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Politics › Re: Will Someone Pls Tell Goodluck 2sack Aandoaka Now Now Now! by Beaf: 1:10am On Feb 10, 2010
Gbawe:
Aondoakaa blatantly disrespected the office of the Vice President on several occasions. Our AGF did everything in his powers to deny Jonathan of his rightful mandate !!! I am no fan of Jonathan but I think that our new acting President , especially as we know it is unlikely Yardy is coming back , must start his new role by dismissing those who overtly plotted against him. A failure to sack open enemies , like Aondoakaa, will signify cowardice the undecided and uncowered hawks will feel they can capitalise on. Jonathan has inherited this position out of outright 'goodluck' ( grin grin). He must consolidate his power , as president, decisively and ruthlessly, or be drowned by those who swore not to allow him to be President - even for one minute !!!
Exactly. cool
Politics › Re: Will Someone Pls Tell Goodluck 2sack Aandoaka Now Now Now! by Beaf: 12:21am On Feb 10, 2010
Timehin:
Most nigerians will celebrate aandoaka sack anyday and likewise any disloyal member of his cabinet that may derail his efforts to move this nation forward but i hope our new president will not fail us!
I will more than celebrate. cool

I dream of the sacking during the FEC meeting tomorrow, only for teary Aondoakaa to emerge and find a MOPOL van waiting to wisk him off to Gashua for involvement in forgery! grin grin grin grin
Politics › Re: Will Someone Pls Tell Goodluck 2sack Aandoaka Now Now Now! by Beaf: 11:49pm On Feb 09, 2010
I believe Andoakaas sack will be delivered when Goodluck sits on the president chair at tomorrows FEC meeting. If he doesn't stew Aondoakaa at that meeting, we can be sure the quiet man has something up his sleeves.
Politics › Re: Would Things Have Been Different in Nigeria if We Had A Principal Ethnic Group? by Beaf: 10:45pm On Feb 09, 2010
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Just Bleep off.
We don't have any wannabe's; go and take care of your Ilaje and Egun minorities before you cast your eye outside your area. Ode.
Politics › Re: Would Things Have Been Different in Nigeria if We Had A Principal Ethnic Group? by Beaf: 8:55pm On Feb 09, 2010
[quote author=onye_ngbu link=topic=395698.msg5482479#msg5482479 date=1265742030]I agree that guy is sooo ignorant.
Or perhaps, he is referring to the itsekiris.[/quote]Oma Iwere de'de' mo ki an. Me' ma' gi'n aja' itsekiri we'.

He is daft. Itsekiri's aren't Yoruba and they certainly can't be found in Edo state.

Itsekiri is an ethnicity from Delta state only (our current gov is an Itsekiri man). They are a minority (about 4% of Delta states population), yet they have been able to produce a governor; because despite our issue's, Delta state is the freest and fairest state. Compare that with the wretchedness and marginalisation of the minority Egun and Ilaje in OPCMan's state.

There are no Yoruba people in Delta state. We reject una.

Oritse mo bie! cool
Politics › Re: Militants Destroy Shell Facility In Rivers by Beaf: 8:38pm On Feb 09, 2010
obailala:
I totally agree with u that our federal structure is wrong and that 1% of the population enjoys 99% of the nations wealth. I also agree with u that 99% of the corruption we have today in Nigeria is due to the easy oil money but where I disagree is in your assumption that with the disappearance of oil money, our nation would be a better place.
Those parasites u talk about would be more desperate and as long as they (parasites) remain on top, I fear that the status quo will still remain. I do not agree with your ideology that the ND should totally forfeit the oil wealth and remain poor.
With proper strategies, the percentage of the people enjoying the oil wealth could be increased.
Oh off course, it did affect me and a lot of people around me.
This your statement further proves my earlier assumption that u do not stay or work in the ND. A chain reaction of the reduced production affected most small mushroom companies as their contracts where terminated. Average oil company staff, contractors, subcontractors, co-sub contractors (who are mainly ND indegenes) etc were the major victims of terminated jobs, downsizing, contract suspensions etc

All I am saying is that it wouldnt make any sense to take away the meal tickets of the few innocent NDeltans that are surviving on the "crumbs" simply because u want to deprive the North from stealing the wealth. Rather, more pragmatic steps should be taken to ensure that the wealth gets to the rightful owners.
The second half of your argument is way off mark. Oil money will make little difference to what people can do for themselves if the govt invests in them as a resource; so saying the ND will remain poor if oil money is gone is not correct, in fact most of the poverty in our hinterlands are caused by the presence of oil companies and the siezure of our lands and waterways.

