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OmogeNG,

Thank you... Well written response.

But note that the exchange rate for Naira to AUD is more than 140. The rate doesn't follow what is on currency converter.

@babadol,

CDR is what EA uses to assess people's skills. It is strictly about writing on a project you have carried out in your claim occupation. There is a guide/template on how to write it on their website.

It is not anything difficult.

timikenzo2,

You should rewrite the English test, better that way.

Tunai, I have no idea about PTE. You probably may get someone to answer it.

@Apolonius,

You will be better off with the solicitor. I think the law society in Australia gives preference for UK qualified legal professionals. The teaching will be a long thing as the body responsible will want you to have a teaching qualification.

I read something about registering as a lawyer for foreign qualified lawyers, I should still have the documents in my system. There is a different assessment rating for UK qualified people.

^^^^ If you have travelled out of Nigeria before, you probably will be asked. If you have no prior travelling experience, you may not be asked.

However, to speed things up and reduce the time taken to be asked and then processed, it is advised that you frontload them and all other including medicals and PCC.

opa4pr:
Yes I have less than 10 months work experience in an Accounting field, more years experience in administration and training.
You feel the work experience and using my degree could work?
I'll also like to know how you knew Diploma is needed for the Training and development.
Thanks boss

This is where you do a thorough study. Use the occupation code to search the job descriptions and requirements of each occupation on ANZSCO website.

After doing that, you will be able to arrive at which to follow.

yemzy26:
thanks for your answer@bellong,please amongst Vetassess and Aitsl,which assement is more sure.

Aitsl requirments for teacher is tough

but

Vetassess is okay .


Also i hope secondary teacher and regional education manager are related jobs . thanks in anticipation

I can't say specifically which is easier. VETASSES has its issues too. The decision is strictly yours.

Mamajaz,

In addition to what was said you need to be registered with ANMAC first

opa4pr:
Oh yea, true IPA, CPA assess for accounting, i do not have ICAN, i was recently considering assessing with VETASSES for Training and development professional in the CSOL list, where i have 5 years work experience as a Training officer, i also have Diploma in Occupational health and safety. On the ANZCO code it is in Group 2, any idea if my Accounting degree (Australian Associate degree) with the diploma can make me eligible to apply?

Do you have experience in accounting at all? With what you wrote, you stand a better chance with your accounting than training and development. If you have experience in occupational health too, it is good, only that you will strife harder to get more points as the occupation requires a diploma which is 10points.

Elixir123:
Great job guys! Just curious about something and I hope someone living in Aussie can answer this .
Please, given the high cost of living in Aussie ,how easy is is to SAVE and INVEST back home ?
Or is this the case of money made there is spent there?
Please I would appreciate your candid opinion as we are thinking of starting the migration process.
Thanks a lot.

Saving is subjective. Depends on the lifestyle you want to live. You can save and invest back home if it is your plan while at the same time, you may not save if you live extravagant lifestyle.

There is no Yes or No to your question. But it is doable if it is what you want.

yemzy26:
Hello to all ogas here,@bellong good work bro,please help me do justice to this enquiries,

I am hoping to apply for PR and my wife will be the principal applicant with the following details


Age -36 years

Qualification - B.a Philosophy(2006) and Post Graduate Diploma in Education(2014) (pgde certificate not collected)

Experience _ 8 years plus of Teaching with Lagos state government in a secondary school teaching Government

English - Yet to be taken



Please note that i found on the SOL and CSOL list there is Secondary school teacher(philosophers can also be teachers in career)to be assessed by AITSL

Questions

1.can you help me calculate her points
2.Is there any other job description she can use on the SOL list
3.her assessing body want her to do Ielts with 8 bands,can she also use this at dibp(i prefer PTE sha)
4.should she use her degree or Pgde for assesment(she finished pgde in 2014 at National teachers institute,kaduna)


i will ask more when you answer,thank you in anticipation(please also add your advice,thanks

1. If you follow what I wrote in the opening and subsequent posts, you will be able to calculate the points you have control over. I can't calculate her total points until she has done skill assessment and written English test.

