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JessicaRabbit:
I hope you're aware that appealing to authority in this discussion is fallacious and irrelevant. Dershowitz's academic credentials do not make him immune to criticism or scrutiny.



Stop trying to distract from the main issue with yet more heaps of logical fallacies and misinformation. The point here is that Trump and his organization committed fraud by inflating and deflating the value of their assets depending on the situation. It's not a matter of different valuation methods, but of deliberate deception and manipulation. You are also ignoring the fact that Trump's fraud case is not only about loans, but also about tax benefits. He claimed millions of dollars in tax deductions based on inflated appraisals of his properties, which reduced his tax liability and deprived the public of revenue. This is a clear violation of the law and a harm to society. Then, coming to Letitia James, she is not a publicist. She is a duly elected official who has the authority and the duty to investigate and prosecute fraud and corruption. Beyond watery news sources and idle speculation, you don't have any proof that her case is based on political motives, as opposed to solid evidence.

I'm curious to know where you got the spurious information that Dershowitz has endorsed your absurd 3 to 1 factor, which has no basis in law or logic. He did state that Trump's fraud case is a serious one, and that he could face significant civil and criminal liability. He also said that the damages are not limited to the victims, but also to the public interest and the deterrence of future fraud.

Your argument here is weak, flawed and dishonest. You are only trying to defend the indefensible, and as usual, you are failing miserably.



You really don't get it, do you? Mar-a-Lago is not some fancy mansion that anyone with a fat wallet can buy. It's a private club that has more rules than a kindergarten classroom. It's completely nonsensical to compare it to other properties in the area that are actually useful and profitable. Do look up the meaning of False Equivocation. The value of Mar-a-Lago is based on how much money it makes, not on how famous or infamous its owner is. The county appraiser has done a good job of estimating its market value, which is way lower than what Trump thinks. Your shoe analogy is not only laughable, but pointless. Michael Jackson's sneakers are priceless treasures that his fans would kill for. They are not like a club that has a shrinking and unhappy membership, a track record of lawsuits, and a divisive owner. Brand value is not a magic trick that can turn a lemon into a gold mine. It is a factor that depends on many other factors, such as quality, reputation, demand, and customer satisfaction. Mar-a-Lago does not have a strong brand value, but a stained one.



Don't flatter yourself. You're not a challenge, you're a nuisance. And you're never wrong? That's a laugh. You're wrong about everything, especially who you think you are.



I don't know where I ever initiated this conversation with you. Apparently you have a tangent for every point on a circle. Kindly stay on topic. Thanks.

Tax liability to NYS. You have invented a lie. There was no victim no damages There was a disclaimer according to Trump in every application.
You can't stop yourself from lying
You are lying about Mar a Lago. Anyone would want to buy it. Investors may look at the location of a property and buy it despite being a burial ground for pigs.
Letitia James is Soros funded. I don have to add anything.

Trump has to deposit around $400m if the appeal court is to take up the case. Very difficult cash/asset to raise.
If the intention was to smear him,the fines would have been lower. The judge's intention is to bankrupt him.

Two views of the judgement.

have been an investor for almost 30 years but certainly not at President Trump's level.

ANYONE with more than 6 weeks of experience in Real Estate knows that this is such a massive load of horse excrement.
EVERY investor puts down what they believe the collateral is worth. They then give a check to the potential lender who hires a 3rd party appraiser. The potential Borrower can not even know who the appraiser is until the written appraisal report is first sent to the Bank's lending committee for an internal review. THEN the report is sent to the borrower with appraised value and the comparable properties.

That system is designed so that the potential borrower can have ZERO input into it until the report is prepared.

Mind telling us how any fraud was perpetrated since the lender controls EVERY step of the process??



SouthrnDomSense
I was a senior commercial banker with one of the “Big Four” banks for almost 20 years.
President Trump was convicted of fraud when no one was defrauded. He’s been ordered to pay over $360M in damages where no one was damaged.
A bank is required by law to rely on their own appraisal preformed by one of their chosen third party appraiser, which the borrower reimburses the bank for. The borrower has to provide audited financial statements by an accounting firm approved by the bank. The audited financials have the assets valued according to “Generally Accepted Accounting Rules”, which are very specific and based primarily on the properties original cost. Market value is whatever a willing buyer and seller agree upon. Appraised value is a subjective estimate of market value that can be determined by several different methodologies.
The decision by the Court is the true fraud.

