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jason123:
Dapo, its a lot more complex than that. You are looking at it from the ethnic lens and it should not be so. Ijaws and Ilajes produce 25% and 10% respectively in delta state but more on that later. You see, Delta state is not about "make I favour my people" because your "people" alone did not get you there. Ijaws en-mass voted for Uduagan also, among other ethnic groups.

Tell him bro, he has his beady eye glued on oil.

jason123:
FROM AN UHROBO WEBSITE

https://www.waado.org/images/_363876_nigeria_ethnic150.gif

I wouldn't worry about a map that lacks detail like the above.

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=798719.msg9510296#msg9510296 date=1320802117]Beaf, I don't think that is a big deal. Even if your map is accurate, what can the distance be? 30 miles?

Just buy/lease a 30 mile strip of road to connect the two regions. Costs a few million a year or something.

Alaska doesn't border the lower 49, Russia has a territory in mainland Europe (bordering Germany or Poland or something), etc.[/quote]The big problem is that you cannot slice Urhobo territory, same goes with Ijaw.
Above all, as long as there are rich oil and gas reserves that will border on national security, the idea is a complete non-starter.

By the way, the distance is more than 30 miles and the only possible overland route is through Benin and through vast stretches of Urhobo land. The prospect is quite far-fetched really.

I have edited my earlier post and added a map.

PointB:
^^^
No so fast, ekt_bear. The last time checked, not availability of contiguous land between Itsekiri and SW presented a major challenge. How were you able to overcome this? I think he will be better off in his Bendel state. Lol.

Anyway, I have no problem with Itsekiri, Kwara and Kogi joining their brethren in the SW. Cultural identity will prevail over threat and terror in the final analysis.

Maybe na magic dem go use connect parts of Warri, all of Koko, and parts of Sapele to Ondo state. Na winsh?
lol!

If we split, it would be best for the whole of the Middle Belt and South to stick together. But if the SW leadership continues to plot a separate identity and direction that's different to the rest of the South and umbilically connected to the core-North, then we're cool with MB/SE/SS. If the MB wants its own country, that's understandable and we'll be cool with natural allies in the SE.
If non of the above work, then its the old Bendel as Jason123 is suggesting, right now I only see SE/SS though.

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coogar:
when God was distributing intelligence, you were on a leave of absence.
in the punditry of hard currency, your intelligence has to be lower than the zimbabwean dollar and it's no exaggeration.
how can one be so ridiculously daft not to know his left from right?

[size=14pt]no one ever called for prime ministers' resignation because terrorism was the only issue[/size] the united kingdom were dealing with then. nigeria today is dealing with electricity, unemployment, oil subsidy, bribery and corruption, high wave of crime, and hundreds of other issues. nigeria is going backwards under jonathan and you have the gall to say someone has no intelligence quotient? are you aware yours is in the negative integer?

if i have constant power, good job, affordable fuel price, a working system and a crime rate that is lower than 5%, i would be confident in the government to deal with boko haram. one bad apple wouldn't spoil the whole bunch. but in a situation where basic things are lacking, nigerians should kick out jonathan. he's shown he's not competent to run a family compound, let alone run a country.

Isn't it strange how you first implied that the British would ask their Prime Minister to resign if the IRA events occurred today (like their political maturity has gone out of fashion or something)? Now, you are stepping on your own tongue and claiming that the British didn't demand their Prime Ministers resignation, because the only problem they had was the IRA. Lol!
You make it up as you go don't you?

The IRA has been with the British since 1919 with the Irish War of Independence, and since then, Britain has seen several ups and downs; the Great Depression, coal miners strikes of 84-85, the 1974 strike, the recession of the early 80's that saw a great portion of people lose their houses, the two World Wars etc. Yet, they never voiced that their leader resign, even when the IRA attempted bombing downing street and killing the whole cabinet.

Dude, its much easier for your type to make things up and talk stup!dly, cos all you have to do is open your gob and let the ooze drain out. Perhaps, you've only said these things in a desperate bid not to be seen as either unrefined, a traitor, coward, or a bigot; but you really haven't helped yourself, because you really have to be unrefined, a traitor, coward, or a bigot to ask your President to resign in the face of boko haram.