2. You can check the two list for a closely related occupation. However, since she has been teaching and has a certificate degree in Education, she can nominate teaching.

3. Yes, she can use it for DIBP. If she gets 8 in each band, that is 20points.

4. If she is assessing as a teacher, she should use both.

opa4pr:
Thanks bellong for opening this thread.
VETASSES i assume might give a negative assessment because i applied to an Australian University for Masters in Accounting with my Accounting degree here from a state university, they said it is equivalent to an Associate degree, which has militated against considering any of the skilled migration visa classes for Accounting occupations on the SOL, CSOL. RSMS.
Do you think i could get a positive assessment if i apply to Vetasses, my Bsc was for 5 years(distance learning), though evaluated by World evaluation service as equivalent to USA 4 year Accounting degree.
Thanks boss

First, VETASSES is not responsible for assessing accountants. There are three bodies doing that, you can assess with any of them. Check the list for their contact.

Your syllabus and course content will determine whether you get positive or negative. If you have ICAN, it will strengthen your application.

Theophinio:
Thanks
But what's their main language

Turkish... Türkçe

Dgr8est,

You can not lay claim to points in work experience until after assessment. Some assessing authorities cut down on years of experience depending on your circumstances. Don't add work experience point yet.

I will advice that you get the MBA transcript and add to the assessment especially for VETASSES.

On the marketing specialist occupation, what Is the minimum academic qualification required for the job?

Aside NT requirement, I am of the opinion that the least you should get in IELTS should be 7 points across band to get 10points from Language skill.

Theophinio:
Please Turkish experts in the house, do Turkish citizens understand English

What an ambiguous question..

Do all Nigerian citizens understand English?

If you are in the big cities like Istanbul, Ankara, Izmir, Antalya, Bursa, you will find many of them who can speak good English.

@dgr8est,

To be considered for state sponsorship, you must have done your skills assessment as it is one of the requirements.

I will advice you get on to the assessment ASAP before the list is updated. While at the assessment, write an English exam and aim for at least a proficient score to get 10 points.


Doyen06,

Your payment exceeded the daily allowable limit, it is why it didn't get through. As advised earlier, consult your bank.

Secondly, you can't get a reference number from ACS until payment is made because that is when it is assumed you applied.

dailydolar:
thank you for this tread what if you have worked for like 8yrs but you lost your job can you still apply for the jobs that fit your experience and also how many month statement of account is requested

Yes, you can still apply. Your experience must be in the last ten 10 years preceding your application.

You don't need statement of account to apply, you only need bank statement as an evidence that you were paid your employer in addition with payslip and tax clearance certificate (if you have)...

cc: bblessed

Funjosh:
How is sister lola and the donor doing


Cc bellong

They are doing well. Recuperating well and normal.

ChisOsin,

Your qualification will be assessed by the body responsible for the occupation you nominate. Check the SOL and CSOL list for occupation that matches your skill. The assessing authority is right in front of it on the list.

hordunayodt:
Thanks bosses for this new thread, it's highly appreciated.
Wanna know,if someone has 55points after all addition, how does he /she goes about state nomination for csol to get additional 5 points. Is it during EOI submission, or the person had to apply for that separately. Thanks

Some states prefer you only indicate on your EOI interest for sponsorship and you must choose them alone. While others prefer you apply with them first after submitting your EOI.

For detailed information, go to the State of your interest website. Link is up there.

SUJYDEE:
Please, from records ; has anyone really gotten a positive assessment from assessing closely related job experiences. The job descriptions are same but the job title on my employment offer is different from what they have on the SOL.
And again I want to ask how to go about employment statutory declaration. I work with a multinational and it is not in there policy to issue employment reference letter and I don't really want to go through the back door to arrange one.
Thanks

Getting a positive assessment from a closely related job experience is the prerogative of the assessing authority. However, if you have considerable years of experience, you can get positive assessment as some bodies replace experience in lieu of the qualification.

If it is title that differs but same job description, then it will not affect you. The bodies take into consideration strictly the job description.

