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Politics › Re: Pdp Never Zoned Presidency -jonathan by Beaf(op): 9:55pm On Sep 28, 2010
truly:
Odili never contested against Yaradua
The Odili issue actually convinced me the presidency was zoned to the North
Odili and Duke started their campaign very early - colourful and vibrant
all these while, Yaradua was discussing with ABU to go back to lecturing
Suddenly rumours started that Yaradua would become the president
He was the last person to collect his nomination form

Yet the most visible candidates (Odili and Duke) withdrew for him
Odili was expected, but people felt that he would be difficult for Yaradua to control
Note that Rivers delegates were the only ones that stayed all through the night of the primary
They expected Yaradua to announce Odili as his running mate
This account is totally wrong. Odili was in a power struggle with EK Clark for control of the ND (employing his own private militia's against MEND)and he lost out big time, hence GEJ's ascendance. Odili never withdrew, he lost a gruelling battle. I guess that totally kills off your argument.
Politics › Re: Gej Should Declare A State Of Emergency In Abia State (aba): by Beaf: 9:46pm On Sep 28, 2010
[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=521407.msg6839467#msg6839467 date=1285706140]They both fall under breakdown of law and order which the police cannot handle.It was not until soldiers were deployed to tackle the menace of militants that the problem in the Niger delta region reduced.The case of Aba is a sign of a failed state and that is what makes it different from any kidnapping in another state.[/quote]That is false. It was the amnesty first and then the emergence of GEJ that calmed nerves; which only points to the fact that throwing the army into situations that require either negotiations or simple policing does not work. It is best to apply well thought out solutions, rather than our usual knee jerk reaction of sending in the army.

The army can be part of a combined solution, but not the solution.
Politics › Re: Jigawa Governor Blames Basin Authority For Flood Disaster by Beaf(op): 9:35pm On Sep 28, 2010
I feel a lot of pity for the people of Jigawa. I can't for the life of me, understand why in this day and age, the controls of our dams are not computerised. How can the release of such a large volume of excess water be done by guess work?
Now that it has caused the flooding of half a state, losses of more than 4billion and human lives; lets wait and see how it is dealt with.

Nigeria needs to begin taking industrilisation seriously. It is the only way to avert disasters caused by foolishness.
Politics › Re: Let's Have Your Complaints Here by Beaf: 9:17pm On Sep 28, 2010
Why is it that mods don't take public action against those that make death threats or threats to harm other NLers, as in this post?
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-521407.64.html#msg6839044
Politics › Re: Gej Should Declare A State Of Emergency In Abia State (aba): by Beaf: 9:12pm On Sep 28, 2010
mikeansy:
Is Abia in a unique situation or is Abia an example of States where a National break down of law and order has escalated?

If anybody thinks the solution to this problem is State-of-Emergency then I will say a National state of emergency needs to be declared on Nigeria.

Today is a very shameful day in the history of our country. Kidnapping is a crime and should be treated as such whether the victims are Whitemen, little kids or Tafawa Balewa's love child.

We need effective Policing in Nigeria. What is Jonathan's solution to the long term problem of insecurity of Nigeria no matter how they come. Ordering IG to look for these kids is a great expression of concern and not a security policy.
Thanks for the beautiful input. I must confess, I had not looked at it from the angle of the whole country combined with the capabilities of the Police and other security agencies. To his benefit, Jonathan okayed the fast tracking of a crack squad a couple of months or so ago, specifically to target kidnappers. But your analysis is spot on.

In the meantime, while we wait for the training of the squad to conclude, we need to think out of the box. If the governor is the mastermind, then his reasons must be discovered and any plans he has for a second term must be truncated (even if it means that PDP ends up with no candidate). The two gang leaders, Osisikakwu and Stone must be apprehended or killed. Heavily armed soldiers need to patrol the outskirts and man roadblocks on all routes out of major towns. Police (or SSS) must begin mobile phone surveillance and interception. Marked notes should be used in all ransome payments, so that routes through the markets and financial system can be traced back to the kidnappers. . . My twopence.
Politics › Re: IS ZONING LOGICAL ? ? ? ? by Beaf: 8:57pm On Sep 28, 2010
damas11111:
@ OP,

To answer your question, yes zoning is logical especially in a diverse country like ours.

