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patriot2: I know for a fact that muslims see the jews and christians as second class human beings and they see polytheists as criminals who deserve the death sentence, and what do they think about atheists?: less than human.
But I guess you would argue that it is their religion and they are entitled to that.
but what if I was a follower of Bugs Bunny for example and that my religion required me to poo on qurans which i would do because it is not harmful to anybody. Should a muslim who is aware of my faith cut my head off ?
I ask you this question because you seem to be able to justify the unjustifiable by the word "faith".

Please let us not put words in each others mouths and make false claims about others justifying the unjustifiable. I have simply said that it is wrong to tar whole sections of society with the same brush, regardless of how despicable boko haram might be.
If your hypothetical Bugs Bunny religion demands that you poo on a Quran, then it would quite clearly be banned and its followers given the treatment of the Branch Davidians (or boko haram, nearer home).

Boko haram is no excuse for prejudice against Muslims.

patriot2: So according to you killing people and pooing on a quran are the same.
So you see the killing of a human being for desacrating a quran ( a mere book ) as just.
I am wondering where I draw the line between you and the terrorists, because if you are ready to kill people for a mere book which doesn't belong to you, wasn't written by you and of which there is more than a billion exemplars, then I wonder if you wouldn't just be the same. People you have to learn this islam is less important than life.
Islam is less sacred than life!

Dude, it never helps to paint segments of society with a general brush.
Boko haram is a terrorist group supported by many, but that does not make every Muslim a boko haram member. That is where you are wrong.

I do not know if you are religious (I am not), if you are you would know how dearly many hold their faith. That knowledge would make you refrain from making inflamatory statements about any religion or its followers.

KINGwax: by every means, you are a terrorist!

Give the dude a break, he already said its good for the boko haram. Perhaps he was offended by the wrongful reference to the Quran. We aught to be more careful with references to other peoples lawful religious beliefs.

[quote author=Mynd_44]Very true. I school in Ekiti and at the last count about three Hausas were hacked to death while others sustained varying amount of cut wounds from cutlass.
I was told the fight started over the death of an Okada rider who was Hausa and died as a result of s struggle between him and some members of the Okada union his kinsmen tried to retaliate and hell was let loosed[/quote]Well done. Next time, they won't try to "retaliate" like the place is a jungle where they can behave as they like.
I am sure the lesson will sink in. Never act like "owner" in another mans backyard.

noiseless: Niger deltan should be more serious in trying to breakaway from this aschwitz of a country than talking about offshore onshore derivation, that is where they will win better,and when that is done we will see if the northerners will turn to a wizard to sip off the oil in the atlantic without being some sort of lunch to the ocean fish to grow bigger.

Damn right.

[quote author=alex_101]Buyayaha These lazy northern parasites never cease to amaze me when it comes to free OIL money. These clowns will always turn logic upside downn. I believe if the north gets back power, then this issue of 13% derivation will be overturned, as they already have a majority in the legislator due to their fake population figures,,,,,I guess it's their gift for convincing the rest of southern nigeria into accepting the "one-nigerian" slogan back in 1967.

Then again, what is right is right, and what is wrong is wrong. If the oil were to be located up north in the chad basin, we all know what the outcome would have been and we will not be having this conversation. This issue will not go away as long as the dungeon called nigeria remains. The north sees the control of oil resources in the ND thesame way they see the control of nigeria as their birth right . May those with the best arguement win .[/quote]Yeah, they are masters of the awuf train. They not only want to claim everything, but want to assert themselves as owners of other peoples lands too.
Da infamous is reporting on another thread that today, there has been fighting in Ado Ekiti between indigenes and Fulani's:

https://www.nairaland.com/897535/b-r-e-k-n#10439570

bittyend: The so-called "tribalism" in Nigeria is overrated! Why do we care about what outsiders think about us? - as long as this country is together - we're all Nigerians. The "tribal" thing is not only a Nigerian thing - it happens in every heterogeneous country around the world. In the UK, there is rivalry between the Irish, Welsh, Scots, English, Protestants and Catholic - even Northerners, Midlanders, Scousers, and Southerners do the same thing all the time.

