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Bennyboy11:
You make a very very valid point. But let me play devils advocate for a second. Most other species have varied intelligence depending on what they are. For instance dogs are not equally intelligent, different types of dogs have different levels of intelligence. Certain dogs are easier to train by police for detecting explosives for instance because they are more intelligent and that way inclined. It's the same with birds and other animals.

Why is it necessarily different for the human race?

Its simple. There can be more variation within a single family (small noses, height, weight, skin color etc) than the so called differences between "races" (usually colour and body part shape); but the relative intelligence of family members is not dependent on any of those variations.

You mentioned dogs. They are deliberately bred for certain characteristics, something similar happens with the offspring of two intelligent humans; say for example, two professors. They tend to be as intelligent  or more intelligent than their parents.

As to most species having varied intelligence, the ratio's are the same for all races. That leaves any gaps to environment / culture and suppport / upbringing,

pcicero:
@Beaf
Not so, growing up in Ajegunle or Asokoro has nothing to do with intelligence except you also want to believe in racial superiority. A child may grow up in a library and refuse to read books. There are people with humble backgrounds who have made it to the very tops. Those with privileged background may only have more windows of opportunities to express themselves.

A child raised in the roughest parts of Ajegunle is likely to lack the nutrition and other tools to build their intelligence to full potential.
It is a well known (even if unpalatable) fact that social class affects intelligence.

Duduknight:
There is a difference between intelligence and brilliance. There are intelligent and unintelligent people within each race. A boy living in Ajegunle may have poorer educational results than a boy in Asokoro but only their inherent abilities can distinguish between their intelligence. So the boy in Ajegunle can be more intelligent than the boy in Asokoro.

I agree with this. You can display intelligence within an environment you are accustomed to and stupidity in an alien environment.

So don't you think that a child who might be lacking the necessary nutrients for proper growth and development might have their intelligence impaired by the same factors? Intelligence might be innate, but it needs to be nurtured otherwise, it falls way below expectation.

^
To be honest, you only display the IQ of a little fish.

You sound like someone with zero home training, I pray that one day you too will have a family and know about it.

Bennyboy11:
What do you mean race is nothing but a social construct? and is there a relationship between race and genetics?

Some people have big noses and small heads. . . that is genetics. People with big noses and small heads are not more (or less) intelligent than the rest of the population.
However, a child growing up in the wilds of Ajegunle is very very unlikely to grow up as intelligent as one who has grown up in Asokoro, Abuja.

Nigerians live in a very harsh environment where people shout for joy at the resumption of electricity supply after a break lasting hours, days, even months. What do you expect from people reduced to an animal existence?

Isu ata:
i will reserve some of my comments for now and dwell on emotions

ikeyman,beaf

did yu guys decide to deliberately forget about the incisve comments of sjeezy on some past pages.just becos of the need to pass senseless opinions yu guys decide to see rison
i bow for una o!

why wld mukina claim to be Yoruba wen her ancestors were neva called yorubas, as sjeezy sed,its a word coined out by the british and ofcourse you beaf decide to forget about his comment dat wia the ooni of IFE has been visiting b4 and stopped as a result of illness, shldnt that reduce yur non-assimilation claims against wu eva yu re refferring
and besides.does the poster look like an authority figure in yoruba land dat yu try to batter so much as if hes family is responsible for apologizing to the creoles and assimilating dem.\hes thread ws of discovery not of repatriation.I wonder wot efforts yu av done to do dis yurself,
i bow for u o!

Why does it take so many sentences to step on your own tongue? But not much can expected from someone who cannot tell where texting can be sensibly employed.

Who cares whether those folk are from Mars?
The simple facts are:
[list]
[li]They were sold[/li]
[li]They were sent into the unknown where they might easily have died (four million African deaths are estimated to have died in the Middle Passage)[/li]
[li]They have survived by their own strength or the strength of foreigners (certainly not ours)[/li]
[li]All the time they were "lost", we never went looking for them[/li]
[li]Now that they have been "found", we are not compensating them (not even with a little land like Ghana has done)[/li]
[/list]

Maybe, the above is not both wicked and disgraceful to some, but it is to me. Something very concrete needs to be done before we can begin to point at those that "belong" to us, because we rejected them to a wretched fate. If any Oku or other Creole traces their roots back to Nigeria, it is for us to do the right thing.

