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[b]@Habiola,

And others who thinks riches as used in the bible all means material riches.

Can you differentiate btw Material riches,and spiritual riches,or do you think the riches used in the bible are authomatically material riches?.


Matthew 6:24.

24 “No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money.

THE ATTACHMENT OFTEN DEMANDED BY MATERIAL RICHES, MAKES IT ALMOST IMPOSIBLE TO SERVE GOD.
 
1 John 2:15-17
15Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.

16For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

17And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.

IN CONCLUSION,MATERIAL RICHES TAKES ENORMOUS EFFORT TO PROTECT FROM BEING TAKEN AWAY,ASK RICH PEOPLE INCLUDING PASTORS,THEY DONT TRUST ANYBODY,AND THAT MAKES THEM ERRONEOUSLY BREACH ''THE PROCEEDURES OF HANDLINGS CHURCH FUNDS''IN THE BIBLE,FUNDS ARE USUALLY HANDLED BY QUALIFIED OLDER MEN,BUT CONTRARY TO THAT, THEY CHOOSE THEIR WIFE ABOVE THE RANKS OF OTHER PASTORS AS A SIGNATORY TO CHURCH FUNDS IN THE BANKS,OTHER MINISTERING PASTORS ARE UNDER THE CONTROL OF A WOMAN WHO IS ALSO A WIFE TO THE MAIN PASTOR, NAME ANY RICH PASTOR THAT DOES NOT HAVE THEIR WIVES IN THE FINANCIAL ASPECT OF THE CHURCH,

ARE WE RUNNING A PROFITABLE COMPANY?

OR IT IS EITHER YOU HAVE A PASTOR AND PASTOR MRS,HAVE YOU EVER ASK WHERE THE NOTION OF LADY OR WOMAN PASTOR COMES FROM?

IT VIOLENTLY VIOLATES THE BIBLE INSTRUCTION OF THE EARLY CHRISTIANS,READ YOURSELF;

1 corinthians 14;34,35

34, Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says. 35 If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church.

NOW THIS RICH PASTORS CHOOSE TO VIOLATES THIS INSTRUCTION,SO AS TO PAVE
WAY FOR THEIR WIFE TO RISE IN THE RANKS OF LEADING PASTORS OF A CHURCH TO BECOME 2ND IN COMMAND,TO SECURE THE WEALTH OF MONEIES ''IN THE FAMILY NAME'',
AND THIS IS JUST THE NORMAL PRACTICES OF THE RICH PASTORS,THEY IGNORE THE PARTERN SET OUT IN THE BIBLE TO FORM THEIR OWN ''WEALTH SECURITY'' SO WHERE IS GODS HOLY SPIRIT?

OTHER PASTORS ARE JUST ''FIGURE HEAD'' AND HANDICAPPED,IN THE CHURCH.

CONSIDER WHAT JESUS SAID ABOUT A MAN WHO WANT TO SERVE GOD;


21 Jesus answered, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”

22 When the young man heard this, he went away sad, because he had great wealth.

23 Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Truly I tell you, it is hard for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of heaven. 24 Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.”

JESUS EXPOSE THIS ATTACHMENT TO RICHES AS A GREAT BARRIER,AND HE HAS DRAWN A BATTLELINE THAT 'NO ONE CAN SERVE TWO MASTERS'',MATERIAL RICHES (DEMANDS ALL YOUR HEART AND CONCETRATION TO KEEP IT INCREASING) IS ''ONE MASTER,AND SERVING GOD TRUTHFULLY(DEMANDS YOU TO FORGO ALL VICES LIKE CHEATING,LYING,REFUSE BRIBE AND DISHONESTY IN ALL FORM)THAT  IS ''ANOTHER MASTER''

JESUS YOU CANNOT SLAVE FOR THE TWO MASTERS.BUT SOME ARE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH WHAT JESUS SAID AND THEY SAY YOU CAN SLAVE FOR BOTH.

SOME EVEN ARGUED THAT WHAT JESUS IS SAYING ONLY CONCERN RICHES ''NOT GIVEN BY GOD''

BUT THEN,KING SOLOMON ONLY ASK FOR WISDOM FROM GOD,BUT GOD GAVE HIM GREAT RICHES.WHAT HAPPENED WHEN HE CHOOSE TO BE DISTRACTED BY THE RICHES,HE GOT MARRIED TO BEAUTIFUL WOMEN WHO SERVE IDOLS,''BECAUSE HIS RICHES CAN AFFORD THAT''  HE FINNALLY TURN AWAY FRO GOD TO WORSHIP IDOLS IN HIS OLD AGE.

WHY CANT WE TELL OURSELVES THE TRUTH? PASTORS AND MATERIAL RICHES? DOES JESUS AND HIS DISCIPLES LIVED A RICH LIFE? JESUS WOULD HAVE OWNED WAGONS OF CAMELS OR DONKEYS,BUT APART FROM ONLY ONCE THAT HE USE TO FUFILL THE PROPHESY WHEN HE ENTERED JERUSALEM,HE NEVER SEE HAVING THEM AS A NECCESITY,EVEN APOSTLE PAUL LIVED A SACRIFICING LIFE AND BE A TENTMAKER NOT TO BE 'A BURDEN',HE SURFER SHIPWRECK SEVERALY AND LABOURED.

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[b]@kingoflag,

WHY VERNACULAR HERE? you should be ashamed of yourself,how many people understand your language when there is a common lingua franca?
YOU ARE NOT DIFFERENT FROM A 'VIRUS',absolutely waste of time responding to your comments.But for the last time;
IM NOT SURPRISED WITH YOUR INSULTS, IT IS A WEAKNESS IN YOU THAT HAS DEVELOPED OVER TIME IF NOT YEARS THAT YOUR PARENTS ARE DUMB TO NOTICE BUT HAS EVENTUALLY DEVELOPED TO 'A COMPLEX' AND FINALLY,A VIRUS,, WHAT A PITY.
YOU CANNOT EVEN WRITE A FULL SENTENCE WITHOUT CONTAMINATING IT WITH YOUR VIRUS THAT MUST MAKE SURE THAT THE SENTENCE MUST CONTAIN CURSE AND INSULT.

NOW LISTEN;

HE WHO LIVE BY THE SWORD SHALL DIE BY THE SWORD,AND SINCE YOU CHOOSE TO CURSE FIRST IN YOUR COMMENTS,IT BECOMES A DECREE THAT ALL CURSES IN ALL YOUR POSTS TO ANYBODY,THEIR GENERATIONS THAT YOU OFTEN MENTION ON NAIRALAND WHO NEVER OFFEND YOU BUT ONLY CONTRIBUTE THEIR OWN LOGICAL EXPRESSIONS ARE HEREBY DECLARED TO ''RETURN BACK TO YOU IMMIDIATELY WITHOUT DELAY''YOU SON OF THE DEVIL,I AND OTHER SONS OF GOD HAVE BEING LIBERATED FROM ALL YOKES. [/b]

[b]@Kingoflag,
YOUR DESPERATION IS TOO OBVIOUS,because you refuse be logical but rush into conclusion,Myopic and shortsighted not ready to be flexible or dynamic in approaching sensitive issues,
you did not aknowledge that;

Dezianni Allyson Madueke is not the biological mother of Ogonna Madueke, The minister Diezanni NEVER HAD A CHILD FOR MADUEKE, and Ogonna Madueke is her stepson,Deizani cant have total control over the boys the way it would had it been that she gave birth to the boys,and the boys are not under any constrains from the woman except ceremonial honor to just respect their fathers wife;Diezianni,she can only advise them. And that the Burden of responsibility fully lies on their  father ,Rear Admiral who should be blamed of permissiveness.
This argument based on above reasons can be sustained because it is practical that there is a limited control that you can exercise outside your biological ties.except you want to be reminded your boundary often,to your ridicle.