I troll on NL most times and bash Igbos and Hausas - but in the real world - I jam with Igbos all the time; eat Igbo food at my boy's yard; and I link loads of Igbos girls. You lot need to stop moaning - and stop taking things to heart. Nigerians are NOT savages - we're CIVILIZED people, period. Since, there has never been a Southern Nigerian serial killer - targeting people based on their tribe - then, you lot are blowing things out of proportion here. Take a chill pill; drink some water; and laugh more.

This guy is a fool. You have never been to Nigeria as can be gathered from your posts, yet you know what is happening here?
Dude, get a ticket and fly down to locate your fathers village, that is where your heritage is, not in Brixton or Peckam.

While you have laughs with bigotry, it affects many real people and many lives. Your foolish words might even claim a life.

If you are suffering from low self-esteem or disconnection from your kindred, then the answer is to see a shrink, instead of spreading hatred.

adino: T.A. Orji is far better than Osun Aregbesola by million miles.

Word.
That guy is like someone who used to work for NURTW. Slapping women everywhere and telling lies non-stop.

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[quote author=ndu_chucks]@Deep_Sight, I've told you befor to stop giving literal interpretations to constitutional provisions, that is the lazy way out.. If it were that simple, we wouldn't need the supreme court for any interpretation.

If we are to take your interpretion on its face value, then the concept of state boundaries will be useless as far as coastal states are concerned, for example. You see how ridiculous your interpretation is? I can assure you that the supreme court will not use your narrow interpretation.[/quote]State boundaries?
Olodo. What has that got to do with the argument at hand?
In case you don't know, marine boundaries are decided by international principles.

By the way, I wanna claim the airspace above Sokoto, Kano, Jigawa, Borno, Kebbi, Zamfara and any other place where unu de. Deal?

oiseworld: i taya ohh bro. am surprised it has gotten to this. You can't seperate the sea from the states. Abi how i go talk am self? They bear the bad of the sea not the notherners. Loot at the tsunamies and tonadoes oil spillage and so on that take place in the sea and its coastal cities, nobody is talking about that. but with oil matter people from very distance region say na their own. Too bad. If gold is found in the desert up north where nobody lives them go say na their own. They even rear cattles from state to state soooootay fulani say na them get land.

As long as nigeria through delta,bayelsa,rivers extend over 200 meters into the sea, then those states own the sea and its resources.

Word.

I said earlier that maybe we should begin to lay claim to the atmosphere and solar insolation above the core-North as belonging to the FG and lets see how they feel about it.

[quote author=eku_bear]Realchange, I am not sure if you are arguing against fairness and logic is because you think it is beneficial to your own state to do so.

So let us set aside what is right, fair, and logical temporarily and discuss na[b]k[/b]ed self-interest.

Given that you are an Igboman and the interest of at least one majority Igbo state (Rivers) is in both onshore AND offshore resource control, I am not sure it is in the best interest of your people to be against it.

My own "self-interest" calculus is:
a) supporting offshore hurts me and my state slightly
b) but is of massive, massive benefit to my people (Yoruba) as a whole. Like, who knows what will be found offshore over the next 20-30 years? Signing away that is exactly what Esau did.

I imagine that the self-interest calculus of any Igbo who thinks about it for more than 3 minutes will be similar (again, assuming that they are interested in maximizing the benefit of their people as a whole rather than just their own particular state.)[/quote]Lagos and Ondo already have commercial quantities of offshore oil, so your nake'd self interestr bears reason..

[quote author=eku_bear]Well, maybe the new argument will be that Nigeria's coastal waters are part of Gombe State, not the coastal states.

Devilish minds can always come up with new arguments for why down is up and up is down...[/quote]Lol! Imagine Ogun or Delta states laying claim to the atmosphere or solar insolation above Sokoto, claiming it all belongs to the FG!

