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John 14:26


English Standard Version
But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will
send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring
to your remembrance all that I have said to you.

Adam was instructed to fill up the world.
What the OP is deducing is nothing but conjectures and illogical conclusions.
How was Adam and Eve supposed to multiply and fill the earth?
Using science to come up with nonsense.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
But you, be fruitful and multiply ; spread out over the
earth and multiply on it.”
New American Standard Bible
"As for you, be fruitful and multiply; Populate the earth
abundantly and multiply in it."
King James Bible
And you, be ye fruitful, and multiply; bring forth
abundantly in the earth, and multiply therein.
Parallel Verses
New International Version
As for you, be fruitful and increase in number; multiply
on the earth and increase upon it."
New Living Translation
Now be fruitful and multiply, and repopulate the earth."
English Standard Version
And you, be fruitful and multiply, increase greatly on
the earth and multiply in it.”
New American Standard Bible
"As for you, be fruitful and multiply; Populate the earth
abundantly and multiply in it."
King James Bible
And you, be ye fruitful, and multiply; bring forth
abundantly in the earth, and multiply therein.
Holman Christian Standard Bible
But you, be fruitful and multiply; spread out over the
earth and multiply on it."
International Standard Version
Now as for you, be productive and multiply; spread out
over the land and multiply throughout it."
NET Bible
But as for you, be fruitful and multiply; increase
abundantly on the earth and multiply on it."
GOD'S WORD® Translation
Be fertile, and increase in number. Spread over the
earth, and increase."
King James 2000 Bible
And you, be you fruitful, and multiply; bring forth
abundantly in the earth, and multiply therein.
American King James Version
And you, be you fruitful, and multiply; bring forth
abundantly in the earth, and multiply therein.
American Standard Version
And you, be ye fruitful, and multiply; Bring forth
abundantly in the earth, and multiply therein.
Douay-Rheims Bible
But increase you and multiply, and go upon the earth,
and fill it.
Darby Bible Translation
And ye, be fruitful and multiply: swarm on the earth,
and multiply on it.
English Revised Version
And you, be ye fruitful, and multiply; bring forth
abundantly in the earth, and multiply therein.
Webster's Bible Translation
And you, be ye fruitful, and multiply, bring forth
abundantly in the earth, and multiply therein.
World English Bible
Be fruitful and multiply. Bring forth abundantly in the
earth, and multiply in it."
Young's Literal Translation
And ye, be fruitful and multiply, teem in the earth, and
multiply in it.'

@ annikay Why does Islam mention 124k prophets but names only 25?
Where does Quran mention Jerusalem?
And indeed if Jesus was a prophet in Islam What did he prophecy about according to the Qur'an? That Muhammad would cone after him and marry a six year old gal and consummate that marriage when she got to nine years while he was 54 years old?

Still no answer.Allah allows his prophet at least 11 concurrent wives but bans the ummah more than 4 concurrent wives. Was Allah prophet Muhammed and why was he so much concerned about how many wives his prophet could sleep with in a night?
Hint hint Allah might have been Muhammad.

What proof do we even have that Allah revealed anything to his prophet?
Why did Allah not reveal to his prophet directly but instead over 20 years used his angel ? To answer this Angel Gabriel was sent to Mary and the illiterate Muhammad thought that by using the same Angel he would gain some credibility.
Why would God reveal his promises to someone who in today's life would spend years in a slammer for murder, paedophilia, robbery with violence and crimes against humanity?
The whole idea if arguing with Muslims is based on the premise that indeed God spoke to that prophet. I posit that real God would never speak to that criminal judging by his actions on today's weigh scale. Satan would gleefully have spoken to that Islam prophet judging by the fruits of his followers then and now #hebdoattackbymuslims

He supports the killing until all religion is for Allah. IN my experience all Muslims just want one thing. Convert everyone to Islam. Show me a single verse that recognises other religions from the Quran. Paste it here where Islam recognized other religion.

Islam has a way of twisting the truth..Muslims desperate to validate their Prophets prophethood go to the bible.
Just to digress.. What do Muslims say about John 3:16 ? They quote John verse about comforter 14:16 which they decide refers to Muhammad but will never say 3:16 is real.
Who corrupted The Injeel ,separating verses that don't recognize the fake prophet?

crouch2014:
This the cartoon causing problems in France....

*R.I.P to those that lost their lives*

When you criticise Islam Muslims will kill you.
Sunni forum and other online fora are very happy about the killings.

