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There have long been rumours that the sons of two ex-chief justices are involved. . . I wonder.
We will soon know the identities of the two Nigerians and why they are considered to be serious threats to security.

otawa:
which Bin Laden?

Did you see the 'video' where Bin Laden said this or your voice message from US Governement?

Do you know another Bin Laden? Or did you see a video where he denied it? Damn!
I guess this is the voice of Mossad;

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Abeg, free me!

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Afam:
Forgive me if my posts have been misunderstood, never my intention. I am a straight talker trust me, I don't mince words and I try to be a clear as possible.

The question based on logic stands. Any answer?

No probs.
I believe that for an ex US president to call an enemy of the US (which Mutallab personifies), there have to be very strong extenuating circumstances. In fact, it would have to be another Mutallab or a namesake.

wirinet:
Beaf, the problem is not the constitution, it is because the operators disregard the constitution. I had never been a fan of the 1999 constitution as it is a Military Decree, But even at that the power elite defaecate all over it.  They interpret it to suit their whims and caprices. And the problem is not restricted to the Northerners alone, every power group is twisting the laws to suit itself.

We do not need to dump sharia practicing states. It we have true federalism and resource control, i would have not problem with using their resources to fund sharia activities, my quarrel is using the resources gotten from other regions to practice sharia that is antagonistic to the people of the region funding the sharia institutions.

My guy, any house built on a shaky foundation will fall; that is what we are witnessing now. Everything about our national structure and constitution point our way to backwardness and corruption.

In the case of the sharia states, the constitution is secular. There is no place for religous law in a secular state, especially when such laws are as stone age as sharia. If loopholes have been found through which sharia has been smuggled in, then the constitution is useless in that regard; on the other hand, if the sharia states are blatantly in contravention, there is no clearer way of stating that they do not wish to be governed by the constitution and so they should be released.

Afam:
I only apologize when I have done wrong and thus far I have not seen any wrong doing.

Can you now answer my question about the "if Bush calls Muttalab guy a hero" scenario? You can answer the question with something like "I am guilty with reasons and then proceed to give the reasons".

Let us forget about the thread starter and the inherent political undertones surrounding Iran, Israel, US, Britain and our battered image.

Trust me I am only going ahead with this thread because I refuse to believe that you have abandoned logical reasoning and as such would do my best to knock you back to your senses because we cannot afford to lose you on this section of the forum where a lot of irrelevant posts are being posted.

Wow! I believe you are being sarcastic here.
The original topic cannot be forgotten and the apology is still due.

Afam:
@Beaf,

Sometimes we get so emotional that we lose the point completely.

What has Iran or Nigeria's battered image got to do with the if scenario?

Did Iran make any comment about Bush?

Do not attempt to assume you know what another person thinks as that would be an exercise in futility. I always tell people that they can only vouch for what they think and not what someone else thinks as you could be 100% wrong.

Feel free to hate Iran or love the US but please learn to address issues as stated, no need misinterpreting or giving a life to something that does not exist all in the bid to justify a statement that does not have a solid foundation.

What if Mugabe calls Muttalab a hero tomorrow? Would it then be right to claim Mugabe sent him? Logic has no place for sentiments or emotions.

I didn't say Iran or Nigeria's battered image had anything to do with the "if" scenario. I clearly said "The current thread is a case in point." Reread what I wrote.
The thread starters argument that is promoting Iran's interests to Nigeria's detriment. Reread what I wrote.

Can I get an apology now?

Afam:
Interesting response.

Can anything change the "if" statement? No. You may be interested in labeling Bush anything if he makes such a statement but I am not, I am only interested in the fact that a similar statement from Bush would change the current position about Muttalab and Osama based on Osama allegedly calling him a hero.

Now, you talk about Osama saying so and Osama not denying saying so.

Have you ever heard or read about many different groups laying claims to any act they would be proud to associate themselves with? If you have not I have even in Nigeria where someone claimed to have set fire at the NNPC building at Ikoyi, today the man is a human rights activist.

Again, you seem to effortlessly believe that either Osama actually made the statement or that his not denying he ever made the statement makes it certain that he indeed made the statement.

What if Osama is long dead and gone? What if he didn't make the statement and finally what if Al Qaeda doesn't give a damn about refuting the statement credited to Osama assuming Osama did not make the statement?

