just a con artist

frenchwine:
That's not what I want to point out ,STIs like warts, Hep B and Herpes don't even need to pass through the condom. Once the infected partner's fluid comes in contact with you Lobatan!
Abstinence is the gold standard, after that comes Be Faithful to your partner.

In as much as I will want to agree with you that abstinence is the safest. Condom do provide a great degree of protection when used correctly and consistently.

I am not sure of the bolded tho

cekhoe:
yes, there are some STIs are that are small enough to go through the pores of a condom but it better than not using at all

And condoms has pores? I took a condom, pour liquid clear water in it and couldn't notice any leakage.

Any condom that has leakage (when poured water) is a badly manufactured condom.

Not sure I will agree with you

Marvel1206:
why are you derailing the topic? Are you that pained?

I am not pained bro.

But I find it reprehensible that anyone with a subdued intellect, will choose to rain invectives on someone intelligent enough to jettison a life in dogmatic believes and superstitions, someone who is brilliant enough to reason critically and eschew a belief in invisible sky daddy.

If you believe a god can save you, then why do you run to a hospital or pharmacist in the event you fall sick.

Oh a god is interested in saving the OP but this same god is not interested in saving all the millions of children dying of malaria every year. The god created malaria that kills children and adults evry year. He should first of save humanity from the scourge of malaria.

All the advancement (in medicine, engineering, technology, construction etc) humans has made in the past couple centuries is due to the industry of man and man's desire and drive to better her lot.

Tell me one thing this god has done for the collective good of humanity

Tell me good thing religion has brought to humanity. None! Instead religion has wrought death, ostracizement, misogyny, hate, discrimination to name but a few

A god interested in human welfare DOES NOT EXIST.

sexychocho:
Can't biliv wat I heard abt Seun 2day

Are u guys kidding?

I pray itz nt too late for those dat doesn't biliv God exist

O ga gannnnnn ni oooooo

Ur god if he/she/It exist is evil.
He created evil(Isaiah 45:7),

How anyone will want to believe and worship such a being is baffling

Let's discuss your God a little

Your God,

created mosquito that kills millions through malaria per year( mostly children. )

He endorsed slavery, endorsed misogyny, committed genocide,

Is so insecure that he requires constant worship and reassurance.

Loves the smells of burnt flesh... Lol

Kill himself (Jesus) to forgive sin. Something he could have just done as an all powerful god without having the need to sacrifice himself.

hardened the heart of Pharoah and in turn punish him for having a hardened heart... Lol... What a Savage god

Sends his sparring partner Satan down from heaven to earth to play tricks and torment his allege creation instead of just eliminating him or perhaps forgive him

Has refused to forgive Satan but told us to forgive our enemies. Hypocrisy!

This ur god will have no problem roasting billions of people in fire for eternity for not loving him back. What a sadistic god!


Your baby killing god, killed all the first born children of Egypt, kills all animals because Pharoah never let his "people" go. A disobedience he himself initiated. What an evil god.

If u believe that slavery is wrong and misogyny is wrong, just have it in mind that you are more moral than this ur god .


Any one with half a brain require little reason to come to a conclusion that this god character as depicted in the bible doesn't exist. He was made up by ancient men just to control peoples mind. This god has no place in modern world.

Don't let your intellect to be subdued for this long. Start thinkin

bitingcool:
Walahi, I have never seen him attack an op like that before, apparently, he played mainly on the ops 'immaturity ' and respect of him

No one cares if you're an atheist. Even the bible says 'the fool will say there is no God '. Not me, the bible

@ op. Next time, ignore comments that do not sit well with you. You made your point, and I commend you. Don't ever feel the need to justify yourself to anyone. no one here is worth it. They ain't your lecturers nor did they purchase your mb. Take pride in your belief in God. It's the wise path to follow.
Take care.

So ur point?