I believe we agree on very much everything else.

I posted an article some time ago on a practical way for the country to wean itself off oil and diversify. I've tried to search for it , but can't find it. Our only hope is true federalism, with the ND realising that we cannot achieve it in one day and there must be give and take. The bottomline is, there must be an agreed and equitable roadmap away from our dependence on oil or we will continue to have pipelines and installations destroyed and corruption thriving in Abuja. I am quite sure that the ND won't mind funding our way out of this hell and finally getting on the road to industrialisation.

frudokafor:
application forms are out in case you wish to join, i mean militancy
grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
Politics › Re: Would Things Have Been Different in Nigeria if We Had A Principal Ethnic Group? by Beaf: 7:56pm On Feb 09, 2010
OPCman:
Several ethnic group is not the problem. The problem is rivalry envy, jealousy and bad belle. We pretend to like each other- because of oil money- when in actual fact we don't. If the oil dries out tomorrow the North will quit Nigeria in speed of light. Midbelters will tell you they are not Hausa-Fulani. Or tell me do Ibos like the Yorubas if not because of Lagos?
Yoruba is not nationalistic in nature and culture (except those in NPN and now PDP) the reason other tribes see them as too tribalistic. However, this shouldn't has caused problem if the naughty person political jobbers with inferiority complex had allowed each ethnic group to manage its own affairs.

And on principal ethnic group, people can take it or leave- Yoruba is the PRINCIPAL ethnic group in Nigeria. The Yoruba of Ogun, Ondo, Oyo, Kwara, Kogi, Lagos, Ekiti, Osun, [size=14pt]plus the Yoruba in Delta and Edo[/size]; and the fact that over 60% of Nigerians speak Yoruba make us the principal ethnic group but other tribe don't like us out of jealousy. If Yoruba is given chance and opportunity to rule the country, we would transform it like the English single handededly transformed Great Britain (UK). BUT WOULD THEY ALLOW US? I DON'T THINK SO.
Rubbish!

There are no Yoruba in Delta and Edo. Yoruba land stops at Ore.
Some people are bloody ignorant liers. angry
Politics › Re: Constitutional Implications Of Yaradua's BBC Interview by Beaf: 7:43pm On Feb 09, 2010
The constitution is mostly useless anyway. That is the most important thing to take away from all of this, it is in Nigeria's interest to get a better and more representative constitution and not continue stumbling along on one handed down by the military.
Our soldiers (God bless them) are a fighting force who should have zero involvement in writing the countries democratic constitution.
Politics › Re: Akunyili Gives Agf Aondoakaa Seven Days To Recant statement or face court action by Beaf: 7:30pm On Feb 09, 2010
That guy is too stup!d to even know where Seme border is. Jail awaits him for forgery.
Politics › Re: Yar'adua's Mother, Other Move To Saudi Arabia As Anxiety Mounts by Beaf: 6:42pm On Feb 09, 2010
If things are really getting worse, then my heart goes to the Yar Adua family.
Politics › Re: Militants Destroy Shell Facility In Rivers by Beaf: 6:27pm On Feb 09, 2010
I did not refer to all who supported militants rather, i referred to those who support the militants "BLINDLY." Personally, I support the militants in their Violent struggle cos i know that the typical Nigerian listens only to the language of force but my problem with them lies in the strategy they have deployed. They are misdirecting their aggression and causing more harm.

As for my earlier statement with regards to 90% citizens of Warri, PH and other ND cities living off the oil companies, I still stand my ground. The Oil companies are responsible for the economies of these cities. I doubt if u reside in the ND else u wouldn't argue with me on this one.
Don't make me laugh. What can you tell me about Warri? Simple test for you; what is the name of the god worshipped in the Agbassa juju festival?