This is all about logic that anyone can easily relate to.

I am neither a supporter of Osama nor Bush so attributing a statement to either is not something I hold dear to my heart. I simply provided another angle to prove that your conclusion that no other person could have supported Muttalab since Osama called him a hero stands on a very shaky foundation.

Enjoy the coming weekend and leave out unnecessary accusations like being mischievous and let us for once trash out an issue without name calling or diversions.

I disagree, but most especially with the bolded. I understand from your arguments above that you are interested in seeing alternative sides to the current Mutallab issue, because there might be tenuous possibilities. That is a noble viewpoint.
However, I am interested in debunking positions that overreach the facts and end up promoting other countries foreign policies (Iran's, in this case) to the detriment of Nigeria's already battered image. The current thread is a case in point.

You too, have a lovely and peaceful weekend.

The whole consititution is as useless as our federal structure. They all need to be thrown out.

The main problem with Nigeria is that our consititution is based on those written by IBB and Abacha to perpetrate themselves in power for life, while stealing oil money from the South.

We need a national conference as soon as this rubbish is resolved. Let every section of the country decide who they want to live with. I personally volunteer the dumping of all Sharia practising states, all our major problems (including cabals) seem to originate from these areas.

[size=14pt]Breaking news!
Mossad has kidnapped Yar Adua and changed Turai into Aondoakaa! Sharia was implemented by 12 Northern states because Mossad wrote them a section 145 letter.[/size]

Also, reports reaching us say that all the Policemen collecting "roger" at checkpoints are Mossad people!

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Afam:
My statement was an "if" statement and I expected you to understand that as "what if" scenarios are usually used to analyze situations. I hope you now get my point.

Meanwhile, the claim that Osama called him a hero may not be factual.

This is your "if" statement;

Afam:
Going by your logic would you apply same if tomorrow George Bush calls the man a hero? Would you then make a case and believe Bush sent him?

The reason I said "facts are sacred", is that every fact is based on actual occurrences or deeds. Your error is in mixing fact and conjecture.

The "if" statement carried a definite and unpleasant implication. Needless to say, the logic behind it is quite shaky; because Osama Bin Laden and Mutallab are affiliated by their own confessions; but it is a wild stretch to fathom an extremist relationship between George Bush and the terrorist bastar'd Mutallab. Indeed, if George Bush ever call's Mutallab a hero, you can be 100% certain that he has lost rationality, either by some freak action of nature, accident or from imbibing substances inimical to his well being.
Therefore, I see no basis for your statement above and can only see it as somewhat mischievous (if it wasn't, we can drop this argument).

On the side issue of "the claim that Osama called him a hero may not be factual"; contrarily, Bin Laden has not denied that he made the statement credited to him and neither has his terrorist organisation, Al Qaeda denied that he made the said claim. More damning is the fact that several Al Qaeda websites have come out in support of their "hero" in the person of the delusional Mutallab and have serially published the claim you argue might not be factual.
All of the above facts make that particular claim factual beyond reasonable doubt.

Afam:
Going by your logic would you apply same if tomorrow George Bush calls the man a hero? Would you then make a case and believe Bush sent him?

Facts are sacred.
Bin Laden has called the terrorist bastar'd Mutallab a hero. George Bush has not. Facts.
Al Qaeda claims to have sent the terrorist bastar'd Mutallab, he in turn claims to belong to Al Qaeda. What's your point?

Why don't you mind your business instead of becoming the unwanted "angel of the Niger Delta"? Ole!

Shouldn't you be more worried about relocating Oduduwa to Benin republic??

Why is it paining you? Ole!

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Abeg free me!

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[size=14pt]Niger Delta and Nigeria’s Presidential and Constitutional Crisis[/size]

January 25, 2010

Hon. Senator David Mark
President of the Senate
P.M.B 141
Three Arms Zone
National Assembly, Abuja
Nigeria

Hon. Dimeji Bankole
Speaker of the House of Representatives
Office of The Speaker
PMB 141
Three Arm Zone
National Assembly, Abuja
Nigeria

Dear Mr. President and Mr. Speaker:

