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IjeBos:
Ahh, you've moved on after basilico of all people had to tell you you were wrong (even though he was only 75% right himself) abou hit the judge striking down the deal. How does that feel? If I have lice brains and am clearly smarter than you, what's inside your brains? lol

I gave you a homework assignment to help you evaluate if it was a sweetheart deal. You clearly didn't do the assignment and are still using a word you don't understand and were propagandized to believe. Here it is again. In order to say something was a sweetheart deal, you invariable have to be able to compare the deal to a deal wasn't a sweetheart deal.

Seriously I did not contradict Bemeruca. I ridiculed your nonsensical argument of proof when words were spoken. The underlying meaning of what I wrote was that the judge didn't have to say it, she scattered the plea deal to the winds.
Too bad, were you taught Latin in Chinese language?
Sweetheart deal. When your past crimes are forgiven And the future ones to be ignored, in Latin is that not a sweetheart deal.

Impeachment first hearing on 28th Sep. Subpoena for Hunter bank records to be issued this week. Trump was ordered as POTUS to hand out his remember. Joe will also have to. His brother James Biden is even worse , he had never built a Trump tower in his life.He won a $1.5B tender to do some housing project during the Reconstruction of Iraq. As soon as JB became the vice president. Those are facts

And you can explain why the flowing people got money wired from China, Russia, Ukraine and Romania. Only after Biden became VP. Would you also not want to know...Esp after a Chinese baloon overflew continental America including a nuclear missile base.


1. Hunter Biden
2. James Biden
3. Sara Biden
4. Hallie Biden
5. Kathleen Biden
6. Melissa Biden
7. Niece/nephew
8. Niece/nephew
9. Grandchild

[quote author=budaatum post=125908449][/quote]Just like I guessed. Ever wondered how magicians pull off a trick not with the deft sleight of hand ,but through predictions?

bemeruca:
I said the judge struck down the deal. No one ever said she uttered that word but ijebos the guy with the mental capacity of a lice want to win argument by asking a stupid question.

The judge made clear that she will not accept the deal they brought to her and they have to clarify what they really mean. She gave them a chance to do that. Guess what happened? Hunter is not getting a sweet heart deal anymore. Instead he is being indicted.

Context is key. The deal failed because the judge saw through it.
The judge wanted clarification on the immunity part whether, there was to be further investigations. The prosecution said yes. Hunter's lawyer shot up and implied there was to be full immunity of every other crime (including child abuse )
Hunter had ever committed or would ever commit after the trial.
I don't see any political pressure here.They were running cover for Hunter, she could not go along with it

By not saying she struck down the deal, the judge scattered the deal to the winds. Context you see is king.

With impeachment inquiry, Weiss cannot be subpoenad because he is Special Counsel investigating Hunter .That is more cover-up for the Biden crimes.

The resident idiot Ijebos has become a grade one homework teacher.Really is that someone who studies latin?

Ray Epps charged for his conduct on Jan6. His charges are misdemeanors while for lesser actions other j6ers are facing long terms in jail.

The tables are turning. Leftist DoJ harrassed Trump children with subpoenas, at one point Donald Jr was grilled for 20 hours. Mueller also grilled Trump family.

Matt Gaetz has issued a subpoena to Hunter Biden in the house impeachment process. Democrats never thought their president would be under the wringer.Yes a Matt Gaetz subpoena.

LordReed:
Yeah remind me, who was CinC when Epstein epsteined himself.

Trump was the CinC. Happy?
That's very soothing and important to you, instead of wanting to know why cctv failed, while the jackass was under suicide watch.
Better still, Epstein trafficked children. To who?

*** photos now😗😗😗

bemeruca:
Wrong on what? Are you this stupid or you get incentives to win arguments on naira land.

I asked you a simple question, because you think words are always literal when you choose to believe your delusion.

Again, if the plead deal did not die why has everything change and no deal instead hunter is being charged? Are you this daft?

