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photoshop!!!

lucabrasi:
@biina
lets assume for the sake of this discourse that it was a doctored audio,the choice of words would have been the very first thing anybody would work on,why would i go through the effort of faking an audio then turn round to use a wrong choice of words?

you seem to forget that this meeting was held
1.according to the report at 8pm(in the evening)
2.meant to be a hush hush/secretive meeting
i dont know about you,but i sometimes use my portable recorder when i was receiving lectures and the audio quality comes out pristine simply because only one person was talking(lecturer)in this case the man in question.

he was telling them that he ll provide some stuffs for them,can u imagine a siting governor saying stuffs like that,you reckon he wants to be there longer than necessary?talk less of entertaining questions,of course not!

true,but again if i was going to fake your voice and claim you were having a meeting with 16 ppl,dont you think getting a couple of people to sound likepoliticians is the easiest?

an echo will not be present or audible in a small/medium room with 17 ppl huddled together,especially if it isnt an empty room.

like i said,try using a very good phone recorder or portable recorder in a church/lecture hall e.t.c and you ll get same/similar audio quality

while you are totally right in sticking to your convictions on what you think of the audio,i am totally convinced that there is something to that allegations untill proven otherwise.
1.if i faked an audio,the last person i will make that attempt on isnt a retired general and lawyer especially at a time when i was gaining the upper hand.
2.if i faked an audio,i wouldnt be confident enough to foward it to the presidency,knowing what the result would portent if found out
3.if i faked an audio,rather than releasing it as it was recorded,i would take my time to edit it properly especially as by your assertions its pointing to someone reading a script in one room,why not get 5/6 people to talk in groups for maximum effect,surely thats a no-brainer for a master strategist for want of a better word,recording and editing voices/voice overs

- Your choice of words depend more on your persona, and is more difficult to fake if you havent had sufficient interactions with the subject.
- Given your position on the issue, there seems to have been no need to put effort into the choice of words
- If you are in a lecture, and the professor prompts for a response, does the entire class stay silent?
- He had enough time to identify himself with redundant details. He didnt sound like if he was in a rush
- They were huddled together and yet one cant hear the rustling of clothing  or breathing of others. Mind you, he wasn't whispering.

Like I said earlier, he might be guilty of the allegations.
The issue at hand is not his guilt, but the veracity of the audio recording on youtube, on which there is no evidence that it is same that is presented to the authorities for investigation. Hence I don't get why you feel that much effort would have been put into the recording. The aim of the poster was for gullible people who would accept it at face value.

The recording was likely made by someone that wanted to get a few mins of fame on youtube, by having heavy hits on his video.

Lagosboy:
What sense will it make for AC to falsify such tapes especially the aftermath embarassment. They actually sent the tape to The NSA in abuja , its most probably correct and true

and you are sure it is the same audio recording posted on youtube?

@kunle
Pls reduce the line spacing in the OP

Marriage is the triumph of imagination over intelligence. A second marriage is the triumph of hope over experience.

Bachelors should be heavily taxed. It is not fair that some men should be happier than others.

Bigamy is having one wife too many. Monogamy is the same.

Love: a temporary insanity, curable by marriage.

Love at first sight is easy to understand; it's when two people have been looking at each other for a lifetime that it becomes a miracle.

For two people in a marriage to live together day after day is unquestionably the one miracle the Vatican has overlooked.

If divorce has increased by one thousand percent, don't blame the women's movement. Blame the obsolete sex roles on which our marriages were based

Love is blind, but marriage restores its sight

Someone asked me why women don't gamble as much as men do, and I gave the commonsensical reply that we don't have as much money. That was a true and incomplete answer. In fact, women's total instinct for gambling is satisfied by marriage.

Some people claim that marriage interferes with romance. There's no doubt about it. Anytime you have a romance, your wife is bound to interfere.

Never trust a husband too far, nor a bachelor too near.

He that hath a wife and children hath given hostages to fortune.

My husband and I have never considered divorce, murder sometimes, but never divorce.

Getting a dog is like getting married. It teaches you to be less self-centered, to accept sudden, surprising outbursts of affection, and not to be upset by a few scratches on your car.

