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tartar9:
so a hadith says; Muhammad lied to Hafsa that her father
wanted to see her. Dutifully she goes but on
getting to her father he tells her there was no
such thing .
She goes back home to the harem and what does
she find? Prophet Muhammad in bed with her
maid.
The prophet promises her that he will not touch
Mariya again if only she keeps quiet. She does
not. She tells the harem what the prophet was on
to while she was away.
The harem becomes unhappy and grumbles…
human! you need to get your cranium checked

Typical Muslim modus operandi. Start by lying. Kuffar does not buy that. Resort to insults. kuffar refuses to buy that too.
Finally turn to threats , walk off and declare you have won the debate.

EzioAuditore:
A www! Unfortunately for christians, it's not so, King prawn. Can't you see the ease at which your christian brothers are converting to Islam? Heck! Most of them are turning into atheists. Like I said earlier, that's because your religion is sh*t.

You have from madrassa been fed that nonsense that the criminal prophet who murdered, raped,pillaged, kept and sold slaves was the (im)perfect man. He was not. Your prophet is the greatest villain ever lived and walked.
I repeat If you do the things he did today You would be busted and sent to jail forever

Muslims claim Qur'an is the perfect book. When in a debate with them they start with that reasoning.The Quran is perfect.
When asked why the Quran is perfect they answer. Because it says so.

This is circular reasoning. Quran is perfect because it says so. Years of inbreeding and indoctrination of young Muslims closes their mind to reason . Thus Muslims are fully conviced that Islam founded by that criminal is perfect and all muslins should love the prophet more than themselves. A child from 6/7 years is fed that nonsense and it becomes difficult to convince that child otherwise.

Babacele:
What is your aim and mission reminding us about this stories on the Holy prophet (PBUH) at this time? to cause resentment, hatred, anger n violence because your initial sinister plan of causing religious stalemate to truncate Nigeria's march to freedom through HE president elect GMB didn't work? Christ see us all and may it be done unto you according to thy wish saTANoid!

Babacele Take a risk. Read the sira biography of prophet Muhammad. Then dare to think the OP is right for just one day and verify whether I am right.
If you can take that risk You will leave islam

true2god:
The debate bw christians and muslums have been going on for over 7yrs on nairaland. So what does Buhari election got to do with the fact that mohammed married a girl of 6, married his adopted son's wife, married 11 wives but asked muslims to marry maximum of 4?

Are you saying you will create chaos if someone points out facts that are even in you hadith? You can only intimidate infidels in pakistan, saudi arabia, sudan, iran, afghanistan and other islamic countries. You cant intimidate we 'infidels' here in nigeria with your islamic threat.

So gerrout if you cant cope with our exposing mohammed and islam for what it really stands for.

When Muslims lies are not bought by kuffar They resort to intimidation and threats.

EzioAuditore:
So are you accepting your new name? If you are, then I'll be glad to answer your question once you admit you're a liar.

Those websites I quoted have excerpts from Sahih hadeeth,Qur'an et all.
Stop derailing the thread.Muhammad preached water but drink wine.
He was a liar. I only have one handle here .
He was ordering his followers to do what he was not doing. His actions clearly violate the Quran but you can't admit that.

EzioAuditore:
That's your evidence? Two websites dedicated to bashing islam? Like I said bring forth proof from a credible Islamic source or forever be known as King prawn.

1400 years later please show me any good deed by your prophet apart from ordering Muslim men to marry 4 wives.

EzioAuditore:
1- where and when did Allah (SWT) ban adoption?

2- where is it said or even implied that Gabriel had intercourse with Mary (RA)?
If you can't bring forth solid proof and or evidence, then you will forever be known as King prawn.

2. http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Allah_and_Marys_Vagina

1. http://crombouke..com/2011/03/why-muslims-are-forbidden-to-adopt.html?m=1

Rilwayne001:
Was jesus a descendant of David or not?

Please don't tell me nonsense here. Answer the question straight

I can understand your question. Muhammad and his Allah banned adoption so that muhammad would by allah be allowed his daughter in law and so your mind cannot comprehend Joseph being the earthly father of Jesus.
Islam retards people.
Perfect example.
I have said elsewhere that Muslims think Angel Gabriel had intercourse with Mary the mother of Jesus.
Leave Islam my brother. We only have love not hate.

Rilwayne001:
Was jesus a descendant of David or not?

Please don't tell me nonsense here. Answer the question straight

I can understand your question. Muhammad and his Allah banned adoption and so your mind cannot comprehend Joseph being the earthly father of Jesus.
Islam retards people.