DaHighLife:
You and Jessica Rabbit were discussing the Carrol Trial and Jury.
Because it was a civil trial, it had a Trial Jury, distinct from a grand jury. A Trial Jury does not indict; rather, the correct expression goes, 'A grand jury would indict a ham sandwich,' highlighting the lower standard of proof required for indictment (probable cause) in Grand Juries compared to Trial Juries, whether in civil or criminal cases.



Most of your assertions on this topic seem confused. Considering what I've read in the past few pages, it might be simpler to ask: What have you gotten right?"

Jury or no jury, what's most important is that all these are sham cases. Ridiculous outcomes. Cases that should never have gone to trial.
In Jean Carroll case the NY legislature bill or whatever allowed Caroll case to proceed despite expiry of the statute of limitations .New York Governor told businesses not to worry about Engoron case because they " are not Donald Trump"..
Fani Willis was blocked by a judge from indicting some Lt Gov after she headlined a fundraiser for his Democrat opponents. I thought she would lose the case, her law license should be at risk for perjury
Witch-hunts require some Intelligence too.
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DaHighLife:
You are aware that there is the option to simply acknowledge that you were wrong!

What was I wrong about.A grand jury is for indicting purposes.
Members of the jury do have their biases .
I think it's possible using AI and data mining to select a jury likely to arrive at a desired verdict.

DaHighLife:
The phrase goes, "A grand jury would indict a ham sandwich." It's essential to note the clear disparity between a Grand Jury and a Trial Jury, as well as between an Indictment and a Conviction; they are different. Basilico, based on his erratic and often inaccurate posts I've encountered here, appears to lack an understanding of these differences.
Contrary to his assertions, it is not an easy task for any prosecutor to secure a conviction for a ham sandwich.

I am no lawyer, but I have enough common sense to know that juries are made up of people. People have their inherent biases, I would want to believe that some members of a jury walk into duty already with a fixed mind.
Similar to Engoron sham trial to determine how much to charge, having found Trump guilty of violating the statutes before the trial.

AmazonTopaz:
Biden go use Trump mop ground.

I could date you if you ever put down some two cents of your expertise vid legal matters
When is the next reality BBNaija show?

In my solar side hustle I recommend Lithium batteries as storage for power generated. I'm negotiating for a Deye
and a Growatt inverter distributor deal by the way.
Northing prevents from using solar in millions of homes for kids to do homework within a $10 dollar margin.
Go sell slave labour to Yankees.

JessicaRabbit:

(1) Dershowitz is not a credible source of legal or political analysis, sorry. He's a notorious contrarian who likes to stir up controversy and defend the indefensible, like the impeachments of Bill Clinton and Donald Trump, or the idea that 15-year-olds should be able to consent to sex. He's not a Democrat or a lawyer, he's a clown

Dershowitz is a Harvard legal scholar. You might have changed you opinion of Harvard when it was Harvard then .He is a democrat who sees through the lies.
He defends what is constitutional.
I won't mention he is tainted with Epstein shenanigans.


(3) Of course, you will conveniently ignore the evidence that supports the fraud allegations against Trump and his organization. The New York Attorney General's office has obtained millions of pages of documents, tax returns, and financial statements that show a pattern of lying about the value of assets to get loans and tax benefits. For example, Trump claimed that his Mar-a-Lago resort was worth between $426.5 million and $612.1 million, while the Palm Beach County appraiser valued it at between $18 million and $27.6 million. This is not a matter of opinion, but of facts. The jury will have to decide whether this amounts to fraud, not whether they love or hate Trump.

