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IjeBos:
My life isn't a big lie like yours.
In MA it's either D, R, or Unenrolled

Did you ever post that US visa? Lol. That was rhetorical. I know you can't post what you never had. Lol.

For a country where I see men select female as gender in forms they fill, how does this change anything?

you are an independent pigs fly.

IjeBos:
I'm a registered Independent.
If you can't see the difference between the republican and democratic parties, you are not an independent.

and pigs also fly

basilico:
Bemeruca,

Brand new video . Very clear images of the helicopter airplane crash.
Be the judge.

NEW VIDEO OF DC BLACKHAWK COLLISION AND PLANE CRASH

These are the clearest images of the collision we've seen so far.

How is it possible the Blackhawk pilots did not see the AA jet.pic.twitter.com/mqY2Lnhn0K

— Citizen Free Press (@CitizenFreePres) January 31, 2025

I said I won't rule out intentional. Plane is lit up like a mall.

Its not intentional

IMAliyu2:
Take a step back and realize you're imagining something and being upset about that imagination.
Provide evidence that the standards and/or qualifications have been lowered, if you can not, then you are not operating in reality, but the fiction Trump and conservatives have constructed for you.

there is a class action lawsuit against the FAA claiming they complained that qualified candidates are too white.

see the evidence of DEI

budaatum:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp4NFcfSdkY&list=TLPQMDEwMjIwMjXAA3c_qRnrlw&index=5

losers club. crying losers cant send millions to buy condoms for Hamas so they cry

BREAKING: Philadelphia plane crash, 6 dead, explosions reported

feedthenation:
---Stock markets fell on coming tariffs---Felon 47 will sign an EO to blame Biden and Obama---for coming high prices and inflation---

https://www.investopedia.com/dow-jones-today-01312025-8783658

the sky is falling.

basilico:
From the link I'd posted here the crew must have had additional training for them to be allowed to overfly that restricted area.

"Everybody's looking outside the aircraft to try to find that other aircraft that you are near," Duckworth said. "The crew chief in the back is also doing the same thing. They're looking out of the aircraft as well, spotting any traffic that's nearby, conveying that information. So, the crew would be talking to each other while also listening to the air traffic controller." .......
They're not allowed to go above 200 feet mean sea level," ....She explained that the helicopter crew "would have been basically sitting in a plexiglass bubble in the Black Hawk with plexiglass above your head, underneath your feet and out the two sides."

"So the helicopter — they would have had a better visual command than the American Airlines Flight, which was landing,


The crash occured at over 300 feet well above the ceiling.

their ceiling is 200, crash happened at 300. It may be that they went up because they thought the plane flying away was the plane ATC was asking them if they had visuals on. ATC did not communicate to them the direction the plane was approaching from. they don't know if the plane is landing or taking off. they thought what they saw was what was asked. to them, the threat is no longer there.

The military should not be operating there. in fact, a commercial airport should not be there since there are serious air restrictions in that area.
ATC still is to blame for almost entirely.

LordAdam16:
First, a near miss should not be a thing.
It's preposterous that they seem to tolerate it.
All it takes is one mistake as we've just witnessed and all goes to sh*t.


[quote author=LordAdam16 post=133950705]Second, visuals should be enough to request a flight path update.
Helos can hover and are more maneuverable than a landing jet.

The problem is that only ATC knew what was going on. Helos says they have Visuals of the jet; unfortunately, they were visuals of the wrong jet.

LordAdam16:
The jet did everything right.
The offending parties are the ATC and helo.
I see you're trying to pin it all, or at least most of the blame on the ATC.
I think they both share the blame. The ATC should of course end up in an Amazon fulfillment center.
But if the helo had taken a different course of action, more than 60 souls would have been saved and the ATC's error would not have been fatal.

I am pinning almost all the blame on them because only they knew about the collision course and did nothing about it. The jet was kept out of the loop and was not aware of the traffic in their vicinity given the fact that the Jet has right of way and priority. The jet is supposed to hear communication between the helos and the ATC for situational awareness but that wasn't the case. That 3-way communication would have helped the jet to decide a go around at least since the ATC changed the runway they were supposed to land and the jet accepted even if they didn't have to accept.

LordAdam16:
I get that it's a helo and not a fighter jet. It'd have been easier to see a descending airliner from a fighter jet cockpit.
But I just find it hard to accept that both copilots on a training flight, more of a recertification flight, failed to see the jet. That's a pilot error.
They were training to avoid this type of accident in the first place and they had more than 1000 flight hours between them.

The pilot was asked if he saw a plane, he saw a plane but it was the wrong plane. I don't see how that is much of an error, where I am blaming the Helos pilot is that with was flying above the required altitude and even that is not enough, flying at the right altitude would have been a near miss if they had not collided.