We write this letter to you on behalf of Urhobo Historical Society, a Nigerian association that is particularly interested in the welfare of the Niger Delta and its constituent units. We wish to address the ongoing political and constitutional crisis that has been provoked by President Umaru Yar’adua’s ill-health and incapacitation. It is a crisis that has humbled the country’s image and that has rapidly deteriorated into circumstances that seriously put at risk the very survival of the Nigerian state. We join with other patriotic Nigerians who have called on those who wear the label of leadership of the nation to discharge their duties properly, with courage and integrity, and to be ever faithful to the command of the constitution of the country.  As Niger Deltans, we are also compelled to  highlight the associated  and unrelenting attack on Niger Deltans  whose rights as citizens of Nigeria  have been challenged by those who willfully violate the Constitution because they refuse to accept the simple fact that  Nigerians from the Niger Delta have the same right, as any of their compatriots from any other region of the country, to attain and to occupy any political office in Nigeria, including the Presidency, and, should the need arise, the acting presidency.

Why This Letter Is Addressed to
the President of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives

In other times, letters that touch on issues as weighty as the welfare and the survival of the nation would, of course, be addressed to the President of Nigeria. However, it is the unusual absence of the President from his duties that has occasioned the current crisis; hence this letter cannot be addressed to him because we do not know where he is. Nor can it be addressed to the Vice President who is clearly recognized by the Nigerian Constitution as the next in command whenever the President is absent from his duties. This is because there is a well-entrenched and patently unconstitutional attempt by powerful forces in the nation’s body politic to willfully violate the Constitution by preventing the Vice President from assuming the reins and responsibilities of the Presidency, in an acting capacity, in the absence of the substantive President. In these circumstances, we address this letter to you, the two officers whom the Constitution recognizes after the President and Vice President, because of your leadership positions in the legislative assemblies of the land. In writing to you as the President of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives, it is our hope and prayer that as  Constitutional officers of the National Assembly, you will share our concerns and message with your colleagues in Nigeria’s dual legislative chambers.

The Constitutional Problem of the Absence of
the President of the Federal Republic of Nigeria from His Office and Duties

There is probably no other instance of the misconduct of a Constitutional officer of the Federation that has attracted as much attention and concern in Nigeria’s history as the mystery surrounding the disappearance of President Umaru Yar’adua from his office and duties for a period that now exceeds two months. It will not be said by future historians that the Nigerian public kept quiet while their Government fiddled with the issues of the President’s health and the requirement that he should protect Nigeria’s welfare by transferring power to his deputy before embarking on a medical treatment that might incapacitate him. The spectacle to which the Nigerian population has been treated is one in which the actions of government officers appear principally motivated, not by the common good of all Nigerians, but by  a seemingly all-consuming desire to exalt personal gain and secure sectional benefit from the unfortunate circumstances of the President’s ill-health. A straightforward constitutional matter has now degenerated into a major national and international crisis that has humiliated Nigeria at every turn.

Legally and constitutionally, the requirement that the President shall hand over the duties of his office to his deputy in the event that he will undergo incapacitating medical treatment seems clear from the much-quoted Section 145 of the 1999 Constitution of Nigeria.  What has not been equally emphasized in the public outcry over President Yar’adua’s failure to act according to the terms of the Constitution in this regard is the underlying reason why this Constitutional provision is important and necessary. It is a provision that is embodied in the constitutions and conventional practices of many countries all over the world, including those that are commonly considered the most mature ones. The master reason for demanding that, in circumstances in which they will be unfit to govern temporarily in their nations, executive heads of states and heads of governments should hand over their responsibilities to designated deputies has to do with the welfare of the nation to which they are expected to devote their time for as long as they serve in such offices. This rule, whether constitutionally empowered as in Nigeria or enforced by custom and conventional practice, is not for the comfort and discretion of the heads of states. It is for the protection of the welfare of the countries and the nations that they are sworn to serve. That is why President Yar’adua’s disregard of this provision of the Constitution represents utter contempt for the people of Nigeria whose welfare he swore to protect and promote.

We note that before the incident of the President’s breach of this provision of the Constitution on November 23, 2009, which has resulted in his prolonged disappearance from the Nigerian public, President Yar’adua had absented himself several times from his office and his duties without obeying the Constitution’s command that he should hand over his duties to his Vice President for temporary governance of the nation’s affairs. At no time on those previous occasions did the National Assembly query the unconstitutional absence of the President from his duties. We believe that in so failing to protect the Constitution from abuse by the President, the chambers of the National Assembly abdicated their sworn duties to the Nigerian people and served them poorly.