The judge did not use the actual phrase (I'm stiking the deal down) .
The deal no longer holds anyway . But the coon wants you to show where those words were uttered. He then walks away claiming the 'deal being struck down' has been debunked
How do people live with that level of foolishness?

IjeBos:
Yes, propaganda piece. And to make my point, I found the document both you and the NY post piece relied on. And it's worse than I expected.
Here it is:
Sixth Progress Report on the Implementation by Ukraine of the Action Plan on Visa Liberalisation
https://www.eumonitor.eu/9353000/1/j4nvirkkkr58fyw_j9vvik7m1c3gyxp/vk036jhcb1zg

This is what the report is on, Action plan on Visa Liberalisation:


As I said, how many times was Shokin's actual name mentioned? 0
And the 2 mentions of General Prosectors office?
-"On 30 November, the General Prosecutor appointed the head of the specialised anti-corruption prosecution."
-"A specialised unit to coordinate investigations into money laundering and terrorism financing was set up on 2 September 2015 in the Department of Supervision in Criminal Proceedings of the Prosecutor General."

The dates man, you bumhead. Sep 2015 😗Shokin was the Prosecutor General. He set up the unit that went after Burisma , marking him as a threat to be neutralized.

It should be now clear why the NY Post didn't link the article. And again even clearer why you are the idiot you are.

IjeBos:
Whenever you write a post I'm thankful I went to good schools that was thought how to think critically. You saw my posts, I included links and quotes and I try to include1st hand sources (i.e. the actual pdf of the State Dep. briefing Biden received).
But you? You went online, googled Burisma, found the first article that aligned with what you thought and basically wrote verbatim what you found in the article.
Here is the article. (I found it by putting a couple of your lines in your post in google)
https://nypost.com/2023/09/08/despite-bidens-claim-europeans-werent-trying-to-oust-ukraine-prosecutor-targeting-hunters-firm/
And it was clearly written as a propaganda piece that you swallowed and regurgitated. What's the first tell. It's the NY Post.

So, where is this EU report your post is largely based on? Did you read it? Did you see the Shokin's name mentioned when they were praising the reforms? Or is that what the article told you it said? Are you just taking the word of whomever wrote the article? And then expecting me to take your word on it? In fact I'm 100% sure it doesn't mention Shokin by name. That's the difference between you and I. I would have found that report and read it myself, to make sure it said what the article said it said, before talking about it. And that's the reason you're an idiot who repeatedly falls prey to Right Wing propaganda.



That you posted this, wow. There is a huge logical flaw in what you wrote. Figure it out and you may be smarter than a 5th grader. I'll check in to see if you figured it out and thus figured out how ridiculous what you wrote is.

How good was your school at teaching critical thinking?
You disparage NY post yet you quote wapo, huff post, NYT, politico,fact check.org etc.
NY post posted this image of Hunter Biden. Your sources said it's Russia propaganda. I guess you still think it's Russia Russia.
Have good day. ChatGPT is also like your crappy sources with their leftist bias.

IjeBos:

That happened AFTER Shokin was fired. Lol.
Please, stop type typing and figure out your own conspiracy.

You been answered but still cooking up theories.

Nuland had praised Ukraine efforts before Joe Biden received a bribe and changed State position in Shokin.



Victoria Nuland, the State Department’s top point person on Ukraine at the time, even sent Shokin a letter that summer praising the prosecutor for his work combating corruption in the former Soviet republic.

“We have been impressed with the ambitious reform and anti-corruption agenda of your government,” Nuland writes in the June 2015 letter.

“The challenges you face are difficult, but not insurmountable. You have an historic opportunity to address the injustices of the past by vigorously investigating and prosecuting corruption cases and recovering assets stolen from the Ukrainian people. The ongoing reform of your office, law enforcement, and the judiciary will enable you to investigate and prosecute corruption and other crimes in an effective, fair, and transparent manner.”


All, thank you for a productive meeting yesterday. Please find a SOC below. It was agreed: The IPC concluded that (1) Ukraine has made sufficient progress on its reform agenda to justify a third guarantee and (2) Ukraine has an economic need for the guarantee and it is in our strategic interest to provide One,” former White House Director of International Economic Affairs Christina Segal-Knowles wrote to government officials advising the Interagency Policy Committee in September 2015.