There is always an altitude difference when 2 flights are close and potentially gonna cross the path. TCAS usually handles that above 1000ft, it was the duty of ATC to set or assert the altitude of the Helos which won't work in this situation. At best ordered the Helos to wait or go around for the Jet to pass as they saw from their Radar both planes would cross the path and also a warning.
My thoughts are the controller should have prevented the helicopter from crossing an active runway with traffic on finals

LordAdam16:
It all goes back to the FAA and the airport's control tower higher-ups.
If you've had a near-miss on more than one occasion, why the f*ck is fixing that not a top priority?
Are we to expect more near misses in the future? Because apparently a solution does not exist. If it does, why are we waiting until after an accident to implement it?
They're going to can the ATC and his/her supervisor but the suits should have rectified the situation rather than play Russian roulette.
And I'm particularly miffed at the "career staff". The cunts that yell over everyone about the importance of "institutional memory" and other diatribe. Here's a situation when they should have put their superior knowledge and wealth of experience to good use but they couldn't be bothered.

Biden was increasing the workforce, but somehow the FAA couldn't fill up flight controller vacancies.
Should the US remove the citizenship requirement and establish a new visa class to import talent before they do what's right.
Tell you what, if they're operating the nuclear and bioresearch labs with the same skill they displayed here, America is f*cked.

-Lord

They took the FAA to court for doing diversity hiring. I think this is where all the blame game is coming from which is wrong on both sides. Trump should not be talking DEI from this tragedy but the left was the first to attack him from this tragedy and I suspect he was clapping back.

LordAdam16:
I have avoided commenting on the crash because the more I read about the accident, the madder I get.

To find out that near misses have occurred multiple times in that sector, the FAA flagged it internally; and for whatever reason they failed to fix it.

Add this to the growing pile of evidence why the Fed civil service should be gutted and rebuilt.
Incoming overhaul in operations should have been done after the first 3 near-misses.
Instead, the incompetent f*cks who are religiously against RTO were receiving fat salaries in their pajamas and waiting for a tragedy to light a fire under their a$$.

The culture in the federal service needs to change, and especially at the DoD.
The frequency of accidents involving the military in the last year has been outrageous.
Here you have three pinocchios T-boning a jet during a training flight because I guess the helo's radar was faulty or they're all sharing one pair of eyes.

This accident was avoidable. There must be accountability.

-Lord

ATC FTC radar shows imminent collision 30 seconds before the crash. ATC did not following any mandatory FAA guidelines to avoid it. The jet has priority over that airspace, the jet is not aware of the traffic (Heli), ATC did not give the Heli assertive commands to stay clear of the jet's flight path. Asking if the Heli has visual of the jet is not enough if he can clearly see they are about to collide.

From the situation, even if they did not collide it would have been a near miss.

feedthenation:
---have you listened to the comms between the helicopter pilot and the ATC to established they are all DEIs---

ATC takes blame 90% of the blame, helicopter pilot takes 10% of it.

basilico:
A lot of possibilities including intentional , DEI or TDS from the Helicopter pilot. Search for her name.

The helicopter route is their normal route, they should fly below 200 fit, they were flying 300 fit just before the collision, the radars usually have collision warning, in a situation like this, an experienced ATC should not allow both planes cross path so close. They always control altitude of flights to avoid collision, they didn't do that. They could have ask the helicopter to maintain an altitude of 150ft or less from the get go.

Like is said, both the helicopter and ATC made a mess out of this. The helicopter went up to 300 fit just before collision, ATC gave no warning of possible collision despite seeing everything on radar. Situations like this, they can also ask the helicopter to reduce speed just enough for the jet to pass. After all, they redirected the jet to land on that run way which is not the initial runway they were supposed to land on

basilico:
I'm blaming pilot error not political correctness on this disaster.You don't bring DEI to ATC hiring by all means unless you have some loose nuts and bolts in your head. I have been severally in some cockpits and I'm regularly on small propeller aircraft , the ATC job is critical ,no mistake should be allowed

Its not pilot error. The traffic control failed to do their work. They were seeing everything. They did not warn both planes

basilico:
They are saying night vision can inhibit distance estimations , but a plane when landing is fully lit up like a mall.

Planes have huge blind spot. He saw a plane sadly it was the wrong plane he was tracking.

basilico:
I think it's just a mistake, Murphys Law . "If anything can go wrong it will".
There is always that possibility that a crash can occur in air despite every technology available.

They were watching them on a collision course. They didn't warn the jet or the black hawk. They knew the altitude was about the same for both. I think Trump knows something. That's why he was calling the tower for their incompetence. He also dragged the army. Why are they training at night at a busy airport?

