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[quote author=tpia. link=topic=340820.msg4789056#msg4789056 date=1256335232]i dont see what your problem is. Actually I do, but let me act as if I dont. Instead of screaming everywhere and spoiling the thread, why not head for one of the numerous I'm-AA-with-Igbo-DNA threads and go yell your head off there. and some of the English, Scottish and Irish in the US were sold off by their relatives for whatever reason. Not to mention which part of slave raids dont you understand? Wasnt it people like you who sold off individuals from other tribes you didnt like? So all the slaves you read about were sold by their relatives?[/quote]There is no reason to head off to any thread or even accuse anyone of "spoiling" this thread. Its a free World, the most significant words on this thread were spoken by mukina who is a Sierra Leonean. The Oku see themselve as Oku and Sierra Leonean. Perhaps the denial of their original ethnicity is for reasons unspoken?People like me who sold individuals? You're funny, I am lucky and proud to belong to an ethnic group that did not take part in the slave trade. But that is beside the point, we need to do something to draw those in the diaspora closer and to atone. |
[quote author=tpia. link=topic=340820.msg4788678#msg4788678 date=1256330944]geez this bitterness and oneupmanship has eaten deep into the Nigerian psyche. See how Beaf wants to scatter the place over people recognizing their Yoruba ancestry. Is the fellow well at all? ![]() There are people of English, Scottish and Irish heritage in the US who have been there for generations. Some came as indentured labor while others came as free men. Do they have a problem with their ancestry and why should someone flog the issue the way Beaf and ikeyman are doing here? ![]() what buffoons. smh I even mentioned an Igbo girl who says her Igbo ancestors came from Sierra leone yet these two pretenders still got their panties in a twist over this matter. And anyone who wants to apologize to the descendants of the freed slaves should do so nah- is someone preventing him? ![]() There are people of diverse backgrounds in sierra leone- not only Nigerian. Other countries nationals' were also taken there.[/quote]Some topics are too important for small minded personal issues. Slavery is not an issue limited to Yoruba's. We need to deal with the past. Those of "English, Scottish and Irish heritage in the US " did not get there in boats, sold by their relatives in exchange for alcohol. |
sjeezy8:The heritage that sold them? ![]() It is a Nigerian thing. Something needs to be done to make things up properly with our folk in the diaspora. The past should never be blotted out, no matter how shameful, disgraceful or embarrassing. |
sjeezy8:The argument is that nobody from any ethnic group has the right to be proud that the Oku were originally from their ethnic group. Reason? They were sold into slavery and have survived without recompense by the now suddenly "proud" ethnic group. Someone here suggested earlier that we bury what is not and cannot be hidden; that we sold each other, wives, lovers, kids, sons etc. Let's cut out the "Yoruba" here, because the same conclusion applies to every part of Nigeria. We need to apologise to our kith and kin that were sold and we need to compensate them in some way. Ghana has done things like giving them land and their govt is engaged in several campaigns to welcome them back home. |
Adesegun. Do you really think patriotism = searching google maps? Would you like to teach Yar Adua? www.nairaland.com/attachments/180447_ROTFLMAO_gif3d0c775232c7f27cf80592785b9635b6 |
illusion2:News to me. That is another argument, but I'll edit that post. |
olafolarin:I didn't even mention east. I am from Delta state which is not in the east. Wetin east do you? You will generally find that Awo was loathed for intense tribalism everywhere outside Yoruba land. |
Why aren't these developed and the resources 100% owned by each state? Why does every state need a monthly FG stipend from monies generated in the ND? What is holding Nigeria back from developing (the million dollar question)? Someone tell me if the answer is not resource control. This is the distribution of minerals per state in Nigeria. Source: Raw Materials Research and Development Council (RMRDC), Abuja, Nigeria Abia Glass sand, limestone, salt, shale, ball clay, galena, granite, marble, laterite, bentonite, phosphate, kaolin, pyrite, feldspar, petroleum, lignite, gypsum, sphalerite, clay Adamawa Granite, clay, gypsum, limestone, uranium, kaolin, coal, trona, barite, salt, marble, magnesite, laterite Akwa Ibom Clay, glass sand, salt, silica sand, granite, coal, petroleum, natural