WHERE IS YOUR PROOF THAT SHE IS A ROGUE?
There is no established proof to nail this woman at least for now she remains innocent until proved otherwise in the court.
Your Quote below;that

(''WHEN YOUR MOTHER IS IN CHARGE OF PUBLIC FUNDS, EVEN IF SHE WAS ALREADY A BILLIONAIRE BEFORE ASSUMING HER GOVERNMENTAL POSITION, YOU HAVE TO BEHAVE WITH A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF DECORUM WHEN YOU ARE IN THE PUBLIC EYE'')

This above statement from you shows how illogical one can be when not tailoring his notion towards an established principle of law,and it shows that you are not ready to reason beyond your nose that HAD IT BEEN DEZIANNI ALLYSSON IS THE BOY'S BIOLOGICAL MOTHER, MAYBE THE BOY WOULD HAVE BEEN COERCED OR FORCED TO REASON ABOUT THE DANGER OF LIVING SUCH SEEMINGLY OPPULENCE LIFE,AND TO DROP THE IDEA.But you blindly cruise on with unsustainable arguments.

AGAIN,
You choose to misquote the boy ugonna's out of Context,its criminal to do that do you know that?  

HERE ARE Quotes from Ugonna Allisson Madueke,

(''It was a requirement of the society that we documented our fund raising success for a charitable course on behalf of the society I belonged to in the university. The society is called Alpha – Phi – Alpha University of Maryland Chapter'').

Ugonna states categorically the society freternity he belong to in Maryland,named Alpha-phi-Alpha, and THAT IT IS A REQUIREMENT OF THE SOCIETY THAT THEY DOCUMENT THEIR FUND RAISING SUCCESS, AND SINCE WHAT THEY DONATED AS A GROUP WAS CASH DONATION, THEY TOOK PICTURES HOLDING/FLIP THE CASH AFTER THE DONATIONS.

Maybe truth or not  you believe him or not, he has explain why he was seen with some other people holding cash.THE GOOD THING HERE IS THAT UGONNA HAS PUSH THE BURDEN OF PROOF TO YOU PARTICULARLY TO NOW PROVE WITHOUT REASONABLE DOUBT THAT;
he never attended the university of Maryland as he claimed,or
he never belong to the freternity he claimed,and that it is not the requirement of the society/freternity to document/pose with their cash donation.or proof from other sources that he own the private jet including proof of the parking space.
AND IF YOU CANT DO THAT,PLS SHUT YOUR MOUTH.
HEAR YOURSELF SAYING THAT (''which fraternity flips bundles if cash as a rite of ritual'')
I WANT TO ASK,DO YOU KNOW THE DOCTRINES OF ALL FRETERNITIES? BEFORE YOU ASSUME THAT EVERYONE SHOULD KNOW THE REQUIREMENTS OF ALL OF THEM,MAYBE YOU CAN EDUCATE US ON THAT.
IM SURPRISED WHEN YOU CHANGED WHAT UGONNA SAID THAT ''it was a requirement of the society'' WHICH YOU CHANGED TO ''a rite of ritual'' THIS PARTICULAR CHANCE AND REPLACEMENT BY YOU IN YOUR CONTEXT SHOWS GROSS MISREPRESENTATION,MISCHIEVIOUS IN ALL RAMIFICATIONS.
AND FURTHER HIGHLITES WHY YOU ARE DESPERATE.

YOU CAN CALL NAMES I DONT CARE,I NEVER EXPECT ANYTHING LESS ANYWAY.  ITS A SIGN OF WEAKNESS IN YOU.    
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@kingoflak,

who told you that Dezianni Allyson Madueke is the mother of Ogonna Madueke, The minister Diezanni NEVER HAD A CHILD FOR MADUEKE, and Ogonna Madueke is her stepson.Dont be too desperate,

it is only in Nigeria you buy luzury car or jets without minding the maintanance cost,even our Artists rent a lot,like Dbanj,does he own a limo? no dbanj does not own private jets or limo he uses in his videos.

Ogonna even went on to explain why he flips currency as 'the common attitude of the freternity'' like 50 cents flips moneys,woman and soon,well i think he learns better now that sharing confidential private imformation can be very dangerous, Deizani cant have total control over the boys because she is not their biological mother,their thaif father,Rear Admiral should be blamed of permissiveness.

[b]@Austinooo,

I WILL NOT NECCESARILY INSULT YOU BECAUSE YOU DEMANDED FOR AN ANSWER,

FIRSTLY WHO TOLD YOU THAT I AND SOME OTHER NIGERIA IS PART OF ANTI-FUEL SUBSIDY?

IN FACT I SUPPORT THE REMOVAL OF FUEL SUBSIDY, AND MY RIGHT OF OPINION SHOULD NOT BE NECCESARILY SHARED BY YOU OR OTHERS, BUT THEN I DID NOT GIVE MY CONSENT TO THESE ILLEGAL AND UNLAWFUL PROTESTERS WHO CHOOSE TO BREAK AN EXISTING LAW TO FURTHER THEIR SELFISH ENDS,

JUST SEE THE WORD THEY USED ''DEFY'',. JUST CHECK PEOPLE ON THIS TREAD OR TOPIC ALONE,MORE THAN HALF ARE AGAINST THIS PARTICULAR PROTEST BECAUSE IT LACKS MORALS,AND ITS MEANT FOR IMMORAL PEOPLE WHO SAW NOTHING WRONG IN CASTING A VERBAL INSULT TO THE PERSON OF MR PRESIDENT CALLING HIM ''BADLUCK'' WHEN HE IS STILL IN CHARGE,


HOW MUCH MORE A NEW PRESIDENT WHO IS NOT EVEN CLOSE TO HALF OF HIS TERM  IN OFFICE.

ANYWAY, THESE PROTESTERS CANNOT IN ANYWAY WHATSOEVER CLAIM THE TOTAL SUPPORT OF THE MAJORITY OF NIGERIANS,ITS CRIMINAL TO STEAL OR CLAIM THE MANDATE,CONSENT AND SUPPORT OF THOSE NOT SUPPORTING THEM,BECAUSE WE ALL HAVE DIFFERENT OPINION ON THESE ISSUES ON SUBSIDY AND THE RIGHT IS EXCLUSIVE OR UNCHALENGED OR TRANSFERABLE.

BESIDES IT IS ONLY LAGOS THAT SPEARHEAD THE PROTEST TO SHOW YOU THAT THEY HAVE THEIR PERSONAL AGENDA,OF WHICH WE(people of my opinion) ARE NOT PART OF.

LET THEM STOP USING THE WORD ''THE POOR NIGERIANS'' ITS NOT TRUE, POOR NIGERIANS HAVE MOVED ON WITH THEIR LIVES UNLIKE LAST WEEK,

EXCUSE ME JARE.    
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[b]DO I HEAR APOLOGY FOR STEALING OIL MONIES THROUGH TINUBU (OANDO) 1ST ON THE LIST OF CABALS WITH 300BILLION ANNUAL THEFT TO FUND ACN?IS THE OIL FROM YOUR FAAATHERS LAND. Aitete mu ole,ole wa nmu oloko.

ONE WOULD WONDER WHY ONLY LAGOS STATE GOT THE MONEY TO FUND PROTEST OVER FUEL THEY DONT PRODUCE AT LEAST JONATHAN CAME FROM WHERE THE OIL IS PRODUCED SO WHY THE NOISE?,THE LITTLE REVENUE GENERATED WERE SHARED BY THE OWAMBES.