[size=14pt]Why do we stupidly think that the obvious can be brushed under the carpet? We need to prostrate ourselves, ask forgiveness and cleanse the land.[/size]

Slavery is equivalent to ritual sacrifice; in many ways, even worse.

sjeezy8:
lol you people are still arguing
There are igbo creole, yoruba creoles, ghanian etc, creoles are a mixture of whether cultural, race or tribe wise.
ALOT OF YORUBAS ARE TECHNICALLY MIXED but
In yorubaland theres no such thing as being "mixed" or "half". That is why yoruba and other oduduwas have always conquered and expanded their boundaries staying with one identitity( coming from oduduwa).

The ONLY thing that differs yorubas(oduduwas) from others is they're often boisterous about their origin. This could be due to the fact there's no such thing as "half", this mentality back then may have prohibited yorubas( other oduduwa people) from being "bred" out like others.

wassup with this beaf guy trying to cause division in yorubas- HES WANTS TO YORUBA I THINK lmfao

Sounds almost like Goebbels. Shudders.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Goebbels

mbulela:
thanks for the correction but i'll rather sound like Sanusi than sound like Akingbola.
on a different note,let me know the basis of your argument (if you have one),that the facts as it concerns the borrowings of Intercontinental,Oceanic and Finbank from the interbank and CBN are the figment of Sanusi's imagination or that these banks were not grossly overexposed with none performing questionable loans while indulging in frivolities like buying jets and all sorts?
you have not exhibited any objectvity in your cases.you are simply wiping up porly thought out emotions.

But that is exactly why there are courts. To dig out the truth, backed by expertise; not rumour, innuendo and Sanusi's allegations. Courts can test beyond mere words or street knowledge.
If we go Sanusi's route, we might as well sit area boys, alaye's and agbero's in judgement over the bank CEO's. No?

mbulela:
so we should wait for court cases that will drag on for over 3 years while the bank is unable to meet its obligations and the CEOs live like kings and queens while telling us it a result of hard work and God's grace?
do you know that Oceanic had the effrontery to attempt to pay dividends while borrowing billions on a regular basis in the inter bank market?

see Andy Uba is still in court 4 years after Obi's swearing in.is that how long you want us to wait before booting out these crooks?
can you comfortably tell that to depositors and shareholders in that bank?

Ehn! We are not in a dictatorship. The law must run its cause. Why should we regress to the jungle?

Followers either become like their leaders or die of hunger. Only the exceptional can escape the twin evils.

puskin:
. . .cos of the court ruling in Awka, Enugu and Abuja.
But this INEC ppl are dunces. Don't they understand what "interim injunction pending the determination of the suit" means.

Na so we see our democracy sha. "Imposed on the people, not for the people, not by the people."

This is very different from the usual FG ownership.

Byline: CARMEN GENTILE

Russian energy firm Gazprom has signed an agreement with the New Nigeria Development Co. for exploration of three oil blocks in the country's north, officials from both countries said.

Though rights to the blocks in the Chad Basin and Benue Trough were first acquired by Gazprom in 2005, the company has taken its time in entering the often volatile oil and gas sector beset by violence from militant groups and armed gangs.

Gazprom is also reportedly set to sign a gas exploration deal with NNDC worth $2.5 billion, Nigerian energy officials said.

"We are going to assist you develop your oil blocks through Gazprom, which is the biggest natural gas company in the world," said Russian Ambassador to Nigeria Alexander Polyakov, who added that the Russian energy giant was intent on bringing new oil and gas extraction technology to Nigeria.

This isn't the first time that Gazprom has made inroads into entering the West African oil and gas sectors in hopes of challenging longstanding players in Nigeria like Exxon Mobil, Royal Dutch Shell and Chevron.

In November 2007, Gazprom announced it was seeking additional ventures in West Africa to complement its already established relationship with Angola's state energy company, Sonangol.

http://www.accessmylibrary.com/article-1G1-196983332/analysis-russia-moves-nigeria.html

Jarus:
Immediately I saw this topic, I expected to see Becomrich as thread starter. I'm highly disappointed in beaf, who I hold in high regard, starting this kind of topic.

Thanks Jarus, I am very aware that this topic is controversial; but there are clear discrepancies that need resolving (see my last post).

deor03:
Well, i guess if the government of the ND states were serious enough, the would have formed a comnpany ( or many companies) that provide services to the oil industry in their backyard.

There is NO law stopping a state or a group of states to incorporate companies. The ODUA group is an example of a company that took advantage of what they had at that time ( cocoa) to form companies that service the cocoa industry directly and indirectly.