All Islamic early writings acknowledge that prophet Muhammad had at least 11 wives at one point besides s,,ex slaves or rather harem. Why did Allah command the ummah to marry a maximum of four wives while the prophet was allowed more?
I know apologists will say that the extra wives were taken in to create unity and so on...But the prophet killed men and married their wives. Safiyyah for instance..she was Kinana wife whom the prophet ordered beheaded and married his wife.
Why Allah revealed that the prophet should have more wives than the ummah?

Thanking the French for letting them live by doing what they excel at. Terrorism

Mahdino are you still alive?Or you moved to the Islamic State? Or you apostated?

Let me state categorically that Islam is not an Abrahamic religion. Prophet Muhammad claimed lineage to Abraham which is a big lie.
In some other thread I posited that according to biblical exegesis Ishmael could not possibly be the father of the Arabic nation . Reason is that according to the bible he married an EGYPTIAN. It is common sense that if Ishmael married an Egyptian Then it follows that Egyptians came before Arabs. But then Arab pagans were in existence then. Muhammad just concocted a story about him being a descendant of Abraham and looked around for a story to fit the narrative.
His narrative therefore concludes that Egyptians came before the desert Arabs. Not possible.

benalvino2:
he is trying to say the moon god Allah is the same god we are worshipping.

Seems like you know Allah was a moon god .Before the prophet captured Mecca

benalvino2:
he is trying to say the moon god Allah is the same god we are worshipping.

Seems like you know Allah was a moon god .Before the prophet captured Mecca there were 360 gods the Arab pagans worshipped at the Kaaba.The prophet note lower case prophet came by with a vengeance 2 years later swearing to kill a certain Quraish Arab who had derided him before he fled to Medina. Rasullah ordered that this critic should be murdered even if he was holding on to the Kaaba curtains.
What a vengeful Allah .

I have just quoted a top Saudi cleric confirming Aisha was 9 years old when her marriage to rasullulah was consummated. Rasullulah was 54 years then.
In other news Egyptian president asked the top Al Azhar Sunni scholars how on earth 1.6billion Muslims expect to kill 7 billion non Muslims. He is basically calling for a reformation of Islamic doctrines subtly which dictate that peace will only come when all religion is for Allah. Sisi shames me being Muslim who I critique now and then... Never knew there are Muslims who can see thru the BS of their prophet .

Back in 2011, for example, Dr. Salih bin Fawzan, a
prominent cleric and member of Saudi Arabia’s highest
religious council, issued a fatwa asserting that there is
no minimum age for marriage and that girls can be
married “even if they are in the cradle.”
Appearing in Saudi papers, the fatwa complained that
“Uninformed interference with Sharia rulings by the
press and journalists is on the increase”—likely a
reference to the justice ministry’s advocacy—“posing
dire consequences to society, including their interference
with the question of marriage to small girls who have
not reached maturity, and their demand that a minimum
age be set for girls to marry.”
Fawzan insisted that nowhere does Sharia (or Islamic
law) set an age limit for marrying girls: like countless
Muslim scholars before him, he relied on Koran 65:4,
which discusses marriage to females who have not yet
begun menstruating (i.e., are prepubescent) and the
fact that Muhammad, Islam’s role model, married Aisha
when she was six or seven, “consummating” the
marriage—or, in modern/Western parlance, raping her—
when she was nine.
The grand point of the Saudi fatwa, however, is not that
girls as young as nine can be married, based on
Muhammad’s example, but rather that there is no age
limit whatsoever. The only question open to
consideration is whether the girl is physically capable of
handling her “husband.” Fawzan documented this point
by quoting Ibn Battal’s authoritative exegesis of Sahih
Bukhari:
The ulema [Islam’s scholars and interpreters] have
agreed that it is permissible for fathers to marry off
their small daughters, even if they are in the cradle.
But it is not permissible for their husbands to have
sex with them unless they are capable of being
placed beneath and bearing the weight of the men.
And their capability in this regard varies based on
their nature and capacity. Aisha was six when she
married the prophet, but he had sex with her when
she was nine [that is, when she was deemed
capable].
Fawzan concluded his fatwa with a warning: “It
behooves those who call for setting a minimum age for
marriage to fear Allah and not contradict his Sharia, or
try to legislate things Allah did not permit. For laws are
Allah’s province; and legislation is his exclusive right, to
be shared by none other. And among these are the rules
governing marriage.”
Once again, case closed.
Fawzan, of course, is not the first to insist on the
legitimacy of pedophilia in Islam. Nor is this just some
theoretic, abstract point; the lives of countless young
girls are devastated because of this teaching. Recall, for
instance, the 8-year-old girl who died on her “wedding”
night as her “husband” raped her; or the 12-year-old
who died giving birth to a stillborn; or the 10-year-old
who made headlines by hiding from her 80-year-old
“husband.”
Finally, it should be borne in mind that Grand Mufti
Abdul Aziz—the highest Islamic authority in the land of
Islam’s birth—not only dismisses calls to place an age
restriction for marriage, but is the same Grand Mufti
who called for the destruction of all Christian churches
on the Arabian Peninsula ( as first reported here).
The consistency makes perfect sense. After all, in the
eyes of non-Muslims, or “non-believers,” Sharia law is
nothing less than a legal system built atop the words
and deeds of a seventh century Arab, whose behavior—
from pedophilia and sex-slavery to war mongering and
plundering to destroying non-Muslim places of worship
—was very much that of a seventh century Arab.