[quote author=Aloy.Emeka link=topic=264876.msg3768986#msg3768986 date=1240475121]Does catching a mobile Molue at ojota count as carpooling?[/quote]You took the words right out of my mouth, except I was thinking of Bariga

All we need to do is make a scapegoat of one of the useless lecturers.
Get him making advances and/or threats on record, and prosecute his arse.

All the idiots ever do is go on strike asking for more money

[quote author=Sunny_bobo link=topic=264280.msg3768645#msg3768645 date=1240462124]There's no controverrsy about that! ask ikeyman00 [/quote]Please stop trying to incite tribal sentiments.
It is one of the fundamental issues that hinder progress in Nigeria. If all you see is nothing more than the tribal angle, then you are no better than the useless politicians that use same sentiments to exploit you.

linxon:
Thats ridiculous! He has given names of genuine YORUBA D.sc holders, I can see thats hard for you to digest.

Yep! Another lousy attempt to paint Igbos as the most intelligent ethinic group - SAD 

US schools do not award higher doctorates. It is less about the designation, than the actual level of the 'degree'. The higher doctorate is awarded in the UK and other countries, like members of the commonwealth, who adopted a UK styled educational system.

The DSc, ScD and PhD are all equivalent in the US. Notable schools that award DSc and/or ScD include Harvard, Johns Hopkins,and MIT.

The topic at hand has nothing to do with tribal sentiments and should not be degraded to such. texazzpete comment was right in that the tribe of these people need not be a topic of discussion.

@tonim
All those guys you listed have the regular doctorate, and not the  higher doctorate the OP was referring to.
Some schools do award the ScD or DSc in place of the traditional PhD, but they are all equivalent for all intent and purposes.

lucabrasi:
we have all heard him talk,moreover audio recordings especially when unedited doesnt sound like one's voice, try using a recorder or phone in a public place and then play back to listen to your own voice, besides what kind of response does anyone give to what he said there,singing the national item or disagreeing with him??
saying that the recording was falsified seemes to me as you having pre judged and made up your mind already without waiting for the experts to determine if it was or not,bearing in mind the people that did the recordings would have known enough of audio recordings to know that a forgery of that kind will be found out

-Apart from the voice, the choice of words doesn't sound like him.
-Unless a directional mic was held to his mouth, you would pickup background noise from the room. There was no background noise in the recording, either from people or other sources.
-There was no sign of acknowledgment or otherwise from the audience (even when he prompted them).
-There was no evidence that there was anyone else in the room.
-Even simple echos which would occur in the average untreated room were not audible.
-The recording was exact, without any noisy header or trailers.
-The speech sounded more focused on identifying him than the actual issue being discussed

Political gatherings are not funerals. Everything points to a written speech read in a confined room by an individual with no audience present, and not the purported secret recording at a political gathering.

My statement was that 'the recording was[b] likely[/b] falsified', which is simply my opinion on the veracity of the recording,  on which I don't need an 'expert' opinion to come to.  If you feel otherwise, that is fine, but don't try to make things out to be what they are not. Unless you can read minds (or have an 'expert' opinion), you have  no idea what state my mind is on the issue.

For all you know, somebody just wanted attention on youtube.

Tonim:
It is what you achieve post-doctoral that makes you an icon, not the fact that
you have a doctoral degree.


The nobel prize winners do not get praise based on having a doctoral degree, it is
what they achieved after their doctoral degree that makes them stand out in their
respective fields.

After receiving a doctoral degree, you have to make a great contribution to the body
of knowledge to really stand out. Otherwise, you're just another doctor.

There is a reason why some professors are referred to as [b]Professor Emeritus [/b]and
others aren't.

Emeritus essentially means retired

biolabee:
diamond

Correct!!!
Diamond is a crystalline allotrope of carbon. Other allotropes of carbon include graphite (used as a solid lubricant), lonsdaleite and fullerenes.

kanuri sud:
I  tried them , I also visits kanuri.net it is a good site
would you recommend some n[b]igerian forums discussing historical issues[/b] pls

Nigerians often have enough problems in the present, that they rarely have time to discuss the issues of the past

Ayalegbe to so omo re ni kolawole; ti won ba le jade, a wa so omo ni kolajade
A tenant that names his child 'he bringeth wealth into the home'; when evicted, would rename the child 'he taketh wealth out of the home'

Eyan ko gbodo tan ara re, bi iya olomo kan; ti won ni omo re ku, ti o bere wipe "ewo ninu won?"
One must not be self-deluded, like the mother of single child, who, on being told of her child's demise, questioned 'which of them'