We would be better off without the oil companies and so would Nigeria. As Edoyad said earlier, we would suddenly realise that we have human and physical resources.
99% of the corruption we have in that country is due to easy oil money and the manner in which it is obtained. Money from expoitation breeds corruption, simple as.
If the oil companies were to leave, it would also immediately dawn on Nigerians that our federal structure is wrong. Our present arrangement was created for two purposes, the siphoning of from the ND into Hausa/Fulani cabal pockets and the directing of Hausa / Fulani commanded troops to enforce expoitation. Every state and revenue source has been subjugated to our parasitic architecture; your governor must go to Abuja to beg for money while Abuja manages everything for him (even the creation of LG's in your state).

I have another simple question for you. At the time the militants drastically reduced Nigeria's oil output, did your life change? No, it didn't. The obvious reason is that proceeds from oil go directly into Hausa/Fulani cabal pockets, it doesn't change the economy one bit; they only manage to leave a little for the import of innadequate quantities of fuel, which see's you clamouring overnight at a filling station just to get a little juice in the tank. Hilary Clinton put it very accurately when she said that only 1% of Nigeria's population benefits from oil and that it is a pity that foreigners know more about Nigeria than Nigerians.
It is high time, we as Nigerians sat down and did some really hard thinking.
Politics › Re: Recommended 7 Point Agenda For Goodluck Jonathan by Beaf: 6:03pm On Feb 09, 2010
If Yar Adua is dead or permanently incapacitated, then Goodluck can comfortably remain acting President. An acting president does not need a VP (that will surely burst a lot of bubbles grin grin grin).
Politics › Beautiful Nigeria by Beaf(op): 5:57pm On Feb 09, 2010
"The first three days of the operation,  I operated in the night. Nobody knew where I  was coming from. What I will just do is  that I will just take some detachment of  soldiers, they will just stay at four  corners of the town. They have automatic (rifles)  that sold death. If you hear the sound  you will freeze. And then I will equally now  choose about 200 soldiers and give them  grenade explosives, very hard ones.

"So we shall surround the town at  night. The machine gun with 500 rounds will  open up. When four or five like that  open up and then we are throwing grenades   and they are making eekpuwai  (onomatopoeia for loud, shattering noise), what do  you think people are going to do? And   we have already put roadblock on the main  road, we don't want anybody to start  running (we decided) we shall drive all these  people into the bush with nothing except the pants and wrappers they are using  that night" (sic). In two months,  Okutimo and his boys had overrun Ogoniland,  village by village. But in spite of the  pounding of fear into the people, despoiling of their  women and other acts of brigandage  against the Ogoni, the struggle against  government and the oil companies only  grew wider and wilder. It was therefore a  roundly frustrated Gen. Abacha who set  up and executed leaders of the Ogoni  minority rights movement, among them  the popular writer, Ken Saro-Wiwa, 10  November 1995.

Before that, it was Umuechem that came  closest to the Odi experience. Three  policemen sent to keep the peace in the  Rivers State town in 1990, were abducted  by rioting youths protesting  environmental pollution and neglect of their town by  Shell Petroleum Development Company.  When they would not give up the  policemen, a detachment of policemen  were sent to take care of the situation.  They rolled in with an armoured tank  and sophisticated combat weapons. By the  time they were through, an official  inquiry revealed, 25 persons had been killed,  650 buildings reduced to rubbles and  175 bicycles had become a mangled heap of  twisted and charred metal. Of course,  inestimable stock of crops and livestock  went up as burnt offerings to the gods  of war. The Federal and state governments  owned up to the mindless destruction  and approved compensation of N10 million  and N2 million respectively to the  people of Umuechem.
http://www.waado.org/Environment/FedGovt_NigerDelta/BayelsaInvasion/FederalGovernInvadesBayelsa/MilitaryInOdi/MilitaryMassacres.html
Politics › Contempt Of Court: Attorney-general, Ig, Cp Could Face Imprisonment by Beaf(op): 5:40pm On Feb 09, 2010
[size=14pt]Contempt Of Court: Attorney-General, IG, CP Face Imprisonment[/size]
Written by Chizoba Ogbeche, Abuja
Monday, 08 February 2010 19:11

The Attorney-General of the Federation and Minister of Justice, Michael Aondoakaa, alongside the Inspector-General of Police (IGP), Ogbonna Onovo and the Federal Capital Territory (FCT), Police Commissioner, John Haruna, may be incarcerated for disobeying an order of the FCT High Court.