NOW LISTEN,

THE SEAT OF THE GOVERNMENT IS ABUJA, NOT LAGOS, YOU CANT HAVE TWO DRIVERS CONTROLLING A CAR,NO,ONE HAVE TO GIVE WAY, SO IF FASHOLA THINKS HE CAN OPERATE ALLIEN TO ABUJA,THEN THE NEXT HE WILL BE REPLACED BY AN ADMINISTRATOR AND HIS STATE WILL JOIN MAIDUGURI,YOBE ETC IN THE STATE OF EMERGENCY.

JONATHAN IS THE ''COMMANDER IN CHIEF OF THE ARMED FORCES'' and WHEN FASHOLA DOES NOT KNOW WHAT HE WAS DOING,THE 'VETO' POWER CONFERED ON THE PRESIDENT,EXCLUSIVE AND UNCHALLENGED RIGHT IN IMMIDIATE APPLICATION OR THE SUPPERIOR POWER OVER A STATE ,THE ''COMMANDER IN CHIEF'' JUST MAKE THE LAGOSIANS TO FEEL THE 'AROMA' AND THE NOICE RIDICULOUSLY WENT DOWN,WHAT A COWARD.

HE MAY LOOK WEAK BUT,HE JUST COUGH NOW AND THE WHOLE LAGOS IS SILENCED,
THE SLOWLINESS OF A LEOPARD SHOULD NOT BE MISTAKEN FOR FEAR,

ANYWAY,I EXPECT MANY TO INSULT,CALL NAMES WHO CARES,ITS A SIGN OF WEAKNESS SO GO ON,
NOW NORMALCY RETURNS TO LAGOS?,INCREDIBLE.[/b]

[right][/right][b]@Ephraim Emeka Ugwuonye, Esquire

President

ECULAW GROUP

DO YOU KNOW THAT YOUR WRITE UP ABOVE DOES NOT HOLD A WATER AT ALL?
ITS NOT POSSIBLE TO EASILY 'BRAINWASH' AVERAGE NIGERIANS BY SUCH WRITE UP,

I SUSPECT YOUR BEING DESPERATE,AT LEAST YOU ADMITTED TO ''SMUGGLE WITH THE HELP OF SOME PEOPLE YOU CANNOT DISCLOSE'' SOME PAPERS YOU CLAIMED WAS RELEASED TO THE WORLD INSTEAD OF NIGERIANS WHO NEEDED IT MOST  BEFORE THE  WORLD.
SO IT MEANS THAT YOU HAVE A NETWORK OR WORK WITH A NETWORK THAT LEAKS INFORMATION ENTRUSTED ON YOU TO ANOTHER PARTY.
CAN YOU CONVINCE ME THAT IF YOU ENTER NNPC,YOU WILL NOT FORM A BIGGER NETWORK TO LOOT THE COUNTRY,FORGET YOUR STORY OF BEING LURED TO JOIN IN LOOTING FRENZY WITHOUT ANY ACCOMPANYING CLAIM,ITS TOO CHEAP.

LOOK,LAWYERS AND JUDICIARY HAVE LOST ITS RELEVANCE DUE TO CURRUPTION IN NIGERIA,THE WORST LAWYERS ARE THE NIGERIAN LAWYERS SKILLED IN COOKING UP COUNTER STORY TO SUPRESS THE TRUTH.I DONT BELIEVE THEM,FORGET THEIR DRAMA IN COURT THEY ARE INSINCERE,AND ARE EASILY COMPROMISED.WHY 3 SAN STANDING FOR ONE OF THE CABAL BOLA TINUBU (OANDO OIL) WHEN ONLY ONE LAWYER CAN DO SAME JOB.MONEY,IS IT NOT?

LISTEN,THE SUBSIDY PROVIDES A PLATFORM FOR MASSIVE LOOTING BY THE CABALS,WHO HAVE BOUGHT OVER THE JUDICIARY,
AND YOU ARE HERE COOKING A COUNTER STORY HERE HOW YOU SMUGGLE SOMETHING TO THE WORLD.JUST HEAR YOURSELF. YOU CAN CALL NAMES BUT THATS TRUE.   [/b]

[b] I THINK EVERYONE CAN SEE NOW THAT IF YOU FOLLOW LAGOSIANS OR LISTEN TO THEIR EMPTY THREATS,THEY WILL USE YOU.COWARDS,mother of all strike koo father of all strike nii.they started comparing theirselves to syria egypt and libya where real shooting occur everyday and they are not intimidated but carry-on,TODAY ONLY TEAR GAS AND FEW GUN SHOTS,NA RUN.SOME just participated in morning frog jump,its good for the body,but not under soldier's supervision anyway.

ONE WOULD WONDER WHY ONLY LAGOS STATE GOT THE MONEY TO FUND PROTEST OVER FUEL THEY DONT PRODUCE AT LEAST JONATHAN CAME FROM WHERE THE OIL IS PRODUCED SO WHY THE NOISE?,

THE SEAT OF THE GOVERNMENT IS ABUJA, NOT LAGOS, YOU CANT HAVE TWO DRIVERS CONTROLLING A CAR,NO,ONE HAVE TO GIVE WAY, SO IF FASHOLA THINKS HE CAN OPERATE ALLIEN TO ABUJA,THEN THE NEXT HE WILL BE REPLACED BY AN ADMINISTRATOR AND HIS STATE WILL JOIN MAIDUGURI,YOBE ETC IN THE STATE OF EMERGENCY.

JONATHAN IS THE ''COMMANDER IN CHIEF OF THE ARMED FORCES'' and WHEN FASHOLA DOES NOT KNOW WHAT HE WAS DOING,THE 'VETO' POWER CONFERED ON THE PRESIDENT,EXCLUSIVE AND UNCHALLENGED RIGHT IN IMMIDIATE APPLICATION OR THE SUPPERIOR POWER OVER A STATE ,THE ''COMMANDER IN CHIEF'' JUST MAKE THE LAGOSIANS TO FEEL THE 'AROMA' AND THE NOICE RIDICULOUSLY WENT DOWN,WHAT A COWARD.

HE MAY LOOK WEAK BUT,HE JUST COUGH NOW AND THE WHOLE LAGOS IS SILENCED,
THE SLOWLINESS OF A LEOPARD SHOULD NOT BE MISTAKEN FOR FEAR,

ANYWAY,I EXPECT MANY TO INSULT,CALL NAMES WHO CARES,ITS A SIGN OF WEAKNESS SO GO ON,
NOW NORMALCY RETURNS TO LAGOS?,INCREDIBLE.
 
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[b]@Ebosed
why do you want to shy away now?you would have spearhead a group and force yourselves inside fawehinmi park and you go Down in history as a hero.
INSTEAD OF CLAIMING CHEAP GLORY,LET ME REFRESH YOUR MEMORY MAYBE YOU THOUGHT WE ARE THE FORGOTTEN TYPE,
GOODLUCK JONATHAN BECAME THE PRESIDENT OF NIGERIA EXCLUSIVELY BY GODS DESIGN,

from deputy Gov,to Gov. from vice President To president,

TO SHOW THAT YOU GUYS ARE GLORY HUNTERS, WHERE WERE YOU WHEN HE STARTS FROM THE SCRATCH TILL GOVERNOR? HE WAS ENTITITLED AS THE PRESIDENT AND HE BECAME THE PRESIDENT BEFORE THE ELECTION, he did not just contest as a candidate but a super candidate per excelence,

HE IS THE ''COMMANDER IN CHIEF OF THE ARMED FORCES'' and WHEN FASHOLA DOES NOT KNOW WHAT HE WAS DOING,THE 'VETO' POWER CONFERED ON THE PRESIDENT,EXCLUSIVE AND UNCHALLENGED IN IMMIDIATE APPLICATION OR THE SUPPERIOR POWER OVER A STATE ,THE ''COMMANDER IN CHIEF'' JUST MAKE THE LAGOSIANS TO FEEL THE 'AROMA' AND THE NOICE RIDICULOUSLY WENT DOWN,WHAT A COWARD.