gas, kaolin, limestone, lignite Anambra Clay, iron stone, natural gas, petroleum, sand stone, kaolin, pyrite, lignite Bauchi Kaolin, trona, gypsum, cassiterite, mica, clay, tantalite, galena, iron ore, gemstone, sphalerites, silica sand, barite, columbite, zinc, lead, muscovite, quartz, columbite, tin, glass sand, salt, monazite, feldspar, graphite, wolfram, coal, agate, tantalum, rutile, tungsten, copper, talc, ilmenite, zircon Bayelsa Salt, petroleum, natural gas, silica sand Benue Bentonite, crude salt, petroleum, limestone, glass sand Gemstone, barites, feldspar, marble, mica, silica sand, quartz, galena, lead, zinc ore, silica sand, clay, coal, gypsum, kaolin, anhydrite, calcium, sulphate, brick clay, crushed and dimension stone, fluorspar, wolframite, bauxite, shale, magnetite, ilmenite, brenite Borno Silica sand, natural salt, sapphire, topaz, mica, quartz, gypsum, uranium, iron ore, magnesite, feldspar, granite, aquamarine, nepheline, limestone, kaolin, bentonite, laterite clay, refractory clay, trona, gold, tin, potash Cross River Salt, limestone, coal, manganese, mica, ilmenite, gold, quartz, glass sand, tourmaline, petroleum, natural gas, kaolin, tin ore, mica, sharp sand, clay, spring water, salt deposits, talc, granite, galena, lead zinc, tin ore, goethite, Muscovite, uranium, barites Delta Kaolin, lateritic clay, gravel, silica sand, natural gas, petroleum, ball clay, bauxite, granite, river sand, clay, spring water Ebonyi Lead/Zinc ore, salt, limestone, ball clay, refractory clay, gypsum, granite Edo Charnockite, copper, gold, marble, granite, gypsum, petroleum, diorite, lignite, limestone, ceramic clay Ekiti Clay, charnockite, quartzite, lignite, limestone, granite, gemstone, bauxite, cassiterite, columbite, tantalite, feldspar, kaolin STATE MINERAL RESOURCES Imo Crude oil, shale, natural gas, kaolin, laterite sand, limestone, salt, marble, Jigawa Glass sand, granite, laterite clay, silica, kaolin, iron ore, quartz, potash, talc, limestone Kaduna Muscovite, granite, gold, manganese, clay, graphite, sand, zircon, kyanite, tin ore, ilmenite, gemstone, columbite Kano Clay, laterite, cassiterite, columbite, ilmenite, galena, phyrochlorite, kaolin, gemstone, silica, tin ore, monazite, wolframite, thorium, granite, hyalite, kaolin, beryl, amethyst, gold Katsina Gold, Manganese, lateritic clay, feldspar, black tourmaline, amethyst, quartz, kaolin, mica, gypsum, silimanite, clay, granite sand, uranium, asbestos, tourmaline, serpentine (chresolite asbestos), chromites, ilmenite, diamond, graphite, iron ore, potash, silica sand Kebbi Salt, iron ore, gold, feldspar, limestone, quartz, bauxitic clay, manganese, kaolin, mica Kogi Clay, iron ore, gemstone, marble, limestone, feldspar, dolomite, phosphate, mica, cassiterite, granite, ornamental stone, coal, kaolin Kwara Clay, kaolin, silica sand, quartz, dolomite, marble, feldspar, gold, tantalite, cassiterite, granite, limestone Lagos Silica sand, bitumen, sharp sand, gravel, petroleum, laterite Nassarawa Cassiterite, gemstone, amethyst, beryl, chrysolite, emerald, garnet, sapphire, topaz, barites, galena, monazite, zircon, glass sand, coal Niger Ball clay, kaolin, limestone, granite, glass sand, iron ore, red clay, feldspar, gold, graphite, cyanite, silica sand, quartz, asbestos, marble, talc, gemstone Ogun Kaolin, feldspar, silica sand, mica, granite, clay, phosphate, gypsum, limestone, quartz, tar sand Ondo Marble, gold, gemstone, clay, diorite, lignite Osun Clay, granite, talc, dolomite, ilmenite, feldspar, quartz, limestone, mica, clay Oyo Clay, feldspar, granite, ilmenite, iron ore, kaolin, quartz, talc, marble, dolomite, tourmaline, aquamarine, amethyst Plateau Monazite, columbite, feldspar, clay, cassiterite, gemstone, kaolin, dolomite, mica, zircon, marble, ilmenite, barites, quartz, talc, galena Rivers Petroleum, natural gas, silica sand, glass sand, clay Sokoto Silica sand, clay, salt, limestone, phosphate, gypsum, kaolin, laterite, potash, granite Enugu Lateritic clay, crude oil, kaolinitic clay, ball clay, iron-ore, glass sand, petroleum, gypsum, coal, silica sand, ceramic clay FCT – Abuja Kaolin, limestone, granite, marble, feldspar, mica, dolomite, clay, sand, talc Gombe Graphite, kaolin, limestone, silica sand, uranium, coal, halites, clay, gypsum, diatomite, granite Taraba Fluorspar, garnet, tourmaline, sapphire, zircon, tantalite, columbite, cassiterite, barite, galena, gypsum, limestone, laterite, calcite, bauxite, magnetite, pyrite, lead/zinc ore Yobe Salt, trona, diatomite, clay, gypsum, kaolin, silica sand, limestone, epsomite, iron ore, trona, shale, uranium, granite, bentonitic clay Zamfara Gold, Alluvial gold, granite, chromites, charnockite, clay, feldspar, spring water |