domack99:
You have decided to stick to 15-16, as human being that's what you are comfortable with. well I pick 10-14 based on what I read and I provided the link as evidence, didn't see your on prove for 15-16.

But wait, can you allow your sister or daughter to get married at 15?, I guess the answer is NO, then God must be wicked for putting such burden on Mary at that young age, Right? God is NEVER wicked. Bros, this is the tradition, culture and norm at that period, Get that to your brain






LOL, I thought you said they are Muslims, if they go to church why do you call them Muslim, You LIED just to buttress you point, a goof Protestant wouldn't do that

The only reference to Mary being 12or 14 years is a general writing in Britannica encyclopedia saying Jewish women at that time would be around that age at marriage.
For Aisha all Islamic ancient writings quote her saying she was ra..ped at 9 by . Britannica Is no authority just like wikipedia.
Face a simple fact.. A 54 year old sleeping. with a nine year old.

Taqqiya in action. So what if Mary was 12 years.
The topic which all earlier writers have been quoted are all swaying Aisha was 6 when betrothed and 9 at consummation.
They that today and you will jailed for an awful long time.
Seems Allah did not know that years later sleeping with a nine year old would be a gross offense . And Allah is all knowing.

PastorKun:
God forbid bad thing, my generation both born and unborn belong to Jesus. They would never leave light for darkness in Jesus name.