All your reasons to support your stance are skewed to acchieve it. I can as well use same reasons to support my position.
However, what I think we need to always consider is the fact that, some minor tribes in our country including the current president would not have smelt the corridor of power if not for zoning. Democracy, if must be practised per se, is a game of number. If everyman votes for his fellow tribesman in an election, surely Ijaw nation will NEVER produce a president in a couintry like Nigeria.

Think about it and answer your poser objectively. Remove the wool in your eyes and you will agree that an Ijaw man would never have been a VP in Nigeria in the first place let alone the president. Even if it is the fact that the Ijaws produce 100% of the oil, it would not have mattered since we are talking about a game of number - democracy.
Your whole position is wrong. First of all I hope your typing of the words, "some minor tribes in our country," was done in error, because no ethnic group is minor and the Nigerian constitution says all are equal.

Goodluck Jonathan is not President today due to zoning, that is one of the greatest untruths floating around the rumour mill. He is President, only because Yar Adua died. The concept of zoning bandied around by some of our shameless politicians is simply a rotation of power amongst the most powerful, which everyone knows does not include minority ethnicities. Zoning makes ethnic minority candidates into doormats and laughingstocks; ask Pat Utomi why he has never gained traction, ask the same of Gamaliel Onosode (you will not find better candidates anywhere).

Zoning as brought up by the present crop of politicians, is simply a means to consolidate their grip on the means to steal Nigeria blind.
Politics › Re: Pdp Never Zoned Presidency -jonathan by Beaf(op): 8:30pm On Sep 28, 2010
What interests me is the question of why the "zoning" we hear about from the core North (who have threatened the nation with brimstone and fire) is so different from anything that has been seen in practise and from Jonathans explanation.

Are zonings proponents merely being really primitively tribalistic? Is it mere coincidence that Yar Adua was Fulani, therefore Fulani's see zoning as meaning, "from one Fulani to the other?" IBB is half Fulani, Saraki is Fulani, Gusau is Fulani, Atiku is Fulani. . . Something smells really funny.
Politics › Re: Gej Should Declare A State Of Emergency In Abia State (aba): by Beaf: 8:19pm On Sep 28, 2010
9ijaMan:
I can't even believe it that Beaf will denounce GEJ. Things are getting really interesting. Where are the rest of GEJ's political jobbers?
Playmode & OYB, kudos to you guys. Obj declared state of emergency in Ekiti state for corruption allegation against Fayose, yet after all these killings, maiming, kidnapping and abominations in Abia state our holier than thou GEJ has not even said a word. Going by one of his cronies above, he's still awaiting briefing.

I guess by now, sane Nigerians would have realized GEJ is only out for himself and himself alone!
And the last of the small minded trinity announces his dim-witted presence. oyb the oil bunkerer, playmode who is evidently into 419 (check out his fake website) and yourself, the lowlife thug. Sad lot. cry cry cry
You people don't fail to kill off important topics with your foolishness.

@topic

[size=14pt]President Jonathan orders IG TO Rescue Abducted Children[/size]

President Goodluck Jonathan has described yesterday’s kidnap of 15 nursery and primary schools pupils in a bus near Aba, Abia State yesterday as ” utterly callous and cruel”.

As contained in a press release signed by Ima Niboro, spokesperson for the President this evening, the President has also ordered Hafiz Ringim, the Inspector General of Police to take immediate actions that will lead to the rescue of the children from their abductors.


“ President Jonathan has ordered the Inspector-General of Police and heads of other security agencies to take all necessary steps to rescue the abducted children and return them safely to their parents.

“The President urges the parents and relatives of the children to remain calm and assures them that Government will do everything possible to apprehend the kidnappers and bring closure to these ugly incidents as soon as possible.

By Oluokun Ayorinde/Abuja
Politics › Re: Why Are There No Pictures Of Aso Rock On The Internet? by Beaf: 6:45pm On Sep 28, 2010
calyx:
@Beaf

A house in construction? You can do better than this na
Ok o! Henter dia an take pishure na! grin
Politics › Re: Gej Should Declare A State Of Emergency In Abia State (aba): by Beaf: 6:29pm On Sep 28, 2010
playmode: As usual nothing intelligent or worthwhile comes out of your mouth. Did you see anywhere in my post where i insulted you  

Rather than admit that explanation was d.u.m.b and utterly ridiculous , you result to insults. Oh well what more can one expect from the likes of you.
Swindlers and other loud and empty people like yourself always find ways to lie. You're only proving further that you are a fool and your brain probably fell out your ear, cos its got to be that tiny. What part of your words below don't seem deeply abusive to you?