Can any serious person take the bible(horror book) serious

The same bible also says that anyone who calls a man a fool is hellbound and also says anyone who doesn't believe in its nonsense stories Is a fool. What a confused book

It is the same bible(God) that endorsed slavery, ask slaves owners to beat up their slaves anyhow they like even if the slaves goes into coma for days - it is right(exodus 21:20)

It is the bible that endorsed misogyny,

The same bible endorsed the killing of homosexuals,

The same bible erroneously claim that the earth was in existence before the sun

The same bible erroneously posit that the earth is a few thousand years

The same bible says the earth and the universe were created the same time at the very beginning (Genesis 1:1)

The same bible says snake talked in perfect human diction, donkeys spoke.. Lol

The same bible erroneously thinks the earth was flat

The same Jewish comic /horror book called the bible that is liased with blatant contradictions and fables cannot be taken seriously unless anyone is dumb enough to suspend reason and critical thinking to believe in the nonsense fictional book call bible.

validstar1:
Your mind is made up already... I'll only be wasting my data trying to convince you.Follow ur beliefs.

Bro embrace reason and critical thinking. Stop living in dogmatic religious beliefs.

If such powerful god exist, his existence will be so discernable, testable and revealing to all and sundry. There won't be controversy surrounding his existence. No one will call into question his existence.

There will be one religion worldwide.

validstar1:
Mosquitoes Are Food for Wildlife
Mosquito larvae are aquatic insects, and as
such, play an important role in the aquatic
food chain.
According to Dr. Gilbert Waldbauer
, "mosquito larvae
are filter feeders that strain tiny organic
particles such as unicellular algae from the
water and convert them to the tissues of their
own bodies, which are, in turn, eaten by fish."
Mosquito larvae are, in essence, nutrient-
packed snacks for fish and other aquatic
animals.
Their role on the bottom of the food chain
doesn't end at the larval stage, of course. As
adults, mosquitoes serve as equally nutritious
meals for birds, bats, and spiders.
As much as we loathe them, mosquitoes
represent a considerable biomass of food for
wildlife on the lower rungs of the food chain.
Their extinction, were it even achievable,
would have an enormous adverse affect on
the entire ecosystem. BE CAREFUL WHAT U SAY...GO WITH FACTS.

I'd expect you will come out with your own intellectual argument not a plagiarized argument.
I will excuse you for your copy and paste submission above. It shows you do make good use of google

But,

My poser is that what benefits does mosquito confer to humans? So to you mosquito, just because it serves in the food chain should be tolerated by god, despite killing millions every year due to malaria. Mosquito also carry the parasite the causes the zika various( Which causes birth defects and poor brain development to human infants) , mosquito also causes dengue fever

Do you know that the medical community are considering eliminating all the mosquito species that feeds on human blood?

Remember without mosquito it's role in the food chain can quickly be filled by other insects.

The bottom line is that god, if he exist, could have created another insect that can still play the role mosquito plays in its ecosystem without bringing misery to humans (the apple of gods eye).


Bottom line is that :
A god that is interested in human welfare does not exist

RedArrow:
The problem of creating you

So people still believes in this 21st century, that an invisible man in the sky created them (from dust) ... Lolzzz

There is need for you to drop the bible and pick up a science book. You are still living in dogma. This is the age of reason and Internet. Ignorance is a choice!

Moreover, you didn't answer his question. What problem has this your god solve for humanity

Answering "problem of creation is just laughable and goes to show that ur god has no value for humanity

Zuckerberg is more of a god than yahweh

RedArrow:
Hello, You really hate God. He created mosquitoes etc?' Can I ask you a few question? Have you ever bought knife, generator, car, petrol, gas, electric cooker etc with your money? If yes, why would you do that? Don't you know how harmful and dangerous those items are? Yet you bought them with your money. The fact that he created mosquitoes does not make him wicked just as buying those items with your money does not make you a wicked person.

Very infantile and disingenuous analogy @ the bolded!

In as much as the bolded make no sense as to the topic, let me expose its failure

All what u mentioned were created by humans to facilitate and ease her life. Most people cannot not do without those items (save for gas cooker) including me and you. Their benefits far far outweighs their hazard. That's is why you and me buys them with our hard earned money because we know with them, we can ease the stress of life. If they are harmful humans will have no need to manufacture them.