In the university Wikipedia can never be quoted because anyone can edit.
This is Wikipedia Islam version of maid Mariya

[quote]Marya bint Sham'ûn , better known as Marya al-
Qubtiyyah ( Arabic : ﻣﺎﺭﻳﺔ ﺍﻟﻘﺒﻄﻴﺔ ) (alternatively,
" Marya Quptiyah ", or Maria the Copt , (died 637)
was an Egyptian Coptic Bondswoman who was
gifted to the Islamic prophet Muhammad in 628
by Muqawqis the Copt, the Christian ruler of
Egypt at the time. She accepted Islam on the
way to Al-Madinah and bore the Prophet a Son,
Ibrahim [may Allah be pleased with them] who
passed away in childhood, and was later a free
woman until she passed away almost five years
later. [1]
Blah blah blah
[/qoute]

Notice how it says she was gifted to the prophet while in reality. Wikipedia even lies that she accepted Islam. I'll dig up on how she came to be a slave
She even bore him a son whom Allah did not allow him reach adulthood.

Ifeann:
I know the story well. Notice how the "revelation" came just at the right moment telling him its okay to act on his desires.

I never quoted the hadith's. Truthman has an active thread of that prophet other marriage Which basically shows how Allah wanted the best of sexxxx for his messenger.

I did not mention that the girl child bride Aisha commented that Allah hearkens to his desires.
Aisha the girl child bride was not stupid after all.

The story thus goes


Mariya was a Coptic maid to one of his wives named Hafsa.
One day Muhammad lies to Hafsa that her father wanted to see her. Dutifully she goes but on getting to her father he tells her there was no such thing .
She goes back home to the harem and what does she find? Prophet Muhammad in bed with her maid.
The prophet promises her that he will not touch Mariya again if only she keeps quiet. She does not. She tells the harem what the prophet was on to while she was away.
The harem becomes unhappy and grumbles.

Allah comes to his prophets aid and reveals a verse that the prophet should not suffer for what he desires.
Muhammad then vows to stay away from them for one month.
He also threatens to divorce all of them.
During that month he lives with Mariya Some sources day she got pregnant around that time.


. O Prophet! Why do you ban (for yourself) that
which Allâh has made lawful to you, seeking to
please your wives? And Allâh is Oft-Forgiving,
Most Merciful.

This prophet loved having sexxxx.

Allah banned adoption so that Muhammad could marry his cousin that aroused desire in him.
Cousin marriage leads to inbreeding and a whole lot of genetical issues too.
Inbred children have higher chances of being retarded.
Pakistan has the highest per capital retards.

Two things. Muhammad only found Jewish prophets in his ascension to heaven. They did not even know him asking Jibril who Muhammad was.
Neither did he find any Muslim with the first martyr having died 7 years before his ascent.

Muhammad also commanded all Muslims to love him more than anyone else. We find a hadith where someone stabbed his wife for making comments about Muhammad's fairy tales. Muhammad was pleased with that action.

A blind man had a freed concubine (Umm
walad) who used to insult the Prophet (peace
and blessings of Allah be upon him) and say bad
things about him. He told her not to do that but
she did not stop, and he rebuked her but she did
not heed him. One night, when she started to
say bad things about the Prophet (peace and
blessings of Allah be upon him) and insult him,
he took a short sword or dagger, put it on her
belly and pressed it and killed her. A child fell
between her legs, and became covered by blood.
The following morning that was mentioned to the
Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of
Allah be upon him). He called the people
together and said, “I ask by Allah the man who
has done this action and I order him by my right
over him that he should stand up.” The blind
man stood up and said, “O Messenger of Allah, I
am the one who did it; she used to insult you
and say bad things about you. I forbade her, but
she did not stop, and I rebuked her, but she did
not give up her habit. I have two sons like pearls
from her, and she was kind to me. Last night
she began to insult you and say bad things about
you. So I took a dagger, put it on her belly and
pressed it till I killed her.” Thereupon the
Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon
him) said: “Bear witness, there is no blood
money due for her.

All muslim s have been told by their imams to love Muhammad more than their lives . In any thread you can clearly see how they defend him mostly lying and finally using threats.

Summarised.
Muhammad adopts a son. Gets the adopted son to marry his (Muhammad) COUSIN.
One day he sees her semi nude and desired her sexuallly..
Allah reveals a verse that its OK to marry the divorced wives of his adopted sons.
Muhammad then goes ahead and marries her.
Phew.


Even going back to cousins Abu Bakr told Muhammad that he was like a brother to him hence could not give away his 6 year Aisha to the old 54 geezer. But Muhammad told Abu Bakr that child Aisha was lawful to him. Abu Bakr later became the caliph.

Why Abraham would leave Israel to travel 900 miles is ridiculous.
Ishmael even attended his burial which means he was not 900 miles away.
Ishmael married an Egyptian which means Arabs are descendants of the Copts

Zam zam well was dug up about 100 years before the prophet of Islam.
Islam just don't make sense.