Precisely the point. The appraiser took brick and mortar values plus annual revenue. I compared his finding to 77k pairs of shoes. Letitia is a publicist, her campaign funded by George Soros was a get Trump one.The jury decides on the strength of evidence the judge allows to seep through it. The bank loaned money, in the filings presented there was a clear disclaimer - Do your own evaluation and due diligence. Which they did, lent the money and got repaid in full with interest. Bank testified it was happy with the deal, a Soros lawyer Cooked the books . There is no victim , no damages warranted but hey Trump lied in his filings to banks. By that measure every time someone wants a loan in NYS he/she/they/them should ask Letitia and Engoron whether their valuations are correct. She went for a colonoscopy to look for a crime as if there are not other serious matters in her docket. Dershowitz says damages are paid to victims, we can do a 3 to 1 factor. Who was the victim in the loans lent out and repaid And who screwed up to not get top dollar from the loans?

(4) I already know you're dishonest, but downplaying the harm that Trump's alleged fraud has caused to the public interest is just pathetic and disgraceful. Fraud is not a harmless prank. It robs the government of tax revenue that could be used for public services and programs, and also erodes the trust and confidence in the financial system and the rule of law. It is not fair or ethical that Trump and his organization should profit from dishonest and illegal practices, while others have to follow the rules and pay their fair share. The damages in this case are not zero, but huge and serious.

(5) I find it hilarious that you'd compare Mar-a-Lago to a pair of shoes. The value of a property is not determined by how many shoes it can buy, but by how many people want to buy it, where it is, what it looks like, what it offers, and other factors. Mar-a-Lago is not a unique or priceless property, but one of many clubs and resorts in Palm Beach County. Its value is not based on Trump's ego, but on objective and verifiable criteria. The fact that you have to use such a silly analogy shows that you have no valid argument to defend Trump's inflated valuation.

So is Mar a Lago worth 19-27 m. If you have to value, you consider sales within the neighborhood also. Properties in that area go for much higher. I calculated his shoe price to show how ridiculous the appraiser was. I have mentioned brand value on other posts here. Michael Jackson 6 pairs of all his NBA titles winning sneakers fetched $8m in a Sotheby auction a few days ago. A third of Mar A Lago my foot. Brand value my friend.

By the way e don tire yourself wearing me down here . I'm resourceful.
And I'm never wrong.
And Joe Biden stole.

JessicaRabbit:
Challenge accepted! But first, pass the salt, because your confidence is seasoning my popcorn.

JessicaRabbit:
Challenge accepted! But first, pass the salt, because your confidence is seasoning my popcorn.

Find a shred of any lie I put down here. Was once active circa 2013-15 with this moniker on the Islam section if you want to interogate my history here and I have no shame about it.
I'm seasoned but you don't know.Diehard.

JessicaRabbit:
Same old, same old.

Misinformation, bias and hateful insults... that's pretty much all there is to your debating prowess.

I'll debunk this watery rant when I'm more lucid. At this present moment, I don't have much patience for wanton ignorance.

You can never debunk what I put down.
I always state whether it's my opinion.
I have never been proven wrong.
To prove me wrong, you have to provide proof to the contrary.
A lot here hate my unbroken principled stand that JB stole. They can't provide proof that he won whereas I have brought up proof of irregularities in his 81m win.

JessicaRabbit:
I appreciate your clarification about valuing assets, and I agree that a holistic approach is necessary. However, the New York Attorney General's case goes beyond brick and mortar. It alleges misrepresentation of property values to obtain loans and tax benefits. Whether the Trump brand has value isn't the question. It's whether that value was accurately represented.

Additionally, while some may see the Letitia James case as political, it's important to remember that violations of financial law are not partisan issues. The justice system should hold everyone accountable, regardless of their political affiliation.

As for the jury, they're instructed to base their verdict on evidence, not public opinion. The "ham sandwich" saying is a reminder of their power, not a justification for ignoring facts.

Granted. The jury delivers it's verdict strictly based on the judges direction. The judge sets the evidence they will review, can block jurors from reviewing exculpatory evidence, can block defence presenting evidence .

Here is a democrat's take on Letitia James.

Dershowitz called for New York State Attorney General Letitia James to be brought up before the bar.

