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IjeBos:
No one said that.
People argued CBS News did not substantially edit her interview to change what she was saying.

Most networks edit interviews unless they have time to show the whole thing.
Or do you think all the edits Fox News made of Trump Interviews were not edits?

But you know all this Captain Intellectual Dishonesty. It's just more of your Intellectually Dishonest Bulshit you peddle.

Talking to Trumpers here is like talking to children who ride a short bus.

Lol IQ
They edited all the word salads out. That's a substantial change. Again, low IQ old man

GloriousGbola:

https://www.tiktok.com/video/7467594205435677995

You be small pikin? Posting a tiktok link here 😂😂

What's the color of your hair?

cococandy:
Each new day is a new fvckery

What's the next lie you will post here?

cococandy:
Yes if a lay person rejects a procedure because they’re scared they will get in legal trouble, then the lawmakers share the blame in that. This is not a complex issue to understand. I know complex stuff is difficult for you.

you are making up stories and lies as you go. She could not reject a medical procedure, especially in a critical situation. she is already suffering from the effect of abortion so why will the D&C be the reason for her to be penalized and not the abortion she is suffering from? Use your head

this is an excerpt from the article:

Hope dialed his mother, a former physician, who was unequivocal. “You need a D&C,” she told them, referring to dilation and curettage, a common procedure for first-trimester miscarriages and abortions. If a doctor could remove the remaining tissue from her uterus, the bleeding would end.

But when Dr. Andrew Ryan Davis, the obstetrician on duty, finally arrived, he said it was the hospital’s “routine” to give a drug called misoprostol to help the body pass the tissue, Hope recalled. Hope trusted the doctor. Porsha took the pills, according to records, and the bleeding continued.

this is a procedural issue, not a political issue.

cococandy:
And if we were speaking of one person that might be said to be a misunderstanding on their part

Go to any popular social media platform and see thousands of women online detailing how they’ve made appointments to go get permanent birth control so they’ll never be able to have kids in the future. Just so they never get caught up in a situation like this, where they might get investigated for “murdering their preborn babies”. Or doctors getting in trouble on their behalf for helping them.

So saying the law has no bearing on any of this is deliberate stupidity. And I’ve had enough of yours for today.

I’m glad you find it so funny. Your children if you ever have any will be glad some people saw the sky falling and made effort to ensure it doesn’t crash on them. I know Afghanistan women of today probably wish some people had made enough effort to avoid the enthronement of extremism in their land.

the quote from the doctor shows it is procedural malpractice. You are delusional so you will stick to falsehood since trump has warped your reality.

https://www.propublica.org/article/porsha-ngumezi-miscarriage-death-texas-abortion-ban

Livelystone01:
I try my best to respect people and I also expect them to respect me back. That's not too much to ask from anyone and I will never tolerate whoever isn't going to act like a human with decorum.

I will never accept any disrespect from anyone!

I have said it before and I will say it again, if I don't respond to you, it means you have acted or keep acting like a lunatic because I am a very patient person with decision making.

If I respond to you, it means I already have an understanding that you are a human that can have normal discussions like every other normal human.

I am not sorry for my decision.

respond to him instead of just posting this here. we know this message is for him so why not post it to him directly?

IjeBos:
You're too stupid to even understand what USAID does or the purpose of the programs as it relates to US foreign policy or US soft Power.
As if Marco Rubio who was a senior member of the Foreign Relations Committee didn't' know what kind of programs USAID ran.
Go sit in your corner, suck your thumb and continue to lie about living in the US or whatever state you are lying about living in now.

Who the fuk are you to even pretend you have some knowledge on this?
You should spend your time learning how to speak and write English before opening your mouth to me again.

How is he supposed to know when no one knows? that is why Trump is draining the swamp. Trump 1.0 appointed the swamp and he is not making the same mistake this time which is why you are not seeing leaks left and right. I don't think anyone would be getting book deals this time.

you are a bootlicker so continue playing dumb

cococandy:
Gosh you’re dense

PS I would never blame an uninformed patient.

I blame the lawmakers practicing medicine without license. Writing laws on things they don’t understand and causing fear that stops women like her from seeking help before it’s too late.

But you’re too dense to understand that. Watch you come back with another warped grasp of what the implications of this meddling in women’s reproductive healthcare means.

imagine going to the hospital in a critical situation, Doctors want to perform a procedure on you but you reject it because you think politicians put laws then turn around and blame the politician for rejecting a procedure the doctors wanted to perform on you for banning the procedure

you are very donkey hahahaha

IjeBos:
Here is Marco Rubio talking about the importance of foreign aid and USAID. (starts at the 1:15 mark).
In fact he used to say USAID was underfunded.
Well until he became a Trump sycophant. (Kinda like Raumdeuter when he used to call Trump a racist.)

