₦airaland Forum

real4life:
i feel pity for people like you with loads of poo in their pants yet looking to wipe someone else's yansh.

better go and face the reality that there is a long way to go before anybody starts helping anybody in Nigeria.

@eyesonyou,
good points, i must add that our biggest problem is leadership. i cant imagine why the northern governors fail to have a 3 point agenda focusing on education, agriculture and solid minerals.

MsTom:
@beaf,

It is obvious you do not know elrazur. He argues most of the time, blindly,

bawomolo:
the USA is stretched to the point that an occupation of Nigeria is unlikely to happen.  It would take a UN coalition for the US to even consider this.

trueword:
wow. the militants have picked up the spirit of protesting. Soyinka and all the protest leaders need to find a way to get these militants to join them in their marches and mobilize them for further action because they are very unhappy with the government.

ElRazur:
You are missing the point. No surprise there.

They money, resources etc used in getting those "relief materials" can be channelled to helping Nigerians who really are in need. That is the point.

Comparing America with Nigeria is just plain silly. We are not in the same league, what they can afford to do or don't do. . . We cant. Period. So for the sake of common sense, quit comparing your toilet of a nation to America.

olabukola:
If this come from an ibo man we will call for his head. Now you are talking like them now reality check is setting in. When will my people realise that we are leaving with blood thirsty humans? Can't we have an Odua leader to liberate us from this sub zero human beings? I will come to Nigeria and take up arms am getting frustrated over on what is happening in Nigeria.

ElRazur:
Right some key word here: Common sense. Allow me to use that common sense to answer your question and point out the lack of common sense in your logic.

Kano street is popular for the beggars there. Oju'rin at Mushin is another place where there folks stay. You see, there are plenty of them like that in Lagos alone,  and many more across Nigeria. These people are not seen - even though there are there physically - because they do not have a voice. These folks live everyday without knowing where their next meal will come from etc. To even try and ask "Are Nigerians begging for food and clothing" is an insult to these kind of people and an lack of simple common sense from you.

Common sense will suggest these folks need it more. Common sense suggest Nigeria should look after these people before even thinking about trying to be a big dog outside, but clearly, your type lack the sense to see all of these.

Let me use another example that is close to home. If your dad is about to die in the village, but a fund for a particular medicine will save his life, will you (a) Scramble as fast as you can to get the fund and medicine to him or (b) Go loan your neighbour the money?

Clearly from using your logic and lack of common sense, you will go for option (b). What a good son your dad must think of you. You see, right now, those who are in need in Nigeria will feel the same way if Nigeria offers any kind of help towards Haiti. Period.

ElRazur:
Not yet. I am enjoying this spat with Beaf. He is illogical and I plan to beat him down with his own bullshi.t.

9jaganja:
Knock it off kids ,  Seriously must we always fight? I bet many of you guys would have started throwing punches if you guys were talking to yourselves like these in real dimension. Just commend the Senegalese president for a good act.

ElRazur:
Right some key word here: Common sense. Allow me to use that common sense to answer your question and point out the lack of common sense in your logic.

Kano street is popular for the beggars there. Oju'rin at Mushin is another place where there folks stay. You see, there are plenty of them like that in Lagos alone,  and many more across Nigeria. These people are not seen - even though there are there physically - because they do not have a voice. These folks live everyday without knowing where their next meal will come from etc. To even try and ask "Are Nigerians begging for food and clothing" is an insult to these kind of people and an lack of simple common sense from you.

Common sense will suggest these folks need it more. Common sense suggest Nigeria should look after these people before even thinking about trying to be a big dog outside, but clearly, your type lack the sense to see all of these.

Let me use another example that is close to home. If your dad is about to die in the village, but a fund for a particular medicine will save his life, will you (a) Scramble as fast as you can to get the fund and medicine to him or (b) Go loan your neighbour the money?

Clearly from using your logic and lack of common sense, you will go for option (b). What a good son your dad must think of you. You see, right now, those who are in need in Nigeria will feel the same way if Nigeria offers any kind of help towards Haiti. Period.

ElRazur:
Relief material usually invokes ready to eat meals, water, bedding and basic shelter -i.e tent and mosquito nets.

Now tell me how many Nigerians in Nigeria can make do with that? Millions? No?  How come we aint giving no relief materials or gesture to our own people? Does it make more sense to offer those to outsiders than people at home? Don't forget, it will cost more money to take these things down to haiti in the first place. Where is this money coming from?

Badriyyah:
Will any of you offer your HOMES to the people of Haiti If you are willing to do that, then fine, Invite them back home. But make sure you can cateer for their needs.

ElRazur:
You know, I have refrained from cutting you down to size and actually playing along with you. If you are too dimwitted to understand my points, please ask again. I have re-explained my points to you over so what is there not to understand?

Again I haven't attacked you. It is not surprising you called the slightest of "questioning your stance" as an attack. Give me a break, when I do you will know. I merely pointed in the inconsistency in your apporach. You want us to support Haiti at the expense of the internal problems we have, yet in another thread you wanted a solution to the internal problems. So pardon me for pointing it out. Surely, if you have enough grasp of how to debate, this won't be hard to comprehend? May be not.

It is strange that the Nigerian government and the African Union have not deemed it necessary to join the recsue efforts in Haiti. We urge both parties to do so.

ElRazur:
Okay. Read my arguments and points I presented to beaf. I am watching Arsenal and wont wanna keep going round in circle.

In the mean time, please specify what kind of help Nigeria as a nation should offer and I will tell you where that help can be directed in Nigeria.

Katsumoto:
If you are advocating a system based on confederation (I assume that is what you are alluding to) then that is fine. What I am against is the creation of parasitic states that would not be able to generate revenue but are instead dependent on the centre for handouts. That is the system that we currently have and it does not work. The governors, senators, etc just steal the funds sent to those states. The people in Yobe (as an example) can not complain about a lack of infrastructure because they have not contributed to the development of their state. Contrast that with California or New York where people pay taxes; they expect and demand services because they pay for it through heavy taxes.

ElRazur:
No let us concentrate on helping Haiti Red cross or military assistance will do. Don't you think?

Katsumoto:
Your suggestions are geared towards assuaging your ego. Should each zone have the same number of states? State numbers and state creation should not be based on an ethnic balancing act; it should be based on sustainable development. I couldn't care of less if there was just one state in the west as long as there was proper infrastructure and development.