“As such, the IPC recommends moving forward with a third loan guarantee for Ukraine in the near‐term, noting State/F’s preference to issue the guarantee as late as possible to allow more clarity on the budget context and Embassy Kyiv and Treasury’s assessment that Ukraine needs the guarantee by end‐2015,” she added.





See that .By end 2015 loan guarantee approved before Joe Biden snout shows up to demand Shokin firing

You are so inbred and easy to manipulate.Zoombie Zombie.

We are good people with an inention of getting rid of the ignorance that resides in you.
Here is Shokins statement about Ukraine.

https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/427618359-Shokin-Statement-1.pdf

IjeBos:
Ahh.. I get it. You are really stupid. You don't understand what you posted. Holy Sh*t.

Archer is repeating what he was told by Bursima's board before Shokin was fired. The Burisma board did NOT want Shokin to be fired, because they "neutralized him". That's why the investigation was dormant. If they fired Shokin (the corrupt prosecutor), the new prosecutor may reopen the investigation.



You have no idea what you are reading. That people like you exist in life makes me sad.

The Burisma owner had his property confiscated, he never went back to Ukraine.
That is a dormant investigation?
idiot.

IjeBos:
Idiot, it was your post. Don't cry now.
Your whistle blower's testimony which YOU posted destroyed your whole conspiracy theory. He testified he was told getting rid of Shokin was BAD for Burisma. So, how does your theory, Burisma paid Biden to get rid of Shokin, make any sense?
Be mad at yourself that you're too stupid to understand the propaganda you post.

I'll repost it again for you.

Context is a problem for you. Shokin was taken care of. Threat neutralized.
How hard is that? Getting rid of Shokin was bad? Because he was investigating them, for JB the brand to be the one behind the scheme because everyone knew why they got rid of Shokin.

Shokin threat was blunted? That would be a threat to clear Burisma of any corruption.
It looks bad for them don't you think if they have to bribe JB with 5m to get rid of Shokin
Idiot..

IjeBos:
Fact check:

Below is a clip from the mental midget's own post above. Burisma did not want him fired, because they probably paid him off already. Again, Shokin was corrupt. Which is why US policy was to get rid of him. Getting rid if him would have gotten Burisma a new prosecutor and a "non-dormant" investigation.



Really, how do you function in real life?

Really I quoted sworn testimony. Regardless Devon Archer was being paid 83.3k per month same as Hunter.
You are a slob. He revealed a lot of Biden corruption in sworn testimony as a
Board Member of Burisma, Business partner of Hunter.

You believe wapo instead.

IjeBos:
Fact Check
1.) Shokin (the Ukrainian Prosecutor General) was not investigating Burisma at the time he was fired. That was the problem, he wasn't investigating corruption. Because he was corrupt. So removing him would have brought in a prosecutor who would investigate corruption.
2.) The EU and the US State Department wanted him gone. Obama was the president and Biden was sent to deliver the message for the policy Obama's State Dept wanted. In fact some Republican Senators wrote a letter in support of the policy. The goal was to reduce corruption in Ukraine so that they could get EU membership and/or the US could give them more aid.
3.) Your argument is somehow, Hunter paid the EU, Obama, Secretary of State and some Republican Senators to get rid of a prosecutor that wasn't investigating Burisma and advocate for one who would?
4.) But don't believe me. Listen to super conservative (Freedom Caucus member, the caucus of all those leftists (Boebert, Gaetz and formerly MTG) Republican Ken Buck on Fox News on Sunday.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9Dtq8bUxdo

You are what a dullard, inhaling right wing propaganda sounds like.

Liar. Shokin was investigating Burisma before he was fired. Devon Archer confirmed that in his testimony. Shokin had seized the Burisma owner properties..Note Devon Archer was a board member of Burisma together with Hunter Biden, appointed in early or mid 2015.