High-Profile Disregard of the Constitution and the Law
and the Growing Culture of Impunity in Nigeria

We would like to canvass the view that such high-profile disregard for the Constitution and the law as the President and the National Assembly have shown does breed its own ill-consequences. This is so because these Constitutional officers are imitated by other officials and actors, including the young, who therefore feel encouraged and empowered to disregard the law. During the decades of military rule, Nigeria’s heads of governments acted as if they were above the law. The whole point of Constitutional rule was to over-ride those ugly years of Nigerian history. Sadly, the behaviours of President Yar’adua and the National Assembly amply remind us that the bad ugly old days of disrespect for the Constitution and the law continue. This pattern of behaviours breeds and encourages bad practices outside Abuja. Indeed, there is a growing culture of impunity in Nigeria which conveys the clear message to some protected individuals and communities that they will not be punished if they willfully violate the laws of the land. The most alarming instance of this culture of impunity was recently outlined by a writer in saharareporters.com (Sunday, 27 December 2009). Rudolf Ogoo Okonkwo writes: “In the four decades since the [civil] war, there had been perennial [religious] massacres . . . in the North. Over 40 incidents had happened, some small, some large. Meanwhile, nobody had ever been arrested, prosecuted or jailed for any of the killings.”

The nasty sin assemblies of annual rituals of religious mayhem and massacres in many states in Northern Nigerian feed from such a culture of impunity and pose an existential threat to the Nigerian state. Until there is a strong demonstration by the highest Constitutional officers of the nation that they too are subject to Nigeria’s Constitution and her laws, it is probably wise to expect that these domestic religious upheavals will turn into domestic terrorism that will overwhelm Nigeria’s political structures.

The President’s Health and the Nation’s Security and Its National Secrets

When a mature nation has a new president or a new head of government, he goes through rituals which transform him from an ordinary citizen into what might rightly be termed a super-citizen. He is empowered and invested with his nations’ topmost secrets and security apparatuses. These secrets and security systems may well be matters of the existential provenance of his nation. They may be matters of life and death for the entire population of the nation that he governs. The president or prime minister is usually in control of the secret services of his country because they are vital for the survival of the modern nation-state.

Usually, as a tradeoff, the movements and daily routines of the president or head of government become restricted. He cannot be available unprotected to agents of foreign governments. Even in circumstances of ill-health, the nation’s secret services will make sure that the president or prime minister is not in vulnerable circumstances that will endanger the nation’s secrets and security systems. The matter of the medical treatment of the president or prime minister of a mature nation is not simply a family issue in which his wife and family have the final word. Even on his sick-bed, the president or prime minister cannot escape his national security and secret service operatives. In addition to such a national secret service necessity, the president or prime minister of a mature nation  has his own personal physician and, if necessary,  a medical team that are fully paid for by his country. Such specialized medical personnel are expected to travel with the president wherever he goes and to be available for his medical welfare at all times. In many mature countries, this protocol applies to past presidents and prime ministers who on previous occasions kept their nations’ top secrets.

It is in the light of these international norms and practices that we must question what has happened to Nigeria’s national secrets and security systems that were in the custody of President Umaru Yar’adua. It is now well known that he has not been available to Nigerian Government officials for months now. From the pronouncements of officials of the Government in Abuja, including members of the National Assembly, President Yar’adua is not under the complete watch of Nigeria’s secret service. Which Constitutional Officer is now in charge of the nation’s secrets and security system? Since President Yar’adua’s so-called “kitchen cabinet” has effectively blocked Vice President Goodluck Jonathan from acting in place of the President, we should assume that the security systems of the nation as well as our top secrets are not under his control.

What we all learn from various spokespersons of the Federal Government of Nigeria is that our President is entirely under the care of a foreign government. The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia is solely and wholly in charge of the welfare of the President of Nigeria. Indeed, some officials of Nigeria suggested that Nigeria should approach the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia for a statement about our President’s whereabouts and about his health. It is entirely possible that the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia is now privy to whatever Nigerian secrets and security systems President Umaru Yar’adua knows or once knew. Nigerian officials have no way of knowing whether the President’s medication includes medicines that will help him to volunteer the truth to the officials of a foreign government. Even if there are secret pacts that have farmed out Nigerian secret services to the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, this is not a matter about which patriotic Nigerians should be nonchalant. Apart from these concerns on security matters, the nation is entitled to be informed about the status of President’s personal physician and his team of doctors and medical staff who are paid for by the Nigerian people to take care of the President. Is it the case that the National Assembly forgot about the President’s medical team or is it just possible that they were barred from the presence of the President while he stays in the custody of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia? The nation deserves answers to these questions.

