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Politics › Re: Race And Intelligence by Beaf: 8:51pm On Oct 28, 2009
morpheus24:
Are you speaking of Genetic makeup?

http://www.genetichealth.com/G101_Changes_in_DNA.shtml

DNA mutates which is why we can link/determine why an east African carries a different mutation of a specific gene from a West african even though both are derived from the same parent. E.g the E halpgroup YChromosone Gene which is present in both groups are mutated Differently  as E3a for West Africans  and E3b or E3b1b1 for east Africans.

What a species deems as a "pronounced" Negative mutation will be left to die off. Its allthe same DNA change is DNA mutation. Mutation is generally used in a bad connotation.
No. I think that variations only occur within allele frequencies. So the gene is already present as an allele, it doesn't get made into something brand new.
Small print: I don't believe there is enough evidence for Darwinian evolution.
Politics › Re: Race And Intelligence by Beaf: 7:48pm On Oct 28, 2009
^
Species do not change due to genetic mutation. In nature, mutants or anything slightly different are either killed or left to die. The species must propagate.
Mutation generally represents death in other ways as well, eg cancerous growths.

Species can change slowly over time by selection of specific sets of genes due to environmental circumstances.
Politics › Re: Make Your Predictions On Nigeria's Future by Beaf: 7:39pm On Oct 28, 2009
2011 is around the corner. shocked embarassed

Pray, buy canned food, oil, toilet rolls, torch lights, batteries and lanterns. Stock up on fuel. . . Protect your loved ones with one of these

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/8e/Marlin1894C.jpg

Ask Soludo about the warm up embarassed
Politics › Re: Why Does The Rail Modernisation Project Exclude The South-East And The South-South? by Beaf: 4:40pm On Oct 28, 2009
ezeagu:
Wasn't Dahomey named Benin because it was on the Bight of Benin?
ezeagu:
Whats the argument and ? does it have to do with D topic?
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Politics › Re: Why Does The Rail Modernisation Project Exclude The South-East And The South-South? by Beaf: 4:34pm On Oct 28, 2009
More from the Erelu kuti Foundation http://www.eraffoundation.org/erelukuti.php

More from Lagos Mega City website http://lagosmegacityproject.com/history_of_lagos

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Politics › Re: Why Does The Rail Modernisation Project Exclude The South-East And The South-South? by Beaf: 4:24pm On Oct 28, 2009
[quote author=tpia. link=topic=343963.msg4816828#msg4816828 date=1256741390]lagos was a slave port, and not this story you're cooking up here.

True, there was interaction between Benin, Dahomey and Ghana, hence Lagos was a desirable prize for all three.

The Portuguese established slave ports all along the west African coast, and lagos was one of them.

Dahomey means In Da's belly.[/quote]Past Obas (Kings)
Main article: Oba of Lagos
Ashipa (1600-1630) died on the way back to Benin shocked shocked shocked
King Ado (1630-1669) first King of Lagos
King Gabaro (1669-1704)
King Akinsemoyin (1704-1749)
Eletu Kekere (1749)
King Ologun Kutere (1749-1775)
Adele Ajosun (1775-1780 & 1832-1834)
Eshilokun (1780-1819)
Oba Idewu Ojulari (1819-1832)
King Oluwole (1836-1841)
King Akintoye (1841-1845 & 1851-1853)
Oba Kosoko (1845-1851)
King Dosunmu [Docemo] (1853-1885)
Oba Oyekan (1885-1900)
Oba Esugbayi Eleko (1901-1925 & 1932)
Oba Ibikunle Akitoye (1925-1928)
Oba Sanusi Olusi (1928-1931)
Oba Falolu (1932-1949)
Oba Adeniji Adele (1949-1964)
Oba Adeyinka Oyekan II (1965-2003)
Oba Rilwan Akiolu (2003-present)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Lagos