[quote author=eku_bear]Are you sure of this?

I thought it was only the state governments that can give title to land, not FGs.

There was controversy earlier in my state about where the university would be sited...my understanding of that situation was that it is only the governor who can sign off on the land. Not the FG.[/quote]That is correct (except for the petroleum act).

Deep Sight: I reproduce below Section 2 of the Constitution of Nigeria -

2. (1) Nigeria is one indivisible and indissoluble sovereign state to be known by the name of the Federal Republic of Nigeria.

(2) Nigeria shall be a Federation CONSISTING OF States and a Federal Capital Territory.

As such, every part of Nigeria is either in a state or the FCT.

That is the law.

With this quote, the thread ends and Deep Sight is hereby elevated to the status of a god.

@PhysicsQED
Ayam still waiting for proof of your lies. Where is the proof na?
Or are you just a lying scumbag?

Deep Sight: Actually, under the Constitution of the Federal Republic, Nigeria is stated to consist of 36 states and the Federal Capital Territory.

Accordingly, constitutionally, there is no part of Nigeria (land or sea) that is not either in a state or in the FCT.

That, gentlemen, is the law of the land.

Beautiful! Beautiful!! Beautiful!!!

Standing5: @beaf, u claimed the ss/se are brothers joined by the hips, but u and i know better than that. In the so called 'one ND/SE' why that some communities are given job quota by oil company and other are left to suffer. Most of the arguments put forward in the OP are valid ones. All these alliance on the pages of NL are sign of the insecurity u guys feel.

I don't see the point you are trying to make, bro. You are muddling many things together.
As for your stuff about some communities being given oil quota's, that is just internal justling, all communities are catered for.
Regardless of any internal justling, I do not see how a man from the core-North can claim what is in our abutting ocean. It is an extremely dangerous train of thought that has much wider impacts than oil and much wider scope than the immediate areas affected in the ND and SW. Let none be caught unawares.

noiseless: @emmtok, you are real and confused giant bigot here with no base for stance and you know it,today you are from southwest the next day you turn jos man,another you become benue, people like you only exist only on this naira-sharialand. Too fake to even exist as a real person.

Thats how you know them, the ndu chukses and alj harams of NL; oozing out of their squalid holes to spread ethnic hate. All for their love of awuf.

afam4eva: The truth is: Igbos really don't have any business with non-Igbos westwards of them. When Igbos use the SS/SE alliance, they're usually referring to the old eastern region which included, Rivers, bayelsa, Akwa-Ibom and Cross rivers state and not in anyway referring to Edo and delta states. Even the SS is an epic fail because south-southerners from the old eastern region do not have anything in common with Edo and Delta politically because unlike the old eastern region non-igbos who would align with the Igbos, the western SS will always align with the south-west.

Lol! You and the likes of Dede are well known for hating everything about the SS. The place is littered with a thousand and one anti-Ijaw threads and posts from you, putting a lie to whatever definition you claim to be making.
These things make your views quite worthless. Your sentimental approach has zero political currency.

Interesting reading.
Do you know if Massa will be using a different chassis due to upgrades or to the damage his current one suffered?

careytommy: These are the southern eqiivalent of northern almajiris

Exactly. We have the same problems with religion, our only saving grace is education.
Imagine fools given 10% tithe to pastors while the pastors bed their wives and biologically father their kids.

No wise person would have anything to do with an over-religious person.

oiseworld: General beaf,
Wetin na, oboy you surprise me, by now you should have known some nairalanders are on the seach of beaf, to oppose any comment you make no matter how sensible or reasonable it sounds. Just IGNORE THEM. Them are seeking attention.

Thanks for the kind words.
I understand the games the bigots are playing and why they mark out certain people to target.

[quote author=Ileke-IdI]Dude, I'm just posting what has been observed by me and many others. If you think this explanation justifies your actions, no problem.