ONE WOULD WONDER WHY ONLY LAGOS STATE GOT THE MONEY TO FUND PROTEST OVER FUEL THEY DONT PRODUCE AT LEAST JONATHAN CAME FROM WHERE THE OIL IS PRODUCED SO WHY THE NOISE?,THE SEAT OF THE GOVERNMENT IS ABUJA, NOT LAGOS, YOU CANT HAVE TWO DRIVERS CONTROLLING A CAR,NO,ONE HAVE TO GIVE WAY, SO IF FASHOLA THINKS HE CAN OPERATE ALLIEN TO ABUJA,THEN THE NEXT HE WILL BE REPLACED BY AN ADMINISTRATOR AND HIS STATE WILL JOIN MAIDUGURI,YOBE ETC IN THE STATE OF EMERGENCY.
HE MAY LOOK WEAK BUT,HE JUST COUGH NOW AND THE WHOLE LAGOS IS SILENCED,
THE SLOWLINESS OF A LEOPARD SHOULD NOT BE MISTAKEN FOR FEAR,

ANYWAY,I EXPECT MANY TO INSULT,CALL NAMES WHO CARES,ITS A SIGN OF WEAKNESS SO GO ON,
NOW NORMALCY RETURNS TO LAGOS?,INCREDIBLE.
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@Ebosed
why do you want to shy away now?you would have spearhead a group and force yourselves inside fawehinmi park and you go Down in history as a hero.
INSTEAD OF CLAIMING CHEAP GLORY,LET ME REFRESH YOUR MEMORY MAYBE YOU THOUGHT WE ARE THE FORGOTTEN TYPE,
GOODLUCK JONATHAN BECAME THE PRESIDENT OF NIGERIA EXCLUSIVELY BY GODS DESIGN,

from deputy Gov,to Gov. from vice President To president,

TO SHOW THAT YOU GUYS ARE GLORY HUNTERS, WHERE WERE YOU WHEN HE STARTS FROM THE SCRATCH TILL GOVERNOR? HE WAS ENTITITLED AS THE PRESIDENT AND HE BECAME THE PRESIDENT BEFORE THE ELECTION, he did not just contest as a candidate but a super candidate per excelence,

HE IS THE ''COMMANDER IN CHIEF OF THE ARMED FORCES'' and WHEN FASHOLA DOES NOT KNOW WHAT HE WAS DOING,THE 'VETO' POWER CONFERED ON THE PRESIDENT,EXCLUSIVE AND UNCHALLENGED IN IMMIDIATE APPLICATION OR THE SUPPERIOR POWER OVER A STATE ,THE ''COMMANDER IN CHIEF'' JUST MAKE THE LAGOSIANS TO FEEL THE 'AROMA' AND THE NOICE RIDICULOUSLY WENT DOWN,WHAT A COWARD.

ONE WOULD WONDER WHY ONLY LAGOS STATE GOT THE MONEY TO FUND PROTEST OVER FUEL THEY DONT PRODUCE AT LEAST JONATHAN CAME FROM WHERE THE OIL IS PRODUCED SO WHY THE NOISE?,THE SEAT OF THE GOVERNMENT IS ABUJA, NOT LAGOS, YOU CANT HAVE TWO DRIVERS CONTROLLING A CAR,NO,ONE HAVE TO GIVE WAY, SO IF FASHOLA THINKS HE CAN OPERATE ALLIEN TO ABUJA,THEN THE NEXT HE WILL BE REPLACED BY AN ADMINISTRATOR AND HIS STATE WILL JOIN MAIDUGURI,YOBE ETC IN THE STATE OF EMERGENCY.
HE MAY LOOK WEAK BUT,HE JUST COUGH NOW AND THE WHOLE LAGOS IS SILENCED,
THE SLOWLINESS OF A LEOPARD SHOULD NOT BE MISTAKEN FOR FEAR,

ANYWAY,I EXPECT MANY TO INSULT,CALL NAMES WHO CARES,ITS A SIGN OF WEAKNESS SO GO ON,
NOW NORMALCY RETURNS TO LAGOS?,INCREDIBLE.

[b]FORUMITES, FORUMITES, FORUM-ITES, HOW MANY TIME DID I CALL YOU?

it will SHOCK you to know that many on this forum who spearhead condeming this particular investigation are TINUBU followers who have got their hands soiled,and just note their comments as the investigation goes on,
THEY WILL DO EVERYTHIN TO RUBBISH THE INVESTIGATION BY SAYING THAT ITS SELECTIVE,OR BASED ON PARTY DIFFERENCES BUT SHY AWAY FROM THE FACT THAT THE OFFENCES WERE REALLY COMMITED BY THE LEADERS THEY FOLLOW.it is advisable not to join issues with them because they have no morals in anywaywhatsoever.
PLS NOTE THE FIRST ON THE LIST ACCORDING TO THEIR MONIES BEFOREHAND NOW BEFORE THESE INDIVIDUALS STARTS THEIR SHOUTING BECAUSE THEY WANT TO MAKE PEOPLE BELIEVE THAT THEIR IS NO CABAL ANYWHERE,

BUT FIGURES HERE SHOWS, The full list of cabals, and their individual haul, as read out by Senator Abe,
is as followsNOTE THAT THE FIRST IS OANDO OWNED BY ASIWAJU BOLA TINUBU,his younger brother wale tinubu is just a figure head,pls let us hail the 'leader' ASIWAJU means 'leader' in yoruba language,and true to his name HE IS THE ASIWAJU AWON OLE, leader of the thiefs,its not written by me but was read out by senator Abe),check google yourself type keyword cabals exposed by senator Magnus Abe,;

1. Oando Nigerian Plc. – N228.506 billion

2. MRS –N224.818 billion

3. Pinnacle Construction-N300 billion

4. Enak Oil & Gas –N19.684 billion

5. CONOIl – N37.960 billion

6. Bovas & Co. Nig. Ltd. – N5.685 billion,

7. Obat N85 billion and AP; N104.5billion.

8. Folawiyo Oil - N113.3 billion

9. 8.IPMAN Investment Limited- N10.9billion

10. ACON - N24.1billion

11. Atio Oil-N64.4billion

12. AMP- N11.4billion

13. Honeywell-N12.2billion

14. Emac Oil- N19.2billion

15. D.Jones Oil-N14.8billion;

16. Capital Oil - N22.4 billion

17. AZ Oil- N18.613billion

18. Eterna oil- N5.57 billion

19. Dozil oil- N3.375 billion

20. Fort oil-N8.582 billion.

21. Integrated Oil and Gas- N30.777 billion



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[b]@Brainpulse,

BECAUSE YOU CHOOSE TO COMPARE MOSES WITH PASTOR BAKARE,and claimed that people dont read bible,
LETS  COMPARE;
MOSES WAS A STAMMERER he deemed himself unfit innitially because he stammer or a stammerer, But God said he will support him to carry on the commission to lead his people out of egypt, (Exodus 4;10-12.)