I wish I could say about the deviousness hus hypocrisy and lying shows. But I can't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Iyre-qTsds

at 52 years you still be mumu. He praised it before just like people were praising Sam Bankman Freid before they realized he is stealing people's money and gambling with it as he donated to democrats.

With the information surfacing i doubt he is going to praise USAID again.

cococandy:
When you don’t have anything tangible to respond with

but you don't even know what D and C are. Saying she rejected it is her fault for making you look stupid. but that is not what happened which means you have no clue about your own story

I was making a web app for my entertainment but due to work and other life stuff, I cannot continue with my hobby. I am thinking of making my work an open-source code so others can contribute to it.

Livelystone01:
I still hold the position that most of these USAID revelations should be studied first before dropping to the public.

Most are slush funds to settle for some American interests in other nations. They cannot be named because of it gets out they are operating something of such in foreign nations, it woul become a problem.

I don't know how to explain to make you understand that I see those as payments for clandestine operations that helps America and their interests in those countries.

They said Politico received government aid to the tune of 8 million dollars. the left and the right started making misinformation out of it. that was a fact, they did get 8 million in 2024. USAID was part of the government aid they got

Livelystone01:
No I do not oppose it, as a matter of fact I love and appreciate accountability a lot. What I need the agency to do though is to get verifiable facts and understand what and where these finances are going to before exposing them to the public. So many people are already angry, anything will inflame them to not be logical.

Also, I think the agency needs to be bi-partisan so as to have members from both divides to work together in order to get the best result possible.

what fact did they get wrong?

Livelystone01:
...but where is BLM now?

Are they only focused on agendas?

I've been wondering.

Too many corrupt systems in the US calling themselves NGOs.

SMH

BLM is a fraud. they have been exposed for their corruption. nobody trusts them again.

cococandy:
Whatever floats your boat mister.

madam, you have been caught spreading lies that were spread. this is your sky is falling mantra

cococandy:
She died because she needed an emergency dnc which she declined in favor of the pill. You don’t think you can do 2+2 and somehow come to the obvious conclusion that unclear laws that threaten to prosecute women for such actions might have affected her decision like I was saying from the beginning of this conversation.

Granted I as a medical provider would’ve stuck my neck out to make her damn whatever consequences were to follow and at least make the decision to save her life in the moment. But you can’t guarantee what other medical providers would do if they’re not sure what the repercussions might be.

After fixating on her case, find a reason to justify the other deaths too. Tell us the threat of jail or death sentence has absolutely no effect on women’s decisions to ask for help and what kind of help they accept.

from the bold and what you are saying i think you have no clue of what you are arguing

cococandy:
His link is live action. A right wing media that uses phrases such a preborn child. Not biased at all

My source is the words of the actual medical providers who are verbalizing how these abortion laws are making it such that women are scared to go get help because of fear of prosecution.

Doctors are unsure of how to proceed in certain cases. Like if the woman is hemorrhaging and the fetus still has a heartbeat, they don’t have the assurance that they won’t be accused of killing a child by performing the procedure.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/show/doctors-worry-abortion-laws-will-hinder-treatment-of-patients-in-life-or-death-situations

the source is ProPublica madam. those stories are lies to sway the election mainly in Texas and it failed. you spread lies here. thats how you guys were spreading Hunter Biden's laptop lies.

Livelystone01:
But Trump over exaggerate too much which is an issue for me.

My opinion on him doesn't count though, I'm just waiting to see his score card after 2 years.

some of us that understand him knows when to take him literally. I argued this with a lot of people on the left here. they say Trump says tariff this, tariff that. All these things he is doing are in his Art of the Deal book. Last year before the election I kept telling folks the tariff is a bargaining tool used for negotiation. he is not stupid to tariff everything. That is exactly what he is doing. Even the Gaza remark is the same thing. All those countries that disagree will need to take responsibility now.

Livelystone01:
Omo, America is becoming the more you look the less you see.

The biggest problems in the US today.
The media - MSM
The fanatics - Party supporters
The delusional fellows - Those c
The politicians - Trump/Biden/Obama (especially) and others on both sides
DOGE - This agency is looking like it's going to cause a very big self inflicted damage to the US international interests.


Make we just dy look.

you are against DOGE exposing the corrupt tentacles of the octopus?

Livelystone01:
Kamala Harris has been a dull woman if we are truly unbiased. The media who pushed her intelligence during the campaign should all keep themselves out of journalism because it was clear to people how dull she was since she was VP. Every interview that wasn't edited or preconceived was a very big failure.

It was an own goal by the Dems to field such a dull candidate. Her VP is another baggage.

When Trump says something everyone will call him a liar then the truth comes out.

cococandy:
Yea. Let’s not believe documentation of the medical professional who has everything to lose by lying on the chart. I don’t think you’ve ever worked in an American hospital. Falsify documentation can land a healthcare worker in jail and they’ll lose their license. But the biased website you’re reading this BS from is claiming the healthcare provider falsified documentation. So we are to believe them over the healthcare providers. Got it.