Statutory declaration is very easy. Each body has guideline on how to write it. Anyway, it is same as what your employer will write, only that this time, you will certify it in court or notary public as being truthful and honest. Then you include contact details of your supervisor or manager. When using statutory declaration, make sure you provide enough evidence to support your claim like offer letter, promotion letter (if any).

In summary, find below the steps in applying...


1. Check if your occupation is on MLTSSL/STSOL or nominate a closely related occupation that you can prove. Also check the quota percentage to know if you still stand a chance. You can search for occupations and assessment info on www.anzscosearch.com & Dibp site.

2. Write English test (PTE, IELTS, Toefl) based on your preference and your skill assessment body requirement.

3. Check your assessment requirement from your assessing body and submit your application providing them with the necessary documents.

4. Calculate your points based on your situation.

5. Submit your EOI if you have up to 60 points and wait for invitation.

6. Lodge visa and make payment after invitation. Frontload medicals, PCC and form 80 may help fasten your processing.


NB

For some occupations like Doctors, Nurses,(Most medical and health related professions), Social workers, Lawyers and Psychologists, you will first need to be registered with the registration body of each profession before you can start Permanent resident visa processing. Some require that you write some exams before you are registered while some don't. Detailed information can be found on the body's website.

If your occupation is found only on the STSOL (combined) list, it means you have no alternative than to apply for state sponsorship.

Difference between visa subclass 189, 190 and 489 is that in 189, you do not need any sponsorship to apply once you meet minimum of 60 points. You can live in any of the Australian states you want while 190 subclass requires that you have a moral obligation to live and work for at least 2 years in the state that sponsored you before moving to any other state. For visa 489, it is a pathway to getting permanent resident. in 489 subclass, you are not entitled to Medicare, which is the government's subsidised program for healthcare as medical care is very expensive and the visa does not accord you any government's support. It is just a work visa that provides you a pathway to applying for PR after living in regional area for at least 2 years. I must state that the process for 489 is same as 189 and 190 including the fee. Only that in 489, you can get 10 points if you can't make 60 or 55 points depending on your case and where your occupation is listed. Nevertheless if your occupation can only be sponsored under subclass 489, you should embrace it with open arms as it accord you the opportunity of working without restriction and you can apply for PR after two years. In essence, it is better than nothing or a student visa.

That being said, if your occupation is only on the combined list (STSOL), it means you can only apply for State/Regional sponsored visa (190 and 489). And not all the occupations on the STSOL list are sponsored by states. To know the states sponsoring your occupation, check the status in this website by typing your occupation or the code https://www.anzscosearch.com/search/


Below is the link to the websites of all the states and territories..

http://skillselect.govspace.gov.au/2013/04/26/i-am-seeking-state-or-territory-government-nomination/


You will also need to navigate the website of the state you are interested in her nomination for the requirements and how to apply.

You will begin to ask yourself, what do I do after knowing how the points are calculated. The first step is to know whether your skill/occupation is among the skills/occupation required or needed for migration. There are two (2) types of list which I will explain below.

1. Skilled Occupation List (SOL)... Find the link below

https://www.border.gov.au/Trav/Work/Work/Skills-assessment-and-assessing-authorities/skilled-occupations-lists/SOL

2. Consolidated Sponsored Occupation List (CSOL).... Find the link below.

https://www.border.gov.au/Trav/Work/Work/Skills-assessment-and-assessing-authorities/skilled-occupations-lists/CSOL

[b] With effect from 19 April, 2017, the SOL/CSOL lists have been replaced with Medium and Long Term Strategic Skills List (MLTSSL) and Short Term Skilled Occupation List (STSOL). Continue reading for links and details.


Where your occupation is in any of the two lists will determine what subclass you can apply for. If you see your occupation in MLTSSL list, you can apply for subclass 189, if it is on STSOL list, you can apply for either 190 or 489 which are states/regional areas sponsored visa. However, you can find your occupation in both list, it means you can apply for any of the three if you don't meet up to 60 points on your own, you will need either 5 or 10 points from State or Regional area as the case may be.