Great Depression: the bleakness of Black Thursday
April 14 2008: Stocks crashed, jobs were lost and people starved as the Great Depression took hold in the 1930s

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/gallery/2008/apr/14/economics.photography

Yeah, the IRA existed then too, but the British never asked their Prime Minister to resign. That sort of cowardly demand is for the unrefined.

I have used google to search the Heute website and can't even find a single reference to Allison Madueke or "Allison-Madueke" as it is written in the picture below.

You can check for yourself:
http://www.google.com/search?q=maduake+site%3Aheute.at

Why do Nigerians lie so much?

If you look closely at the image, you can see it is photoshopped. The headline is almost on top of the newspaper logo and looks to be floating, cos its at the wrong angle and has the wrong perspective distortion. Na wa for desperation!
Why all the desperate lies?

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[quote author=Desola ]You are funny, Beaf. Althoughh I believe that you are the devil's re-incarnate, I delight in your retorts sometimes but on this occasion, your response fell totally flat - it was deflated before arrival.

You asked why I concern myself with the future of the north and I wondered if for someone propagating a NL alliance of SS/se, you actually lack in the area of communication as if not so, you would not be so blind to see that your houseboy 'pointb' is actually the worried one.  
However to answer your. Simplistic question, I would say that my concern of the north is that of maintaining future trade relations because their agricultural prowess is second to none as it is currently been proven in Nigeria.[/quote]You didn't delight in my retort today, because I got so carried away that I didn't tell how much I love you, never forget that. Please accept my cyber token below, troublesome as you are, I mean it.
For your info, PointB and all intelligent NLer's are my masters, please never forget that also.

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With that cleared, I would dearly love to know where you got the idea about the core-Norths "agricultural prowess."
To my layman's eye, there is only evidence of decay, lost groundnut pyramids, forgotten cotton plantations; this aside the sad fact that most of our agricultural produce actually comes from the Middle Belt states of Benue, Plateau, Taraba and Adamawa. Goats and sheep are predominantly imported from Niger.
Please could you unlock the mystery of the core-Norths "agricultural prowess?" I am willing to learn.

Corruption must not be countenanced in any form, but what I find curious is that I cannot find a single link to the so called news article. Not even typing "20 millionen villa in wen" into google produces anything. Did this "news" item drop from the outermost reaches of space?

The other thing that bugs me, is that the address of the said property is also secret!

This is just like the refinery in Indonesia story.

Vultures, your attempt is weak.

Nigerians are optimistic because they don't know what they are doing.
We have abandoned the art of critical thinking and embraced sensational emotionalism that religion provides.

The average person cannot be blamed for that state of mind in a country that has failed repeatedly for 51 damn years. In fact we have failed so many times that the average person is too bruised to even correctly identify the source of their problems, talkless of how to resolve them.
All they have left is the imaginary World of religion where there is only hope and "joy." It will take years to pull back from 51 years of constant trauma and restore our thought processes to normal.

coogar:
you must have been born with a di[i]c[/i]k in your brain

that was some 20 yrs ago for bleeps' sake. this is 2011, you jonathan c[i]o[/i]cksuck[i]e[/i]r. at least in britain, when people die the government show care, assist the family of the deceased and some sort of investigation and solutions are being proffered. what has your moronic jonathan done to salvage the situation as we speak.

the dunderhead is more bothered about removing the oil subsidy than fighting the extremists making life unbearable for the citizens of his country and scaring foreign investors shitless. yet, like a troglodyte that you are, you defend this simpleton. why are you such a spaz with little or no nous?
the hardship in nigeria is bad enough without boko haram. adding them into the equation is just damn unbearable for the suffering masses.

comparing this situation to the ira situation when an average briton has a roof over his head, eat 3 square quality meals and he's clothed to the situation in nigeria has already proven you to be a lunatic. a rabid dog that should be put away before it spreads infection in the community.
the next time you open that cesspit you call out to speak to me rudely, i shall reach into that smelly mouth of yours and pull your skeleton out.

what a pubic louse!