“I didn’t make it up,” Dershowitz replied. “I wish I were creative and original, but I got it from obviously Letitia James campaign. She ought to be brought up before the bar. You should not have an elected prosecutor campaigning on the promise to get a particular defendant. Now if she didn’t get him. She would lose the election. This is a variation of Stalin and Beria back in the 1930s when the head of the KGB says to Stalin, show me the man, I’ll find you the crime. This is — show me the man, we know who it is. She told us who it was, Donald Trump, and we’ll find you the fraud even though there was no harm.”

“Generally in our legal system, particularly under the system of equity when you go get a jury trial, if it’s no harm, no foul, no harm, no fine, but when you have no damages at all, usually you can do a multiple,” he continued. “Say there’s a million dollars of damages, you can give $3 million fine. But when you have zero damages, no matter how many times you multiply it, zero plus and nth times whatever, is all still zero. So it it’s outrageous. Now, I don’t know whether it’s going to be reversed in the appellate division


Oh and you might want to acknowledge that Letitia valued Mar a Lago at the same price as 77000 pairs of $349 shoes that Trump is selling
Food for thought. Brand

JessicaRabbit:
Time will tell who's right, but at least I'm speaking my mind. You, on the other hand, seem content to hide behind negativity.

The liar . Are you still lurking in the shadows afraid to prove me wrong.
I agree to disagree with Bemeruca. The corrupt justice system might force him to pay her , to your delight I presume.
In other jurisdictions we can call it elections interference

Joe Biden the brand. Corruption exemplified.
His brother James Biden convinced a struggling rural based healthcare that he would get them funding from Middle East using the Biden brand. He only needed a small loan from them. $600K. They lent it to him. In one transaction they wired $200k which he promptly on the same day sent his brother Joe Biden $200k
All the same the healthcare went bankrupt and James Biden never repaid them.
Life goes on. If you think I'm lying the name of the org is Americore

Obrigardo:
You be confirmed idiot Sha

Do you know President Biden goes to church EVERY WEEK! Like every week he is in Church.
But your Criminal overlord is selling knockoff sneakers and hosting ugly plastic ladies at maralago.

Please shut the fùck up

Does Joe Biden go for confessionals like other catholic faithful.
Ashley Biden diary . She felt having showers with her dad ( whom Hunter calls Pedo Pete) was inappropriate.

Iqra ( In Arabic)

By Wayne Allyn Root

I’m going to “reverse gaslight” you. What does that mean?

Well “gaslighting” is when government bureaucrats, politicians, media, corporations and all the evil people in power lie to you; defraud you; smother you with propaganda; brainwash you; and try to convince you that what you see right in front of you…with your own two eyes…is not true. That the lies they tell you are more important than the raw truth you can see right in front of you.

In my last column about the obviously rigged 2022 Midterms, I listed many of ways and times you’ve been gaslighted in just the past few years. It’s a stunning list…

They lied to you about open borders…they lied about Hillary’s 30,000 deleted emails…they lied about spying on Trump…they lied about Russian Collusion…they lied about a perfectly fine Ukrainian phone call…they lied about massive Biden corruption in Ukraine and China… they lied about the Hunter Biden laptop…they lied about the origins of Covid…they lied about the need for lockdowns and masks…they lied about the need for Covid vaccines…they lied about the vaccines being “safe and effective”…they lied and covered up all the deaths and injuries from the vaccine…they lied about the success of miracle drugs Hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin…and they lied about the stolen 2020 election…and just days ago, they lied again about the clearly rigged and stolen 2022 midterm election.

You’ve been the victims of nonstop severe gaslighting for a decade now. You’re all part of a human psychology experiment in the limits that government and media can go in propaganda and brainwashing…while you can see they’re lying right in front of your eyes.

And these are the exact same people now telling you how terrible Trump is…how awful of a human being he is…what a criminal he is…what a danger to you, your family, and America he is…how unpopular he is…and how he must be stopped at all costs.

Everyone in power and media is telling you this. Not just liberal media like CNN, MSNBC, the NY Times and Washington Post. But also, conservative media like Fox News, the Wall Street Journal and New York Post- all owned by the Rupert Murdoch family.