More from Lagos Mega City website http://lagosmegacityproject.com/history_of_lagos
Politics › Re: Why Does The Rail Modernisation Project Exclude The South-East And The South-South? by Beaf: 3:44pm On Oct 28, 2009
sjeezy8:
lets not derail the thread
Those who pee on their past always get shy when found out. Thats life. cool

I remember you calling ND and Igbo people monkeys. Ask your dad, your blood could be from the ND. Ignorant little fu.ckwit.
Politics › Re: Why Does The Rail Modernisation Project Exclude The South-East And The South-South? by Beaf: 3:27pm On Oct 28, 2009
Lagos was a part of the Edo empire. It founded as an army garrison to oversee the Republic of Benin (named after Benin City, Togo and some Ghanaian areas).
Isn't it interesting that the Republic of Benin is named after Benin City? Even its former name, Dahomey was the name of an Edo General (Isi Dahomen), he was Ishan.

The Oba of Lagos is descended from Benin. Even today, the Oba of Benin still sends Chiefs to crown any new Oba of Lagos.
Almost all chieftancy customs etc have Edo origins.

Even "Eko" is an Edo word.
Politics › Re: Why Does The Rail Modernisation Project Exclude The South-East And The South-South? by Beaf: 3:15pm On Oct 28, 2009
sjeezy8:
Maybe you should think before you type. The governments of eastern and southern states should build their OWN railways MEANING privately funded. Private investors as Lagos state did.
Don't bring Lagos here. People are stealing your money under your noses, planting a few flowers; yet, the blind and dim ones like you have set up a personality cult. All they have to say is "public - private partnership" and a lot of folk look at the growing flowers and turn stupid.
Politics › Re: Why Does The Rail Modernisation Project Exclude The South-East And The South-South? by Beaf: 3:10pm On Oct 28, 2009
It is easy to solve a lot of the transort / business issues in that area.
Delta state needs to expand Warri port with a state funded wing and totally open up state funded routes between Asaba and Warri.
There is also no reason why smaller vessels cannot berth at Asaba.
Anambra and Delta can cooperate to build another bridge to span the Niger. There is already an international airport being built at Asaba.

Similar can happen between Rivers and Abia, with the ports in PH expanded with state funding. PH has an international airport.

A lot of business can also harness cheap travel up the Niger river, up through Lokoja and then Westward. Lets wait for the dredging of the Niger.
Politics › Re: Meet Nigeria's Oldest Looking 15yr Old Immigrant by Beaf: 2:36pm On Oct 28, 2009
^
No way! He has Yoruba features and accent (I can almost mention his state) grin. But he did give a Niger Delta sounding name.
Politics › Re: The Lost Yoruba Tribe - Yoruba Muslims Of Sierra Leone by Beaf: 2:30pm On Oct 28, 2009
^
Thank you o jare. It is surprisingly hard work.
Politics › Re: Tinubu Did Fashola 419 With Sunburn Hotel Deal by Beaf: 2:00pm On Oct 28, 2009
Tsiya:
Yeh, the idea itself is just ridiculous

If Lagos is suffering from lack of hotels rooms, why not invest directly. Sign a contract with Julius Berger, give them the money, and the plot and give them time. These guys I promise you will deliver the hotel within a possilbe short period of time.

It is just ridiculous how our so called leaders comes with excuse when it come to contract and contracts award. Building infrastructure doesnt take decades. It is just the will
Don't mind them jare. This one is only fit for dumping at Owode Onirin.
Next thing, they will say they want to buy a submarine to ease transportation problems under "public – private partnership"; all with certain corrupt names in the small print.

Nchara:
Fashola is probably about half more competent but completely as corrupt as Tinubu
We be watching.