This character saying this crazy stuff is prophesied in the bible

[quote][/quote]A hadith depicts Muhammad saying: “If a
husband calls his wife to his bed [i.e. to have
sexual relation] and she refuses and causes
him to sleep in anger, the angels will curse
her till morning” (Bukhari 4.54.460).
And: “By him in Whose Hand lies my life, a
woman can not carry out the right of her
Lord, till she carries out the right of her
husband. And if he asks her to surrender
herself [to him for sexual intercourse] she
should not refuse him even if she is on a
camel’s saddle” (Ibn Majah 1854).

Muhmad would wear his many wives clothes.
But he would only receive revelations when he was dressed in Aisha's clothes.
I picture a 55 plus man with a hump on his back wearing a 10 plus girls clothes.
Gross.

Ezio Muhammad is s fake. No miracle to his name

I stop here but add that a paedophile can never ever be a prophet

HaroldFinch:
I now perfectly understand that you belong to those who would stop at nothing to ridicule islam. It has been said for more than 1400 years ago that people like you have your ears, eyes and mouth shut to the truth and will never see the truth, no matter what. I'll start from the last verse you quoted, which I believe will tell everyone reading this that you're not just under a guise of misconception, but an outright bi. got who would stop at nothing all in the name of doing what has made Islam grow even more. I have taken the screen shot of the verse you created below. Maybe you should write your own Quran.

http://quran.com/38/41-44

Your prophet was a highway robber, a paedophile, a rapist, a murderer, a fetish crazed animal.
We can quote your books to support all my assertions.
You believe in a criminal.
I repeat . If you enact his lifestyle today You will be jailed for a long time.

Ifeann:
Yes jihadist groups are all agents of the devil inspired by Islam which is the work of the devil and a fraudulent "prophet" Mohammed . At least u admit that.

The really true Muslims are those engaged in jihad like ISIS, Book Haram, Al Qaeda, LET, Taliban, Hezbollah and are waging the obligatory jihad. Every other Muslim who claims to be a Muslim is just deceiving Kufar by not waging jihad.
The jihadists We kufar can bomb them to stone age but their enablers who in a few minutes can become jihadists are hiding under Human rights.

Abuamam:
Waiting for what? I have no interest in engaging her in her foolishness. I merely pointed out her technique in the op.

If you are referring to her set of 'questions', this is the 3rd time (to my knowledge) that she is posting them on NL alone. We have answered them before. I refuse to continue this dumb game.

Abuaman Your prophet scolded pagan gods including al Manat Al Uzza and Al lat from 610 AD till the hijra in 622 AD. He ran away because the Meccans got tired of him and wanted to kill him .
Then he moved to Medina and started his life career of robbing and murdering. If those Meccans had murdered him there would be no Islam today.
Its a miracle that a cult with 300 m dead today is still alive. And with a billion plus followers. miracle of islam

EzioAuditore:
The crescent moon has nothing to do with Islam! The fact that you see it on mosques is only because it was invented later on, that's why some Muslims reject such practices! I can prove to you that you're worshipping a pagan God, are you interested?

Liar liar taqqiya mongering muzlim rat. Allah was the pagan god that Muhammad took over and made him the supreme deity.
Who even tells you I worship any God .All I know is that Allah the moon god is as fake as they come and that you are a deluded nutcase believing a fake god conjured up by Muhammad.

EzioAuditore:
I have to admit I have waited for one of you to square this verse.

As to your claim about Jesus being the son of God I refer you to the bible because even though we believe it has been adulterated it in no way refers to Jesus as the son of God in a way that makes him worthy of worship.

Psalm 82:6 "I said, 'You are "gods" (Elohim; plural to El); you are all sons of the Most High.' " "gods" here in Hebrew is "Elohim", which is plural of "EL". It is the same exact thing as "EL" used for Jesus in Isaiah 9:6, since "gods" is a combination of several "EL"s. And as clearly shown here, for someone to be called "god" or "God" in the Bible it wouldn't make him GOD Almighty Himself, the LORD or Jehovah. I also want to point out that any "Son of GOD" in the Bible is a "god" or "God".

Also, let us look at John 3:16 "For God loved the world so much that he gave his only begotten Son, in order that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life." Ironically, Trinitarians from my personal experience with them rely on this verse (John 3:16) very heavily when trying to prove that Allah or Jehovah came down to earth to die for our sins. They claim that Jesus being God's unique son, makes him the only Son for God, which ultimately lead us to the conclusion that Jehovah is Jesus.