President Trump just declared he is officially running for President again in 2024. And all hell has broken loose. Everyone in power, everyone on the left and right, even the Murdoch family, have all gone postal.

Trump is like kryptonite to the DC Swamp, Deep State, globalists, RINOS, Democrats and the CEOs of the biggest corporations in the world. Trump is the one man standing in front of their plans to force vaccinate us to death; regulate us to death; tax us to death; digital ID us to control every aspect of our lives; move to a cashless society where every dollar you make is tracked; and worst of all, force us into a social credit score system that will make it impossible to travel, open a bank account, get a loan, or keep your job, if you disagree with the government’s lies, misinformation and propaganda.

Trump can stop us from becoming medical experiments. Yes, Trump the man who supports the experimental Covid vaccines (mistakenly), is the one person who can keep us safe from them. Because he believes in freedom. He will never allow vaccine mandates on anyone- not children, not government employees, not military, not private sector employees. You know how many hundreds of billions of dollars that will cost Big Pharma?

So even though Trump supports the vaccine, Big Pharma hates him and needs to stop him too.

And Trump is the one man who can stop China and the CCP. That’s why they hate him so much.

On Friday criminally obsessed and insane Attorney General Merrick Garland ordered a special counsel to investigate President Trump. The powers that be will stop at nothing to destroy this man.

Keep in mind Trump created the greatest economy and stock market in modern history. He made all these people at the top filthy rich. They doubled and tripled and quadrupled their wealth under Trump. They should love him. Yet they all hate him. Why?

Because he’s on our side. He’s on your side. And he can’t be bribed. So, he must be destroyed. They did it once by rigging and stealing an election where he got the most votes of any president in history; and the most votes of any Republican in history; and the most additional votes of any president in history.

Have you forgotten all this? I’m here to remind you. The American people love Trump. The evil people in power hate Trump. Now they’re gaslighting you. They want you to forget all that.

Trump is our only choice. Why? Because the people in power hate him so much. Because they are all united to stop him. Because they’re so desperate. Because they’re frothing at the mouth. Against Trump and only Trump. No one else seems to bother them, or scare them. That tells you all you need to know.

That’s the tip off. That’s why there is no other choice. “We the people” have to unite to elect Donald J. Trump as the 47th president of the United States.

You’ve been “reverse gaslighted.”

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Konkoja:
Go to church, you this clown 🤡.

Has Joe Biden gone to church ? He is a "staunch Catholic" . Wants to partake in the Holy Communion.
He supports in public a lot the Catholic do not. Gays, Lesbians marriages, And worst of all baby murder.
In the old days they would have burnt him on the stake.

Another Joe Biden lie this week that media will not report.He said in a presser that when the Special Counsel asked him when his own son died JB thought it was none of his business.

The truth. JB was asked about his entanglement with his biographer. As he was explaining those days he compared it to the day his son died. He got the date May 30 correct but got the year wrong. The Special Counsel noted that he could not remember the year his own son died. ( In other times JB consoling veterans said his son died in Iraq while in reality he died in Walter Reed military hospital).

Long and short, the special counsel never asked him what day/year his son died.
Joe Biden lied brazenly and media will not report that.

Another big lie from Joe Biden. He never knew about his son businesses. Later when evidence is presented, he changed tune to he was never involved in his son's businesses. When details of a whistleblower were revealed about JB getting $5m Weiss indicted the whistleblower. Did Weiss check JB bank records for a hidden $5m from Ukraine?Your guess is as good as mine.

feedthenation:
---yes Trump may not use GoFundMe---however the grifter is now selling golden sneakers---and as you mentioned he will also make billions when his TMTG is sold---

Trump hawks $399 branded shoes at ‘Sneaker Con,’ a day after a $355 million ruling against him

As he closes in on the Republican presidential nomination, former President Donald Trump made a highly unusual stop Saturday, hawking new Trump-branded sneakers at “Sneaker Con,” a gathering that bills itself as the “The Greatest Sneaker Show on Earth.”