Now do the people of God,the isrealites believed in Moses without element of doubt WHEN FACED WITH DIFFICULTY IN THE WILDERNESS? NO?

Exodus 14;11.READS;

(  They said to Moses, "Was it because there were no graves in Egypt that you brought us to the desert to die? What have you done to us by bringing us out of Egypt?)
SOME ROSE UP AMONG THE ISREALITES CHALENGING THE MAN OF GOD MOSES,using the advantage of the hardship they face in the wildernes and these individuals succeeded separating  Gods people,read yourselve in your own bible,but then i quote;
Nunbers 16;1-3,

16:1, Now Korah, the son of Izhar, the son of Kohath, the son of Levi, and Dathan and Abiram, the sons of Eliab, and On, the son of Peleth, sons of Reuben, took men:

16:2 And they rose up before Moses, with certain of the children of Israel, two hundred and fifty princes of the assembly, famous in the congregation, men of renown:

16:3 And they gathered themselves together against Moses and against Aaron, and said unto them, Ye take too much upon you, seeing all the congregation are holy, every one of them, and the LORD is among them: wherefore then lift ye up yourselves above the congregation of the LORD?

Back to our discussion,

JONATHAN SAID THAT 'HE HAD NO SHOES' BUT EVENTUALLY BECAME THE LEADER,THE PRESIDENT,
DOES THAT MEAN THAT IN CARRYING OUT HIS DUTIES SUCCESSFULLY WE ARE NOT GOING TO EXPERIENCE INNITAL HARDSHIP?LIKE THE ISREALITE.

IF GOD CAN CHOOSE A LEADER IN THE MANNER OR CHARACTER OF PRESIDENT JONATHAN,LOOKING CALM BUT VERY CAREFUL, LIKE MOSES SHOWS THAT GODS ASSISTANCE SHOULD BE SOUGHT BY THE PEOPLE TO BOLSTER THE PRESIDENT TO DIRECTS HIM THROUGH THE RIGHT PATH WHEN FACED WITH SOME DIFFICULTIES,THERE SHUOLD BE ''UNITY OF THOUGHT,AND PETITION TOWARDS GOD'' .AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE CASE OF THE ISREALITES IN THE WILDERNESS THERE IS ALWAYS BOUND TO EXPERIENCE SOME DIFFICULTY TO ACHIEVE GREATNESS,
ITS UNFAIR TO TAKE THE ADVANTAGE OF THAT FOR MISREPRESENTATION THEREBY MAGNIFYING THE PROBLEM IN ORDER TO DIVERT ATTENTION,it may be acceptable in dirty politics but its not meant for a man of God who would not want to stumble others as a leader,in fact a man of God should just pause and think that,''WOULD JESUS CONSIDER PLAYING DIRTY POLITICS''?.

IM TALKING FROM THE CHRISTIAN POINT OF VIEW,
PASTOR BAKARE HAS DEMOSTRATED UNRESTRAINED AND UNGUARDED BEHAVIOR THAT CAN ONLY BE COMPARED TO 'AGBERO' AND NOT AS ''A BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN''
AND I WANT TO USE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO COUNSEL THE PERSON OF Brainpulse (the poster) that if you dont have good facts about a bible prophets,dont just apply or compare them because you will not have explanations when met with facts, (Brainpulse) could not reply when he was met with logical accounts of the prophets he quoted,do i agree he ran out of facts?.  


 
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[b]@Brainpulse,
DO YOU READ BIBLE AT ALL? OR YOU ALLOW PASTORS TO READ FOR YOU,I DONT THINK YOU ACTUALLY READ ABOUT THOSE BIBLE PROPHETS YOU COMPARED TO PASTOR BAKARE.
NOW LISTEN,LETS START WITH YOUR LIES OF  FEW OF THE FIRST FIVE PROPHETS YOU LISTED,BECAUSE OF TIME.
(1)NEHEMIAH;you state and i quote(''Nehemiah stood against the kings to build the ruins of Jerusalem'')
My response;, Nehemiah did not stand Against the king as you claimed,he is the king's (Arterxerxes) cup bearer,his humility to remain loyal and obedient to the king despite his not being happy with the state of jrusalem,he started his talk to the king by saying ''May the king live forever''this humble attitude was noticed by the king when the king recognise the mood on nehemiah's face,the king himself invites nehemiah to make his demand and it was granted because of humility displayed by nehemiah.THIS IS TOTALLY IN CONTRAST WITH PASTOR BAKARE WHO DIRECTLY INSULT 'THE PERSON' OF PRESIDENT GOODLUCK JONATHAN,A MAN OF GOD REMAINS CALM AND WELLBEHAVED AS AN EXAMPLE AS LEADER.read the account yourselves

NEHEMIAH 2;1-5 reads,(1 And it came to pass in the month of Nisan, in the twentieth year of King Artaxerxes, when wine was before him, that I took the wine and gave it to the king. Now I had never been sad in his presence before. 2 Therefore the king said to me, “Why is your face sad, since you are not sick? This is nothing but sorrow of heart.”
So I became dreadfully afraid, 3 and said to the king, “May the king live forever! Why should my face not be sad, when the city, the place of my fathers’ tombs, lies waste, and its gates are burned with fire?”
4 Then the king said to me, “What do you request?”
So I prayed to the God of heaven. 5 And I said to the king, “If it pleases the king, and if your servant has found favor in your sight, I ask that you send me to Judah, to the city of my fathers’ tombs, that I may rebuild it.”

(2)DANIEL;,also is very respectfull in adressing the king,read Daniel 4;19, he adress the king as ''o my lord'' not calling him nebuckadnezzar but humbly adress him by his title,that is noteworthy.
(3)MOSES;is described as the ''meekest man on earth''((Num 12;3), he humbly accept the commission to lead Gods people out of egypt,he deemed himself unfit innitially because he stammer or a stammerer,you said he is a freedom fighter,but see the way he approach pharoah,saying ''this is what the lord has said''he is never
rude to pharaoh, because he was sent with the message and he was humble to even qualify before God.
(4)ISAIAH; also address the king as ''oh my king'' demostrating humility.
(5)ELIJAH; only spearhead the true worship of GOD,against worship of baal,and the only encounter he had was with jezebel,so,where do you see your own 'treatment of Gods people'?
THE PROPHETS YOU QUOTED WERE RESPECTFULL IN ''ADDRESSING'' THE AUTHORITIES,THEIR OFFICE,THEIR PERSONS,AND THEIR TITLES BEFORE THEY DELIVER THE MESSAGE THEY ARE SENT.
PASTOR BAKARE BETRAYS ALL OF THIS,
AND YOUR CHOICE OF THE BIBLE PROPHETS SHOWS THAT YOU DONT READ THE BIBLE.i chalenge you to reply WITH BIBLE PROOFS,this is not argument but to learn IF YOU ARE VERY SURE OF YOURSELF.no name calling.   [/b]

[b]DON'T BE FOOLED PLS FORUMITES, IT IS WISE TO 'STOP AND REASON' ON YOUR OWN WEATHER A PIECE OF IMFORMATION IS TRUE AND FROM A RELIABLE SOURCE BEFORE YOU REACT PLS,SO AS TO BE WISE, I BELIEVE THAT WE ARE WISE AND INTELLIGENT PEOPLE WITH GOOD INTENTION,BUT DONT FIX  YOUR JEWELRIES OR PRECIOUS VALUES ON THE NOSE OF A PIG,WHO WILL EVENTUALLY RUB IT OVER AND OVER IN THE MUD .BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE ARE JUST SITTING IN A CORNER 'WINDING A CLOCK' AND MAKES YOU TO DO THE NOISE,THEY COOKED UP STORIES IN ANTICIPATION OF YOUR PRECIOUS CONTRIBUTION ONLY FOR MISREPRESENTATION,PLS KNOW THE SOURCE OF IMFOMATION BEFORE YOU COMMENT.MY ADVICE IS OPTIONAL BASED ON WISE USE OF TIME AND RESOURCES,thanks.[b]