It's too early for scattering of laughs o [/quote]I really loved FL Gators. Would even have dated her or gone further, so witty, level and straightforward with beauty as a bonus. What happened to her?

You have changed so much, its a 360 degree thing. I recall trying to persuade you not to take that path in response to ugly creatures like mekusx, see where it has got you? Every little statement or gesture is now interpreted as an ethnic slight, to the extent that somewhere on this page, you even questioned my use of Yoruba words. Outside mine, there are two languages whose sound I really love; those languages are Itsekiri first and Yoruba next, I don't see what sort of blackmail would stop me from using them (unfortunately, my spoken Itsekiri is not too good . It is a truly sonorous language).

You really need to change or you will keep "observing" threats in harmless shadows.

patriot2: guess again, you clearly stated that you were a NDeltan, and now you say you are not.
Funny!

Lol! Dude, go over the two behaviours I mentioned mark out boko haram members on NL (on the other thread), and you will recognise the game demdem is playing.

PhysicsQED: Beaf,

I'm not interested in going back and forth with a robot.

When someone uses the phrase "drunken fisherman" without mentioning the name of a specific ethnic group or state, you scream bigotry, even when they don't state a group that they could be bigoted against explicitly.

But when someone says to someone "your states "other source of income" is from the export of your women to Italy (underage and overage, young and old, unmarried and married)" it's not bigotry.

You obviously have your own interpretation. But I disagree with you completely and don't intend to change my opinion or interpretation anytime soon because I know what I read.

I have no more time to waste on this, so don't expect another response from me on this particular disagreement.

Dude, I really think you have been sniffing cocaine.
There is no point asking you to provide evidence of the bolded, because the liar that you are will fail to provide proof of your lies.
It is a pity what you have become. [size=21pt]Lying is next to stealing.
PhysicsQED, why are you telling lies?[/size]

I am still waiting for proof about the lie you told. Where is the bigotted post against Edo people? Where is it PhysicsQED?
What is prompting you to lie like this?

PhysicsQED: @ Beaf

Keep deceiving yourself.

That poster, for no reason, made it a point to attack Bayelsans.

You responded, and in the course of doing so, made statements that could only be interpreted in the exact same way that you interpret the frequent "drunken fishermen" statements.

Even a hat wearing monkey can understand what was written there, so consider me whatever you like. I know what I've read. I don't need to see 10cirenoh actually type the word "Ijaw" before I would interpret what he posted as bigotry, nor do I need to see you type the name of the specific group before I take issue with the statements.

Stop staggering and stammering like a crazed wildebeest on drugs and show me even a single bigotted statement I have made against Edo state.
If you cannot do that, you will be forever consigned to the heap of lying scumbags.
[size=21pt]PhysicsQED, why are you telling lies?[/size]
I wonder if you are on drugs today. Or is it just jealousy of some sort?

dayokanu: Kudos to PhysicsQED
Let Onlylies and beaf continue with their delusion and ally Edo, Itsekiri etc with SE. That would only work on the pages of Nairaland though

Lol! Jealousy will kill you.
Face your front.

PhysicsQED: I said that you had, on more than one occasion, made statements against a specific group from Edo state.

I don't know if you have problems with basic reading comprehension, or if you're trying to worm your way out of this, but I know for a fact what I stated earlier.

And if you take offense to the "drunken fishermen" comments and interpret them as bigotry in multiple threads in this forum, I am at a complete loss as to how you could interpret those statements of yours that I quoted as anything else.


As for jealousy, I have no reason to be jealous of you.

Once again, what's your issue? What's provoking you?