Eyan ko gbodo tan ara re, bi iya dada; to ni ohun ko ri irun were ri (tori omo re nko?)
One must not be self-deluded, like the mother of child born with dreadlocks, who commented that she had never seen the unkempt hair of a mad man (what should be said of the hair on her child?)

lucabrasi:
and how sure r u that its not him, considering it was a secret recording and not expected to be pitch perfect

'cos have heard him talk more than once.
Surprisingly, your 'secret' recording sounded more like a studio recording with no background noise or responses (even when he made the promise).
While he might be guilty of the allegations, the recording was likely falsified.

doesn't sound like him

On a serious note though, I doubt Nigeria is any more corrupt than America, the key difference being that when you are caught in the US you are prosecuted, but in Nigeria you are awarded a chieftancy title

(easy)
Which of the following is a chemical element

1. Steel
2. White Gold
3. Electrum
4. Bronze
5. Quartz
6. Diamond
7. Alumina
8. Brass

2 Angels:
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a woman had 15naira spent 9 naira , ganed 12naira and loss 48 naira how much does she have left.
a)  onaira
b) 8''''''''''
c) 9''''''''''''
d) 98'''''''''

Answer is

15-9+12-48= -30 Naira

which is not one of the choices

Afaukwu:
biina (who says DSc is a mere honorary title)


Elsewhere, DSc is higher than PhD and is actually awarded as a 'higher doctorate' in recognition of a substantial and sustained contribution to scientific knowledge. A PhD holder cannot be said to have contibuted sustainably to scientific knowldege, since it is only for 4 year or less (like in my case, 3.5). In Germany it is an equivalent of what is known as habilitation, which you can only get after prooving your mettle as a PhD holder.

"Higher doctorates

In some countries, especially the United Kingdom, Ireland, and some Scandinavian, Commonwealth nations, or former USSR and other Socialist Bloc countries, there is a higher tier of research doctorates, awarded on the basis of a formally submitted portfolio of published research of a very high standard. Examples include the Doctor of Sciences (DSc/ScD) and Doctor of Letters (DLitt/LittD) degrees found in the UK, Ireland and some Commonwealth countries, and the traditional doctorates in Norway and Denmark, like dr. theol. (Theology), dr. jur. (Law), dr. med. (Medicine) and dr. philos./dr. phil. (after both countries introduced a doctorate at a lower level, the ph.d.).

The German habilitation (a formal professorial qualification with thesis and exam) is commonly regarded as belonging to this category. However, in some German states, the habilitation is not an academic degree, but rather a professorial certification ("facultas docendi" that the regarding person holds all formal qualifications to teach independently at a German university. In other German states, the "habilitand" is awarded a formal "Dr. habil." degree. In some cases where such degree is awarded, the regarding person may add "habil." to his or her research doctorate such as "Dr. phil. habil." or "Dr. rer. nat. habil."

Higher doctorates are often also awarded honoris causa when a university wishes to formally recognize an individual's achievements and contributions to a particular field."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higher_doctorate

honoris causa means for the sake of honour i.e. honorary degree.
A yardstick is defined as a standard for making critical judgment.
D.Sc is not a yardstick for academic achievement since one who has a D.Sc. cannot be explicitly said to have a higher achievement than one that does not.
Please pick a pertinent field of interest and am sure you will find more people without a D.Sc at the top than those that have.

Foreign aids, issuing bonds, paris club loans etc will never solve africa's problems. Input of capital into africa is like fetching water into a leaking tank, you will end up with less than you put in, and given enough time, will drain to nothing.

It seems that the verse that the whole concept of 'Certified Wife Beating' is based upon has been interpreted subjectively by each and all, and people have used it to support their selfish interests.
Taken in context , the whole beating thing doesn't sit well  with other verses.