PEOPLE THAT SUPPORT THE REMOVAL OF SUBSIDY ARE ACTUALLY MORE ON THIS PARTICULAR THREAD PLEASE COUNT FOR YOURSELF NOW AS AT PAGE 5, AT 11: 55 am, TODAY MORE THAN THOSE WHO ARE NOT IN SOPPORT OF THE REMOVAL OF FUEL SUBSIDY,HOW DO THEY ARRIVE AT 24 PER CENT? DOES THIS FIGURE ACTUALLY REPRESENT THE TRUE STATE OF NIGERIAN? AND WHAT IS NOTEWORTHY IS THAT THOSE THAT ARE AGAINST THE REMOVAL ARE SHYING AWAY FROM QUESTION OR MAKE DIRECT INSULT FIRST AND ABANDON THE QUESTION,THAT SHOWS WEAKNESS ON THEIR PART, CAN ANYONE PLS OBSERVE UP TILL THIS PAGE WHO IS MORE? I THINK THOSE WHO ARE IN SUPPORT HAVE CONSTRUCTIVE AND FOCUSED POINTS,BUT THOSE AGAINST SAY THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER ''THE TRUST'',THEN WHY NOT EDUCATE THEM RATHER THAN REMAINING MYOPIC OR SHORT OF IDEAS,MAJORITY OF MOST PEOPLE THAT VOTED AGAINST I THING NEEDED SOME EDUCATION

[b]ASIWAJU AWON OLE,true to his name, The first name of the list of cabal according to their stolen monies is Oando,owned by BOLA TINUBU but put his youger brother as a frontier,list of the cabals as published by the link below,;

Oando Nigerian Plc. – N228.506 b,
MRS – N224.818 billion,
Enak Oil & Gas – N19.684 billion,
CONOIl – N37.960 billion,
Bovas & Co. Nig. Ltd. – N5.685 billion,
Obat N85 billion and
AP; N104.5billion.

Other members.

Folawiyo Oil - N113.3billion;
IPMAN Investment Limited- N10.9billion;
ACON - N24.1billion, Atio Oil-N64.4billion,
AMP- N11.4billion;
Honeywell-N12.2billion;
Emac Oil- N19.2billion;
D.Jones Oil-N14.8billion;
Capital Oil - N22.4billion;
AZ Oil- N18.613billion;
Eterna oil- N5.57 billion;
Dozil oil- N3.375 billion;
and Fort oil-N8.582 billion.

Also, Integrated Oil and Gas owned by former Minister of Interior, Capt. Emmanuel Iheanacho was mentioned and is said to have benefitted to the tune of N30.777 billion, while IPMAN Investment Limited pocketed the sum of N10.9 billion


Read more: http://www..com/ng/oils-reports-and-issues/11856-nigeria-oil-subsidy-problem-list-of-some-cabal-members.html#ixzz1jC5yw5XQ

CHECK OWNER OF Oando on google,search yourself, and see shamefull animals celebrated as asiwaju ole.
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[b]TIMES LIKE THIS YOU KNOW TRUE FOLLOWERS WITH GENUINETY,I SALLUTE THE COURAGE OF JONATHAN,HIS DECISION ON SUBSIDY IRRESPECTIVE OF WHO IS WHO (except the temporary pain to the masses) IS WORTH COMMENDATION, WHEN MANY PEOPLE ARE HAILING YOU WHEN YOU TAKE POPULAR DECISION,YOU ARE IN TROUBLE, BUT WHEN YOU CAREFULLY TAKE UNPORPULAR BUT BENEFICIAL LONG TERM DECISION THEN YOU SEE THEIR TRUE COLORS,
WHERE ARE PASTORS NOW?THEY ARE CONFUSED AND MOST COULD NOT HAVE FAITH IN JONATHAN AGAIN,WHERE IS TB JOSHUA? NO PREDICTION? ON WHAT REALLY THREATEN THE PEACE OF A COUNTRY? HE SEEMED TO BE SILENCE WHEN NEEDED MOST,BUT COULD QUICKLY FORSEE OUR FOOTBALL SUCCESS BECAUSE THERE IS MONEY IN FOOTBALL,THIS IS NOT THE CHARASTERISTICS OF THE BIBLE PROPHETS LIKE   ELIJAH, ELISHA OR EVEN JOSEPH WHO ACCURATELY REVEALED OCCURENCE OF THE FUTURE TO PHARAOH ABOUT PESTILENCE AND FOOD SHORTAGES IN EGYPT FOR 7YRS AND ALSO PROFER SOLUTION AND IT JUST HAPPENED. PASTOR BAKARE IS A DISGRACE IN TOTALITY AND IN ALL RAMIFICATION AND I PITY HIS CHURCH FOLLOWERS,HE FREQUENTS THE LABOUR PROTEST AT OJOTA MORE THAN ANY CELEBRITY FOR THE FOURTH  DAY AND EVEN CALLED SOME LINKS TO THE MASSES TO VOTE TODAY,THATS WHY I SAID THAT THE WHOLE LABOUR THING IS JUST A CHARADE TO DECEIVE NIGERIANS AND THE TRUE SPONSORS ARE POLITICIANS.
EVEN THIS PARTICULAR POLL ON THIS PAGE MAY BE PASTOR BAKARE,SHAME ON HIM AND ALL THE FAKE MEN OF GOD.
PASTOR CHRIS OKOTIE CALLED OF A NEW YEAR SERVICE IN LAGOS,WHERE ARE HIS MIRACLE POWERS?CANT HE COMMAND ANY BOMB PLANTED AGAINST THE  CHURCH 'BACK TO SENDER'? SO HE LOVED HIMSELF MORE THAN GOD SERVICE. LET ME REFRESH MEMORIES,IN THE BIBLE,A PROPHET CALLED DANIEL WAS BANNED NOT TO PRAY TO GOD[b][/b][/b] BUT TO THE KING,AND IT WAS DECREED OR PASSED ON TO LAW.BUT DID DANIEL STOP PRAYING DUE TO THREATS?NO, HE ACTUALLY OPENED HIS WINDOWS WHENEVER HE WANTS TO PRAY,HE WAS ARRESTED AND THROWN INTO THE LIONS DEN,BUT GOD INTEVENED,HE WAS'NT HURT, BUT RATHER THOSE WHO CONSPIRED WERE CONSUMED BY THE LION.
I EXPECT 'BACK TO SENDER' FROM CHRIS OKOTIE'.
ON PASTOR BAKARE,JUST A NOISE MAKER,I WOULD'NT BE SURPRISED IF HE STILL TURN UP TOMMORROW TO TAKE OVER LABOUR CAMPAIGN TO POLITICS.  

WHAT DO YOU EXPECT FROM MISIMFORMED YOUTH BY MISCHEVIOUS POLITICIANS SEIZING THE OPPORTUNITY TO CAMPAIGN,HOW MANY NIGERIANS REALLY UNDERSTANDS SUBSIDY? IT PORTENDS NEGATIVITY TO THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE,AND THOSE WHO TRULY KNOWS THE MEANING CAPITALISE OR STRESSES ITS NEGATIVE IMPACT TO SYMPATHISE WITH THE IGNORANT AND OVERBLOW IT NOT AS TEMPORARY BUT A WAY TO SUFFER THEM, THE SUBSIDY REMOVAL IS THE BEST THING THAT CAN EVER HAPPEN TO THE COUNTRY,YES I SUPPORT.