playmode: You explanation is ridiculous at best. The reality is that GEJ does not care. Are you telling me if jonathief's wife was kidnapped today , GEJ will not call a state of emergency in Aba and send troops over? Beaf please put aside your unrelenting support for GEJ for a second and think like a patriotic Nigeria. We all know your judgement has been clouded since your tribesman became president. If one of your beloved relatives was one of the people kidnapped or killed will you be singing the same tune.
I stress again, that I am neither of the same ethnicity as Jonathan, nor am I from his state. If you can't see what is insulting in your words, you are truly lost and gutter bred.
Politics › Re: Gej Should Declare A State Of Emergency In Abia State (aba): by Beaf: 6:00pm On Sep 28, 2010
oyb:
this from the dolt who keeps spamming nairaland with empty platitudes to gej's ability

blathering about practical difficulties. if your hero is has no idea ho to handle practical difficulties bigger than facebook posts by his media advisers, i suggest that he gracefully bows out and lets more able hands steer nigeria out of this abyss.
We all know you hate GEJ, because you are an oil bunkerer who is out of job because, he has cleaned out the petroleum sector and so your "business" is now finished.
But right now, we need to feel for the souls, lost in all the tragedies ravaging Abia state. This isn't the time for pettiness.

@topic
I believe that since it is known that the culprits are Osisikankwu and Stone, crack squads need to be sent in to take both men out (perhaps, this is already being done). After both men are taken out, governor Orji needs to be impeached to face EFCC and the full wrath of the law; I don't doubt for a minute that he is involved in the kidnapping.
Politics › Re: Gej Should Declare A State Of Emergency In Abia State (aba): by Beaf: 5:42pm On Sep 28, 2010
playmode:
You explanation is ridiculous at best. The reality is that GEJ does not care. Are you telling me if jonathief's wife was kidnapped today , GEJ will not call a state of emergency in Aba. Beaf please put aside your unrelenting support for GEJ for a second and think like a patriotic Nigeria. We all know your judgement has been clouded since your tribesman became president. If one of your beloved relatives was one of the people kidnapped or killed will you be singing the same tune.

GEJ is not a genuine person , he is the same old soldier come soldier go character. He is more interested in his campaign. Do you know how disgraced I felt this afternoon, I was having lunch with a couple of my SA friends here in Johannesburg when the news broke out on CNN.I buried my head in shame being the only Nigerian in the midst of my friends. If I was in GEJ’s shoes , I would have come out to issue a quick statement to show my support for the kids kidnapped and assure the people that everything will be done to ensure the safe return of the kids.

Up till now ,it is 6:10 p.m South African time Jonathief has been quiet. Do you think if this was the Us or Sa ,the president will be quiet. How many head have rolled ,how many public official have been sacked or asked to resign over the matter? That is the difference btw Sa, Us and Nigeria. The leaders here have shame unlike Nigerian leaders who do not give a rat’s azz about the common man. You don’t need a battalion of soldier to deal with ABA.

This is what I have been saying for years , Nigeria is just fxcked up. Here in SA they have special units that deal with organised syndicates like this. With all the money we make as a nation , why don’t we have an elite underground unit that can tackle kidnappers and armed robbers instead we rely on chop make I chop detectives in a very disgraceful police force.

If I were Jonathief ,I would have visited Aba today to show the nation that my heart is with the families of the kids and I would have deployed at least 500 military men including special forces. If we can send thousands of our soldiers to their death in foreign lands all in the name of peace keeping, how come we can’t keep peace in our home land. I am sure if you go to Aba now , there is no solid investigation going on. The police force is so corrupt that you are safer without their help.

Jonathief lacks leadership qualities, he is a follower not a leader, such a shame for Nigeria; a president who might as well be mistaken for a houseboy.
You come across like a fool all the time. GEJ is not from the same ethnicity as mine, we arent even from the same state.. You are free to say any other thing in your fcked up head, but do not ever include me in your cheap shot tribalistic rants.

And for the record, I support a state of emergency in Abia. Its just that clods like you lack the ability to reason beyond the pedestrian. I have only mentioned the practical difficulties that need to be surmounted.