Most of the oil platforms used in Nigeria are Fabricated in Malaysia ( no reference), nothing stops the states from coming together to do such.

When Wilbross was going away, nothing stopped Rivers state govt from buying over and turning it into a big service company.
When the government sold license for refineries, the business oppurtunity was there for them to tap into, With the "few cups" of oil that Ogun state claims to have, they have an oil company incorporated already .
Hyundai services was a state owned company , China ( also has a state owned company) , so nothing stops the ND governors to come together to take advantage of the resources they have + the abundant human resources( N Deltans )to create state owned companies.

Enough of asking, time for the N deltans to take the bull by the horn and tap into business opportunities around them.

There are numerous indegenious ND oil and gas servicing  companies in the US, so while useful, the above is quite some way off the point. And the point is that the Northern Nigeria Development Company (NNDC) has sold oil blocks to a South African company for EXPLORATION / EXPLOITATION. Why is the ND not allowed such control? Why can't they sell to whom they want or involve any company they choose for exploration and exploitation? Why does the FG own all oil concessions in the ND? Why is it that the FG ALONE can sell an oil blocks in the ND, but it is different up North?

http://nasarawastate.org/newsday/news/economy/10808214834.html

Arkison:
@Poster,

There is difference between the existence of mineral matter and commercial viability of extracting the mineral matter.

Most of these resources sited are not commercialy extractible. Rather they exist in minute quantity and in some cases scattered quantity. Hence making developing quarries for extracting such minerals in practicable.

Another thing you should understand is that most of these states like to "show off". If you take these data from a government site, there is high possibility that they are doctored.

You should also note that, while we recognise political boundries, nature doesn't. So some of the mineral resources in 2 or 3 neighbouring states are from the same basin. Example Bauchi, nasarawa and plateau state share the same boundry, and some of the minerals found in bauchi are found in plataeu. If you go to sites where they are extracted, you will notice that they spill between the 2 states.

These are mineral deposits in commercial quantity.
The source is Raw Materials Research and Development Council Abuja. That has to be the most accurate data out there.

Every group in the ND needs to sit down and plan; not just Ijaw this, Urhobo that, Igbo and Ibibio the other etc.

We are going to be sucked dry for the Northern regions development.

@WilyWily
See this thread https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=343100.msg4801808#msg4801808

DJNiyi:
You forgot the most important resource - people

Singapore has non of the resources listed above yet has the 4th largest economy in the world measured by GDP per capita .Source.

Educated people are greatest resource of all.

But we don't have that resource. And it doesn't look like we will have it in the near future; ASUU strike just dey finish abi?
The few truely educated Nigerians ship out without fail because the country has nothing to offer. So minerals for wealth it is.

Asamoah who also said that that the north should have oil in the next one year, added that the ability to generate power is a critical component of development and that with the signing of the MoU, the north and Nigeria in general is on the right track toward development

Why is this being done by a private company formed by the Northern states. Are they different from us?

You will notice that the words "Federal Government" are missing from the article below. Instead we have "Northern Nigeria Development Company (NNDC)".
Why is it different from the south and the Niger Delta?

Chad Basin: NNDC, AFC Partner on Oil Exploration -Thisday
From Reuben Buhari in Kaduna, 07.21.2008

Northern Nigeria Development Company (NNDC) and the African Finance Corporation (AFC) have signed a Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) that will ensure full oil exploration activities around the Benue trough and the Chad basin next year.
This was disclosed when the Group Managing Director of NNDC, Alhaji Aliyu Alkali and the Executive Vice-President of AFC, Mr. Solomon Asamoah, at the weekend, signed the MoU that would ensure that the region's oil and gas reserve of more than 100 billion cubic litres is exploited.
According to the GMD of NNDC, the development of the hydrocarbon potentials of the four oil blocks the company has, OPLs 809 and 810 in the Benue trough and 722 and 733 in the Chad Basin would contribute to the growth of the oil industry in the north and Nigeria in general.
Alkali, who said that signing of the MoU would lead to the generation of 20 megawatts of electricity from the expected discovery in OPL 809 alone, before August 2010, added that a fertilizer plant and further expansion of capacity for generation of more electricity is also planned upon further discoveriy of gas in the remaining OPLs.
Giving a history of NNDC's efforts toward the exploration of oil and gas in the north, Alkali said, "in the Benue trough which is between Bauchi and Gombe states, a few wells had been drilled by multinationals from 1999 to date."
On OPL 809, he said Shell had conducted a work programme on the block and drilled one well named Kolmani River-1 in 1999. The hydrocarbon phase encountered in the well, according to him, was essentially a gas and condensates phase estimated to have minimum gas reserves of between 33 billion to 100 billion cubic feet.
He said that having been satisfied with the available reserves of hydrocarbon in the areas, the NNDC started shopping for a technical partner culminating in the signing of MoU with the AFC.
The AFC vice president, who revealed that the AFC is contributing about $50 million to the project, added that the amount would be increased as the project progresses.
Asamoah who also said that that the north should have oil in the next one year, added that the ability to generate power is a critical component of development and that with the signing of the MoU, the north and Nigeria in general is on the right track toward development