I saw that hotel several times when it was moored at the Docklands. It really looked nice and imposing then, it is shocking how ugly and rusted it has already become.
Politics › Re: Meet Nigeria's Oldest Looking 15yr Old Immigrant by Beaf: 1:45pm On Oct 28, 2009
bawomolo:
lol he succeeded though. How could they be stupid enough to put this guy with social services.
Man, I was shocked they let him in. Probably a man of 45, who has abandoned his wife and kids. . . Claiming to be 15! Na wa!
Politics › Re: Unbelievable!our Officials Are Too Corrupt To Have Immunity, Says Yar'adua! by Beaf: 1:29pm On Oct 28, 2009
I don't think Aondoakaa has immunity. He can start there, then he will be believable. For now, this goes in the same bin as his now famous "rule of law".
Politics › Re: Nigeria's Economy May Out Grow South Africa's Economy By 2012 - Sanusi by Beaf: 1:23pm On Oct 28, 2009
cvibe:
If the 6,000 MW pomised by Yar Adua translates into steady 24hr power supply, then it's possible.
Nobody has started building anything, it is just promises as usual.

[size=14pt]Prepare your kerosene lanterns, 2013 is just two years away![/size]
Politics › Re: Tinubu Did Fashola 419 With Sunburn Hotel Deal by Beaf: 1:10pm On Oct 28, 2009
Tinubu, who is said to be the beneficiary of major juicy contracts from Lagos state since he installed his crony, Babatunde Fashola, as his successor last year, personally handled the hotel deal said to be worth about $40 Million.  The deal, which was initially disguised as a public –private partnership between the Lagos State government and some private entities including a commercial bank, is a bona fide contract between Tinubu and the state government according to the latest information available to Saharareporters. The floating hotel, which was based in the UK before its sale, was owned by a Finnish businessman.
shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked

Not surprising for a man whose past is shrouded in dubious mystery and deception, not surprising for a man linked to drugs.

Is this the true meaning of "public – private partnership". We've been hearing a lot about these sorts of deals lately. . .

[size=14pt]Does it really mean corruption?[/size]

Politics › Re: Nigeria's Economy May Out Grow South Africa's Economy By 2012 - Sanusi by Beaf: 12:58pm On Oct 28, 2009
^
Abeg free me o! grin
Politics › Re: Nigeria's Economy May Out Grow South Africa's Economy By 2012 - Sanusi by Beaf: 12:40pm On Oct 28, 2009
maxsiollun:
. . .The governor, who was visibly taken aback by the reaction of the audience, said: "I am the CBN governor, people should believe me and show some respect". . .
www.nairaland.com/attachments/180447_ROTFLMAO_gif3d0c775232c7f27cf80592785b9635b6www.nairaland.com/attachments/180447_ROTFLMAO_gif3d0c775232c7f27cf80592785b9635b6www.nairaland.com/attachments/180447_ROTFLMAO_gif3d0c775232c7f27cf80592785b9635b6

Poor sharia loving dude.
Politics › Re: Why Does The Rail Modernisation Project Exclude The South-East And The South-South? by Beaf: 12:31pm On Oct 28, 2009
sjeezy8:
I think the south south def PH is a good investment, but the SE? undecided If there is anything in the SE why are people leaving it to go to the SS and West? The whole country thinks theres nothing there, until you guys can prove the WHOLE country wrong, i see no reason in why a PRIVATE investor would want to build railway in that region.

Its not a thing of marginalization if most elite SEs dont invest in their home region, you cant expect a FOREIGNER to invest in its development. duh
shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked

Speak only for fools and idiots like yourself.

I wouldn't even expect a chimpanzee to come up with such foolish words. Jesus! Do you even sit back and think sometimes? I wonder if you have ever travelled outside Yoruba land or worse, if you have ever visited Nigeria. Maybe you just talk bullshit because your head is in the clouds over there in the states.
What towns can be more industralised per capita than Aba or Nnewi? Or you think as fu.cked up as Ibadan (apologies to anyone from there) is, it is more of a good investment for the "WHOLE country". Boy, you are daft, bigotted and irritating.
You don't have to contribute to topics you know absolutely nothing about, it makes you out as absolutely stupid.
Foreign Affairs › Re: South African White Couple Produced A Black Looking Baby Girl - Sandra Laing by Beaf: 1:38am On Oct 28, 2009
I have a friend whose mother is a pure white European, his dad is 9ja. . . he is 100% black.
Politics › Re: All Hail The Crooks by Beaf: 1:04am On Oct 28, 2009
Politics › Re: Race And Intelligence by Beaf: 12:24am On Oct 28, 2009
Ganja!