[b]

first son’s former business partner Devon
Archer confirmed in an interview released
Friday.
“He was a threat. He ended up seizing assets
of Burisma owner Nikolai Zlochevsk a
house, some cars, a couple properties. And
Nikolai actually never went back to Ukraine
after Shokin seized all of his assets,” Archer
told former Fox News host Tucker Carlson.
“It certainly wasn’t made clear to us at the
board level… that [getting Shokin fired] was a
favor to be done,” Archer said.
Carlson pressed, “Joe Biden knew that his son
was on the board of this company that was
being hassled by the prosecutor whose firing
he was calling for —”

“Right,” Archer said.

Archer testified that Ukrainian natural
gas company Burisma Holdings added
Hunter Biden to its board because of the
Biden “brand,” and paid Hunter up to $1
million a year.
“Burisma would have gone out of
business if ‘the brand’ had not been
attached to it,” Archer claimed.
Archer testified that Hunter Biden
referred to his father Joe as “my guy” and
connected him to foreign

Within Burisma, Archer said that executives
told board members that Shokin was “already
taken care of, which he interpreted as
meaning his threat was blunted.
“That was the narrative that was fed to the
board,” Archer said. We were told that his
ouster was bad. We don’t want a new
prosecutor, Shokin was taken care

[/b]

At the same time memo by State Department indicated in Dec 2015 that they were satisfied with Ukraine corruption investigations and we're OK with releasing 1B aid.
That was days before JB threatened to stop the aid if Shokin was not fired.


See how the media lies to you. Here is Shokin interview excerpt with Fox. NYT , factcheck and Wapo as usual tried to prove these as unfounded claims.



I do not want to deal in unproven facts, but
my firm personal conviction is that, yes, this
was the case. They were being bribed,” Shokin
told host Brian Kilmeade. “And the fact that
Joe Biden gave away $1 billion in US money
in exchange for my dismissal, my firing, isn’t
that alone a case of corruption?”
An FBI informant file released last month
recorded claims by Zlochevsky that he was
“coerced” into paying Joe and Hunter $5
million each to ward off the probe from Kyiv’s
top law enforcement official.

BornAgainCow:
I agree with you. Boebert should be held accountable for her own actions. I have a feeling she will lose her next primary but that is on her. I don’t see how that’s an indictment of the entire Republican Party. Yes the party is generally guided by Judeo-Christian principles but at the end of the day humans fall short. And every human should be held responsible for their actions individually.

The fact these liberals see this as a big win for them is hilarious. But as you said they are not true liberals. They are just political opportunists. A true liberal will stand up against slut shaming a woman. But these internet liberals are basking in it just because it’s a conservative. And it’s not like she has nudes or sex tapes like Hunter Biden ooooo. That one is okay to them lol. Silly hypocrites.

Actually they got clear shots of Boebert in a public theatre .
But they cannot get footage of who left cocaine in the white house.
Says it all.
They still don't know who left a pipe bomb Jan 6 2021 outside the DNC and RNC offices.

And Boebert is the very first woman on earth to grab the crotch of her date in a dark theatre., .We know this courtesy of high def night vision CCTV.

BornAgainCow:
Lol. I don’t understand these liberals making a mountain over this Boebert story. So the fact that someone is conservative means they are infallible? And the fact that ONE conservative does something silly in her personal life means the entire party must be held accountable for it? Because she’s a child right? Lol. I can’t get the logic.

They are just desperate for any type of republican scandal to distract from the fact that their president is currently imploding all over the place.

And for the last time not every conservative is religious. There is a religious wing of the party no doubt but I have explained it many times before that the Republican Party is a multi-faction party. There are Many non-religious and even socially liberal Republicans.

These liberals are not really out and out liberals. They only support the causes that favour them which are liberal like black victim mentality, freebies from the west, free abortions to cover their promiscuity and so on.
With the coming of Trump, they hold some positions on many matters simply because they hate him and his supporters.