mukina2:I hear you my dear. |
mukina2:Tell them my sister. @knowall Thats from a Sierra Leonean. What part of your forlorn argument is left? Both the moral and tribalistic angles have been neutered. |
KnowAll:Why do you continue talking stupidly, do you really have to? So acknowledging the part we played in slavery is derogatory to our victims? No wonder your user id is "knowall"; you know what they say about fools. . . I have acknowledged that we must share the shame of the predicament placed on the blacks in the diaspora. I really want to refrain from calling people like you who see nothing wrong with selling their own into slavery, beasts. |
KnowAll:This is why I keep calling you FOOL. My wife and inlaws are all from the diaspora. . . And I am still alive and kicking your stupid tribalist butt! Whenever I visit, we talk freely; most times on mundane issues, but a lot of the time about black issues, slavery etc. Cowards die many times. There is nothing the diaspora wants more than to be hugged and embraced by their own. Do you see the amount of bad blood from Akata's in the "Racism, Tribalism, Sectarianism" section? There is a mixture of loss, anger and nostalgia, a hole in place of their historical identity. But they only have FOOL's like you to be proud of, isn't it? |
@kobojunjie You keep commenting on other peoples states. Do you have a state? Whats the name of your state? |
This slavery issue is something I feel quite strongly about. I opened a topic to discuss it in the tribalism section, but everyone feels it is to uncomfortable to talk about it https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-331554.0.html. Every topic is too uncomfortable until some clown romantises it with their bleeping ethnicity, no matter how fu.cked up the "romantic" story is. They would rather insult Akata's for either rejecting us or lacking any interest. Every adult needs to be grown up enough to deal with their baggage. And slavery is our collective baggage, deal with it. |
salsera:I never said any such thing. [size=14pt]This is what I am saying; we should be ashamed, we should bury our heads in shame, we sold them, we have nothing to offer them as compensation - not even an apology.[/size] Instead of claiming some stupid cultural "strength" or "Virgin Island" bullshit, we should be constructive on what we should do about our own in the diaspora. I have given Ghana as an example enough times on this thread, enquire and find out how many programmes they have, how much land they have set aside etc. Instead what we have on this thread is the glorification of brutishness. |
Kobojunkie:Can you do the same laughable thing for your own state to? Thats if it aint "Columbus Ohio". ![]() |
^Is the from Alhaji from ex-slave stock? If he isn't, then you can be proud. If he is, then you need your tribalist brain checked. |
^Nah, you don't. I've already seen you make assumptions. |
simplychic:Another FOOL. I am not Igbo. I don't even care where these people come from. One shameful fact remains; they were sold into slavery by their own. Period! |
KnowAll:[size=21pt]The creoles were sold by their own people into slavery. They were treacherously rejected by own their blood.[/size] Instead of acknowledging that disgraceful fact, bleeping tribalists like yourself are only interested in the ethnicity they were before they became creole. Some are even talking of the "strength" of culture. Is treachery a strength these days? Man, you guy's make me want to throw up! They aren't part of any Nigerian ethnic group right now, they were rejected; leave them to be what they are. Don't make up rubbish and disgraceful stories. Look at what Ghana is doing: Nevertheless, thousands of African-Americans already live here at least part of the year, said Valerie Papaya Mann, president of the African American Association of Ghana.http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/27/international/africa/27ghana.html Do you think any of our blood in the diaspora consider Nigeria to be their ancestral home? No, they don't; all of them feel closer to Ghana. Nigeria can only offer them the unfortunate words and thoughts of FOOLs like yourself. |
^We've been listening, appreciating, respecting and regressing for 49 years. Boko Haram was this year, not so? The Niger Delta crisis is ongoing as well. 49 years after "independence", the country has no source of income outside oil. 49 years after "independence", the vast majority fill shortchanged. No way! Landscape don change. ![]() |
KnowAll:This is all the more reason, you are a FOOL. How do you think both Saro's and Akata's view your pride in the fact that they were sold into slavery? You don't even think it is immoral, what a damaged soul! The only thing that bothers you is their ethnicity, disgusting! I really wash my hands of such a display of wickedness and mental retardation. |