. . .Na human beings we dey talk about na. Which one come be de demon picture inside? shocked shocked shocked
Politics › Re: ND Illiterate Kokolette Rita (ijawman's Wife) Murdering The English Language by Beaf: 12:09am On Oct 28, 2009
WTF! This sjeezy's wife is a killer anyday.

What is [size=14pt]"He Hef CC"[/size]? grin

[flash=425,344]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z43lm4-uYts&hl=en&fs=1[/flash]

Damn!!! grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
Politics › Re: Race And Intelligence by Beaf: 11:42pm On Oct 27, 2009
[quote author=Negro_Ntns link=topic=343571.msg4812617#msg4812617 date=1256681306]Morpheous, what country in South Asia are these boys in your pix from?[/quote]Negro I'm sure you'll be interested in the various attempts to link the guys to African etnic groups and Egypt through a couple of language similarities. Lets argue about that one on another thread (a bit tenuous to me)? Should be interesting. grin
Politics › Re: Come And See African Madness by Beaf: 10:10pm On Oct 27, 2009
gadogado:
@naijex

they are the dinka tribe and they're strictly nomadic people meaning the know nothing but cows,they eat the beef and drink the milk and shower with its urine and thats all they know,a cow!!
they have not been able to develop as far as human advancement maybe coz theyre black or maybe coz theyre not intellectually motivated. who knows,the fact is they have not developed at all for thousands of years.you would think that theyd want to develop other means of getting their hair orange or red or making the cow milk but nope.thats disgusting what they do.
FOOL.

Are they not your fu.cked up people? Is that not where you are from? How different are they from your own uncivilised, stone age, raping, murdering, thieving people?
Politics › Re: Ado,south Ondo,lagos And Itsekiri Not Yoruba by Beaf: 9:13pm On Oct 27, 2009
This is so totally wrong!

Corrections:
[list]
[li]The Edo founded Lagos as a military camp to oversee stretches of their empire which extended through Benin Republic to parts of Ghana.[/li]
[li]Warri was never part of the Edo empire[/li]
[li]Warri was founded by the Ijaw (Oporoza's) who have been there since time immemorial and gave land to first the Urhobo, then the Itsekiri[/li]
[/list]

It is important to get these facts right.
Politics › Re: Race And Intelligence by Beaf: 5:58pm On Oct 27, 2009
Bennyboy11:
Obviously the aim of the project was not just identification and break down of genetics, the utimately aim is to explain fundamental links between human traits and genetics and they are no where near completing that yet. You should keep up with developments.

If your comments where on the back of the initial breakthrough then you where completely misguided. Remember when Dr watson made his racist comments he was told to wait because the research was still underway

http://www.wikinomics.com/blog/index.php/2007/06/15/the-next-stage-of-the-human-genome-project/

Besides I'm not arguing about anything so no need to rejig anything, just a word of caution that there is uncertainty
There is nothing to be annoyed over man. Chill wink
It is already a known fact that you cannot tell a persons "race" from their DNA http://knol.google.com/k/frank-w-sweet/can-dna-tell-what-race-you-are/k16kl3c2f2au/12#
That is why I've always put the term in quotation marks throughout this thread. "Race" is in many ways, getting to be seen as no more than a racist term.

The colour of a persons skin is of no more consequence than the size of their nose.
Politics › Re: Race And Intelligence by Beaf: 4:58pm On Oct 27, 2009
Bennyboy11:
It is possible that there are no differences between the races but we don't know yet they only began decoding last year which was a breakthrough. So we can't say anything about Zero differences yet.

