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KnowAll:
PDP - Hausa / Fulani - President

Nupe - Vice President

Senate President - Tiv


AC - might up for - Kanuri - President

Igala - Vice President

Hausa / Fulani - Senate President


ANPGG - Tiv - President

Yoruba - Vice President

Senate President - Hausa / Fulani


Primaries will be conducted in each party to choose the right guys for each of those Jobs.[/color]

i guess other ethnic groups like the jukun or nupe do not exist.

wirinet:
25th of December had been celebrated for centuries before Christ in many European and eastern societies to commemorate the birth of the sun god. it was the day the sun is said to be reborn because the winter solstice is on December 24, that is when the sun stops dying (day stops getting shorter), and start its rebirth. So celebration starts on eve of 24th till the night of 25th, with wild jubilation, involving drinking, dancing and general merry making,

When Rome adopted Christianity, it incorporated most of its former rituals and celebrations into the new religion. which includes the worship and veneration of Venus and son Eros, as Infant Jesus and Mary, the adoption of patron saints from their past worship of numerous personal gods, and a host of others.

As the celebration of Christmas, spread through Norther Europe it acquired many other cultural practices, like Santa from the Nordic culture and Holly and mistletoe trees from England(not sure here). But the practice is still primary drinking, dancing and merrymaking as originally practiced by the Pagan Romans.

interesting

JeSoul:
Lol . . . he's about 11 months too late  . Republicans will not side with him no matter what he does. That's politics.
When 2011 comes around I am willing to bet the story will not be much different from what it is now.

well he is trying to please republicans cuz he needs some votes for the healthcare bill.

I don't see them sticking with that withdrawal timeline except they can turn the afghan army into some fighting machine in a matter of 2 years.

lol the politics section and it's drama with mods

tiger obviously has a thing for white girls.

He should be careful next time though.

biina:
and you are overrating the saints.

You cant judge the Saints (or any team) by one game. While they looked very good against the Pats, they are not that good. In fact, nobody is that good.
The Saints merely exploited a flaw in NE coverage. Colston admitted this much post game, saying that they saw somethings on tape and decided to go after them. Belichick also confirmed that the problems they had were correctable.
If the above is true, I actually feel that Sean Payton made a mistake by playing his ace too early. You can be guaranteed that if they meet again in SB, those flaws in the Pats D will no longer be there and Belichick will come with 1 or 2 aces of his own (particularly against a saints team that loves to substitute on both offence and defence). They should have first tried to win without cashing in their joker, and then possibly used it as a last resort. There is more than one reason the Pats won 3 SB rings in 4yrs.

Example, in 2004, the Pats lost to the steelers 20-34 in the regular season, with Pittsburgh basically man handling them in the first qtr (21-3). Come the post season, and the Pats simply ran them over 41-27. The Pats went on to win the super bowl. The Saints may have just exchanged a SB for an unbeaten regular season.

why didn't the pats adjust in the 2nd half? Isn't that what bellicheat is known to do?

This is not the same Pats D that won 3 superbowls in 4 years. Rodney Harrison, junior seau, bruschi, asante samuel and seymour are gone. The flaws that were there early in the season are still there. This pats defense can't be trusted.
We need to get over the patriot mystique. They are a good team but their era of dominance is gone. The pats are a team that can only win by outscoring you. this was obvious when they went for it on 4th down in the 3rd quarter.

The saints don't have the luxury of trying to use their ace. This is a team that has to build confidence especially on defense. They aren't the colts or pats that have a pedigree in the league.

JeSoul:
I wish he would pick one side and stick wholeheartedly with it.

that's risky politics especially with the health care bill coming up. He definitely doesn't want to piss off republicans.


I don't agree with the timetable for withdrawal though.

Deep Sight:
Perhaps i am a Prophet who has been sent to a nation called Nairaland

ha ha

Lady 234:
@ banom
Become a Messianic Jew. Don't go celebrate the Jewish Shabbat on Sunday its Saturday.

what if he becomes a seventh day adventist. is that fine?