You are obviously more interested in sounding like an agbero as well as a cowardly traitor who has been defeated by boko haram. The other alternative is that you are driven by either bigotry or a low IQ.
I gave you the example of the IRA troubling Britain for 86 years, during which time govt changed hands between parties and several attempts were made on Downing street, yet no one ever called for the Prime Ministers resignation; but you answer is that it happened 20 years ago! How daft can daft get?
Do you mean it is modern to be unrefined, a traitor, coward, or a bigot?

Point to a single country where crude cowards like you have thrown up their hands in defeat and asked their leader to resign. Thats a challenge.

namfav:
how did your ancestors survive without the oil? slave trading? where do you think the oil comes from we have many alternatives, i want us to go back to roots, we dont survive from the oil in the ss, not at all, as i said in the case that we have to live on are own we will have to do what we used to do before the this whole thing,  there are alot of friendly nations that will invest in the north, you can go to hell with your cursed oil, oil will never bring prosperity in africa

I think that is what boko haram is doing.

Desola:
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I'm not surprised that you can smell my alleged fear over cyberspace after all your boss was wise enough to clear his nostrils to smell the threat of BH and made a U-turn and celebrated independence in his parlour. I am pleased that your deficiency in economics is quickly compensated for in the ability to smell.

I am all for division, which as a matter of fact, is inevitable. However, I would not for the evil nature of a few northerners, demean them like you and your cohorts have been doing. Would I want Oodua to have relations with Arewa in the eventual separation? Absolutely yes! Why? Because they are a very hard working lot and would be good for business agricultural wise.

Now, tell me if I would want to do business with the ND? Probably not. What would they provide? Fish? No, their rivers are polluted so that leaves us with oil. However, oil as we know is restricted to the control of the elites so they would in the long run not be of any benefit to the ooduites. I wouldn't even bother with the okoros because other than substandard good, they bring absolutely nothing to the table. The boast of manpower and I say we have mor. They boast of movies, and I say we get our own. So what manner of trade would I engage in with this group of people.

After all said and done, the long and short of it is that with agriculture, the north trumps the se/ss put together and would be more viable than you loud mouths!

Thanks to the north, you guys can eat beef instead of eating human flesh as it was/is done in iboland or poisoned fish as in the ND!

The north na una baba anyday!

If you are all for division, why are you making contradictory noises like you are scared of the SE/SS leaving? Why are you so concerned about how the core-North would cope? You are not from any of those regions, yet you are so concerned? You are just a bigotted piece of of slime.
You sound scared, cos you are scared.

^
You sound totally sick and obsessed.
Buhari lost, get over it. It isn't a war.

You have derailled a thread out of your little minded foolishness and you think others haven't things to do? You are an id!ot and a scammer, that is why you hate the idea of the streets rising against corruption. The real reason you are running around is that you have been found out.

Phucking scammer.
[size=33pt]Stop scammers like egift.
Demand zero corruption.[/size]

PointB:
This is not about people trusting the SE or not, by the way trust is not a very popular item in Nigeria market, no one trust the other. So shove your trust down your throat.

The question is how exactly will a Northern enclave be run, without oil money (assuming the SE/SS and their collaborators successful 'steal' the oil).
How will the North live, and what will they do? Thats is the question we need you to answer.

With the current state of cultural attitudes, it is quite clear that it will look like Yemen or Somalia, at best, the bad lands of Western Pakistan. Boko haram will strut the tuff and run things like al shabab; whipping women in the streets and holding summary execution by stoning or bullet on every street corner.

The core-North desperately needs a change of leadership, so that the vast majority of core-Northerners, who are not bad people, can have true representation, purpose and developmental direction.

Desola:
@beaf,

Am I surprised? No-one is wise except they are supporting your treacherous divide and are licking jonasatan's behind, non?

How am I a traitor that I see the truth and not falling for your silly propaganda of "lynch the northerners"?

Just because the Boko Harams have ousted your boss as the incompetent f.o.ol that he is you now want a Southern revolution? If you weren't so dum.b, you wouldn't have come out to declare that the north are leeches. By doing so, you exposed your disabilities in the area of the Nigeria economics. Either that, or you are being your plain evil self who thrives on falsehood.