Hon. Justice Othman Musa, had on January 8, 2010, in a case instituted by the incorporated trustees of Peace Corps of Nigeria and four others against the trio for illegally clamping down on the organisation, ordered that status quo before the October 1, 2009 invasion of the Corps headquarters in Abuja be maintained pending the determination of the motion on notice.

For failing to obey the order, the respondents are to appear in person before the court, on February 16, 2010 to show cause why order of committal to prison should not be made against them.

LEADERSHIP
checks revealed that the corporate headquarters of the organisation had remained closed and under the surveillance of men of the FCT Police command not withstanding a separate judgment by a Federal High Court sitting in Abuja on January 28, 2010 to the contrary.

The court, presided over by Justice Mohammed Umar, had ruled that the clamping down on the activities of the Peace Corps of Nigeria and its members, or purported suspension of its activities by the State Security Service (SSS), is illegal, unconstitutional, null, void and of no legal effect whatsoever.

Similarly, the court ruled that the harassment, molestation, intimidation, arrest and detention of members of the Corps were unlawful, illegal and an aberration of their fundamental right to dignity of their persons and personal liberty.

Attempts to get the reaction of the Force Headquarters was unsuccessful as the Force Public Relations Officer, Mr. Emmanuel Ojukwu, was unavailable, but the FCT Command's Public Relations Officer, Jimoh Moshood, said they will not honour the court order.

http://leadershipnigeria.com/index.php/news/headlines/11747-contempt-of-court-attorney-general-ig-cp-face-imprisonment
Politics › Re: Jonathan Locks Out Maduekwe, Babalola For Lateness by Beaf(op): 4:48pm On Feb 09, 2010
Jonathan has always been known for punctuality.
The locking out of ministers must be his way of signalling that it won't be business as usual. Rather its time to perform, and by God, Nigeria needs a performer.
Now that the dude is getting sworn in, lets see if na shakara.
Politics › Re: Militants Destroy Shell Facility In Rivers by Beaf: 4:34pm On Feb 09, 2010
sjeezy8:
What they want is what the whole south of Nigeria wants federalism. But blowing shiot up isnt going to change the constitution and when we do have federalism Oil companies will probably be reluctant to base their companies in the ND.
(NNPC is going private)

Not to mention some of the militants playing both sides and are not genuine to those in ND. As some militants are actually being paid to blow up pipelines in order to increase the price of Oil by dereasing the quantity of Oil.

O yea beaf is a gay
Get this into your thick skull, [size=14pt]we want the oil companies to leave[/size]. We are better off without them, did you hear that Shell paid a huge sum in out of court settlement for gross human rights abuses, just last year? Ode.

All the time ND people were going about the struggle peacefully, the rest of the country never gave a damn about what was happening. Instead, Saro Wiwa and 8 others were hanged, just as other killings and official arson continued.

[size=14pt]Do you realise the losses at Odi alone are estimated at 2500 dead? Did you shameless hypocrites come out on the streets to demonstrate? The ND has lost 60,000 innocent souls and 50 communities in this way. Have you hypocrites even signed a single pertition?[/size]

Some misguided people think that MEND is there to help them do their own fighting, sorry, get your own people to agitate or fight or whatever. Afterall, if it wasn't for MEND, retards like you wouldn't even know that the system Nigeria paractices is more feudal than federal. Dummy.
Some of you are thinking about their jobs, well underage children, their mothers and sisters are despoiled daily and their men murdered in the creeks to provide you that "job". You are too empty and soulless to realise that, you don't care for us and we surely aren't fighting for you; we need to free ourselves first. Fight for yourselves, or don't you people have balls that minority groups should be the ones to wake up and do your fighting?