Provide proof, otherwise you are just small-minded lying scum. [size=21pt]Why is it so hard to provide proof na? Is it because you are LYING?[/size]

@the clown called PhysicsQED, this is the link to the post that I responded to with the link you posted:

10cirenoh:
See this foool, which state is feeding from your useless state? is your state not getting allocations? are they not getting more than most of the states in Nigeria? with a population of just 2million, what has your leaders (yes those hat wearing monkies who think they can be mistaken for a cowboy in texas ) what are they doing with their allocation? charity starts from home, what are you governors doing with all your allocation? LOOT AND THEN DRESS LIKE A WOMAN? loot using your wife as the handbag or what exactly?

You guys are just damn lazy and even if the oil is left to your people, you would end up killing eachother out of greed to the extent that no one's going to be able to live in that part of the country.

Yeye lazy azz,

See, Lagos survived without federal allocation for a while, but can your Bayelsa survive without one? My state is deriving another means of sourcing income and they're copying from the best hands in Nigeria.

https://www.nairaland.com/602652/bayelsa-tops-nigeria-unemployment-chart/2#7712104

I don't know if you see yourself as a hat wearing monkey or whatever. I don't see what the post above has to do with Edo state either; so the question remains: [size=21pt]PhysicsQED, why are you telling lies?[/size]

PhysicsQED: @ Beaf, was this purely political?

https://www.nairaland.com/602652/bayelsa-tops-nigeria-unemployment-chart/2#7722585

I can't find the second statement right now, but I specifically remember there being two statements from you on Edo, which is why I was stunned that you were even commenting on that "Myth or Reality: Yoruba is closer to the Edos culturally than the East" thread.

Like I said, I don't know what your issue is exactly.

[size=14pt]Where is the bigotted post against Edo state or are you just a small-minded liar?
I will ask again, is this jealousy of some sort?[/size]

Because of the way you are lying here, I am beginning to wonder if you are not one of the pathetic losers that signs on to make bigotted statements. I shudder to the bones when I click on the link you provided and see what you where defending.

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patriot2: I hardly see why you people always have to talk about MEND every time. The big problem today is boko haram, not MEND. And please tell me when MEND was targeting muslims and northerners ?
You should also understand that southerners want the head of boko haram because boko haram said it was going to annihilate southerners in the north. I can't understand why you people would keep talking about MEND, christians in the north are fighting for survival.

That is the way you can identify the boko harams on NL.
Practically every core-Northern elite is a supporter of boko haram. Another signature behaviour that there are many of them on NL posing as Southerners to cause ethnic dissent.

Note those two signature behaviours I have mentioned, because they are signature behaviours of boko haram members.

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Demdem: Let all ignoramus read the above red bolded lines.
Its amazing that some still think Buhari sponsors Boko Haram. i dont blame them, they have simply digested too much of Beaf's numerous lies.

I know you wanna be me.

I wonder why Beaf is always your problem when it comes to Nigerian issues? You love and admire boko haram and rejoice each time an innocent life is taken, because you are so twisted by ethnic bigotry and ethnic hatred for the President. Dude, your ethnic bigotry has so afflicted you with an intellectual squint and logical leprosy that all you see 24/7 is Beaf; cos I'm so logically smooth, intellectually agile and verbally acrobatic that I snatch your girlfriend and leave you in tears. I deliver punches that meet fools like you square between the eyes, it like a dose of elephant shot that can make Lucifer drop.

What new ideas do we have from a boko haram luv'n shiit fountain like you, sir?

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PhysicsQED: I did not tell him where he should be aligned, unless you have difficulty reading. It is getting annoying correcting these kind of slip ups.

The fact is that Beaf has no right to speak for any group other than his own.

I have read multiple bigoted statements from Beaf against a particular group from Edo state, which is why I am particularly annoyed when he gives people the false impression that anything he says has any validity with respect to Edo state. I don't know what his issue is with Edo state, but he should not ever give people the impression that the "SS" as a whole (which includes Edo) automatically agrees with whatever stuff he makes up and posts on this forum.

Is this jealousy or something?

If you are not a lying coward, give proof to the claim you have just made.
If you cannot do that, then carry the brand of lying scum who is in the same category as alj harem.

I really hate liars.