The incompetent idiots in the tower never gave a warning to the jet or the copter. They saw everything on the radar.

basilico:
A preliminary FAA report on the collision found that air traffic control tower staffing at Reagan Washington National Airport (DCA) was "not normal" for the amount of air traffic and for the time of day, a source with knowledge of the situation told NBC News.

The tower typically has a controller that focuses specifically on helicopter traffic. But at the time of the crash last night, the source said, one controller at DCA was overseeing both airplane and helicopter activity.

The helicopter was in communication with the tower, they asked if they see the plane and the helicopter pilot said yes. Unfortunately, there was another plane taking off if you watch the crash video. That's the plane he sees not the one he collided with.

cococandy:
Apparently there was a near miss at this same very busy airport before this collision. Thank goodness we didn’t end up with two collisions.

So only a bullish hard headed person who doesn’t understand how the system works would mess with the balance of their staffing/supervisors without adequate alternatives already in place and operating optimally.

Not a word of condolence or consolation to the country before he went off on a rant. As he always did in his first term.

Never been a leader. Never will be. You can’t buy leadership qualities.

The moment of silence and all the condolence he gave was nothing 😂 you too lie

IjeBos:
For someone who can't even string together a complete sentence, you sure run your mouth a lot.
Someone who can't even conjugate a verb is talking about a DEI hire? The insanity of it.
What type of shitty school did you attend that let you graduate?

Same old same old old man 😂

IjeBos:
At some point you are going to have to learn to write a sentence that is grammatically correct.
Holy Sh*t.
Why the fux do you always sound like English was your 3rd language?

No wonder you hate DEI, you think all minority candidates are as dumb as you clearly are.

don't worry, I don't have to especially when I am here. anything my phone types out, you have to take it
typos, grammatical errors etc. but stop posting lies.

IjeBos:
Going to be a tough 4 years.

You just posted a lie.
Tough because you have been crying since

Democrats especially in California are the biggest idiots on earth.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mV1RN18ZX4

Ibime:
Nigga shut the fvck up. Defenders at the ready as always to provide an out to the idiot-in-Chief who has diarrhoea of the mouth as always

What do you know? Drones are not allowed around airports.
The helicopter should not be there knowing there is an inbound flight landing. This is common sense. Airtraffic control at fault, they control the airspace

armyofone:
Continue to make blind excuses e nu go!

We saw some of your friends with headlines saying trump is to blame. That's long before the press briefings. I am dragging both sides but you are partisan

Air traffic control is at fault. No time should a helicopter be at the path of airliners in an airport.

This is a big fail

feedthenation:

---The Convict-in-Chief---Felon 47---started the blame game---when it is absolutely unnecessary---


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfgllf1L9_4

I agree with you on this one. But I think he must have read the headlines before the press briefings

happney65:
"Remained all through Trump's first term"

Last mandate and this mandates are different. Biden puts it but it's Trump's fault for not removing it even when you will cry if he removes it.

happney65:
During a press conference addressing the plane collision in D.C., NBC News' Peter Alexander challenged President Trump's claim that DEI initiatives at the FAA began under Biden. The text the President cited was posted in 2013 and remained up during his first term.

News

Biden and Obama. He is correct

The evil left are lefting

Kash Patel is on

https://www.youtube.com/live/LOU6gnHhTUc

basilico:
Look at how Vogue describe Melania portrait.

https://www.vogue.com/article/melania-trump-official-white-house-portrait-the-apprentice-cosplay

Excerpt
. The sober black-and-white photograph by Régine Mahaux features Trump, the Washington Monument towering over her shoulder, resting her fingers on a reflective black desk and staring down the camera as if to say, “You’re fired.” Indeed, Trump looked more like she was guest starring on an episode of The Apprentice than assuming the role of first lady of the United States.

Trump’s clothing certainly didn’t help the boardroom pastiche. The first lady wore a black Dolce & Gabbana tuxedo jacket with satin-trimmed lapels over a white button-up, which she paired with a Ralph Lauren cummerbund and trousers. The choice to wear a tuxedo—as opposed to a blazer or blouse—made Trump look more like a freelance magician than a public servant. It’s perhaps unsurprising that a woman who lived in a gold-encrusted penthouse, whose fame is so intertwined with a reality-television empire, would refuse to abandon theatrics—even when faced with 248 years of tradition

These degenerates are so full of hate.

They should keep doing what the know how to do. She does not care 😀

cococandy:
Let’s hope his reckless behavior didn’t cause this.

Messing with federal agencies that control air traffic is not something any president has done before.

Can you live for a day without trump in your head?