Trump was met with loud boos as well as cheers at the Philadelphia Convention Center as he introduced what he called the first official Trump footwear.

The shoes, gold lame high tops with an American flag detail on the back, are being sold as “Never Surrender High-Tops” for $399 on a new website that also sells Trump-branded “Victory47” cologne and perfume for $99 a bottle. He’d be the 47th president if elected again.

https://apnews.com/article/trump-sneakers-sneaker-con-philadelphia-4de093eda6f8d1c68baf8fe8095f777b

They’re for the go-getters who don’t know the word quit. With a standout gold finish and the ‘T’ badge, these kicks are for true Patriots. Wrapped with an American flag on the collar, they shout out to the brave and the free. The Never Surrender sneakers are your rally cry in shoe form. Lace-up and step out ready to conquer. With only 1000 pairs ever to be released Grab Your Limited Edition Pair Now. The Never Surrender High Tops are estimated to ship in July 2024.

Only 1000 pairs to be released. They all sold out immediately.
According to Letitia and Engoron, the value of Mar a Lago is equivalent to 77000 pairs of these shoes.
Give me a break.

Obrigardo:
The Lie's social that is under SEC investigation? Abeg talk another lie. Criminal trump is not a billionaire at all. No make them spoil your coconut head with lies oo.

Are you just sick. SEC has greenlighted the merger of DWAC and Trump .. Media.
CNN Gujarati edition has the news

In the Carroll case the jury found Trump liable for sexual abuse.
In the subsequent defamation, the same judge ruled that Trump had defamed her, there was no trial The hearing was to determine how much to charge him. Note there is still an appeal for the first hearing.
I think I saw somewhere that NY law allows a maximum compensatory fine close to or same as other related cases. Also sets punitive fine to maximum compensatory fine. Thus at most Caroll would get $3-4 m in compensatory and max punitive of $3 -4 m.

In this latest one Letitia James presented her biased case to the judge, , the judge agreed with her. His purpose in the trial was to set the punishment, not to listen to Trump.
Of course Trump will appeal.

If a DA in Chicago thinks he can ask a judge to punish Trump, it's possible he use Engorons ruling to demand reparations for Chicago too.

Colorado Supreme Court agreed with a lower court judge who said Trump had engaged in an insurrection .They went ahead to okay his removal from the ballot.

Something just doesn't sound right.

Obrigardo:
I just heard the Gofundme scam by grant cardone for Criminal trump has been taken down

I think you have a problem. GoFundMe is leftist politically I doubt Trump would use it.
It's actually a supporter. Ivhe wants i raise money well and good.

Laura Loomer, previously banned from social media after describing herself as a 'proud Islamophobe' claimed: "GoFundMe is anti-Trump and liberal."

"GoFundMe is notorious for banning conservative campaigns. I have been banned from GoFundMe since 2018," she continued.

Obrigardo:
President Biden will beat the Criminal trump like a marching band drum and it will be so lovely to see 😁😂😂

ABC is part of DNC media PR wing.

According to a recent poll from ABC News/Ipsos, 86 percent of Americans think that Biden is too old to serve another term.

The poll, conducted after the special report from Robert Hur was released, is just another blow to Biden’s presidential hopes. Concerns about Biden’s age have appeared to increase since September, when 74 percent of respondents to an ABC News/Washington Post poll believed Biden was too old to be reelected

HolinessForever:
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his cabinet issued a clear and firm response to Joe Biden and other Western leaders :


1️⃣ ISRAEL outright rejects international dictates regarding a permanent settlement with the Palestinians.
Such an arrangement will be reached only through direct negotiations between the parties, without preconditions.



2️⃣ ISRAEL will continue to oppose unilateral recognition of a Palestinian state.

Such recognition in the wake of the October 7 massacre would give a huge reward to unprecedented terrorism and prevent any future peace settlement.


###

The US, UK, France and others are talking about unilaterally recognizing "Palestine" as a means of putting pressure on Israel.

This would cause a huge rift between Israel and the West.