The whole World regards the Niger Delta as a place were some of the worst human rights abuses occur (I provided enough links from the UN, Amnesty International etc). Here is another one from an ND person http://www.pambazuka.org/en/category/comment/34801

if you refer to my little story, i referred to the FG as "Landlords" and i also highlighted the molestation of the ND people with soldiers whenever they tried to complain peacefully. I also know the story of Saro Wiwa very very well.

. . .

Are you aware that over 90% of the citizens of Warri, PH and other ND cities feed directly or indirectly from the crumbs that fall from the tables of these oil companies?
In your little story, you referred to those who support the militancy as "FOOL's". Practically a 100% of ND people support the militancy. If you claim to know Saro Wiwa's story and the fact that there is no negotiation with ND people, rather all oil bearing land is simply siezed by the FG, then rather than spout more rubbish, a more descent and balanced person would have offered an apology.
Instead you render more lies about 90% of jobs in Warri and PH depending on the very oil companies we want to leave. You don't know what you are talking about, yet you want to continue talking stup!dly.
Politics › The International Criminal Court To Consider Petition On Jos Violence by Beaf(op): 6:47am On Feb 09, 2010
[size=14pt]Hague Court to consider petition on Jos violence[/size]
By Ifedayo Adebayo
February 9, 2010 01:52AM

The International Criminal Court (ICC) will consider the petition filed before it by a Nigerian group, the Socio-Economic Rights and Accountability Project (SERAP), requesting an investigation into the deaths of at least 326 people during the last violence in Jos, Plateau State, an official of the court has said.

The Head of Information and Evidence Unit, Office of The Prosecutor at the ICC, M.P. Dillon, said the Court will get back to the group on the next line of action on the petition filed before it by the petitioners’ lawyer, Femi Falana.

“We will give consideration to this communication, as appropriate, in accordance with the provisions of the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court. As soon as a decision is reached, we will inform you, in writing, and provide you with reasons for this decision,” Mr Dillion wrote

Mr Falana said the decision is an important one.

“We look forward to the ICC getting fully involved and addressing the subject matter of the petition,” he said. “Given the persistent lack of political will by the Nigerian government to address the problem, we believe the intervention by the ICC in this case is especially important.

“Ending impunity for the cycle of violence in many parts of Nigeria are absolutely important for sustainable peace, stability and security, and for the country’s social, economic and political development.”

The petition

In a petition dated January 29, 2010 and addressed to Luis Moreno Ocampo, Prosecutor, International Criminal Court, the group asked that the court to investigate and bring to justice those suspected to be responsible for crimes against humanity in Jos.

The petitions requests the ICC to: “Urgently commence an investigation proprio motu on the allegations of the unlawful killing of at least 326 people and other crimes committed during the violence in Jos this month, with a view to determining whether these amount to crimes against humanity within the Court’s jurisdiction.”

The petitioners also asked the court to invite representatives of the Nigerian government to provide written or oral testimony so that the Prosecutor is able to conclude whether there is a reasonable basis for an investigation.

http://234next.com/csp/cms/sites/Next/News/Metro/Politics/5524084-147/hague_court_to_consider_petition_on.csp
Politics › Re: Yar’adua: Fec Makes U-turn •asks Senate To Empower Jonathan •30 Ministers Back A by Beaf: 6:31am On Feb 09, 2010
Sources at the meeting disclosed that two ministers from the South-West and two other members of Yar’Adua’s kitchen cabinet were in attendance. Attorney-General of the Federation and Minister of Justice, Mr. Michael Aondookaa, was absent at the meeting.
That dude is probably to stup!d to know how to escape the country. He will soon be in jail for forgery.
Politics › Re: Jonathan Locks Out Maduekwe, Babalola For Lateness by Beaf(op): 6:27am On Feb 09, 2010
Pifa:
I was beginning to praise the Vice President until I read the reason the two ministers gave for their tardiness. If the newspaper reported correctly that the ministers were informed minutes before the meeting, then I'd have to disagree that it showed Mr. Jonathan's discipline. I thought it was insensitive and disrespectful to give a minister just ten minutes to arrive at an unscheduled meeting that was not a state emergency.