You guys are disrespecting the Saints. They are making it to the superbowl

amor4ce:
Considering my lifestyle, N20,000 would be enough. I don draw line between myself and my extended family members. I also keep a low profile. Also, my immediate family members also maintain a peaceful and quiet profile. What with UTC bread, togolese beans, garri ijebu, moin moin, ogi, akara, fufu, amala, egusi, boiled yam, plantain, efo, dundun, blue band, indomie noodles, semovita, mangoes, oranges, agbalumo, baba dudu, for food; local sponge, anchor toothbrush, ose dudu,macleans toothpaste for hygiene (no need for "toilet roll" when water still plenty); hurricane lamp and torch light, kilit insecticide and otapiapia (PHCN); N500 polyester shirts for extra clothing; I would still have extra change for danfo runs. Concerning gifts, my folks would not even request for that from me so as not to put me under pressure. Besides, I probably would have been sending them stuff and helping them get stuff beforehand. But I would still bring something to surprise them.
Do not be surprised, I have been called "Baba Ijebu" several times and we are Ijebu.

baba ijebu

lets hope he used a condom this time.

Deep Sight:
What i certainly believe can be ascertained or logically inferred is his/ her/ it's EXISTENCE.

Could you please ascertain the existence of God?

Deep Sight:
Now, from what i see within the universe, i can also infer a few of his/her/ its attributes - in much the same way as we inferred that the creature in the box had the abvility to scratch things. I can easily infer, for example the attributes of great power and intelligence withim that quantity on the left side of my equation.

one problem though, planet earth is only a small portion of the universe so how can you infer the attributes of the creator from such a small portion of it's creations?

What attributes can you infer by the way. do you believe this creator is an interventionist one?

mccloud224:
Al'yal's talking should know that the war in the middle east ain't never gonna stop unless the oil and opium there finishes.It's as simple as that.9/11 was orchestrated by the Bush administration.Troops were already in Afghanistan before the twin tower bombings.

You people should focus more on the calamity that might soon befall this country instead of worrying about the "jihadis".Yar Adua's ill health coupled with the break down of the political structure is a very good opportunity for AFRICOM to set foot on Nigerian soil.You might want to think about that for a sec before you worry about people who live better lives than your country men.

how does the US benefit from opium?

The laws are perfect. A black hole is not commonly observable, it is far fetched. The law of gravity works perfectly.

are you saying black holes don't exist?

If there are many gods one will have to be supreme, not so?

including the hindu or jainism system? I don't see why one god has to be supreme.

Yes, Karma is observable, but that is a rather drawn-out subject. It was on that subject I invited you to forget dogma and carry out your own investigation since only you can convince yourself.

how does one observe karma?

The incomprehensible nature of God should not be a barrier to belief in his existence.

what's to be gain by believing in it if God can't be comprehended. Isn't an attempt to comprehend God the reasons dogma's exist.

All being said is that a being created all that exists

but how do we really know this.

biina:
With AP, the vikes can keep Brees and his weapons on the sideline

who says AP won't fumble the ball?

1.saints
2.vikes
3.colts
4.everyone else

Peyton Manning finds ways to mess up in the playoffs so my bet is the superbowl is coming back to the NFC

OgagaLuv, dude is funny.

Fhemmmy:
That is trash.
So if you wanna talk like that, i think we need capital punishment then to check our population . . . . yeye.

Get rid of some of the ridiculous leaders by firing squad and you will see how people will sit up and fast too.

capital punishment is the easy way out.

I would like to see the likes of IBB do hard labor. won't it be beautiful to watch IBB and OBJ cleaning gutters and sweeping streets as part of their prison labor program. rather than waste human lives, use them as cheap labor.

viaro:
Okay, fair enough. No could I.

Lol, bawo. . . this is sci-fi you're conjecturing. Someday, I would like to seriously take up that idea of "popping in an out of existence" with anyone who has some muscle to go the distance in such a discussion. For now, I'll just retire to my work - see ya tomorrow.

KAG discusses it well. It sure is an interesting possibility.

I would like to hear from other deist, where is deepsight. i have question for my joe - what moved you towards deism.

Could you demonstrate those in the highlight?

I can't demonstrate it, only if we go back in time.

I don't know how the virtual particle demonstrates that something came out of nothing on its own. Care to elucidate?

Virtual particles pop in and out of existence while violating E = mc^2 (temporarily).  They even appear in a vacuum that are supposedly empty and inert.  Who is to say matter wasn't created in such a manner?  Maybe they universe came out nothingness (that would make a good sci-fi movie).

naijababe:
The answer you will get for is my personal opinion and may differ from one deist to another.
I don't believe very much in the concept of the afterlife as peddled by organized religion. As far as I am concerned, I am here now and I live for this life.

me either. we can only guess whats out there.  We are probably just gonna be dust and future construction material or manure 

viaro:
There are - several of them. However, one ready example is what is commonly (and collectively) called Polydeism.