Boebert is a case brought about by her own behavior What she did does not apply across the board to everyone.
Conservativism is really about going on with long practiced ideals and traditions, which worked and which to the western world are mostly rooted in Judeo Xtian values. Liberals want to upend societal norms wth their perceived utopia. Sort of reshaping the world to be 'modern'. Some people will rather stick to their traditions which are not always religious in nature. For instance respecting your elders. Or bringing up disciplined children.

bemeruca:
There is evidence that Joe Biden was complicit in his son Hunter's corrupt business dealings in Ukraine when Biden was Vice President.
Hunter Biden was paid lavishly to serve on the board of Burisma, a shady Ukrainian energy company, likely to sell access to his father.
After Hunter joined Burisma, the company asked him to use his influence to get Ukraine to halt an investigation into Burisma and its founder.
Hunter contacted Joe Biden on behalf of Burisma. Soon after, Biden pressured Ukraine to fire the prosecutor investigating Burisma.
This was a clear conflict of interest and abuse of power by Joe Biden to help his son's business interests.
Biden helped cover up the scandal by approving a statement denying wrongdoing.
A politician concerned about propriety would have condemned and stopped these corrupt dealings, but Joe Biden tolerated and participated in them.

These are all facts

Bemeruca, Very correct. Someone here is seething that you are spewing lies about the honorable Biden family.
To add to this Ukraine firing of Shokin the Ukraine prosecutor. This is for the benefit of these Biden supporters including the coon.

FBI was briefed by a Confidential Source of theirs that Burisma owner was forced to part with a $10 million bribe to the Bidens, $5 m each to Joe and Hunter. He has 17 recordings of phone conversations with the Bidens, 15 with Hunter and 2 with Biden. And He paid the bribe through convoluted shell companies that would take years to uncover. Joe Biden threatened to block $1 B of aid to Ukraine if Shokin was not fired. And Joe bragged about it , video available.

Sad part, these idiots think that all this is a lie

IjeBos:
Yeah, Republican voters are definitely not fools nor gullible. basilico will be right along to tell us all how Republicans are really the party of Christ.

I thought I explained what you are up to. Alinsky rule No. 4.
I agree with you. She like Caesar's wife should be beyond reproach.
" For all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God".
I don't know whether that should not apply to conservatives.

"Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it" - Saul Alinsky

feedthenation:

---Boebert will surely be primaried---someone who only won her seat by 500 votes---A good representation of the GOP---a party known for their family values---

More or less smelling like a political hit.

A grandma at 36 going through a divorce after 18 years of marriage goes out on a date.
Her date is Democrat who owns a bar. Bar is pro gay and is known to host drag shows.
I doubt she knew much about her date Or maybe twas one of those days when people just decide to do crazy things.

Footage focus on her would be triggered if she had attempted to use a camera in the theatre, which she did.
Footage of her and her date is quickly released and is top news.

We are yet to see any footage of cameras outside the cell Epstein epsteined himself. We are yet to see relevant footage of the Steve Paddock who killed 58 people fand injured hundreds others rom the balcony of a high end hotel.

Based on media reports ie the real media not the evil propaganda media, the information out there is enough to send JB to Gitmo.

A new 2005 video released by GOP shows JB hosting a function accompanied by not his spouse but Hunter. He invites Hunter to greet some couple,The guy offers Hunter his card After Hunter says he had dished out all his business cards..
“Maybe we can work something out,” Joe
Biden says to the couple in the video.
“Yeah, yeah, that is what we will do,” the
woman excitedly.
“Hunter was just telling me about his law firm
in Washington, his law firm,” replies the man
next to her.

They move away to talk in private, while JB keeps the lady busy.
Says nothing, but clearly Joe was using his position to help his son's grifting business.

The GOP will crumble. Texas AG had been impeached by the Republicans but has been acquitted and reinstated by the senate. Bogus charges brought on by Bush and Karl Rove friends in Texas house. He handily beat a Bush in the election for AG

Another persecution of Trump supporters. Paxton had filed a petition to Supreme Court case in 2020 plus 17 other state AGs , but we're denied for "lack of standing".