[b]MANY PEOPLE COMMENTING HERE ARE INEXPERIENCED AND MAYBE NOT UP TO 40 YRS, age is not a standard,but when a generation of 'TOO KNOW' and short sighted believing only in what they get from something instantly and lack patience is not only bad but is a generation heading for doom.
HOW CAN SOMEONE BE CALLING FOR MILLITARY TAKE OVER,AND ALL YOUR FREEDOM TO BE AIRED OR BEING HEARD WILL FIRST BE REMOVED,
BUHARI JAILED FELA KUTI FOR TEN YEARS FOR MAKING CRITISCM OF HIS GOVT AFTER HE COULD NOT WAIT TO CONTEST ELECTION BUT THROUGH A BLOODY COUP HE TOPPLED A DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED PRESIDENT OF SHAGARI,MANY NEWSPAPER WERE SHUT DOWN,BEKO RANSOME KUTI WAS DETAINED BY BUHARI,NOTHING IMPROVED UNDER THE SO CALLED DISCIPLINE CAMPAIGN,HE WAS TOPPLED BY IBB AND ARRESTED AND HE (BUHARI WAS DETAINED FROM 1985-1988)AND SINCE THEN IT WAS ONE NORTHERN MILITARY TO ANOTHER THAT PRODUCE ABACHA ONLY FOR GODS INTERVENTION A SOUTHERN PRESIDENT EMERGED OUT OF POLITICAL CALCULATION.AND EACH TIME A SOUTHERN BECOME A PRESIDENT THE NORTH STARTS A PROBLEM.
THE FUEL SUBSIDY ISSUE WAS DISCUSSED AND WHY CANT HAVE PATIENCE?
WHY ARE WE LIKE THE UNGRATEFULL ISREALITES OF THE BIBLE SHOWING LITTLE FAITH,
UNCULTURED SET OF PEOPLE WITH NO PRINCIPLES GUIDING THEIR UTERANCES AND BEHAVIOR.I DONT THINK ANY ELDERLY ONE WILL REASON THAT WAY.
LET HAVE A WAITING ATTITUDE PLS,WE ARE ALL NIGERIANS SUFFERING SAME FATE,BUT IT WONT LAST. [/b]

why did buhari now become apologist,is it because those who witness the 1983 overthrow are not commenting on this page.?

[b]LETS ASK OURSEVES SINCERE QUESTION?
DID BUHARI BELIEVED IN DEMOCRACY?
WHY CAN'T HE WAIT TO BE ELECTED IN BUT OVERTHROW A DEMOCRATIC GOVERNMENT OF SHAGARI IN 1983 IN A BLOODY COUP THAT KILLED MANY NIGERINS,I STAND TO BE CORRECTED.AND WHY WAS HE ARRESTED AND DETAINED IN BENIN PRISON FROM 1985-1988 BY IBB?.

BUHARI BANNED THE PRESS,BANNED STRIKES BY ANY GROUP,WHICH IS ALLOWED BY DEMOCRACY,BUT HE STAMP HIS MILITARY AUTHORITY DECLARING PRESS FREEDOM ILLEGAL ,HE HATES TO BE CORRECTED OR CRITICISED,
FELA KUTI WAS SENTENCED TO 10 YRS IN PRISON BY BUHARI.BEKO RANSOME KUTI WAS DETAINED BY BUHARI WHEN HE LED A RALLY FOR DECLINING HEALTH SECTOR.

SO THE FREEDOM GRANTED BY DEMOCRACY WHICH ALLOW YOU AND I TO BE HEARD OR READ ON NAIRALAND OR IN PRESS,HE DOES'NT BELIEVE IN IT.

SO HOW COULD THIS MAN BE THE SAVIOR?PLS CHECK HIS PROFILES.HE THROWS NIGERIA TO THE MILITARY RULE THAT MISMANAGED OUR BILLIONS
FROM 1983 TO 1998 15YRS OF MILLITARY RULE,NIGERIANS CRIED FOR FREEDOM OF PRESS,EXPRESSION AND TO RETURN TO DEMOCRACY AND NOT THE IRON FIST OF MILLITARY,BUT THEN,
WHY EACH TIME THE SOUTH BECOMES THE PRESIDENT,VIOLENCE START FROM THE NORTH,?
pls anyone with logical answers and solution should respond,i want to learn,but pls,dont quote me out of context.im waiting.[/b]

WHY IS IT THAT WHENEVER THE PRESIDENCY COMES FROM THE SOUTH, YOU SEE VIOLENCE STARTS,IGNITES AND SPEARHEADED FROM THE NORTHERN PART With due respect to all,i salute your courage and analysis,i understand your frustration expecially if you witness the bomb scene,you cant but vent your anger,but then i will advice those with good intention not to join issues with SOME WHO HAVE CREPT IN USING THE ADVANTAGE OF THIS CRISIS TO CONFUSE US SO THAT WE ARE CARRIED AWAY WITH THEIR EVIL PLAN,THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE PRETENDERS AND THEY PRETEND TO SYMPATHYSE BUT HAVE THEIR OWN HIDDEN PLANS,YOU WILL RECOGNISE THEM WHEN YOU ASK THEM TO GIVE YOU THEIR OWN VIEW OR SOLUTION,THEY WILL EITHER KEEP QUIET OR DIVERT THE ISSUE BUT RATHER THEY FAN SENTIMENTS TO CONFUSE JUST WATCH OUT, but then i want to add my candid opinion,i am a southern christian and have lived in the north precisely in kaduna and zaria and kano between 1990-2002, i can say that i know how the average northerner reason.and if we must accept the truth,THERE IS A WORLD OF DIFFERENCE between the south and the north,in a nutshell,the south values life;the right to live and respect to humans life,far more than the northerner.LETS NOW LOGICALLY ANALYSE,no name calling or insult here to divert issues pls.starting from our independence till date we have 51 yrs,and the north have ruled for 37 yrs leaving 14yrs for the south,that is they have ruled the nation more than twice of south's and i want to commend the south that they developed themselves without waiting for any leader,yoruba, igbo and others in the central are more educated and those who choose trading i mean the igbo are doing very well EVEN WITHOUT GOVERNMENT SUPPORT ,COMPARED TO THE NORTH THAT HAVE BEEN IN POWER EVER SINCE CONTROLLING BILLIONS OF THE COUNTRY BUT IF YOU GO TO KANO expecially and see thousands of uneducated stark illiterates and unproductive people called 'Almajiris'you will melt,they are breed in a way that their reasonings are directed by their clerics or immams.(lets agree thats the way they choose to live maybe its fair for their leaders not develop them to be equiped and educated is their problem do you agree? )but then these Almajiris now turn to be a ready made tools for politicians and are instructed to kill innocents at will, lets just cast our mind back to the LONG AWAITED DEMOCRACY IN 1999 after Abachas sudden death,i was in kaduna,YOU CANT EVEN COMPARE THE WAY PEOPLES WERE SLAUGHTERED THEN OVER AND OVER IN THOUSANDS TO THIS BOKO HARAM MENACE AFTER WHICH THEY ALSO INTRODUCE THE SHARIA LAW THAT UP TILL NOW NEVER CAUGHT UP WITH ANY PROMINENT AND WELL TO DO NORTHERNER JUST NAME ONE,BUT ILLITERATED DEPRIVED OF EDUCATION AND DECENT LIVED WERE CAUGHT WITH THE SHARIA.THE FIRST 4 YRS OF OBASANJO WAS AWASHED WITH VIOLENCE MAINLY IN THE NORTH.MANUFACTURED VIOLENCE MAINLY IN THE NORTH.WHY?
THE BOKO HARAM MAINLY IN THE NORTH STARTED AS A MENACE UNDER YAR'ADUA NOT AS A VIOLENT DANGEROUS SECT BUT WAS SEEN AS A DESTABILISING TOOL TO WELLCOME ANOTHER SOUTHERNER IN GOODLUCK JONATHA,AND TO SHOW THE WHOLE NIGERIA THAT THE BOKO HARAM REGIME HAVE ASSUME A LARGE THAN LIFE COMMAND THE NEW BOKO HARAM STAMP HIS AUTHORITY BY KILLING THE YOUNGER BROTHER YUSUF TO THE FOUNDER OF BOKO HARAM JUST HOURS AFTER MEETING PRESIDENT OBASANJO IN SEPT 17TH.and since then they continue their onslaught MAINLY IN THE NORTH.
BOMB FACTORY MAINLY IN THE NORTH,DAMATURU,KANO AND KADUNA and not in the south.
NOW,WITH THESE FEW ANALYSIS,
1,IS IT JONATHAN'S WHOLE FAULT JUST FEW MONTHS IN OFFICE?
2, LOGICALLY,HOW DO YOU MEASURE 'FAULT' AND 'RESPONSIBILITY' WHEN TIME DURATION PLAYS A HUGE PART IN DETERMINING 'FAILURE'.
3.SHOULD HE JUST RESIGN THE GOVERNMENT TO THE NORTH?AND AND SUCCUMB TO THEIR TREAT. pls i want objective analysis,im waiting pls.