1. If you are applying for Visa subclass(es) 189, 489 (Family Nominated) or 485 (Graduate work stream), you must nominate an occupation on the Medium and Long Term Strategic Skills List (MLTSSL). Find link below

http://www.border.gov.au/Trav/Work/Work/Skills-assessment-and-assessing-authorities/skilled-occupations-lists/mltssl

In the MLTSSL list, there are 16 occupations with double asterisk. This means that these occupations are not available for a 457 sponsored visa in the new structure.


2. Although there is no separate list for Short-Term Skilled Occupation List (STSOL), however there is a combined list of eligible occupations for those seeking to apply for Visa subclass(es) 190 and 489 (State or Territory nominated). These two are our business on the list. Below is the link to the list

http://www.border.gov.au/Trav/Work/Work/Skills-assessment-and-assessing-authorities/skilled-occupations-lists/combined-stsol-mltssl

If your occupation can only be found in the combined occupation list (STSOL), it means you require a state or territory government to sponsor you. The link below has the websites of all the States. Check each to confirm if your occupation is being sponsored by any state.
https://skillselect.govspace.gov.au/2013/04/26/i-am-seeking-state-or-territory-government-nomination

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On the list, in front of each occupation is ANZSCO code and Assessing authority. The code is the occupation code for easy reference and the assessing authority is the body responsible for assessing your claimed skill/occupation and qualification.

Once you find your occupation on any of the list and in the case of STSOL, there is a state sponsoring it, go to the assessing authority website to know requirements needed for your assessment. Each assessing authority has different requirements, so it is not a one size fits all. All the assessing authority can be reached by clicking them on any of the list (it will direct you to their website). Below is the link to all the assessing authorities.
http://www.border.gov.au/Trav/Work/Work/Skills-assessment-and-assessing-authorities/assessing-authorities

Some assessing authorities require that you meet a minimum level in English language by writing IELTS/TOEFL/OET/PTE while some do not require English language score. Detailed information can be found on your assessing authority's website.

Because you need points from English language test, there is no rule as which is to do first, either write English or assess your skill. However, for those that their assessing authority requires English language test, you must write one first before submitting application for assessment. If your body doesn't need the test before assessment, you can write later or same time as assessment. Endeavour to score at least a proficient score as outlined above to get minimum of 10 points depending on your circumstances.


Once you get a positive response/assessment from your assessing authority, you are 80% done with the application. Next step is to fill in the Expression of Interest which can be found in the link here https://skillselect.gov.au/SKILLSELECT/ExpressionOfInterest/PreReg/Start

After filling the EOI, wait to be invited, once invited, apply for your visa... do medical test and police report, then wait for your visa approval, which unlike before is no longer slow to be approved.


If you are diligent and follow the process through, it should take you maximum of 9 months from scratch to visa approval going by the current trend...

As explained earlier, the skilled migration program is a point based system and requires minimum of 60 points for you to be invited to apply. The points are calculated below...

1. AGE: [/b]18 - 24 years (25 points)
25 - 32 years (30 points)
33 - 39 years (25 points)
40 - 44 years (15 points)
45 - 49 years (0 points)

2.[b] [size=18pt]ENGLISH LANGUAGE ABILITY:[/size] 2.1 Competent English (0 point :
To prove that you have competent English you must provide evidence of one of the following:
a. You hold a valid passport issued by the United Kingdom, the United States of America, Canada, New Zealand or the
Republic of Ireland and you are a citizen of that country.
b. You have achieved a score of at least 6 in each of the four test components (speaking, reading, listening and writing) in
IELTS
c. You have achieved a score of at least 'B' in each of the four test components of an Occupational English Test (OET).
d. You have achieved the following minimum test scores in each of the four test components: 12 for listening, 13 for
reading, 21 for writing and 18 for speaking, in a Test of English as a Foreign Language internet-based test (TOEFL iBT).
e. You have achieved a test score of at least 50 in each of the four test components (speaking, reading, listening and
writing) in a Pearson Test of English (PTE) Academic
f. You have achieved a test score of at least 169 in each of the four test components (speaking, reading, listening and
writing) in a Cambridge English: Advanced (CAE) test that has been undertaken on or after 1 January 2015 and prior to
lodging the visa.