BornAgainCow:
Ironically the one Democrat who I believe would easily wipe the floor with Trump in a general election is Bernie Sanders but the DNC is too corrupt to ever allow a populist like him win their nomination like Trump did in the Republican Party.

They rigged Bernie out the primaries TWICE in favour of Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden, two of the most swampy and corrupt establishment politicians in Washington.

About this Kennedy Jr. They arrested an armed guy with a federal badge pretending to his detail.
Biden has not given him Secret Service protection .

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/09/15/exclusive-armed-man-arrested-at-robert-f-kennedy-jr-event-in-l-a/

BornAgainCow:
Lol all you have is emotions. I’m showing you FACTS! And facts don’t care about your feelings kiddo. I’m showing you Polls and articles by well known establishment democrats urging Biden to step aside because they know he will lose. And you are here spewing emotions. Hahaha.

Here’s another FACT for you. Trump currently leads Biden among Independent voters. You are here saying it’s only his “bigoted MAGA base “ hahahaha

E go shock you!

correct

stanluiz:
There's no political come back anywhere. Trump will loose like he lost in 2020 presidential election.

Trump popularity is only growing within his bigoted maga base.

70% of his popularity came from uneducated and undereducated white men with no jobs and college degree. This are the type of people that supports Trump.

Emotional, poor, and bigoted whitemen who feels that minorities and immigrants are more rich and successful than them. These are the people that supports Trump.

Biden may not that popular. But one and one with Trump. He will beat Trump again like he did in 2020 election.

Trump is a bigoted loser that will not rest till he destroy America. But he will be defeated in 2024 again.

A Shameful incompetent ex president who does not respect the will of American people but respect autocratic foreign leaders.

I would not mind if you explained how to destroy America. The actions of omission and commission intended to destroy America.

IjeBos:
You sound very confused about your personal theology and theology in general.
But maybe you are not. Maybe you are using religion the way a lot of people try to use it.. to oppress others.

You learnt your lessons well. Hold an (im)moral position. Accuse those who hold a moral position of going against what they preach.
In other words projection at its finest. Straight from Saul Alinsky. Obama and Clinton mentors.
Hillary thesis was based on Saul Alinsky..


"Make the enemy live up to it's own book of rules."

IjeBos:
I guess it depends on your definition of religious. So, if you have 3 wives (break 2 covenants), steal from children's charities, repeatedly lie and rape/sexual harass women, buy say you a religious, then you are religious?

I see you dodged my question. "What tenants of the New Testament do you think conservatives emulate?".

I would.not talk of whatever they follow. Every individual has his own interpretation. I have not seen Bobert preaching water while drinking wine.
Again it's her life.
The worst are people who want to enforce norms previously unknown to the population. Cancelling others for not going along. I think you know what I mean.

Could bigamy be against religious law or national law over there?

Jonathan Turley is a. legal analyst , vastly experienced in constitutional law. Here is his take on why the Joe Biden impeachment inquiry is warranted. For those with an open mind , the article will enrich you.

https://jonathanturley.org/2023/09/14/five-facts-that-compel-the-biden-impeachment-inquiry/

As expected all those in positions to support the impeachment inquiry have resulted in mudslinging. Probing the personal lives in a bid to make everyone look bad , hence unworthy of investigating/questioning the Bidens corruption.

Nancy Pelosi started the shampeachement without a floor vote, setting the precedence for McCarthy to do the same. In the second one,, they moved on to the floor vote after a limited committee hearing. It's back to bite them.

Another area Pelosi will be remembered for. Voting by proxy. Sometimes legislators want to be away during a crucial vote, Pelosi overcame abstentions by having Congress members vote on behalf of others not present in the house. .Kai Kahele of Hawaii avoided Washington for months , having others vote for him, while he campaigned for governor and worked as a pilot for Hawaii Airlines.
This proxy voting was used by both parties because of " covid" while in reality many of them were holding other functions and parties sometimes on yachts.
All the same with a democrat majority then , their votes would always pass whether members were present or not.