The Israeli public rejects a Palestinian state, and this won't change regardless of who is prime minister.

IT

Biden is toast , he is not the one with this plan.
His plan is to force a Palestine state on Israel within 1967 borders.
The capital of the state will be in East Jerusalem. Gaza will have a continuous land connection to West Bank effectively splitting Israel into two.
The West shall recognize Temple Mount as a purely Muslim site.The UN already recognized wailing wall as a Muslim heritage site, Haram El Shariff. America refused to veto the resolution in 2016 Dec.

If you Google who had talked about contiguous borders of Gaza with west Bank, one name cones up.
Obama. He is behind all this not Biden.

feedthenation:
---How many billion will Trump make from the merger of the two businesses---do you know the current value of TMTG?---

Trump now owes $452 million in civil damages---with only about $400 million cash on hand. Before he starts any appeal he will need to put up the amount in equal amount/asset on any civil judgments---next stop is March 25th---as the judgement verdicts keeps rolling on---

Do you have a problem understanding what is in black and white. After the merger Trump will control 79m shares , as of yesterday morning they were worth $4B. Whether he sells them now or later is upto him. But $360m.
I think he should go to the bank, get pennies for the amount needed , and deliver truckloads of coins. The elections will be over by the time they are done counting them.

Obrigardo:
Just like we predicted.
Dumb maga cultists are raising cash through GoFundMe while at the same time violating their TOS 😂😂

I knew grant cardone was a tricky scam artist but now his wife is just as dumb as a rock. The next 72 hours will be interesting witnessing the take down of this GoFundMe.

I would think any sanctioned fundraiser would be through the xtian GiveSendGo.
GoFundMe is a tricky player.

Freedom Convoy: GoFundMe seizes funds of Canada 'occupation' - BBC
Feb 4, 2022GoFundMe says it will withhold millions of dollars raised for Canadian truckers protesting against


Just my thoughts.

feedthenation:
---Has Trump won any of the numerous appeals from during the time of the 2020 presidential elections---

I will consider you adding context to your question.
In every case he filed or appeared in court,
{a)how many judges he faced were appointed by democrats?
(b) How many prosecutors campaigns were funded by George Soros.

Please add that context if we are to get any answers.Your query cannot be answered without that background information.

feedthenation:
---How many billion will Trump make from the merger of the two businesses---do you know the current value of TMTG?---

Trump now owes $452 million in civil damages---with only about $400 million cash on hand. Before he starts any appeal he will need to put up the amount in equal amount/asset on any civil judgments---next stop is March 25th---as the judgement verdicts keeps rolling on---

I don't need to read yours in full to know you are digging around hoping Trump will be bankrupted. Here's one comment I saw on Facebook, and there are millions more who feel the same.

has taken me all day to calm down, I have never been as Angery as I am now and I really hope that this will be over turned but there is nothing
that says it will, I made one donation this after noon and then tonight after I heard him speak at MAL I made another one , I know that this has to be costing him and I know that he will be ok but he needs money to campaign on and so anything I can do to help him I will


Liberals should never be allowed to be Judges because they base everything on sheer emotion. There is never any sound reasoning basic common sense or logic involved and this case is the perfect example.

As for appeals he will win. But will have to out up cash or assets under the court. This obviously is what they are after, bankrupt him. It's a death by a thousands cut scenario.

feedthenation:
@Uncle Basilico---will blame the Democrats for going after Matt Gaetz---

JUST IN: The House Ethics Committee has issued a subpoena for the testimony of a former girlfriend of Rep. Matt Gaetz as part of the panel's ongoing investigation into the Florida Republican. Gaetz's ex-girlfriend, who previously worked on Capitol Hill, allegedly has knowledge not only regarding the congressman but also the one-time minor at the center of the sex trafficking investigation eventually closed by the Department of Justice without charging Gaetz.

Did they not expel Santos knowing full well the republican could lose the seat?
The critics are being silenced.I have no doubt McCarthy sympathies support this move. It's a warning to non conforming Congress members.