[list]Polydeism (from Greek πολύς ( 'poly' ), meaning 'many', and Latin deus meaning God) is a polytheistic form of Deism encompassing the belief that the universe was the collective creation of multiple Gods, each of whom created a piece of the universe and then ceased to interact with the universe. This concept addresses an apparent contradiction in Deism - that a monotheistic God created the universe, but now expresses no apparent interest in it - by supposing that if the universe is the construct of many gods, none of them would have an interest in the universe as a whole.[/list]
[list]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polydeism[/list]

thanks a lot viaro.  Good to see some variety in deism. 

naijababe:
@ Bawolomo
Let me attempt to answer some of your questions to the best of my abilitiyIt seems to me that the problem here for you is the word "God" , the point is something cannot come out of nothing. If you prefer call it something else.

well can't it be argued something has always existed? that matter didn't need to be created.

you should read up on this.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_particle
i'm obviously no physicists but who says something can't come out of nothing.   Of course it can be argued a supernatural force is responsible for the actions of this particles.

I agreeKarma is being used here loosely, I believe Joe is talking about what you can refer to as reward not in the afterlife but in this life for one's actions

Oh that's interesting, what's the deist concept of the afterlife. Maybe deepsight can drop in on this

He/she, doesn't  really matter. Refer to God as it if that pleases you.

I agree. A God this "strong" shouldn't be limited based on gender.

JeSoul:
A very unfortunate development. My brother is part of the army, fortunately not with the marines but still, I feel as though someday I may get a phonecall bearing the worst possible news.

Why is it an unfortunate development? More troops are needed in Afghanistan until Afghan security forces are properly trained. We should have focused on Afghanistan rather than disturbing Saddam and his sons.

i feel for members of the army but they get those juicy benefits for a reason, to serve.

We have so many Technologies that need to be developed

-Rainmaking
-ThunderStorming

let me add some more

earthquaking

Tsunamining

cycloning

indigenous lightening.

That force created the universe and everything in it. And It then abandoned it? No. It did something logical – put perfect laws in place to govern it. You know the laws described in physics and the perfection with which they work.

i have a few questions, How did this "force" become God? Are these laws really perfect? who says the laws of conservation of energy can't be violated in a dark hole?

the more it appears atheism is a repudiation of the designer God merchandised by contemporary popular Christianity or the choleric warlord sponsored by the other Abrahamic creeds.

there are atheists from Hindu, Sikh and buddhist households. The last time i checked, those weren't Abraham creeds. Atheists come from different backgrounds.

Those laws are encapsulated in a system called Karma

how does one know Karma exists, is it observable? karma is an hindu philosophy, so are you hindu or deist (do deists borrow from Hinduism now?)

But nothing I can say here can convince you, as I am not better equipped than you are.

that's true.

The true nature, colour or essence of this God is unfathomable and unapproachable. But he exists all the same.

if the nature of God is unfathomable, how do you know its a "he". We don't know it's True nature right?

why is there is only creator God? can't there be more?

Besides these, do I have any evidence that God exists? Have I ever heard his voice? No. No one has.

so you are making the assumption that the earth is proof God exists? The concept of intelligent design has being discarded by the way.

its safe to say deism isn't free of assumptions that are made in atheism or theism. Deism is an attempt to reason a God in which you have admitted is unfathomable and unapproachable. Seems like a futile attempt to even think about such God. Deism also seems trapped by the concept of monotheism found in Abrahamic creeds. Why aren't there polytheist philosophies among Deists?

banom:
Bawomolo you are correct , but the point is that i said i needn't Christianity when i was an atheist, after careful rethink i decided to go back to christianity because that is the religion i was born into and i am more comfortable with it than trying a new other one.

But why not try other new religions? you were bold enough to try atheism right? It just seems you are pigeon-holing your self into a comfort zone. I'd say explore other religions and see what satisfies you.

posakosa:
BRA NOM to be honest--- this sounds like a joke---

that would be one silly joke

davidylan:
Frankly you're pretty much a sideshow on this board.

Go on. tell us how you really feel

davidylan:
dont abuse the word "engage" pls. Reserve it for more cerebral atheists, not you.

Aren't we all inferior in the presence of Davidylan PHD

davidylan:
you "support" the deletion of the islamic section but not once have we seen you fools set up threads on the islamic section throwing your vile insults at allah.

look at my post history before arguing blindly.

If by "insults" you mean a factual assessment of your post then so be it.

Yeah the claim that atheists are focused on the God of the bible is factual? classic david. You are always right.