Would be nice if someone knowledgeable in the Quran & Hadith could comment.

davidif:
ehn  , did you just say that?? Please, i am going to pretend i didn't hear you well. As all five fingers are not equal so not all man is equal. Are u kidding me?? You sound like a very naive person, its probably because you have not met this kind of humans before. There are some kids that are just incrediiiiiiiiibly gifted and talented, this people are called wunderkinds (prodigies). Just are some people are born to be musicians (Mozart) and athletes (Pele), some people are born to be scholars. They are the ones that go on to become proffessors of physics or biology at Caltech or MIT and end up winning Nobel Prizes. I hope this kid is like that. But, on another note, you do have a point, the quality of students you get at the university level depends on the type of education they get at a young age (nursey school). This is why you don't see students who go to Ansarudeen or Abdual aziz attah win any Nobel Prizes. We have a lot of talented people like this in naija, all we have to do is develop them by giving them a world class education (i don't mean yanki elementary or high school). Can you imagine if we could give our kids in this public schools the same level of education that the Singapore, Taiwan and Japan gives their's. Phew, omo we should be competing with the Americans, Brazillians, Indians and Chinese when it comes to science and technology.

I relate with the so called 'wunderkids' often enough and I stand by what I said. They are what they  are based on their background and experiences, and not any innate abilities. The examples of musicians and athletes are different from academia, as in such fields talent and physical abilities matter (imagine a 5ft guy guarding against Shaq on the basketball court or someone with large fingers playing the violin).

In academia you learn and how well you learn depends on your past exposure and the method of delivery. I have seen people who struggled under one system, become superstars in another, and vise versa. You, like most, get carried away by the duck effect - so calm on the surface, but paddling like mad underneath. All men are born intellectually equal, none are more equal than others.

Becomrrich:
biina, B. sc and B eng are not the same degree.

B sc in engineering is focus on science, B eng in engineering is pure engineering based, with close to not of science content.  B eng pure engineering.  B. sc you have science courses included.

how much do prof make over in the USA biina in engineering. new phd holder.

My point was that the B.Sc and B. Eng are equivalent as they are both bachelors, and same would apply to a PhD and a SC.D degree, as they are both doctorates.

How much you get paid as a professor depends on the school but would likely average around $70k with the top schools usually paying better (of course they also expect more from you).
For example a top private university pays an assistant professor about $100K, an associate professor about $120K, and a full professor about $150K+ depending on number of years in office.

davidif:
biina,
my proffessor was telling me today (he is an associate proffessor) that in order to become a full proffessor that he has to have 12 points in around six years to make to a full proffessor. What that means is that in order to have those points, you work needs to be published in journal (which is a big deal because they have many people submitting there research so that it can be published). The top journal gets you 4 point, which is very hard for you to even get into because you are competing with a lotttttttttt of other people. You also have journals worth 2 points and the others are worth 1 points each. If you don't get it then you can't get tenured. The same goes for assistant proffessors wanting to jump to associate proffessorship. So there is an incredible amount of pressure on this people to come up with very substantial research which they can submit for publication. After 5 years, the assistant profs are evaluated. If they don't know how to teach or they don't make those certain number of points, then they are fired.

Actually the tenure process is not that well defined and varies from school to school. In fact, in most top schools it is highly political, and minority professors often struggle with the process.
Hopefully with all the shouting on diversity, we hope to see more black professors at the top level, which will in turn increase opportunities for blacks at the student and faculty level.
It is my considered opinion that students in top schools are not made of innate abilities, but of the little opportunities that are afforded them as they grow up.

One thing I am yet to investigate is the effect of a failed tenure on the career of a professor, particularly one of minority origins, given that the opportunities are usually limited in the first place.

Afaukwu:
Nice achievement. But Assistant Prof position is no biggie. He still has to cross the hurdle of Associate Prof to get to full Prof.

In the US, the rank goes thus:
Postdoctoral Associate/Fellow
Assistant Prof
Associate Prof
Adjunct Prof (may not be necessary)
Prof.

Clearly, the guy is still in the lower rung of the ladder.

Assistant professor is usually the first office in a tenure track position. Given the less than handful number of black professors among the engineering faculty at top US schools, the guy has done well for himself, and there is no need to try take away from it. Mind you, it is easier to get tenured at a lower university than it is to be appointed an assistant professor at Caltech.

Afaukwu:
It is clearly a yardstick for academic and scientific, especially scientific, achievement. I am in the system and so I know.

An honorary degree is a yardstick for academic excellence?  So someone with DSc is better acknowledged than someone with a phD? Please check the profile of the faculty in top universities in the world and come and tell me how many of them have a D.Sc and if those that do are any better than those that don't.