Other than the fact that Muslims haven't killed every
non-Muslim under their domain, there is very little else
that they can point to as proof that theirs is a peaceful,
tolerant religion. Where Islam is dominant (as in the
Middle East and Pakistan) religious minorities suffer
brutal persecution with little resistance. Where Islam is
in the minority (as in Thailand, the Philippines and
Europe) there is the threat of violence if Muslim
demands are not met. Either situation seems to provide
a justification for religious terrorism, which is persistent
and endemic to Islamic fundamentalism.
The reasons are obvious and begin with the Quran. Few
verses of Islam's most sacred text can be construed to
fit the contemporary virtues of religious tolerance and
universal brotherhood. Those that do are earlier
"Meccan" verses which are obviously abrogated by later
ones. This is why Muslim apologists speak of the
"risks" of trying to interpret the Quran without their
"assistance" - even while claiming that it is a perfect
book.
Far from being mere history or theological construct, the
violent verses of the Quran have played a key role in
very real massacre and genocide. This includes the
brutal slaughter of tens of millions of Hindus for five
centuries beginning around 1000 AD with Mahmud of
Ghazni's bloody conquest. Both he and the later
Tamerlane (Islam's Genghis Khan) slaughtered an
untold number merely for defending their temples from
destruction. Buddhism was very nearly wiped off the
Indian subcontinent. Judaism and Christianity met the
same fate (albeit more slowly) in areas conquered by
Muslim armies, including the Middle East, North Africa
and parts of Europe, including today's Turkey.
Zoroastrianism, the ancient religion of a proud Persian
people is despised by Muslims and barely survives in
modern Iran.
So ingrained is violence in the religion that Islam has
never really stopped being at war, either with other
religions or with itself.
Muhammad was a military leader, laying siege to towns,
massacring the men, raping their women, enslaving their
children, and taking the property of others as his own.
On several occasions he rejected offers of surrender
from the besieged inhabitants and even butchered
captives . He actually inspired his followers to battle
when they did not feel it was right to fight, promising
them slaves and booty if they did and threatening them
with Hell if they did not. Muhammad allowed his men to
rape traumatized women captured in battle, usually on
the very day their husbands and family members were
slaughtered.
It is important to emphasize that, for the most part,
Muslim armies waged aggressive campaigns, and the
religion's most dramatic military conquests were made
by the actual companions of Muhammad in the decades
following his death. The early Islamic principle of
warfare was that the civilian population of a town was
to be destroyed (ie. men executed, women and children
taken as slaves) if they defended themselves. Although
modern apologists often claim that Muslims are only
supposed to attack in self-defense, this is an oxymoron
that is flatly contradicted by the accounts of Islamic
historians and others that go back to the time of
Muhammad.
Consider the example of the Qurayza Jews, who were
completely obliterated only five years after Muhammad
arrived in Medina. Their leader opted to stay neutral
when their town was besieged by a Meccan army that
was sent to take revenge for Muhammad's deadly
caravan raids. The tribe killed no one from either side
and even surrendered peacefully to Muhammad after the
Meccans had been turned back. Yet the prophet of
Islam had every male member of the Qurayza beheaded,
and every woman and child enslaved, even raping one of
the captives himself (what Muslim apologists might
refer to as "same day marriage".
One of Islam's most revered modern scholars, Sheikh
Yusuf al-Qaradawi, openly sanctions offensive Jihad: "In
the Jihad which you are seeking, you look for the enemy
and invade him. This type of Jihad takes place only
when the Islamic state is invading other [countries] in
order to spread the word of Islam and to remove
obstacles standing in its way." Elsewhere, he notes:
"Islam has the right to take the initiative…this is God’s
religion and it is for the whole world. It has the right to
destroy all obstacles in the form of institutions and
traditions … it attacks institutions and traditions to
release human beings from their poisonous influences,
which distort human nature and curtail human freedom.
Those who say that Islamic Jihad was merely for the
defense of the 'homeland of Islam' diminish the
greatness of the Islamic way of life."
The widely respected Dictionary of Islam defines Jihad
as "A religious war with those who are unbelievers in
the mission of Muhammad. It is an incumbent religious
duty, established in the Qur'an and in the Traditions as
a divine institution, and enjoined specially for the
purpose of advancing Islam and of repelling evil from
Muslims…[Quoting from the Hanafi school, Hedaya,
2:140, 141.], " The destruction of the sword is incurred
by infidels, although they be not the first aggressors ,
as appears from various passages in the traditions
which are generally received to this effect."
Dr. Salah al-Sawy, the chief member of the Assembly of
Muslim Jurists in America, stated in 2009 that " the
Islamic community does not possess the strength to
engage in offensive jihad at this time," tacitly affirming
the legitimacy of violence for the cause of Islamic rule -
bound only by the capacity for success. ( source)
Muhammad's failure to leave a clear line of succession
resulted in perpetual internal war following his death.
Those who knew him best first fought to keep remote
tribes from leaving Islam and reverting to their preferred
religion (the Ridda or 'Apostasy wars'). Then, within the
closer community, early Meccan converts battled later
ones. Hostility developed between those immigrants
who had traveled with Muhammad to Mecca and the
Ansar at Medina who had helped them settle in. Finally
there was a violent struggle within Muhammad's own
family between his favorite wife and favorite daughter -
a jagged schism that has left Shias and Sunnis at each
others' throats to this day.
The strangest and most untrue thing that can be said
about Islam is that it is a Religion of Peace. If every
standard by which the West is judged and condemned
(slavery, imperialism, intolerance, misogyny, sexual
repression, warfare...) were applied equally to Islam, the
verdict would be devastating. Islam never gives up what
it conquers, be it religion, culture, language or life.
Neither does it make apologies or any real effort at
moral progress. It is the least open to dialogue and the
most self-absorbed. It is convinced of its own
perfection, yet brutally shuns self-examination and
represses criticism.
This is what makes the Quran's verses of violence so
dangerous. They are given the weight of divine
command. While Muslim terrorists take them as literally
as anything else in their holy book, and understand that
Islam is incomplete without Jihad, moderates offer little
to contradict them - outside of opinion. Indeed, what do
they have? Speaking of peace and love may win over
the ignorant, but when every twelfth verse of Islam's
holiest book either speaks to Allah's hatred for non-
Muslims or calls for their death, forced conversion, or
subjugation, it's little wonder that sympathy for
terrorism runs as deeply as it does in the broader
community - even if most Muslims personally prefer not
to interpret their religion in this way.
Although scholars like Ibn Khaldun, one of Islam's most
respected philosophers, understood that "the holy war is
a religious duty, because of the universalism of the
Muslim mission and (the obligation to) convert
everybody to Islam either by persuasion or by force",
many other Muslims are either unaware or willfully
ignorant of the Quran's near absence of verses that
preach universal non-violence. Their understanding of
Islam comes from what they are taught by others. In
the West, it is typical for believers to think that their
religion must be like Christianity - preaching the New
Testament virtues of peace, love, and tolerance -
because Muslims are taught that Islam is supposed to
be superior in every way. They are somewhat surprised
and embarrassed to learn that the evidence of the
Quran and the bloody history of Islam are very much in
contradiction to this.
Others simply accept the violence. In 1991, a Palestinian
couple in America was convicted of stabbing their
daughter to death for being too Westernized. A family
friend came to their defense, excoriating the jury for not
understanding the "culture", claiming that the father
was merely following "the religion" and saying that the
couple had to "discipline their daughter or lose
respect." ( source ). In 2011, unrepentant Palestinian
terrorists, responsible for the brutal murders of civilians,
women and children explicitly in the name of Allah were
treated to a luxurious "holy pilgrimage" to Mecca by the
Saudi king - without a single Muslim voice raised in
protest.
For their part, Western liberals would do well not to
sacrifice critical thinking to the god of political
correctness, or look for reasons to bring other religion
down to the level of Islam merely to avoid the existential
truth that this it is both different and dangerous.
There are just too many Muslims who take the Quran
literally... and too many others who couldn't care less
about the violence done in the name of Islam