On behalf of the Nigerian people, we must ask the President of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives a straightforward question: Can you assure Nigerians that Nigeria’s top secrets and her security systems have not been compromised in the course of President Umaru Yar’adua’s unconstitutional absence from Nigeria while in the care and custody of a foreign government?

Niger Delta and Nigeria’s Presidency

Nigerians from the Niger Delta are patriotic people who have contributed in disproportionate measures to the development and reputation of their nation. They have produced scholars of note and have otherwise contributed to the growth of Nigerian and African academia. They have worked very hard in all ways in the public sector and in private vocations. They have contributed to Nigeria’s arts, sports, and culture in immeasurable ways. In economic matters, they are second to none in their contribution to Nigeria’s welfare. They have shared their natural assets, particularly their petroleum mineral oil resources, with the rest of the country, even as successive Nigerian governments have abused and exploited the region as if it were a disinherited colonial post in a far away land.  Indeed, without the oil wealth of the Niger Delta, Abuja, Nigeria’s capital territory, could not have been built, and the Nigerian state would today be bankrupt and fiscally unable to function.  Put simply, without the oil wealth of the Niger Delta, Nigeria would be a failed state.  In view of these substantial contributions, we, like other patriotic Nigerians, are sorely worried about the misrule that has brought our country to her knees. Our current circumstances bring pain to all of those Nigerians who truly care about the future of the country – especially if they have worked hard for what they hoped would be a good future.

However, there is an additional source of pain for Niger Deltans. A section of the nation is telling us that, in spite of our contributions, we are not fit to serve in certain leadership positions. Let the point be fully stated. Those who have violated the Constitution in the matter of the President’s ill-health and his incapacitation by preventing the Vice President to act in a temporary period as President are not unintelligent people. On the contrary, the President, his “kitchen cabinet,” and the leadership and members of the National Assembly fully understand the meaning of the Constitution and are aware that the Constitution plainly directs that Vice President Goodluck Jonathan should be the Acting President. The question that should be posed to those who oppose his assumption of the duties which the Constitution commands are now his to discharge, is not whether they understand the Constitution, because they do. The question, rather, is more pungent: Why, despite their clear understanding of the Constitution, have they decided to willfully violate it? Obviously, they have made the political calculation that it is more profitable to disobey the law and obstruct Vice President Goodluck Jonathan from becoming Acting President than to obey the law and allow a Niger Deltan to take that position. This is a piece of logic that is unacceptable to Niger Deltans. For the good of the country, we demand that those who are responsible for this crisis must take steps now to end it before it becomes too late to pull back from the abyss.

We are aware that there are allegations that youth restiveness in the Niger Delta is a national problem. Perhaps we should state that our youths are some of the most hard-working people in the country. Government policies have caused mass unemployment in a region where young men and women love to work. We are convinced that with proper policies the problem of youth restiveness in the Niger Delta will resolve itself. Meanwhile, the nation is running away from the far more serious problems of sectarian and religious divisions that we have reason to believe are fuelled and financed from outside Nigeria. These religious cleavages have resulted in tens of thousands of deaths with no clear plans to curb those who instigate them. We in the Niger Delta have not declared that the leaders of the Northern states in which these mayhems occur are thereby disqualified from the Presidency of Nigeria. We therefore very much resent it when it is suggested that Vice President Goodluck Jonathan, a Niger Deltan, should not be the Acting President because some of the youths of the Niger Delta are restive.

Niger Deltans believe that Vice President Goodluck Jonathan is fully qualified to be an Acting President or the President of Nigeria. We pray for him and for the quick recovery of President Umaru Yar’adua.

May God Save the Federal Republic of Nigeria.