The north brings more to ordinary Nigerians than the ND oil which only lines the pockets of the elites to which you are a beneficiary! Ole!

You sound so insecure and fearful. Its the ugly sound of a cowardly traitor clinging to a one Nigeria where no one works, but everyone sits back to divide FG money like a parasitic bunch.

Whoever called for a Southern revolution? Me? Lol! It is quite clear that I have called for an SE/SS and Middle Belt collabo to leave an abusive union, when we have left and no longer depend on your "knoledge of economics," then we will know who has lost economically and there wouldn't be any need to conduct research into the definition of "leech," where leeches gather and their natural habitat.

coogar:
i think you should be ashamed of yourself. i will like to see your reaction if you lose your loved ones to boko haram.

You people always post like your arses are in charge of your brains. There is a vast gulf between the emotional tripe you posted up there and the application of intelligence.
In all the 86 years the IRA troubled Britain (including several attempts on Downing street), did you ever hear a Briton demand the resignation of their Prime Minister? You people are unrefined fools at best and cowardly traitors at worst.

The rest of us have not been defeated by boko haram.

Depointer1:
Goodluck Jonathan and Sambo RESIGN

And David Mark takes over? Why not boldly start a campaign for David Mark? I would if I were you.

I really pity the bigots who think that every death from bombs is a political tool. How could humans sink so low?
GEJ is the best for Nigeria, let bigots and traitors knock their heads on the wall.

[quote author=ola_pluto link=topic=797646.msg9503202#msg9503202 date=1320712670]Many BIGOTS here. Yes GEJ is inactive, Yes GEJ looks dull, but how do we expect him to excel if we do not support him? It is very easy to criticise, afterall, we can all see the files on his table. Boko haram issue is not going to be solved until the people stand up for themselves. I am a muslim and it pains me to the bone marrow that these people claim to be for Islam. However, until we all stand up to help the president, we will only wish for better lives. People easily forget this is not military rule where you can do everything gong ho.
BH is well known to be concentrated in Maiduguri/Borno axis. If tomorrow, GEJ sends 3 apache to clear out suspected militant camps, I am pretty sure a thread will be opened to discuss how he is wiping out the Northerners. The situation is very volatile and dicey. Any sensible person will see that this man is not having it easy. It is easy to make sweeping decisions, but it takes an intelligent man to make cautious ones. Today's decisions will be the talk of tomorrow.
I challenge any of those asking GEJ to resign to propose a solution to BH that will go down well with everyone.[/quote]Yes, many bigots are here indeed. Some Nigerians are good screaming like children without making any sense, because they are bigots.
They are screaming about their crazy fantasy of GEJ resigning which seems like a totally unintelligent position for anyone to take; not just unintelligent, but totally implausible as well. . . until you consider bigotry.
Well, the rest of us have not been defeated by boko haram, neither are we traitors to boko haram, nor do we dance a jig each time a bomb takes an innocent life. We stand with our President as true Nigerians.

I am really ashamed at the mental output of many Nigerians.

namfav:
you obviously dont understand when i said compromise who says that the issue of maiduguri is sanctioned by sharia? they are doing it on there own will, the dont represent sharia law or islam, why is it that you ibo guys tend to act ignorant and try to flame people everywhere? compromise as in sharia is not allowing it on non muslims, most nigerians would not want to be next to biafra, compared to the nigerians that would mind living next to us (northerners), people dont trust the se, we are living in a age were we can refer ot history

You always post from a perspective of self pride, never from hard reality.
Boko haram has made it clear that they are fighting for an Islamised Nigeria that is based on sharia, but here you arguing the opposite. Its called self deception.

About not trusting the SE? That is purely a core-Northern thing that arose from the war and it is something that says to the unbiased observer that the SE has been deliberately maligned and subjugated for the benefit of the core-North, a region that has put religious considerstions before humanity and allowed itself be driven into a spiral of ever increasingly shortsighted cultural policies. It takes a certain degree of societal closed mindedness for evil like boko haram to flourish.
The deep societal malaise in the core-North has been driven even deeper by a virulently parasitic elite who have totally written off the core-Norths economic potential for a cup of oil from the SS with two sugars from the SE and milk from the SW.
Where are your groundnut pyramids? Where is your cotton? Where are your industries?