THE FIRST 4 YRS OF OBASANJO WAS AWASHED WITH VIOLENCE MAINLY IN THE NORTH.18 MONTHS COMPARE TO THE FIRST 4 YRS OF OBASANJO,THE CHRISTIANS SUFFERS WORST ATTACK, MOST PEOPLE SLEEP AT THE FRONT OF POLICE STATION BECAUSE THEIR HOUSES WERE BURNED AND VANDALISED.

ITS A MANUFACTURED VIOLENCE MAINLY IN THE NORTH.
I WAS FORCED TO LEAVE KADUNA IN YR 2002 DUE TO INHUMAN VIOLENCE THAT I SAW,CHURCHES BURNT AT WILL,SHARIA PLACARD WERE TAKING TO THE STREET ALWAYS AND YOU DARE NOT MEET THEM OR EVEN ALLOW THEM POINT AT YOU,THEY WILL PURSUE YOU LIKE A DOG,AND IT PERSIST
WHY?
THE INSECURITY PROBLEM IN THE NORTH DIRECTED AT THE SOUTH DID NOT START WITH JONATHAN,THE PERPETRATORS HAVE BUILD THEIR TOOLS (THE ALMAJIRIS MIXED WITH NIGER) WITH TIME,
CAN ANYONE KINDLY SUGGEST WHAT JONATHAN COULD DO TO STOP THIS INSECURITY PROMPTLY? WITHIN THE CONFINES OF DEMOCRACY WE PRACTICED.im waiting for replies.

[b]@KokoA

WHAT CHALENGE ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
IF SOMEONE IS FACING A REAL CHALENGE HERE,ITS GOODLUCK JONATHAN BECAUSE HE JUST INHERITED THE PROBLEM SPARKLED BY HIS PREEDECESSOR MUSA YAR'ADUA.if we want sincerely hold someone responsible for the latest onslaught by boko haram.
at this point,pls lets be objective and analyse


Before 2009 when the sect leader was killed under yar'adua's regime because Jonathan took over in 2010,
the Boko haram then  don’t have identity, uniforms, centres or mosques to be traced.
Unknown to many, the late Ustaz Mohammed Yusuf(Boko Haram's leader), Was said to have actually inherited the idea of condemning Western education from the father, who started it all in the 60’s, while he was still living in Gashua.
In the past, and even till date, there are certain Islamic scholars, who obviously out of ignorance, believe strongly that;
     Any Muslim who attends the conventional schools, other than Islamic schools would certainly not enter Paradise.
It was, therefore, common to find the Almajiris who roam most streets in the northern part of the country telling anyone who cares to listen that “Mallam ya ce du wan da eje makaranta boko, wuta ze shiga (my Islamic teacher says anyone who goes to seek Western education would enter hell fire.)”

Many people opine that the late president Umaru Musa Yar’adua, Governors of the affected states and the security agents [police] are to be blamed for the current despicable acts being committed by the extremists .
Others suggest that the sect’s leader Muhammad Yusuf, and the members apprehended during the crisis should have been prosecuted rather than lynching them which according to them fanned the present incidences.

There are those who are of the view that if the Niger-Delta Militants could be granted amnesty by the federal gov’t why not Boko Haram since the duo are all fighting the authorities.
SO JANATHAN HAVING INHERITED THE PROBLEM SPARKLED  BY YAR'ADUA OR PROBLEM AGGRAVATED BY YAR'ADUA NOW PROSECUTE THE POLICE OFFICERS THAT KILLED THEIR LEADER and seek the other way of Amnesty ''as suggested by many'' ONLY IF THEIR TRUE INTENTION WERE GENUINE.
As a democratic president and not military,he tried the Democratic approach whis is to dialogue.Remember that his power is limited to the approval of the national assembly,
NOW SUGGEST WHAT GEJ COULD HAVE DONE PLS,
no name calling,i am not a politician,God knows that i dont stand to gain anything from him,but believed in logical analysis that others could benefit from.im waiting pls.


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[b]WHY IS IT THAT WHENEVER THE PRESIDENCY COMES FROM THE SOUTH, YOU SEE VIOLENCE STARTS,IGNITES AND SPEARHEADED FROM THE NORTHERN PART OF THE COUNTRY WITH THE AIM OF SPREADING ACROSS THE COUNTRY,
THE FIRST 4 YRS OF OBASANJO WAS AWASHED WITH VIOLENCE MAINLY IN THE NORTH.18 MONTHS COMPARE TO THE FIRST 4 YRS OF OBASANJO,THE CHRISTIANS SUFFERS WORST ATTACK, MOST PEOPLE SLEEP AT THE FRONT OF POLICE STATION BECAUSE THEIR HOUSES WERE BURNED AND VANDALISED.

ITS A MANUFACTURED VIOLENCE MAINLY IN THE NORTH.
I WAS FORCED TO LEAVE KADUNA IN YR 2002 DUE TO INHUMAN VIOLENCE THAT I SAW,CHURCHES BURNT AT WILL,SHARIA PLACARD WERE TAKING TO THE STREET ALWAYS AND YOU DARE NOT MEET THEM OR EVEN ALLOW THEM POINT AT YOU,THEY WILL PURSUE YOU LIKE A DOG,AND IT PERSIST
WHY?
THE INSECURITY PROBLEM IN THE NORTH DIRECTED AT THE SOUTH DID NOT START WITH JONATHAN,THE PERPETRATORS HAVE BUILD THEIR TOOLS (THE ALMAJIRIS MIXED WITH NIGER) WITH TIME,
CAN ANYONE KINDLY SUGGEST WHAT JONATHAN COULD DO TO STOP THIS INSECURITY PROMPTLY? WITHIN THE CONFINES OF DEMOCRACY WE PRACTICED.im waiting for replies. [/b]