2.2 PROFICIENT ENGLISH (10 Points):
To prove that you have proficient English you must provide evidence of one of the following:
a. You have achieved a score of at least 7.0 in each of the four test components (speaking, reading, listening and writing)
in IELTS.
b. You have achieved a score of at least 'B' in each of the four test components of an Occupational English Test (OET).
c. You have achieved the following minimum test scores in each of the four test components: 24 for listening, 24 for
reading, 27 for writing and[b] 23[/b] for speaking, in a Test of English as a Foreign Language internet-based test (TOEFL iBT).
d. You have achieved a test score of at least 65 in each of the four test components (speaking, reading, listening and
writing) in a Pearson Test of English (PTE) Academic
e. You have achieved a test score of at least 185 in each of the four test components (speaking, reading, listening and
writing) in a Cambridge English: Advanced (CAE) test that has been undertaken on or after 1 January 2015 and prior to
lodging the visa.

2.3 SUPERIOR ENGLISH (20 Points):
To prove that you have superior English you must provide evidence of one of the following:

a. You have achieved a score of at least 8.0 in each of the four test components (speaking, reading, listening and writing)
in IELTS.
b. You have achieved a score of at least 'A' in each of the four test components of an Occupational English Test (OET).
c. You have achieved the following minimum test scores in each of the four test components: 28 for listening, 29 for
reading, 30 for writing and[b] 26[/b] for speaking, in a Test of English as a Foreign Language internet-based test (TOEFL iBT).
d. You have achieved a test score of at least 79 in each of the four test components (speaking, reading, listening and
writing) in a Pearson Test of English (PTE) Academic
e. You have achieved a test score of at least 200 in each of the four test components (speaking, reading, listening and
writing) in a Cambridge English: Advanced (CAE) test that has been undertaken on or after 1 January 2015 and prior to
lodging the visa.

3. [size=18pt]SKILLED EMPLOYMENT:[/size]
To claim points for skilled employment you must have, in the 10 years before you were invited to apply, at least 20 hours
of paid work per week in your nominated skilled occupation and/or a closely related occupation.
Skilled employment is where:
the relevant assessing authority provides an opinion in your suitable skills assessment that your employment is
skilled (you must use the date that skilled employment commenced stated in your skills assessment)
your employment experience meets the standards for skilled employment set by the relevant assessing authority.
0 - 3 years experience.. (0 Point)
3 - 5 years experience.. (5 points) At least 3yrs but less than 5 years
5 - 8 years experience.. (10 points) At least 5 years but less than 8 years
8 - 10 years experience. (15 points). At least 8 years.

4. [size=18pt]QUALIFICATION[/size]

Doctorate from an Australian educational institution or other doctorate of a recognised standard. 20 points

At least a bachelor degree from an Australian educational institution or other degree of a recognised standard.. 15 points

Diploma or trade qualification completed in Australia 10 points

An award or qualification recognised by the assessing authority in the assessment of the skilled occupation 10 points

5. Australian Study Requirements.... This is only for those who studied or are studying in Australia...

One or more degrees, diplomas or trade qualifications awarded by an Australian educational institution and meet the Australian
study requirements 5 Points.

6. [size=18pt]OTHER FACTORS[/size]

A. Credentialled community language qualifications 5 POINTS

B. Study in regional Australia or a low population growth metropolitan area (excluding distance education) 5 POINTS

C. Partner skill qualifications 5 POIINTS

D. Professional year in Australia for at least 12 months in the four years before the day you were invited to apply 5 POINTS

7. [size=18pt]NOMINATION/SPONSORSHIP (WHERE REQUIRED)[/size]

A. Nomination by state or territory government (visa subclass 190 only)..... 5 POINTS

B. Nomination by state or territory government or sponsorship by an eligible family member to reside and work in a
specified/designated area (visa subclass 489 only).......................... 10 POINTS

Hello all,

For those requiring answers to PR related questions, I have opened a new thread for it. See the link below..

https://www.nairaland.com/3053069/general-guide-australian-permanent-resident


I will copy lot of people here on the thread so you can join in answering questions. It doesn't mean I wouldn't answer general questions that I have answers to here but to separate PR from Study visa.