The core-North is in dire need of new leadership.

I don't understand why Desola and co always talk like traitors. It goes the other way too, when SE folk derail SW threads, but this thread is neither. What has the topic got to do with SE/SW rivalries?

The rest of us are totally sick of such behaviour. Please people, kindly shut up if you are incapable of discussing a wider Nigeria and let wiser heads crack on.

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[size=14pt]This looks just like a scam from your website.
Stop corruption![/size]
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cap28:
hahaha - how long did it take you to retract your tongue from GEJ's butt hole? or can you eat and write sh.it at the same time?

I'd rather have feverish dreams about a man who refused to enslave his people to the IMF and World bank than spend all my time worshipping a dim wit who spends his whole time on his knees saying "yes oga madam" to Hillary Clinton, like your idol does, tell me - is it true that GEJ has to stop off at the US ambassador's residence every morning to sweep their compound, make the beds and prepare breakfast?

being a subservient fisherman with zero intelligence that should come naturally.

Crap28, comrade brother!
So you still believe Gaddafi is alive? Yes?

Do you wash your squinty eyes with collected cow pee?
Do you bark like a wounded dog at night?
Do you still tie your towel to the bank?

. . .All na signs of madness!

[quote author=musiwa,,. link=topic=798481.msg9503220#msg9503220 date=1320712904]No, it is not possible. If you go to kwara state or kogi state. Yorubas, ,

there is no way, there can be Niger delta in Nigeria , You see river state , have majority Igbo people from satellite pictures. while the coast of delta state have ilaje yorubas, the north of delta have olukumi Yorubas, ,

This is possible see map. but have to be with the agreement of other nigerian.

You try to share the wealth.


between 1,000,000 to 500,000 people from delta state are married to Yorubas. less than 10,000 people of delta state are married to Igbo and ijaw people. not even 2000 are married to ijaw people. That should tell you a story.[/quote]If you don't have the map, why bother? Nonsense!
Didn't you see the map the OP posted? Is there any oil well in it?

Anyway, I have emailed you one dirty slap. It will clear your eyes, then you will post the map of Benin Republic.

egift:
You make a baseless accusation, without any regard to the truth, that say alot about who you are. Double face liar.

Abeg, carry your scamming self away. Only robbers, thieves and SCAMMERS get scarred of an anti-corruption thread.
This thread is not for your type.

Your websites name is screened out like a profanity on NL. Damn! It can't even be typed! Maybe you've even been kicked off the server by your web host.
Learn to live a straight life, so threads like this will not scare you.

Scam trader.

[size=14pt]A transparent life cures corruption.
Stand up for the sake of your kids.
Put an end to corruption[/size]

egift:
Beaf I told you before ignorance is like leprosy it eats you up helplessly. Also if you do learn, I said ask if you do not know.

Why is my site not writable on Nairaland?
Simple, Oga Admin (Seun) loves his privacy. About two years ago we publish his Photos and profile and did share same here. The link was blocked. As simple as that.

Story! Story!!
Scam, sir! Scam! That is the secret and the reason you hate to hear of the masses kicking against corruption, cos you'll be swept away like a twig.

Please people, ignore worthless scam artists on this thread and let us stand up to corruption as one.
[size=14pt]We owe that to our kids and their generations unborn.
Stop corruption dead! [/size]

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The scam links are what we are interested in, bruv. lol
Scam! Scam!! Scam!!!. . . Thats why they fear a battle against corruption.

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Who gives a toss about facebook? Na you get am?! See me see dis scammer!
I am talking about "the coal city dot com" that is where the unsuspecting are lured to and where your scam "fast money" links are.

Charlie, why is  suddenly reporting error 403 forbidden?

"the coal city dot com" (type without the spaces and replace "dot" with a fullstop) Even NL hates the name of the site and is screening it out.

[size=14pt]People, please ignore scammers and stand up to corruption.[/size]