I would imagine that ministers have daily itineraries and are not just sitting on their rear waiting to be called at the VP’s behest. Even the CEO of my company would have his secretary schedule a meeting with me based on my availability. If he always had to summon me 10 minutes before an unscheduled meeting, then he had to realize that I would be either late or I would keep interrupting important projects to attend to him.
It is impossible for a meeting between Nigerian officials and a delegation of the management of the European Investment Bank would have been impromptu. It is also impossible that the ministers wouldn't have known about such an important matter in their area of jurisdiction. It is most likely that they were given a call 10 minutes before time to ask why they hadn't yet arrived.
Politics › Re: Militants Destroy Shell Facility In Rivers by Beaf: 6:14am On Feb 09, 2010
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You are so funny. Like I indirectly asked someone earlier; do you think you are smarter than Wole Soyinka? You certainly aren't, but you must think he is a "FOOL" for being on MEND's Aaron team.

All you have done in display a deep ignorance of Nigeria by imagining that some "shrew neighbour" had some negotiation with the ND about drilling oil. My friend, all ND land that has oil is simply siezed by the federal government, end of matter. If ND people complain, they send in soldiers; has the protest always been violent? No, go and educate yourself about Ken Saro Wiwa and the 8 others executed with him.

If you want to know about the MEND, at least read up before disgracing yourself about some "shrewd neigbour". You can start here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movement_for_the_Emancipation_of_the_Niger_Delta

This is from Amnesty International (but maybe you've never heard of them or think they are "FOOL's"wink
http://www.amnesty.org/en/library/asset/AFR44/025/2005/en/560409c0-d49a-11dd-8a23-d58a49c0d652/afr440252005en.html
http://www.amnesty.org.uk/news_details.asp?NewsID=18292

This is a UN document http://unpan1.un.org/intradoc/groups/public/documents/IDEP/UNPAN004219.pdf
This UN document also makes a brief mention of the ND http://www.un.org/ecosocdev/geninfo/afrec/newrels/indigen.htm

Stanford Universities intro to Shell mentions the human rights abuses in the Niger Delta http://www.stanford.edu/group/SICD/Shell/shell.html

This US court case might also interest you http://ccrjustice.org/files/Wiwa_Complaint_03_01.pdf

I guess the United Nations, American universities and courts etc are all "FOOL's" or were you really talking about yourself?
Politics › Re: Militants Destroy Shell Facility In Rivers by Beaf: 4:51am On Feb 09, 2010
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Soyinka knows the answer. grin

You didn't mention MEND? shocked But you quoted me and in that quote I mentioned MEND and was obviously talking about them alone; you cannot generalise my reply to something else; it just doesn't work that way.

Ask Soyinka what MEND is fighting for, he is part of their Aaron Team and has even visited the president in that capacity.
Politics › Re: Militants Destroy Shell Facility In Rivers by Beaf: 4:21am On Feb 09, 2010
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Wole Soyinka knows what MEND is fighting for, because he is a major part of MEND's Aaron Team. He is a Nobel Laureate that is very far from the muddled picture you put up there. Stop doing the great man a disservice.
Politics › Re: Militants Destroy Shell Facility In Rivers by Beaf: 4:11am On Feb 09, 2010
SEFAGO:
terrorists are never sure of what they are fighting for. It could be 70 year old virgins, it could be paradise or it could be just a way of getting out of the miserable experience called life.

Same for the MEND folks
In whose book and by whose definition is MEND a terrorist group?
If you are going by the US definition, it might interest you that America does not classify MEND as terrorist (hint, check the US State Department website). Foreigners tend to have a more accurate view of Nigerian issues. I wonder why?
Politics › Re: Militants Destroy Shell Facility In Rivers by Beaf: 3:02am On Feb 09, 2010
SEFAGO:
Men these terrorists have to be hunted down. They are going to destroy [size=14pt]industry [/size]in Nigeria undecided
Are you serious? Which industry, candle making or roadside petrol hawking? grin grin grin grin

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