Sincerely,


Editorial and Management Committee, UHS:

Peter P. Ekeh, Ph.D., Chairman
Isaac James Mowoe, Ph.D., J.D., Deputy Chairman
Onoawarie Edevbie, M.A., M.Sc., Secretary
Joseph O. Asagba, Ph.D.
Edirin Erhiaganoma, M.Sc
Joseph E. Inikori, Ph.D.
Francis Odemerho, Ph.D.
Omokere E. Odje, Ph.D.
Emmanuel Ojameruaye, Ph.D.
Aruegodore Oyiborhoro, Ed.D.
Ufuoma Scott, LLB, BL
Ajovi Scott-Emuakpor, M.D., Ph.D.

January 25, 2010

http://waado.org/Organizations/UHS/niger_delta/presidential_crisis.htm

What do you think?

The BBC was caught on the back foot by the reactions of Nigerians to the Presidents bogus phone call. They must have thought we were all stu'pid and unsophisticated, but they ended up the ones with egg in their faces and found it necessary to make several explanations and clarifications.

In the very same week that the BBC made the famous "phone call", several newspapers around Europe had reported that Yar Adua had suffered irreversible brain damage. A US website reported that he had in fact died on the 10th of December 2009. This is a link to the UK Telegraphs article http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/nigeria/6962983/Nigeria-in-crisis-after-president-left-seriously-brain-damaged.html

So how come the BBC engaged him in the now infamous "phone call"? Could it be something as sinister as, that they have the technology to do so? If that were to be the case, it would raise several difficult and troubling questions.
Is it possible to digitally fake a persons voice? Well, not only is it possible to fake a voice with modern technology, it is also possible to actually bring the dead back to life and feature them in videos.

I have embedded two video's were the dead have been digitally resurrected as proof:
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[li]The first is of Bob Monkhouse, who was digitally resurrected for an advert 4 years after his death[/li]
[li]The second (and of poorer quality) is of John Lennon, whose own resurrection for an advert occured a whopping 28 years after he passed away[/li]
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[quote author=ndu_chucks link=topic=389167.msg5405697#msg5405697 date=1264706827]According to ThisDay, Gowon, Shagari, and Shonekan have written a letter to the national assembly indicating that they want President Yar'Adua to write vacation letter so that Jonathan can become acting President with full executive priviledges. Details are still sketch.

Yar'Adua will have to do the right thing or face impeachment very soon. [/quote]See this funny mallam. Where do you stand?

akigbemaru:
Katsumoto,
Yoruba ni ti aba ma je oshaka ki aje oshaka tabi ti aba ma je oshoko ki aje oshoko, oshaka-shoko lawa ko fe. So, therefore, ibos are trying to be Oshaka-oshoko, which is what I don't like. You "Katsumoto" has been too lenient to ibos which is unfair. Anyway, they don't appreciate you either. They go on YOUTUBE calling theirselves Jews of Africa, that is the reason all other tribes in Nigeria want to exterminate them. We "Yorubas" are not Jews, we glad for whom we are.

This akigbemaru has always been such a bushman, but what do you expect from an unrefined native doctor?

Poor Yar Adua (or his body) is being held to ransome by a coterie of maniacs.

. . .But, at this point in time, no serious person gives a left sided Bleep whether Yar Adua is returning yesterday or the day before. He and his good for nothing retinue need to smell the coffee and abandon their futile and criminal power intoxication.

Good people should start preparing places for the kitchen cabinet in Gashua, Ita Oko and Kirikiri.

asha 80:
i do not think the girls up there are complaining.

How can children complain about their parents and adult males who are emotionally, physically and financially stronger than them? They are powerless kids.

A lot of pressure needs to be put on states where this disturbing practices are entertained. Child marriage is institutionalised ra'pe, it is the distruction of youthful lives, hope, dreams and aspirations for the benefit of the criminal lust of men who could be their fathers, with the acquiescence of women who could be their mothers.
Children need nurturing and protection, not marriage.

What surprises me most about the daftness of this thread is the fact that Bin Laden called the bastar'd Mutallab terrorist a hero. Or does Bin Laden now work for MOSSAD too?

Daft.

This is so wrong.
We need to protect these children. The United Nations states that girls as young as 13 are married off in Kebbi for instance.
The worst thing about such "marriages" is that, after the child has contracted VVF, all the "husband" has to do is say, "I dovorce you" 3 times.
For goodness sake, these are the leaders of tomorrow.