The medical examiner determined that Porsha Ngumezi died from hemorrhage (severe blood loss). the hemorrhage resulted from heavy and prolonged bleeding during her miscarriage, compounded by her blood clotting disorder, and the treatment she received (misoprostol) was not effective in stopping the bleeding.
any one with open mind should look at the propublica's article. the article's title is misleading as usual then you would see the medical malpractice that caused the death
https://www.propublica.org/article/porsha-ngumezi-miscarriage-death-texas-abortion-ban

GloriousGbola:
Post a link to your source.

or should we just take your word for it?

you think matters of life and death and women's health are also things to troll about?

the person I am responding to did not post the links to her source. but all these stories are Propublica's attempt to sway the election. bring deaths dating 2022 around the 2024 election and act like the deaths just happened.

the truth wins again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KrkBBoNFcA

Porsha Ngumezi death was a result of medical malpractice not due to political or abortion ban.
cococandy and ObaIgwe1

the summary of what really happened in 2022 which they brought up during the election to try to sway votes.
the cases where preventable complications from chemical abortions led to maternal deaths. the deaths resulted from medical mismanagement rather than restrictive laws as cococandy and her leftwing lying media claimed.

In the first case, (Amber Thurman) who is already caring for a child, traveled to a North Carolina clinic for a surgical abortion. she was delayed due to traffic and the clinic only held her appointment for a short time. Once there, she was given abortion drugs by an employee of unclear qualifications without clear evidence of proper informed consent. After returning home, she became seriously ill, hemorrhaged, and eventually developed a septic incomplete abortion. Although she was given antibiotics, a delayed dilation and curettage procedure meant that when intervention finally occurred, she was already in multi-organ failure and died on the operating table. there is nothing like restrictive laws preventing her from receiving care.

The second case involved Candy Miller, a 40-year-old woman with preexisting conditions such as severe lupus, diabetes, and hypertension. Influenced by media messages suggesting that seeking an abortion would result in legal repercussions, she obtained abortion drugs online rather than receiving in-clinic care. It is unclear if she was within the approved gestational period for the medication. Over several days, she experienced significant hemorrhaging and was eventually found unresponsive at home, leading to her death.

in both cases proper medical protocols such as accurate assessment of gestational age and timely surgical intervention were not followed, resulting in preventable deaths. the media and political figures like the ones USAID gives money to are spreading misinformation that deters women from seeking necessary care and inhibits doctors from providing timely treatment, thereby exacerbating the already high rate of preventable maternal mortality in this country.

so cococandy, your likes are the ones making these women make wrong decisions in life so you could point your fingers at the republicans and say that's the bad guys.

cc: ObaIgwe1

ObaIgwe1:
Can you please give us the evidence or links that those claims have been debunked as mere propaganda.

because it is from a propaganda website ProPublica which was debunked on this thread last year.

raumdeuter:
Have the entire Republican congress pushed the bill? You posted the view of one person as a Senate republican. You think there are no Pro life Democrat Senator in the US?



You are talking about human lives. There are certain states where you live and some where you die for doing the exact same thing.

cococandy is not reasoning. she has been screaming the sky is falling

cococandy:
which one is the lie here?

1) republicans introduced bills to ban abortions?
2) republicans blocked bills to ensure national access to birth control?
3) those women didn’t die? It was all made up to disparage Trump right? They’re still alive somewhere hiding and pretending to be dead.

This is what happens when you support evil. You try hard to reconcile the fact that you’re a terrible person who supports terrible things. The only thing you can do to console yourself is to tell yourself that it must be a lie.

Meanwhile the people you’re supporting are telling you out loud that they are doing what they are accused of doing. But you can’t make sense of it so your mental defense is to pretend you don’t hear them admitting to it.

The mindfck must be debilitating

stop posting lies

cococandy:
Sure. Whatever you need to tell yourself

Posting lies and propaganda does not help. You have been posting crap fear mongering articles since trump won.

nateevs:
You don reach America, abi you still dey road? Immigrating Fraud!

So much for decorum. I spotted the emotions from you and dodged it

cococandy:
These are real women. Their children are motherless now. Their husbands are widowed and their parents have buried their adult children.

Think well before you jump on culture wars.
Like I often tell you guys, for some of you on this site, it’s just talk and debate so you don’t care because it doesn’t affect you.

For others, it’s their literal lives on the line.

These are debunked propaganda already

nateevs:
Respond to the substance then. You think insulting women gives your point more credence? Online gangster.

No substance, just emotions

cococandy:
Then you understand why republicans fighting to abolish abortion is a threat to the wellbeing of women. Or is this the point where you apply cognitive dissonance and find a reason to justify their actions; calling anyone (like me) who points it out crazy?

They are fighting abortion and infanticide from the likes of you.