100 companies have been named as emitting 71% of the green house gases. They will cause the world temperatures to rise by 4 degree Celsius resulting in extinction of species and threaten food production.

The top ten CO2 emitters are

China Coal 14.3 %
Saudi Aramco 4.5 %
Gazprom OAO 3.9 %
National Iranian
Oil Co 2.3 %
ExxonMobil Corp 2.0 %
Coal India 1.9 %
Petróleos Mexicanos 1.9 %
Russia Coal 1.9 %
Royal Dutch Shell PLC 1.7 %
China National Petroleum Corp 1.6 %

Several top companies have committed to use 100% renewable energy. These include Apple, Google Alphabet, Microsoft and the likes.

Investors should move out of fossil
fuels, says Michael Brune, executive
director of US environmental
organisation the Sierra Club. “Not
only is it morally risky, it’s
economically risky. The world is
moving away from fossil fuels towards
clean energy and is doing so at an
accelerated pace. Those left holding
investments in fossil fuel companies
will find their investments becoming
more and more risky over time.”




I am not saying anything about climate change.

IjeBos:
You keep making this statement. In which way? What tenants of the New Testament do you think conservatives emulate?
Conservatives are "religious" the same way a police officer in Nigeria who harasses you, threatens you, asks for a bribe and then says "God bless" after he gets it, is religious.

Conservatives societies have always been religious be they Christian, Islam, Buddhists, Zoroastrians, etc.
Leftist societies have always been more secular.

I always thought that's common knowledge.

IjeBos:
You seem not to understand. Husband and Wife sharing with other consenting adults. Not my cup of tea. Wouldn't be in my circle. But, I don't care. I do care about people who profess morality publicly and use that morality as a club to batter others and shield while being degenerates. Like cheating on your partner or smoking inside a packed auditorium in front of a pregnant woman while your date fondles your breasts. What would your Bible would call those type of people.

All people do have the same.moral compass? I have not seen her preaching fire and brimstones to sinners.
Joe fondles kids, loves the queer, abortions and still wants to partake in the holy communion knowing very well the stand of Catholics.
For a fact, conservatives are more religious than democrats , none of them is a saint.

IjeBos:
Family Values Party indeed.
It's being reported that Kristi Noem(Governor of South Dakota) having an affair with Trump advisor
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12509093/Kristin-Noem-Corey-Lewandowski-secret-affair.html

A Democratic candidate for the Virginia House
of Delegates performed sex acts with her
husband online — and asked her virtual
audience to pitch in with “tips,” The Post has
learned.
Susanna Gibson, a mother of two young
children who is running in a competitive race
to represent District 57 in Richmond, showed
quite a bit more than skin on the adult
streaming website Chaturbate, according to
screenshots of archived material
The 40-year-old nurse practitioner hosted
more than a dozen of the live romps with her
husband on the platform, which was then
posted to a publicly accessible archive on the
website Recurbate in September 2022 after
she declared her candidacy, the Washington
Post first reported.
Gibson also apparently maintained her
Chaturbate profile after having announced her
campaign in July 2022, uploading at least one
picture of herself on the sex streaming site

Hmmmm. Interesting.

Where are these clowns who have been regaling us about Hunter Biden innocence.
The Dems started this, it will devour them in the end unless they can grab and maintain power forever. Fall of a once great nation imminent. Ruled by a heavily compromised president whose cult following has gone missing.
What politics is involved when Hunter lied in the form about his drug use when buying a gun?
****SMH****

The indictment notes that when buying guns,
people must fill out a form saying — among
other things — that they do not use illegal
drugs. In October 2018, the indictment
continues, Biden bought a gun despite being a
drug user. It says he owned a Colt Cobra
revolver for about 11 days — from “on or
about” Oct. 12, 2018, until “on or about” Oct.
23, 2018.
If convicted, Biden could face up to 25 years in
prison and hundreds of thousands of dollars in
fines. However, sentences are often issued
below the maximum length allowed, and some
defendants don’t face jail time at all.