Enter your god and mosquito. Mosquitoes has no single benefits to humanity, not even one. Mosquito has no use to us instead they are a pest to our lives. They have visited death to Tens of millions of humans (mostly children).

Remember your god is all knowing, all power and is a good god according to you. By that definition he knows that mosquito will kill millions of his ultimate creation even before creating mosquitoes, why did he/she go on to create such pest that will bring human misery? That's not the hallmark of an all-knowing, powerful god.
Let's assume he is not all knowing then why can't he just eliminate mosquitoes if his all powerful and has human welfare at heart. No! Instead, he watches till this day while mosquitoes and malaria continue to cause devastation . Thanks to the industry of man and science, we are able to get a cure for this scourge.

Tell me one thing this god has done to advance the cause of humanity. All the achievement humans has made so far is attributed to the industry of man and his desire to better her lot.

A God powerful and willing to effect positive changes to human welfare doesn't not exist.

buchilino:
WHO TOLD U GOD WANTS 2 KILL, OK LETS ASSUME DATS WATS HE WANTS, IF HE DECIDES 2 DO SO, WAT WILL U DO. WILL SUE HIM?.

Ur god if he/she/It exist is evil.
He created evil,

created mosquito that kills millions through malaria per year mostly children.

He endorsed slavery, endorsed misogyny, committed genocide,

hardened the heart of Pharoah and in turn punish him for having a hardened heart... Lol... What a Savage god

Sends his sparring partner Satan down from heaven to earth to play tricks and torment his allege creation instead of just eliminating him or perhaps forgive him

Has refused to forgive Satan but told us to forgive our enemies. Hypocrisy!

This ur god will have no problem roasting billions of people in fire for eternity for not loving him back. What a sadistic god!


If u believe that slavery is wrong and misogyny is wrong, just have it in mind that you are more moral than this ur god .

How anyone will want to worship such a being is baffling.

Any one with half a brain require little reason to come to a conclusion that this god character as depicted in the bible doesn't exist. He was made up by ancient men just to control peoples mind. This god has no place in modern world.

buchilino:
WAT A NOBLE GESTURE BY MR ZUCKERBURG. BUT I FEAR HIS FIGHTING A LOSING BATTLE. SINCE GOD HAD REVEALED IN BIBLE DAT DISEASES R PART OF D THINGS DAT WILL HAPPEN IN D LAST DAYS OF MANKIND.

This god is a figment of ur imagination. This god only exist in ur head and the pages of a primitive book written by desert goat herders

RedArrow:
Welcome idea...just that using science to solve a problem always lead to invention of another problem. The problems we are solving today were created by solving some lesser problems then...only God can solve the world problem without creating any side effect.

Ur cowardly god has been in hiding for thousands of years since men created him in man's image. How can such a cowardly god solve the world's problem. Ur evil baby killing god created evil in the world in the first place (Isaiah 45:7). He created mosquito that's carries the parasites that causes malaria which in turn has been killing millions (mostly children) evry year. How do u believe in such an evil god.. Deluded and superstitious fellow

jazinogold:
Is he God?

Is this what ur mental capacity can come out with? Nonsensical question.

DoctorAlien:
Evidence is all around you that a Creator exists. If you can be truthful, any other story apart from that a loving, intelligent Creator made all that is today doesn't make sense.

The world as it is now, however, isn't what the Creator planned when He made it.

But, very soon, He will fix everything.

I beg to ask, so what altered the creators plan? Remember he is all knowing, all powerful. Why will he sit down and watch while his plan is continually eroding

How soon is he gonna fix everything?

DoctorAlien:
I tell you that GOD exists and that He talks to me. Can you disprove it? Of course not!

We are in the same page . You don't expect me to disprove your claim that a god talks to you. You made the claim and the onus is on you to proof to us that he/she /It indeed talks to you.

To me if a god, powerful enough to create this majestic universe, a significant portion of his creation will not call into question his existence. If truly an omnipresent omnipotent God exist, there won't be any controversy to his/her/it existence among his allege creation. His existence will be so discernable, so revealing, so testable that it won't require man to assert his existence.