Muslim radicalized followers continue jihad....

I see his fruits from the wahabbi and salafist sects.
They aspire to live like he did.
Boko haram.

Muslims furious at Obama over monday iftar dinner. He invited Israel Ambassador who spoke first . Muslims furious because a Jew was invited, spoke first and then Obama said Israel has the right to defend itself from hamas rockets.



World Bulletin / News Desk
An analyst has accused US President Barack
Obama of setting a trap for American Muslim
leaders when he invited them to an iftar (fast-
breaking dinner) at the White House on Monday.
Writing for Press TV, Kevin Barrett reported that
the event was opened by far-right Israeli
ambassador Ron Dermer, who had once said that
Arabs and Muslims have “a cultural tendency
towards belligerency” that is “deeply imbedded in
the culture of the Arab world and its foremost
religion.”
Dermer, who according to the Israeli daily Haaretz
is a “right-wing neo-con with close ties to Bush
family,” addressed an audience of Muslim guests
in the White House while the bombing of Gazan
civilians by the Israeli army continued.
After Dermer gave a speech attempting to justify
the bombing of civilians in Gaza, Obama himself
then gave a follow up speech saying that Israel
had “the right to defend itself.”
Dr. Kevin Barrett, a Ph.D. Arabist-Islamologist
and co-founder of the Muslim-Christian-Jewish
Alliance, went on to accuse Obama of
intentionally seeking a reaction from the Muslim
guests.

Straight from the Quran and early Islamic sources


Narrated Anas bin Malik: Allah's Apostle said, "You should listen to and obey, your ruler even if he was an Ethiopian (black) slave whose head looks like a raisin."
Sahih Bukhari 9:89:256

Qur'an 39:60
And on the day of resurrection you shall see those who lied against Allah; their faces shall be blackened. Is there not in hell an abode for the proud?

Ishaq:243 “I heard the Apostle say: ‘Whoever wants to see Satan should look at Nabtal!’ He was a black man with long flowing hair, inflamed eyes, and dark ruddy cheeks…. Allah sent down concerning him: ‘To those who annoy the Prophet there is a painful doom.” [9:61] “Gabriel came to Muhammad and said, ‘If a black man comes to you his heart is more gross than a donkey’s.’”


Al-Tirmidhi Hadith - 38
Narrated AbudDarda'
Allah's Messenger (peace be upon him) said: Allah created Adam when He had to create him and He struck his right shoulder and there emitted from it white offspring as if they were white ants. He struck his left shoulder and there emitted from it the black offspring as if they were charcoal. He then said (to those who had been emitted) from the right (shoulder): For Paradise and I do not mind. Then He said to those (who had been emitted) from his left shoulder: They are for Hell and I do not mind.