I think you misunderstand my point, the question which is a legitimate one is why do we take for granted that all races are equal in intelligence? there is no logical or scientific reason why it should be.

The animal kingdom can also be grouped into mammals etc and further sub divided into dog, cats, humans etc All I'm saying is that within the sub groups there is disparity in levels of intelligents and other traits for dogs for instance so why should it be different for humans?

There might not be differences but it is certainly a valid question and don't say it's impossible because there isn't conclusive evidence either way.

I hope there are no differences for obvious reasons but although it is very uncomfortable to consider, its not impossible.
The human genome project ended quite some time ago, so there is very sound scientific basis to say that there are only cosmetic.
http://www.ornl.gov/sci/techresources/Human_Genome/home.shtml

You need to rejig that argument.
Politics › Re: The Lost Yoruba Tribe - Yoruba Muslims Of Sierra Leone by Beaf: 1:52pm On Oct 27, 2009
^
Your self denial of the reality and evil of slavery seems to be affecting you so badly, that you pretend not to understand what I am saying and want to reduce the discuss to drivel.

Let it pain you and all who don't care about the crime of slavery, blood is on your hands. I will repeat (read it and die again): grin

Beaf:
Why does it take so many sentences to step on your own tongue? But not much can expected from someone who cannot tell where texting can be sensibly employed.

Who cares whether those folk are from Mars?
The simple facts are:
[list]
[li]They were sold[/li]
[li]They were sent into the unknown where they might easily have died (four million African deaths are estimated to have occurred in the Middle Passage)[/li]
[li]They have survived by their own strength or the strength of foreigners (certainly not ours)[/li]
[li]All the time they were "lost", we never went looking for them[/li]
[li]Now that they have been "found", we are not compensating them (not even with a little land like Ghana has done)[/li]
[/list]

Maybe, the above is not both wicked and disgraceful to some, but it is to me. Something very concrete needs to be done before we can begin to point at those that "belong" to us, because we rejected them to a wretched fate. If any Oku or other Creole traces their roots back to Nigeria, it is for us to do the right thing.

[size=14pt]Why do we stupidly think that the obvious can be brushed under the carpet? We need to prostrate ourselves, ask forgiveness and cleanse the land.[/size]

Slavery is equivalent to human sacrifice; in many ways, even worse.
Politics › Re: Race And Intelligence by Beaf: 1:42pm On Oct 27, 2009
Bennyboy11:
But dogs are chosen based on what they are first before selections are done. Parrots are more intelligent than most other birds, fact.

The genetic testing has only just began so time will tell, but is it impossible that blacks are genetically more intelligent than whites or Asians or vice versa.

There is the suspicion for instance that rhythm has to do with genetics so why not intelligence? Let’s be objective and argue freely
There is almost zero genetic difference between "races". That is why I used the example family earlier. Sometimes, there can be more genetic variation in a nuclear family of the same "race" than there is between two different "races".
Also, aren't you are casting your net too wide? Parrots might be more intelligent than most birds, but they certainly are a different animal from an ostrich; just like humans are different from baboons.

We need to look into societal structure for any issues. One question that would offer up a lot of answers is, why were our ancestors left behind from about the 15th century? That is when something went wrong, there is no racial difference in intelligence.
Racial differences in intelligence is a fad. For example; a couple of decades ago, when the Chinese were dying in fearsome scales of hunger, draught and natural disasters, no one ascribed them any intelligence. The same goes for India. But today, there is talk about them being somehow more intelligent than everyone else. Tomorrow, it will be Botswana and Rwanda; they are the next rich countries.
Politics › Re: Race And Intelligence by Beaf: 1:09pm On Oct 27, 2009
@RichyBlack and Duduknight

Make una lef me o! grin

I didn't just say "Ajegunle". I'm talking about those parts that bring tears to the eyes. I used the terms in the "wilds of Ajegunle" and the "roughest parts of Ajegunle".

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