KnowAll:Isn't there a time to stop arguing (especially when you've stopped making sense)? Abolitionist's hijacked ships? Ode!Do you think Nova Scotia is somewhere near Ibadan? Okpe mumu! If the abolitionist's captured (not "hijacked" a slaving ship, does this somehow mean that by some miracle, those on board were not sold by their kith and kin for mirrors and gin?After 1121 posts (no doubt of really stupid quality), you still don't know how to use the "insert quote" button? Talk about being dense. |
Seriously. Not including a source deters people from commenting. No reader needs to take pains to verify stories. http://www.saharareporters.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4040:-certificate-forgery-scandal-latest-court-orders-police-to-investigate-customs-boss-abdullahi-dikko-report-asap&catid=1:latest-news&Itemid=18 |
^You are just bloody ignorant. The Sierra Leone Creole (or Krios) are an ethnic group in Sierra Leone, they are descendants of West Indian slaves from the Caribbean, primarily ( from Jamaica) and freed African American slaves from the United States[1], which landed in Freetown between 1787 and 1855 (or possibly as late as 1860).[1] . Sierra Leone's capital Freetown was founded by the British as a settle for the Krios in 1787. They make up about 5.8% of the Sierra Leone's total population (about 377,003 people), and they live primarily in the capital Freetown and its surrounding Western Area.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sierra_Leone_Creole_people |
@Duduknight Diplomacy has little value in today's Nigeria. Landscape don change. ![]() |
@KnowAll Ok, they are bleeping Yoruba or whatever. Does that take from the issue that there is nothing here to be proud of? For goodness sake, these people where sold into slavery! |
These people are not even Yoruba. They are the descendants of slaves and their language is a mixture of various West African languages. [size=21pt]What is wrong with Nigerians? This is a sickening disgrace![/size] Little Ghana has long since done a lot to welcome back those that they sold into slavery. Here, fools are talking about the "strength" of their culture. What strength? Selling your blood? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sierra_Leone_Creole_people |
You think you're the mystery man of maps dodging in and out of satellites in space while the FBI, CIA, M15 and maybe MOSSAD are after you. www.nairaland.com/attachments/180447_ROTFLMAO_gif3d0c775232c7f27cf80592785b9635b6www.nairaland.com/attachments/180447_ROTFLMAO_gif3d0c775232c7f27cf80592785b9635b6www.nairaland.com/attachments/180447_ROTFLMAO_gif3d0c775232c7f27cf80592785b9635b6 [size=15pt]Becomerich get medical help, fast! You've got mental health issues, big time![/size] |
@vangogh The Iraq invasion of Iran occurred less than a year after the embassy employees were taken hostage. At least one observer (Stephen Kinzer) believes the dramatic change of US-Iranian relations from ally to enemy played a part in emboldening Saddam Hussein to invade, and US anger with Iran led the US to aid Iraq after the war turned against Iraq. The US supplied Iraq with, among other things, "helicopters and satellite intelligence that was used in selecting bombing targets".[109] In turn, this aid and the shooting down of Iran Air Flight 655 in the Persian Gulf by the USS Vincennes "deepened and widened anti-American feeling in Iran."[110]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_hostage_crisis#Iran.E2.80.93Iraq_War Charlie, you didn't even scan the article, you're just angling for showdown sha. It is in nobodys interest to take energy resources of the map. There are usually more powerful forces at play when oil producing countries go to war. |
vangogh:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_hostage_crisis |
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So all the slaves you read about were sold by their relatives?[/quote]There is no reason to head off to any thread or even accuse anyone of "spoiling" this thread. Its a free World, the most significant words on this thread were spoken by mukina who is a Sierra Leonean. The Oku see themselve as Oku and Sierra Leonean. Perhaps the denial of their original ethnicity is for reasons unspoken?
You're funny, I am lucky and proud to belong to an ethnic group that did not take part in the slave trade. But that is beside the point, we need to do something to draw those in the diaspora closer and to atone.



a slaving ship, does this somehow mean that by some miracle, those on board were not