This thread aims at providing guide, instructions and genuine advice to prospective applicants for Australian permanent resident visa through the skilled migration program. For those looking to apply for study (student) visa, the link below will be more useful as it has enough information about applying to schools and Australian study visa. This new thread is specifically for permanent resident visa application.

Prospective students, follow this thread.. https://www.nairaland.com/2338380/general-australian-visa-enquiries-part

By way of introduction, Australia has a number of pathway to getting permanent resident status but the easiest is the skilled migration. Skilled migration, as the name implies means opportunity for both "academic skilled and technical skilled" people to migrate legally and permanently to Australia. The program was originally designed to address skill shortages in the country generally, so they came up with a system that attracts people who can meet the minimum requirements.

There are five visa subclass in the skilled migration pathway namely Subclass 189 (Independent), 190 (State sponsored), 489 (Regional/nominated provisional), 132 (Business Talent) and 188 (Business Innovation and investment, provisional). I will be talking strictly on the first three. See link for Australian Border Force's website for the skilled migration.. http://www.border.gov.au/Trav/Work/Skil

The three visa subclass, 189, 190 and 489 are for professionals, technologists, artisans and trade workers who can meet up to minimum of 60points for 189, 55points for 190 and 50 points for 489. I will explain how the points are calculated, occupation list and application in the subsequent posts.




Please, avoid sending PMs, except for special circumstances, ask your question on this thread so others can benefit from it to prevent unnecessary repetition of questions. Thanks.

For easy access, I have attached the following documents . There will not be need resending or asking if people do read.

1, Reference letter sample
2, Statutory declaration sample
3, Vetasses general occupations list/instructions


DISCLAIMER:

THE CONTENTS OF THIS THREAD ARE STRICTLY THE OPINIONS OF THE AUTHOR. NONE SHOULD BE TAKEN AS MIGRATION ADVICE. FOR MIGRATION ADVICE.

hallly:
Hi everyone, Please is it possible to request for a remark on PTE-A, and if so, is it advisable? I just received my result today
L90 R87 S78 W84

And I really need 79 pts in each. Thanks

You can give it a trial...

Aceblazer, you can't use the Nigerian driver's license or international license as a form of ID. Your passport will suffice if you don't have the local license.

ENGRJCJ:
OK Bro.. So e-Licence is what u use there abi? So it's better I get this e-Licence we use here rather than this international one I'm processing

Nigerian driver's license is valid as long as it has not expired. Once it expires, it becomes invalid.

ENGRJCJ:
I thought what he needs is international driver's license not this e-Licence we use here.. I stand to be corrected though

Your country license is more valid than international license because it is believed it has gone through the scrutiny of the country's road rules and regulations.

aceBlazer:
Pls Bellong... What exactly is the importance of a valid naija drivers license in Australia? Mine is expired and I care less about renewal but if it's gonna be useful in Aussie then I'd better renewed it as I still have some time to do that...
Your usual candid response will be most appreciated Sir... Cheers

If you are not on a permanent resident visa, it entitled you to drive legally as long as it is valid. Once it expires, that right ceases.
If you are a permanent resident, it allows you to change your license to the full State license you reside after taking some tests without being on learner and Probational driver's license.

Sammybbb:
Hello House..pls I need to know if this our Temporary Drivers license is acceptable in Australia..As it takes 3 months to get the permanent e-licence ..because I need to lodge for visa latest next weekend ?

As long as it has not expired, once it gets pass it's expiry date, it becomes invalid.

lodded:
I salute everybody in dz great building.....Pls i want to ask ds confusing questions as well as i need urgent responds for Christ sake....Does Australian university esp (Flinders university) verify bank statement account before they issued out d ECOE? Likwise does Australian embassy verify bank statement acct b4 dy issued out d visa.......House pls nd pls i need urgent responds abt ds.....

Except you are planning to use an Oluwole bank statement, I don't think you need to bother yourself about whether it is confirmed or not.

^^^^ AMen..

Once again... Thank you all