http://www.nigerianmuse.com/articles/20080723152016zg/chad_basin_nndc_afc_partner_on_oil_exploration

Ibime:
Are all these in commercial quantities abi na just wetin the States dey use pose?

They are in commercial quantity, the list is from Abuja. The bad thing is that the list incomplete.
FG has real problems when it comes to maintaining records (guess why ).
For example, in my earlier post about tantalite, I mentioned the following as states bearing the resource; Bauchi, Ekiti, Kwara and Taraba have tantalite.
Well, you will find that Gombe, Nasarawa, Kogi and FCT also have the mineral, perhaps even in greater quantity. Why is our record keeping so poor (guess why )?

Igbanibo:
Beaf,

I thought there are a couple of states up North, who are mining tantalite?

Bauchi, Ekiti, Kwara and Taraba have tantalite.

Some juicy bits about tantalite for those who don't know. . .
Tantalite is the ore for tantalum and niobium. It finds uses in exotic alloys for engines and rocket engines, superconducting materials, superconducting magnets of MRI scanners, capacitors etc. Tantalum is also used as a platinum substitute.

In short, its a valuable mineral to have.

puskin:
I thought some states were economically unviable, now I know better. Thanks.

But b4 saying Yes to resource control, all the mineral resources in the various states should be developed 2a certain extent similar to that of the oil industry.

Saying YES to resource control means you have to say YES to the following:
- YES to state police.
- YES to the abrogation of the Land Use Act.
- YES to FOI bill.

Will those states hoping to develop their resources of the back of the ND pay some sort of compensation? It would be unjust not to do so. One way for other areas to develop would be for the various states to obtain loans from the ND or give shares to the ND (both possible only in a true federation).
The other things you mentioned are easily achievable in a true federal system. We are really shooting ourselves in the foot by sticking to the current rubbish arrangement.

Who cares?
You can't even engage your brain to understand that Benin Republic is named after Benin City and most (if not all) of their rulers have Edo ancestry. Even their former name, Dahomey is named after an Edo man (Isi Dahomen).
You think your beloved Yoruba people would be happy to be under Edo people? Ode.

A state like Benue can very easily feed itself and the whole nation. Aside from rich soils, it is also blessed with the following;

Bentonite, crude salt, petroleum, limestone, glass sand, gemstone, barites, feldspar, marble, mica, silica sand, quartz, galena, lead, zinc ore, silica sand, clay, coal, gypsum, kaolin, anhydrite, calcium, sulphate, brick clay, crushed and dimension stone, fluorspar, wolframite, bauxite, shale, magnetite, ilmenite, brenite.

You would think harnessing our resources was a no brainer, but the fact is that the vast majority of people do not even know that any minerals exist in their states.
What exactly is wrong with the country that we don't seem to think right and everything is done upside down? Is it a curse? Is it Karma?

[quote author=becomrich, link=topic=342393.msg4799722#msg4799722 date=1256517921]If you think I am boro haram. you would be shock. THEY EDIT NAIRALAND.

really it is only a stupid and uneducated person from the yorubas, edo, delta and bayelsa state that would not want them to join benin republic.

Go to the ministry of finance website and do calculation of how much the 11 state get from oil. you would see it is less than 30% of the oil money , we recieve at the moment.

The projection shows a better future in the New republic of Benin than Nigeria. And a good economy. Even we would  be able  to double the budget in less than 5 years.

We do not need the rest of Nigeria to keep our economy running. with the 30% of oil. would make the difference of 20% in non oil revenue.

Our projection for investment is better than nigeria. we would be a risk free environment.[/quote]"boro haram" edits NL ehn?
Damn!

[quote author=becomrich, link=topic=342393.msg4799699#msg4799699 date=1256517420]beaf, boro haram my foot. I am an engineer.