BTW don't tell me "I am in the system and so I know" unless you are willing to provide evidence to substantiate it.

posakosa:
In the U.S. Dsc  is also Sc.D

I know a psychologist with a S.cD degree, I think its called.

Instead a doctorate of philosophy, its a Doctorate of Science and I've also seen a D.A. a Doctorate of Arts

The question is on the award of a 'higher doctorate' and not what it is tagged. Different schools, for various reasons, have different tags for equivalent degrees e.g BSc vs BEng. The ScD is equivalent to a PhD in the US.

Afaukwu:
No. DSc is higher than a PhD. Jerome was actually awarded his by UI. In some countries (e.g., US), it is actually the equivalent of the PhD, but in most other countries including the UK, it is a higher qualification than a PhD.

In present day, it is awarded honoris causa (honorary degree) and is not a yard stick of academic achievement or prowess. One of the reason that the system existed in the UK was that the traditional phd is 'lighter' under the UK system when compared to the US and some other countries

1989
Sir Shina Peters - Ace (Afro-Juju Series 1)
Side B - Track 1 & 2: Omo Enia Lo Sora / Jesu Gbadura Mi

padada paranpa padidi paranpa padidi paranpa parara
paranpa paranpa paranpa parara

Omo enia - lo sora o!
Omo enia ye o - lo sora o!

majority e ma gbo
personal experience le fe gbo
ohun to ti sele simi ri ni
omo enia ye o - lo sora o!

ti o ba lowo lowo - aye a ba e na
ti o ba n ko ile mo ile - aye a ba e gbe
bi kuriji e ba lo ji peren, won a ni - omo mi ni, aburo mi ni, egbon mi ni, ore mi ni se
ti o ba lo je olowo gidi gidi - baba mi, pelu baba baba tire, omo baba ni won
ti o ba lowo lowo - iya mi, pelu mama mama tire, ara ile ni won je

je ko sa fere die, ko ku die ko to,
am sorry for you
igba yen lo ma to ma bi aye se je
eni to ti mo e tele pe ebi le je
eni to ti mo e tele pe ore le je
omoge to ti mo e tele, pe ololufe ohun ni
wa di eni yeye lowo won
omo enia ye o - lo sora o!

aye toto, am sorry o!
aye toto, aye akamora yi
won ba eje (won ba e je)
won ba e mu (won ba e mu)
sugbon tiwon ri pe o tan, won a pada lehin re o, bi ogo
melo ni wo ro loro aye  o
me, me, mo ni melo ni iwo ro, ni oro aye yio

opo alangba lo da inu de le yi o - a o mo eni inu run
bi iku ile o pa ni - ti ode o le pa ni
a jo n jeun, a jo n mu - a o mo eni to binu eni
ibi kana ni a gbe n sise - a o mo eni to binu eni
ka to de aye, ki won to bi wa, ki won to  bi baba wa
ka to de aye, ki won to bi wa, ki won to  bi baba wa
ni imo odale ti wa,
a o ma ri solution si
omo enia ye o - lo sora o

Jesu nigba idanwo
gbadura fun mi
ki emi ma ba se o
ki n si sako lo
igba n ba s'iyemeji
ki o boju wo mi
ki eru tabi isaju
ma mu mi subu

bi aye ba si n fa mi
si inu adun re
ti ohun isura aye
fe han mi ni emo
jo mu getisemani
wa si iranti mi
tabi irora e
ni oke kalifari

Jesu omo olorun gabdura mi
Mose, orimolade, gbebe mi yeye
Jesu omo olorun gabdura mi

Orin a yo lenu Sina Peters
orin a yo lenu wa o
emi pelu won ni yi o ko, orin Sina Peters

Orin a yo lenu Sina Peters
orin a yo lenu wa o
emi pelu won ni yi o ko, orin Sina Peters

I have never understood where Africans got the notion that the developed countries would provide the solutions to our problems, given that, more  often than not, they are the root cause of the problem.

The actions of the developed countries have always been motivated by a single factor: their own interests. The effects of such actions on the African populace (be it positive, negative or neutral) are consequences and not objectives. Until we learn to think for ourselves, and come up with our own solutions to our problems, we will be stuck in the quagmire of poverty.

Foreign aids were never given to help Africans in the true sense, but rather it was more like livestock feed given to a reared animal, which is fed so as to deliver the desired products for the farmer