[size=14pt]Nigeria Struggles to Protect Child Brides[/size]
Underage marriage outlawed, but Muslim leaders support it
By Sarah Quinn| Posted Nov 28, 08 10:44 AM CST

(Newser) – In northern Nigeria, almost half the girls are married by age 15, and a law outlawing child marriage faces serious resistance from Muslim leaders, the Times of London reports. "We have no choice," says one teen who was brutally raped by her husband. As a result, fistula—a hole torn between the vagina and bladder or rectum during childbirth—and maternal death are common.

Young girls are the most frequent sufferers. Many are incontinent and sent away from their homes. "The woman ends up crippled for life: medically, socially, mentally, and emotionally," says a doctor who repairs the condition. Half of the country's states have adopted a 2003 law banning marriage under age 18, but the Muslim north resists. "In the Koran there is no specific age of marriage," says a cleric.

http://www.newser.com/story/43860/nigeria-struggles-to-protect-child-brides.html

alexis:
@Beaf,

Never knew python was 100% web based - have you used python? Python is used in so many fields i.e. animation - check out blender, pixar uses it for a couple of their 3D movies. Companies simulate biomolecules with Python. Python powers some of the biggest networking systems in banks.

What do you mean when you say python is not low level - please give me an example. I never knew Python is on it's way out due to Ruby - I imagined that headline was written in a newspaper or report we don't have links to.

PHP is a language dedicated for one purpose and it's good at it - building web apps.

Damn! . . .These were my exact words "PHP and Python are [b]almost [/b]100% web based". Some "programmers" sha.
Attention to detail is extremely important in our field. Also, find out the background / built in capabilities of both Python and and Ruby and raw facts will fairly jump at you

@Other nay sayers
I say it again (with added emphasis); some languages are "toys". Simple example, C# can do everything that JavaScript can do; JavaScript can only do a fraction of what C# can do (e.g. ever heard of pure sockets in Javascript? Even worse dissassembling PE Files with Javascript?). Oh yes! Just before you jump around screaming "I got the basta'rd, there's a hole in his argument!", C# can also be used as a scripting language. Damn!
For the purposes of the current topic, it is easy to see how Javascript would be a toy for the hacker who wants to deal with desktop systems and networks.

It is common to find folk here claiming that languages don't make a difference, its somehow all down to the developer; well, thats how we separate the "he men" from the kids. Those people don't know what they are talking about. Has any self respecting hacker ever attempted any serious kernel stuff in pure Python or Ruby? Or do they have to call in the heavy lifters in asm, C and C++ or compile C#/VB.NET to assembler? Yes, I said "compile C#/VB.NET to assembler", that was no error.

If you ever read the novel, Roots, you'll be familiar with the saying; "the 'moto' of a man is different from that of a boy".

Of course, MOSSAD also caused the riots in Jos, as well as Boko Haram and Kala Kato. Ode!

ElRazur:
Apparently so. She is a sexist id!ot. . . that is the rumour going round.

Hey bloody coward! I'm still waiting for you here https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-383905.0.html

[size=14pt]Please, don't click that link![/size]

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Are you psychologically damaged? Why do you keep things from thread to thread? You are sick but you don't realise it.

[size=14pt]5,000 displaced after violence in Nigeria[/size]

* Death toll rises to 26, security forces patrol violence-hit areas

JOS/KANO: About 5,000 people were displaced in Nigeria as clashes between Christians and Muslims erupted in Jos, a city that saw more than 300 residents killed during a similar uprising in 2008.

Twenty-six people were dead and 69 injured as rioters burned mosques and homes, local Red Cross official Auwal Muhammad Madobi said.

He said he had no information about deaths and police officials declined to offer a count of the dead.

The rioting began Sunday, when angry Muslim youths attacked and set fire to a church, said Gregory Yenlong, a state government spokesman. Yenlong said he did not know why the young men set the blaze. “That’s what’s being investigated,” he said.

Police arrested 35 people who they suspect took part in the rioting, Yenlong said. He said at least five of the men arrested were wearing fake Nigerian military uniforms.

Nigerian security forces cordoned off the district of the city.

“We have received 16 dead bodies since yesterday. Eleven of them were buried yesterday and we are conducting a funeral for the remaining five. So far we have over 300 injured people, most of them from gunshots,” the head of the central mosque of Jos, Balarabe Dawud, told AFP. agencies

[url]http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2010\01\19\story_19-1-2010_pg7_3[/url]