It is about wisdom my friend. Wise people do not get themself shoot over nothing.[/quote]Adesegun, is it "google maps engineering"?

www.nairaland.com/attachments/180447_ROTFLMAO_gif3d0c775232c7f27cf80592785b9635b6

Yes, your state is rich!
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6f/Brillanten.jpg/240px-Brillanten.jpg
No state needs monthly FG pocket money. Every state is potentially rich, but as usual, ignorance is killing the masses, while a few are stealing the rest of us blind.
The answer for every state is resource control. Industries and human resources can be developed around the natural riches in every state, but will the thieves allow us?

This is the distribution of minerals per state in Nigeria.
Source: Raw Materials Research and Development Council (RMRDC), Abuja, Nigeria

Abia
Glass sand, limestone, salt, shale, ball clay, galena, granite, marble, laterite, bentonite, phosphate, kaolin, pyrite, feldspar, petroleum, lignite, gypsum, sphalerite, clay

Adamawa
Granite, clay, gypsum, limestone, uranium, kaolin, coal, trona, barite, salt, marble, magnesite, laterite

Akwa Ibom
Clay, glass sand, salt, silica sand, granite, coal, petroleum, natural gas, kaolin, limestone, lignite

Anambra
Clay, iron stone, natural gas, petroleum, sand stone, kaolin, pyrite, lignite

Bauchi
Kaolin, trona, gypsum, cassiterite, mica, clay, tantalite, galena, iron ore, gemstone, sphalerites, silica sand, barite, columbite, zinc, lead, muscovite, quartz, columbite, tin, glass sand, salt, monazite, feldspar, graphite, wolfram, coal, agate, tantalum, rutile, tungsten, copper, talc, ilmenite, zircon

Bayelsa
Salt, petroleum, natural gas, silica sand

Benue
Bentonite, crude salt, petroleum, limestone, glass sand
Gemstone, barites, feldspar, marble, mica, silica sand, quartz, galena, lead, zinc ore, silica sand, clay, coal, gypsum, kaolin, anhydrite, calcium, sulphate, brick clay, crushed and dimension stone, fluorspar, wolframite, bauxite, shale, magnetite, ilmenite, brenite

Borno
Silica sand, natural salt, sapphire, topaz, mica, quartz, gypsum, uranium, iron ore, magnesite, feldspar, granite, aquamarine, nepheline, limestone, kaolin, bentonite, laterite clay, refractory clay, trona, gold, tin, potash

Cross River
Salt, limestone, coal, manganese, mica, ilmenite, gold, quartz, glass sand, tourmaline, petroleum, natural gas, kaolin, tin ore, mica, sharp sand, clay, spring water, salt deposits, talc, granite, galena, lead zinc, tin ore, goethite,
Muscovite, uranium, barites

Delta
Kaolin, lateritic clay, gravel, silica sand, natural gas, petroleum, ball clay, bauxite, granite, river sand, clay, spring water

Ebonyi
Lead/Zinc ore, salt, limestone, ball clay, refractory clay, gypsum, granite

Edo
Charnockite, copper, gold, marble, granite, gypsum, petroleum, diorite, lignite, limestone, ceramic clay

Ekiti
Clay, charnockite, quartzite, lignite, limestone, granite, gemstone, bauxite, cassiterite, columbite, tantalite, feldspar, kaolin

STATE
MINERAL RESOURCES

Imo
Crude oil, shale, natural gas, kaolin, laterite sand, limestone, salt, marble,

Jigawa
Glass sand, granite, laterite clay, silica, kaolin, iron ore, quartz, potash, talc, limestone

Kaduna
Muscovite, granite, gold, manganese, clay, graphite, sand, zircon, kyanite, tin ore, ilmenite, gemstone, columbite

Kano
Clay, laterite, cassiterite, columbite, ilmenite, galena, phyrochlorite, kaolin, gemstone, silica, tin ore, monazite, wolframite, thorium, granite, hyalite, kaolin, beryl, amethyst, gold

Katsina
Gold, Manganese, lateritic clay, feldspar, black tourmaline, amethyst, quartz, kaolin, mica, gypsum, silimanite, clay, granite sand, uranium, asbestos, tourmaline, serpentine (chresolite asbestos), chromites, ilmenite, diamond, graphite, iron ore, potash, silica sand

Kebbi
Salt, iron ore, gold, feldspar, limestone, quartz, bauxitic clay, manganese, kaolin, mica