Obrigardo:


They have been footing his $6million legal fees in one year and a half!! lol

The thing here basilico loco, doesn't understand is that he owes more than $500m in fines right now.
And they will all keep on rising with interests as he appeals, obviously.
Even established bond lenders will run away from him. So sad he'll siphon small donors from his non-educated maga cult. But it will not be enough.
Criminal trump is broke, RNC is broke. He is a national security risk right now as he'll be sourcing money from overseas criminals.

Which is the intention of Joe Biden. Bankrupt him by tying him up in all sorts of frivolous lawsuits.
I think you are a beggar and parasite. You don't appear to have donated anything to democrats. Misery loves company.

PDPGuy:
Even if Trump and his orgs are finally ordered to pay the entire $355 million (after a likely final review by New York's highest court), it would be his supporters that would foot most of the bill, just as they have been footing his entire $6 million legal within the last one and half years.

And the supporters are happy to foot his bills by donating more.
Fani Willis took some of the cash she raised during her campaign and kerps it in her house.

feedthenation:
---@Uncle Basilico---we are waiting for your version of Judge Engoron verdict:

BREAKING: Donald Trump's fortune is destroyed as Judge Arthur Engoron slams him with a $355 million fine in the New York civil fraud case — spelling doom for his embattled finances.

And that's not even the worst part for Trump

In addition to the historically massive fine, Trump will be banned from borrowing money from any bank in New York for three years. This will make it difficult for him to raise money to appeal the judgement, which in turn might force him to sell off one of his beloved buildings or golf courses.

He will also be banned for three years from serving in any top roles at any New York companies, including his own.

The New York Times reports that an independent monitor will serve as "court's eyes and ears at the Trump Organization" and watch out for fraud or other suspicious behavior.

As The Daily Beast reports, the 9% interest rate on the judgement could ultimately push the total fines "well past $400 million" which would be the worst financial crisis Trump has ever faced.

The timing could not be any worse for Trump, who is currently fighting off numerous indictments that could land him behind bars. It's unclear how he will manage to pay his mounting legal fees.

Judge Engoron also banned Donald Trump Jr. and Eric Trump from serving as officers or directors of any New York corporation or legal entity for two years. They have been fined $4 million a piece.

This is a massive victory for New York Attorney Letitia James and the American people.

The trial was to decide how much to charge him for the non crime with no victim. The judge was biased using Trump's murnurs of disapproval in court to erode his credibility.It seems a plan for Fani Willis being obnoxious in court yesterday, a precedent has been set.
You are darn wrong about Trump's fortunes. Read on.



SEC greenlights Trump’s Truth Social public offering
BYCHRIS MORRIS.: Friday 16/02/2024

Donald Trump stands to make billions if the merger goes through.

Donald Trump’s Truth Social is poised to make its Wall Street debut after the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) has finally cleared a controversial merger that was delayed for years as regulators conducted a thorough inquiry.

The SEC has cleared the merger of Trump Media & Technology Group (which owns Truth Social) and Digital World Acquisition Corp. (DWAC), a SPAC which plans to bring the company public. That could give Trump a sizable ownership stake in the company. Trump is set own roughly 79 million shares of the company, according to new SEC filings.

DWAC shares were trading for just over $49.50 on Friday morning, putting the value of that stake at roughly $4 billion.

Jawdrop Huh?
Doesn't look like Trump will go bankrupt soon, does it?
Engoron ruling is meant to make liberals ecstatic. It will be appealed and Trump will not pay a dime.

As I expected , another verdict against Trump.
Save for Supreme Court and non Democrat judges, I said earlier in the beginning of the year. Trump will lose all cases this year.

Idea is to besmirch him, bankrupt him, impede his campaign , prevent him from running Or at worst jail him.

All democrats in the country going after one republican.
Banana republic.
Liberals are crying for Navalny secretly hoping it's Trump. Thanks to the KGB thug Putin, Russians always know the elections winner in advance. Biden and his democrats seek to emulate Putin.

Budatum, the protected class can niw opt out of school lbgtq curriculum.
The elites imported foreigners hoping to change them. Forgot that some immigrants have a different agenda from the smug elites.