Where do they find !diots like you? Are you real?
Politics › Re: Alamieyeseigha Begs For Presidential Pardon, Lobby's Jonathan by Beaf: 5:17pm On Sep 28, 2010
oyb:
stop trying to derail te thread

we are watching

we can all see the sweet wind of change the messiah is bringing to nigeria

why don't you go an d make a fool of yourself on the kidnapping threads with your typical senseless attempts at making excuses for your bf's incompetence
How do you explain your position that Alams is Jonathans campaign manager when by your own article, he can't even get to see Jonathan?

The self-styled Governor General of Ijaw Nation, sources hinted, spends most of his week days in Abuja from where he has been seeking audience with President Jonathan with hopes of securing a presidential pardon.
You are just a plain old liar, who is either naturally stup!d or one who permanently suffers brain cramps. grin grin grin grin grin grin
Politics › Re: Alamieyeseigha Begs For Presidential Pardon, Lobby's Jonathan by Beaf: 5:01pm On Sep 28, 2010
@oyb
I thought fckers like you were lying just a couple of months ago that alams was GEJ's campaign manager? How does it feel when you post an article today saying;

The self-styled Governor General of Ijaw Nation, sources hinted, spends most of his week days in Abuja from where he has been seeking audience with President Jonathan with hopes of securing a presidential pardon.
Dude, your brain is full of wax.
Politics › Re: Gej Should Declare A State Of Emergency In Abia State (aba): by Beaf: 4:52pm On Sep 28, 2010
The real problem with declaring a state of emergency in Abia is that heavy concentrations of troops are needed in Northern Nigeria where there have been very open, serious and credible threats of throwing the country into turmoil, unimaginable bloodshed and chaos. Any largescale troop movements outside the North will likely be counter productive for the whole country at this time. It is a delicate situation.

The way I see out of this, is impeaching Orji and dismantling the kidnapping cartels. Orji, the ritualist is definitely the mastermind behind Abia's problems.
I believe he will be one of the politicians that EFCC will stop from contesting in PDP's new screening system.
Politics › Re: Gej Should Declare A State Of Emergency In Abia State (aba): by Beaf: 4:40pm On Sep 28, 2010
bayleaf:
such sad news we hear everyday in abia state, that one begins to wonder if there is a Government in that state. all sort of atrocities are being perpetrated in abia.
Orji has sold the state to the devil.

namdo:
WHO IS THEIR SPONSOR/S ? the answer will be interesting to know. huh cool
It wouldn't surprise me is Orji is actually using the whole of Abia as a source of sacrificial material for his primitive rituals.
Politics › Re: Why Are There No Pictures Of Aso Rock On The Internet? by Beaf: 4:02pm On Sep 28, 2010
Politics › Re: Why Are There No Pictures Of Aso Rock On The Internet? by Beaf: 3:55pm On Sep 28, 2010
Becomerich will be jealous of this one! grin
Behold Aso Rock;

https://img156.imageshack.us/img156/4080/asorockpresidentialvillom0.jpg
Politics › Re: Pdp Never Zoned Presidency -jonathan by Beaf(op): 2:19pm On Sep 28, 2010
Saraki said it was unfortunate for the president to make the claim on Kwara, which he described as factually incorrect.
He said: “Mr. President should refer to the statement by the Kwara State PDP Chairman regarding who will fly the gubernatorial ticket of PDP in Kwara State. It would be recalled that the State Chairman, Alhaji Yusuf Ayedun, stated that the party would provide a level playing ground for all aspirants in the state.

“As a result, half a dozen candidates from across all the zones are known to have picked their expression of interests and gubernatorial forms. Thus, as we are insisting at the national level, we are also committed to due process about respecting party decisions at states and at all levels. This is what we are calling all PDP aspirants to do—to respect agreements and party decisions.

”It is therefore both unfair and unfortunate for the president to have made this factually incorrect allegation. And in any case, the distribution of political positions in Kwara State over the years, even before PDP entrenched the principle in its constitution, has been guided by fairness, equity and even spread. The first two democratically elected governors of the state were from Kwara South, followed by one from Kwara North, and two from Kwara Central.”
It is really hard to imagine that the above emanated from the brain of man who wants to be president. How shallow can people get?
His self contradicting argument can be summarised as; "in Kwara, a fair playing field means no zoning, indeed zoning was simply declared dead by the state chairman; but at the national level, the very same fair playing field means zoning and no word from anybody can change that."