I don't even see any reason why he/she/It should even exist

Think brother.

DoctorAlien:
Prove beyond reasonable doubt with science that GOD does not exist.

You just committed the logical fallacy - - argumentum ad ignorantiam( appeal to ignorance).

You are suggesting that a proposition(God) is true because it has not yet been proved false. Thats a logical fallacy.

If I tell you that the flying spaghetti monster exist and visited me last night, can you disprove that? Of course Not!

Moreover, The burden of proof falls on you that makes a claim. Where is your proof of an invisible man in the sky? So far for thousands of years no shred of evidence has been forthcoming as to the existence of God. No single empirical evidence!

I have been seeing his[BlueAgent(m)] comments here. He is not just unlearned but also childish and uncivil in his submissions.

BlueAgent, This section is not meant for people like you. You can do a better job @ the relationship section.

I wonder why people in my generation still do cling on this god-believe when the lack of evidence therein is overwhelming even to a kid that is ready to embrace reason instead of dogma and beliefs.

Why do they even want god to exist?

brojoshua:
For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world, and loses his soul? And no one needs any visa to enter the place, that is the kingdom of God. It is only by the grace of God through faith in Christ Jesus the Son of God and the Saviour of the world. But many men are not seeking or picking that up now even though it is free but are seeking and possessing all other things. But very few have sought and got that thing which shall by no means be taking from them. It is only one thing that is needful for people in this world and let them seek that one thing before they loose all that they thought they have.

Very worrying that many of my fellow specie in my generation still think this fantasies are real. Very disconcerting people still think there's an imaginary friend/daddy in the sky

yinkslinks:
How do you expect them to generate money if you dont pay for visa? please sir gote next time you are online, cry more on the N53,600 american embassy charges without giving people visa then we will take you serious. Thank you sir

Drivel.. To comment is not by force. You wrote like an idiot. No correlation on the subject matter

lekpaboy:
Oga dangote, me just need one of the 38 visas to go Yankee. Daz all. of what does it profit a man to acquire the whole world and still lose God's favour and die? Just take it slow Sir and spend more on high speed data for video conferencing.

It doesn't take long before religitards began to bleat their nonsensical imaginary fantasies. Africans are totally beyond redemption

Oti4truth:
Who told you that he has short time to live? Whether am +ve with any fucking diseases or not. Human being will part away this surface at the exact time he/she is destined to part.

Nothing like "exact time destined to die" . Destined by who? We can die at anytime by disease, accident, suicide etc etc. Enfants die, toddlers die, adolescents die, adults die.

GossipHeart:
Please, stop quoting me.
Your ignorance is affecting me

Bro no need for that.. You have some point I guess but u need to enumerate on them

bizme:
The PharmD (Doctor of pharmacy) curriculum has more clinical content and requires six university years unlike the B.Pharm curriculum that requires five university years. PharmD students spend more time doing clinical posting at the hospitals, and so is most beneficial for pharmacists that will end up working in hospitals or in community pharmacies. Some countries, like UK, offer MPharm programme. Regardless of each country's specific designation, all of the graduates are pharmacists and have very similar course structure.
PharmD has been approved by the NUC in Nigeria but at the moment, most Nigerian universities will continue running the BPharm programme for the next foreseeable future.

You are right.. In Nigeria only UNIBEN runs pharmD and it constitutes 6 grueling years + 1year housemanship + Nysc. That is 8years.. Choi

chinok97:
lol, You don't need to Visit the White house befor you know it's actually White, ,
Well as you said, Choices . Not bad to spread your net, but please don't blame anything on Germany's System or DB , the recent developments are to serve us better, it only looks hard no thanks to naija recession..
I give you thumbs up for your personal research and knowledge u v tried passing here, remember you can always create a Swedish nd Danish thread for guys interested .




Abeg, guys that used Ecobank to fund, was it current account you used? what my bank dey tell me, i no understand o

I here you bro.. I wish all those going through the rigorous German visa process Success. I believe your efforts are indeed worth it. We should also leave room to explore, compare and contrast other good options if the going seem tough. Remain bless