Kogi
Clay, iron ore, gemstone, marble, limestone, feldspar, dolomite, phosphate, mica, cassiterite, granite, ornamental stone, coal, kaolin

Kwara
Clay, kaolin, silica sand, quartz, dolomite, marble, feldspar, gold, tantalite, cassiterite, granite, limestone

Lagos
Silica sand, bitumen, sharp sand, gravel, petroleum, laterite

Nassarawa
Cassiterite, gemstone, amethyst, beryl, chrysolite, emerald, garnet, sapphire, topaz, barites, galena, monazite, zircon, glass sand, coal

Niger
Ball clay, kaolin, limestone, granite, glass sand, iron ore, red clay, feldspar, gold, graphite, cyanite, silica sand, quartz, asbestos, marble, talc, gemstone

Ogun
Kaolin, feldspar, silica sand, mica, granite, clay, phosphate, gypsum, limestone, quartz, tar sand

Ondo
Marble, gold, gemstone, clay, diorite, lignite

Osun
Clay, granite, talc, dolomite, ilmenite, feldspar, quartz, limestone, mica, clay

Oyo
Clay, feldspar, granite, ilmenite, iron ore, kaolin, quartz, talc, marble, dolomite, tourmaline, aquamarine, amethyst

Plateau
Monazite, columbite, feldspar, clay, cassiterite, gemstone, kaolin, dolomite, mica, zircon, marble, ilmenite, barites, quartz, talc, galena

Rivers
Petroleum, natural gas, silica sand, glass sand, clay

Sokoto
Silica sand, clay, salt, limestone, phosphate, gypsum, kaolin, laterite, potash, granite

Enugu
Lateritic clay, crude oil, kaolinitic clay, ball clay, iron-ore, glass sand, petroleum, gypsum, coal, silica sand, ceramic clay

FCT – Abuja
Kaolin, limestone, granite, marble, feldspar, mica, dolomite, clay, sand, talc

Gombe
Graphite, kaolin, limestone, silica sand, uranium, coal, halites, clay, gypsum, diatomite, granite

Taraba
Fluorspar, garnet, tourmaline, sapphire, zircon, tantalite, columbite, cassiterite, barite, galena, gypsum, limestone, laterite, calcite, bauxite, magnetite, pyrite, lead/zinc ore

Yobe
Salt, trona, diatomite, clay, gypsum, kaolin, silica sand, limestone, epsomite, iron ore, trona, shale, uranium, granite, bentonitic clay

Zamfara
Gold, Alluvial gold, granite, chromites, charnockite, clay, feldspar, spring water

I wonder. . .
Is Sanusi not guilty of quite a few crimes now? It will be really interesting when and how he leaves office.

The man says one thing today and the opposite tomorrow; he prints 420 billion big ones without asking anybody; he unilaterally declares that shareholders have lost their money without a word from any legal body; then he wants to summarily shoot ex bank CEO's. . .

We are witnessing illiteracy of gargantuan proportions. Yes, a graduate "scholar" can be an illiterate!

Atiku, Bafarawa and Buhari = Northern oligarchy = more helpings of the same old shit

[quote author=tpia. link=topic=342715.msg4799534#msg4799534 date=1256513329]I know he's Ijaw but where does he get his "white" look from.[/quote]I don't know, but I guess its from a genetic throwback. Because, his mother seems to be Ijaw as well.

Is there any Bayelsan in the house to throw more light on this?

[quote author=tpia. link=topic=342715.msg4799428#msg4799428 date=1256511309]Ben Murray Bruce: non-black heritage unknown:[/quote]Ben Bruce is Ijaw from Akassa, Bayelsa State.

[quote author=becomrich, link=topic=342393.msg4795376#msg4795376 date=1256447065]aloy emeka, i am yoruba nigerian, and i have never lived in benin republic.[/quote]Adesegun, you belong to the Beninoise version of Boko Haram.

The Ogboru's are a very successful and exposed ND family that had a fundermental understanding of issues long before the average Nigerian caught on. They are all very humble folk.

They did their best to right things in our "federation" and almost succeeded. Their coup attempt was very intelligently put together, almost like something from a James Bond movie. From the way Saliba Mukoro's "security" outfit was used to the importation of peugeot j5 vans for the "fish company" in Ikorodu; all because there was no real ND presense in the armed forces. It shows that we can all make changes if we put ourselves to it; no mountain is too big.