The man just displayed a brain size that is less than 1% of Jonathans.
Politics › Re: Gej Should Declare A State Of Emergency In Abia State (aba): by Beaf: 2:09pm On Sep 28, 2010
@topic
It is not an easy process to declare a state of emergency and its a process strewn with traps and potholes. I election season, it might be really delicate to declare a state of emergency, especially with the current set of desperate candidates that have threatened to throw the country into turmoil.
Politics › Re: Taxi Driver Who Hit Jonathan’s Car Charged For Attempted Murder . by Beaf: 4:59am On Sep 28, 2010
Uclloyd28:
You made a point here, tho is a funny way grin How can a Taxi Driver run into a President's Convoyhuh Didn't he hear the sirenhuh Can a Taxi Driver run into Obama, No Way, So why will GEJ case be different, 9Town number one citizen o
Abeg, don't call Nigeria 9Town, it is as insulting as that taxi driver crashing into the President.

@topic
To all those misguided souls asking if the man would have suffered this sort of treatment with Obama's convoy; all I can say is, pick a visa to the US and test your theory. . . And watch with amazement how you vanish from the face of Earth without trace (oh yes, some secret services are that efficient cool). A trial will convince you.
Politics › Re: Nigerians Don't Be Deceived. Open Your Eyes And See by Beaf: 4:52am On Sep 28, 2010
I thought Sahara Fake Reporters said it was 23 (even as fake as they are), now with you, it has grown to 50! shocked
I fully expect it to have grown to a 100 by Friday.

Useless beer palour news manufacturers, they can't get GEJ with anything, so they start lying shamelessly. Shame.

E da ke rumours!
Politics › Re: Nigerians Don't Be Deceived. Open Your Eyes And See by Beaf: 4:46am On Sep 28, 2010
I thought Sahara Fake Reporters said it was 23 (even as fake as they are), now with you, it has grown to 50! shocked
I fully expect it to have grown to a 100 by Friday.

Useless beer palour news manufacturers, they can't get GEJ with anything, so they start lying shamelessly. Shame.

E da ke rumours!
Politics › Re: Pdp Never Zoned Presidency -jonathan by Beaf(op): 2:33am On Sep 28, 2010
Interesting! No wonder some talk of a "gentlemans agreement!" Because PDP zoning by Jonathans description, is exactly the same as the constitutional Federal Character, the President or governor would need to have already been voted in, before Federal Character kicks in. That makes a lot of sense indeed!
Federal Character cannot be used to choose the President or governors, that will be absurd. I especially like this example Jonathan gave;

He cited the example of Kwara State, saying that “In Kwara State, you see that Saraki is leaving, because the Nigerian constitution allows for two tenure, but, of course, the younger sister is contesting. If the party has zoned the position, definitely, somebody from that senatorial district cannot contest, except the younger sister is from a different senatorial district.
QED
Politics › Pdp Never Zoned Presidency -jonathan by Beaf(op): 2:29am On Sep 28, 2010
[size=14pt]PDP never zoned presidency -Jonathan [/size]
•President’s claim ludicrous -Atiku
Written by Idowu Samuel, Abuja
Tuesday, 28 September 2010

PRESIDENT Goodluck Jonathan on Monday spoke on controversies over the  issue of zoning, averring that the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) never zoned the presidency to any part of Nigeria, contrary to claims.

He made the remarks in dismissal of claims by some northern leaders that he should respect the principle of zoning as laid down by the ruling party, and which currently favours the North.

[size=14pt]Jonathan said no political party had absolute control over zoning, adding that zoning of political offices was usually done after the emergence of president and vice-president, governors and deputy governors.[/size]

The president said the PDP had only been zoning elective offices it had control over after every election.

Jonathan, speaking after the submission of interest and nomination forms, also dismissed the allegation that he had been using the state funds to bankroll his political programmes, saying that the accusation was baseless.

He said the Nigerian electoral law frowned on such excesses.

“I am a serving president.  Most of my governors are facing the same accusation. The fact is that you cannot use state funds to run campaign.  All over the world, we have an electoral law which stipulates how much an individual can spend at elections.

“I have never used public funds to run my campaigns. At the appropriate time, I will publish the details of my campaign funds,” Jonathan said.