Also, let us look at Hebrews 11:17 "By faith Abraham, when God tested him, offered Isaac as a sacrifice. He who had received the promises was about to sacrifice his one and only son...." Abraham had two sons: Ishmael and Isaac. Ishmael was 13 years older than Isaac. Yet we see that "his one and only son" expression was used for Isaac. The Bible uses expressions like this to magnify people or to glorify someone on a certain occasion. The Bible in this verse glorifies Isaac for being the chosen sacrifice to God, according to what the Jews and Christians claim in their corrupted Bible. So Jesus being God's "only begotten Son" in John 3:16 doesn't make him God nor the only Son of God.

Psalm 2:7 "....Jehovah had said onto me (David), thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee." Here in this verse we see that God not only called David his "Son", but also had made him his begotten Son !!!.

This is Jesus referring to others as son of God.

Mat 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

Mat 6:1 Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven.

Mat 5:16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.

Mat 6:4 That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly.

Mat 6:9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.

Mat 7:11 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?

Mar 11:25 And when ye stand praying, forgive, if ye have ought against any: that your Father also which is in heaven may forgive you your trespasses.

Mar 11:26
But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses.

Luk 6:36 Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful.

You happy to derail the thread. Where is that prophet mentioned in the scriptures which Allah didn't know how they were complied

EzioAuditore:
Silly goose. The bible, Torah and other books you know of are they not in the format of books? Allah is telling people that he is responsible for the true version of those books. Capiche?

The Quran was sent down to a an Arabian who I suspect suffered from fits and seizures after which he would emerge from the bout to claim that he was receiving revelations from the Crescent moon god.
Prove me wrong.

EzioAuditore:
1- If the Gospel is the compilation of Jesus' life, then are you insinuating your God doesn't know the future? Are you insinuating your God doesn't know what he will be sending his messenger with? As for me, my God is all knowing and he knew what jesus was going to preach even before he came, understood?

2- what you don't understand is in islam, the name muslim as given to us by Abraham, anyone who receives the message of God is a Muslim, therefore Muhammad's people only became Muslims after Muhammad came. Understood?

Luke 6:40 (American Standard Version)
40 The disciple is not above his teacher: but every one when he is perfected shall be as his teacher.

The perfection here means a spiritual one. What the verse is saying is that knowledge is not what matters! The teacher or master is higher in knowledge than his student. But the student can be as high as his teacher, or even higher, by being a true 'MUSHLAM' or Muslim, a spiritually perfect and well-disciplined person!
"Ein talmeed na'leh 'al rabbo; shekken kal adam she'MUSHLAM yihyeh k'rabbo."

3- No messengers were sent to Muhammad's people before. You must understand:

A. Where in the Quran does it state that Ishmael was a messenger to the prophet Muhammad's people or their fathers? The verses before Quran 6:89 state that these people were chosen and given the message and were prophets. but where does it state that Ishmael was a prophet to prophet Muhammad's people or their ancestors?

B. Secondly I believe you are stuck in the delusion that Ishmael was somehow the direct ancestor of the people of Muhammad. Muhammad's people (whenever they settled) were not mentioned to be descended from Ishamael. You believe that ONLY though tradition. This is why Quranists are immune to all Islamic criticisms. The people of Muhammad could have existed before jews for all you know. All in all, nowhere in the Qur’an does it state that Ishmael is the progenitor of the Arab race.

4- the Arabs were pagans and irreligious before Muhammad, understood? They did not worship Allah.

I quote the injeel. John 3:16

For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten son so that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life.


Is this verse corrupted?

EzioAuditore:
Can someone explain to me what he is trying to say, I have tried but I can't understand his point.

Allah the all knowing thinks the gospel or rather the first four books were sent down as a book.
Allah is wrong ad I explained.
If Allah thinks even the Torah and the psalms were sent as a book and Allah is again wrong. How then can one believe his prophet was mentioned in the early scriptures?

EzioAuditore:
Ignorance is a disease! Do you think the Quran was sent as a book? Verses of the Quran were compiled into a book by the prophets companions. Its the laws that were sent that makes it a book and not paper.

If Allah thinks injeel was sent as a book how would he know what is in the injeel in the first case. Allah does not know how the Bible was compiled even claiming

nd in their footsteps We sent Jesus the son
of Mary , confirming the Law that had come
before him: We sent him the Gospel: therein
was guidance and light, and confirmation of
the Law that had come before him: a
guidance and an admonition to those who
fear Allah.
—Quran, sura 5 ( Al-Ma'ida ), ayah 46 [4]

Allah wrong.
Then how can we find his favourite prophet in the other books that Allah thinks were sent down eg the Torah or zabur (psalms)

See, while Allah was revealing his revelations to the prophet Allah also thought that the injeel was revealed to Jesus in the form of a book.
Allah was wrong. The gospel was written by close companions of Jesus based on their interactions with him.
The injeel was not a book sent down .
It was the disciples narrative's of their eye witness testimony on the life of Jesus.
Allah took at least 22 years to send the Quran to his prophet. 22 years to send a book
Need I say more?