He was accompanied to the PDP secretariat by nine governors, including Sulli-van Chime (Enugu); Ikedi Ohakim (Imo); Adebayo Alao-Akala (Oyo); Ibrahim Shema (Katsina); Segun Oni (Ekiti) and Isa Yuguda (Bauchi).

Other governors in his entourage included Liyel Imoke, (Cross Rivers);  Akwe Doma (Nasarawa) and Dambaba Suntai (Taraba).

He was also accompanied by Alhaji Bamanga Tukur; Alhaji Dalhatu Sarkin Tafida; Chief Barnabas Gemade; Chief Ahmadu Ali; Mrs Josephine Anenih; Alhaji Adamu Maina Waziri; Alhaji Saidu Sambawa  and Chief Tony Anenih.

Jonathan made his views on zoning known, just as the PDP national chairman, Dr Okwesilieze Nwodo, urged him to prepare for a tough presidential contest in 2011.

Nwodo hinged the anticipated tough presidential contest on the calibre of aspirants who had submitted their expression of interest and nomination forms.

The chairman confirmed to President Jonathan that so far, four aspirants, including General Ibrahim Babangida, Alhaji Atiku Abubakar, General Aliyu Gusau and Dr Olusola Saraki, had submitted their forms.

Nwodo described the four presidential aspirants as heavyweights, a reason he said the president must brace up to square it up with them, since, according to him, the PDP had resolved to produce the next president in 2011.

Addressing the media on zoning, Jonathan said the standard and nature of power rotation was established in 2002 by the PDP, recalling that zoning of elective offices was done specifically in 2007 after the emergence of the late President Umaru Yar’Adua.

[size=14pt]“In 2007, after emerging with the late President Yar’Adua[/size], we all sat down at the Legacy House to determine zoning.

“Ahmadu Ali, the then PDP national chairman; former President Olusegun Obasanjo, Chief Tony Anenih and Chief Ojo Maduekwe were there.

“Then we had gotten a president from the North, a  vice-president from the South-South. Where do we place the next chairman of the party? We said it had to go to the South-East; Senate President, North-Central and we zoned all the offices,” he said.

The president said the nature of zoning in PDP was further expressed with the removal of Honourable Patricia Olubunmi Etteh as Speaker of the House of Representatives in 2007 and her replacement with Dimeji Bankole from the same South-West where she hailed from.

Jonathan drew similar allusion to the replacement of Prince Vincent Ogbulafor with Dr Nwodo as the PDP chairman, when the latter left the office on allegation of corruption.

“The issue you asked about zoning. This is the first time I have to comment on it.  I have decided to talk about it, but, at the appropriate time, you will know a little more.  [size=14pt]But, either by virtue of the PDP constitution, or in practice, the presidency of Nigeria has never been zoned to any part of the country.[/size]

“If we will read that section of the constitution on issue of zoning, PDP does not zone the presidency, but PDP zones offices they have absolute control or reasonable control over.

“But, before you zone those offices, the president and the vice-president would have first emerged.  I am saying this because I was involved,” he said.

Jonathan added that “the concept of zoning has been in the PDP from inception. We have the PDP 1999 constitution and if you ask the chairman, he will give you. This is the very first constitution and the zoning concept is there, but not expressly stated.”

According to Jonahan, in 2001 constitution, Article 7(2)(c) said: “In pursuance of the principles of equity, justice and fairness, the party shall adhere to the policy of rotation and zoning of party and public elective offices and it shall be enforced by the appropriate executive committee at all levels, from councillor to presidency.”

[size=14pt]He cited the example of Kwara State, saying that “In Kwara State, you see that Saraki is leaving, because the Nigerian constitution allows for two tenure, but, of course, the younger sister is contesting. If the party has zoned the position, definitely, somebody from that senatorial district cannot contest, except the younger sister is from a different senatorial district.[/size]

“If you look at the situation in Bayelsa State, you know my history.  I am form Bras senatorial district. I took over to finish Alami-eyeseigha’s tenure, just like it has happened at the federal level.  I was to go back and contest and the party had no objection.  I even got the party ticket after the primaries.  But because I was now drafted to contest the vice-presidency seat, the party set up a committee, Dr Ali is here and gave Timipreye Sylva, who is from my senatorial district.

“The party would have said, no, no, it had to go back, may be to the Central senatorial district, where Alami-eyeseigha comes from.

[size=14pt]“It is when a governor, deputy governor emerge, or chairman or the vice chairman of the council emerge and, at the national level, when the president and the vice-president emerge, then you now zone other offices.  And immediately that zoning is done, any replacement has to come from that zone.”[/size]

He said whenever the people talking about zoning came around, they should be asked about their political interests in 2003 and 2007, especially if they were fellow aspirants like him.

Meanwhile, former Vice-President Abubakar has said President Jonathan’s claim that zoning does not exist is ludicrous.

The former vice president said the principle of zoning and rotation of power was the very foundation upon which the PDP was built as a party.

“It is either President Jonathan is not a member of the PDP or is living in denial of the same principle of zoning, which saw his emergence as vice-president in 2007,” he said.

He promised to mail a copy of the PDP constitution to the president.

http://tribune.com.ng/index.php/front-page-news/11663-pdp-never-zoned-presidency-jonathan-presidents-claim-ludicrous-atiku
Politics › Re: Michelle Obama Shuns Patience Jonathan In New York. by Beaf: 1:22am On Sep 28, 2010
PapaBrowne:
I hope I can pledge a little support in the form of facebook and google ads. I really would like to see this turn into a huge success.
Yes of course, that will be most welcome! I'm saying thanks in advance. cheesy
Politics › Re: Ukwuani People Wikipedia Content by Beaf: 1:19am On Sep 28, 2010
Most times I shy away from identity topics, but there is so much overlap between Igbo, Isoko and Urhobo in certain parts of Delta state that it becomes dangerous to throw labels at certain groups. There are places like Umutu where it really is borderline as to which language is being spoken. Its an area that needs some care. Their Urhobo and Isoko cousins call them Ukwuani, but their Igbo neigbours object strongly. The question is; what do they call themselves?
Politics › Re: I Hate Jonathan by Beaf: 1:09am On Sep 28, 2010
At least you're honest.

Others that need to confess urgently are, oyb and Gbawe.

[center][size=49pt]Fresh Air 2011!
Goodluck Nigeria![/size]
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Politics › Re: Taxi Driver Who Hit Jonathan’s Car Charged For Attempted Murder . by Beaf: 12:39am On Sep 28, 2010
Gbawe:
grin grin grin grin grin I knew I would be vindicated finally in this day and age of information overload. we are in an information age . gestapo-style cover-up belong in the past. Assasinate the President my foot !!!! No wonder the Prosecution team could not be bothered to turn up for this ego-tripping power show they all knew was false and a waste of their time !!!
What a sad sod. cry
I wonder why so many politicians have the morality of the gutter. You are "vindicated" by a rumour started right here on NL? I really can't express the degree of shame I feel reading your words. Its a pity.
Politics › Re: Michelle Obama Shuns Patience Jonathan In New York. by Beaf: 12:35am On Sep 28, 2010
PapaBrowne:
Wooow, Beaf!!! I have just checked it out!! Splendid is the word!!Beyond excellent! This stuff has got the capacity to be a game changer for Africa. A platform for what I would term "Catalytic Renaissance". The average mind might not grasp the potential impact of what this platform can ignite, but damn, the possibilities are limitless!!

Once more, wooooow!!!Just great.
Thanks a lot, all the kind words are much appreciated. We are still generating momentum and reaching out, it tough for now, but I'm sure it will begin to take off soon, especially after September 30 (Thursday / Friday), when we will be bold enough to begin stepping out and announcing our presence to the World. I pray that its well recieved and can usher in the sort of positive technological change we need.

I really love the phrase "Catalytic Renaissance," it is what we have to strive toward.
Politics › Re: Michelle Obama Shuns Patience Jonathan In New York. by Beaf: 11:31pm On Sep 27, 2010
Politics › Re: Michelle Obama Shuns Patience Jonathan In New York. by Beaf: 11:29pm On Sep 27, 2010
PapaBrowne:
Pathethic article by Saharareporters and Gbawe. This is so desperately pathetic because less tha 30 minutes ago, I just watched a video where Patience Jonathan was with Michele.I would have pasted pictures of the meeting, but I'm browsing with my Iphone &  I don't have the patience to search out pictures and paste them.

Gbawe, you and your pathethic saharareporters will be shamed with pictoral evidence once I get back to my lappy.

Saharareporters has become a useless tabloid.
Gbawe has no shame.

In the meantime, have you seen this? http://afrosciencecommunity.com
There's still lots of building going on, but we're rolling on with sure steps.

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