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Christianity Etc › Re: If Jesus Christ Is Seated At The Right Hand Of God, Then He is not God? by bingbagbo(op): 8:39pm On Aug 15, 2019
zone51:
If Jesus Christ Is Seated At The Right Hand Of God, Then He Is Not God

Yes you are right. He is not God but a prophet just like Muhammed SAW. Only Allah SWT is the only true God.

Quran 112 verse 1-4 will enlighten you more

1. Say: He is Allah, the One and Only;

2. Allah, the Eternal, Absolute;

3. He begetteth not, nor is He begotten;

4. And there is none like unto Him.
Quran is not the Word of God

Quran is the Word of Satan

GUilty of plagiarising portions of the Bible

I weep for you

Jesus Christ is YHWH
Christianity Etc › If Jesus Christ Is Seated At The Right Hand Of God, Then He is not God? by bingbagbo(op):
Is there special meaning or significance to the “right hand” in Scripture? What does the right hand symbolize?

The Hand of Authority

You’ve probably heard the phrase “he’s my right hand man” but where does this phrase come from? I believe it comes from the Bible. This words “right hand” occurs 166 times in the Bible so it is no accident that the words “right hand” has significant meaning. God inspired Isaiah to write “For I, the Lord your God, hold your right hand; it is I who say to you, “Fear not, I am the one who helps you” (Isaiah 41:13). The right hand signifies strength, perhaps because most people are right-handed and that is the hand that normally has their greatest strength. Most people write with their right hand, they do the most difficult things with their right hand, and it is the hand where the strength typically occurs.

The religious leaders were constantly trying to trap and trick Jesus into enigmatic questions so He once told them “The Lord said to my Lord, “Sit at my right hand, until I make your enemies your footstool” (Luke 20:42-43) which, being at the right hand, is the place of authority to whoever sits on the throne, and in this case, it was about God the Father and Jesus being the one who was to be and is currently seated at the right hand of the Father. Jesus made reference to this during His illegal trial saying “from now on the Son of Man shall be seated at the right hand of the power of God” (Luke 22:69). That is where the Son of God is presently at. This is mentioned in Mark 16:19 “So then the Lord Jesus, after he had spoken to them, was taken up into heaven and sat down at the right hand of God.”

James and John once came up to Jesus and asked Him “Grant us to sit, one at your right hand and one at your left, in your glory” (Mark 10:37) but Jesus responded “to sit at my right hand or at my left is not mine to grant, but it is for those for whom it has been prepared” (Mark 10:40). The other disciples knew what this meant which was why “they began to be indignant at James and John” (Mark 10:41) so it is evident that being at the right hand is symbolic of having authority and power. This is seen throughout the Scriptures as in Paul writing about God that He “raised him from the dead and seated him at his right hand in the heavenly places, far above all rule and authority and power and dominion, and above every name that is named, not only in this age but also in the one to come” (Eph 1:20-21).

The Hand of Blessing

The ancient patriarchs usually blessed their children and grandchildren with their right hand as with the case of Jacob, whose name was later changed by God to Israel, for example when “Israel stretched out his right hand and laid it on the head of Ephraim, who was the younger, and his left hand on the head of Manasseh, crossing his hands (for Manasseh was the firstborn)” (Gen 48:14).

For-I-the-Lord-your-God

The Hand of Strength

I mentioned that the right hand is the one which, for most people, has the greatest strength and that is symbolized in many Scriptures when it refers to God as in Exodus 15:6 “Your right hand, O Lord, glorious in power, your right hand, O Lord, shatters the enemy” and often used against His enemies as in Exodus 15:12 “You stretched out your right hand; the earth swallowed them.” Just prior to Moses’ death He blessed Israel with this blessing, “The Lord came from Sinai and dawned from Seir upon us; he shone forth from Mount Paran; he came from the ten thousands of holy ones, with flaming fire at his right hand” (Duet 33:2). These “ten thousands of holy ones” are likely speaking about God’s holy angels. When John saw Jesus he “fell at his feet as though dead. But he laid his right hand on me, saying “Fear not, I am the first and the last” (Rev 1:17) so by His right hand He strengthened him. Isaiah provides further evidence of this by writing “fear not, for I am with you; be not dismayed, for I am your God; I will strengthen you, I will help you, I will uphold you with my righteous right hand” (Isaiah 41:10).

The Sacrificial Significance of the Right Side

When Aaron and his sons performed animal sacrifices, God instructed them “you shall kill the ram and take part of its blood and put it on the tip of the right ear of Aaron and on the tips of the right ears of his sons, and on the thumbs of their right hands and on the great toes of their right feet, and throw the rest of the blood against the sides of the altar” (Ex 29:20) and at another time Aaron took the sacrifice and “he killed it, and Moses took some of its blood and put it on the lobe of Aaron’s right ear and on the thumb of his right hand and on the big toe of his right foot” (Lev 8:23). Even in the anointing of the oil was done on the right side as when they took “some of the oil that remains in his hand the priest shall put on the lobe of the right ear of him who is to be cleansed and on the thumb of his right hand and on the big toe of his right foot, on top of the blood of the guilt offering” (Lev 14:17).

The Hand of Sovereignty

In the Book of Revelation we see Jesus using His right hand throughout like “in the right hand of him who was seated on the throne a scroll written within and on the back, sealed with seven seals” (Rev 5:1), and having taken “the scroll from the right hand of him who was seated on the throne” (Rev 5:7), He held the “scroll open in his hand. And he set his right foot on the sea” (Rev 10:2), and “In his right hand he held seven stars, from his mouth came a sharp two-edged sword, and his face was like the sun shining in full strength” (Rev 1:16) of which the stars represented the seven churches. The right hand and the right foot both symbolize sovereignty and authority.

Conclusion

Clearly we see that the right hand is symbolic of ruler-ship, authority, sovereignty, blessing, and strength and is significant in Scripture. We even see this in separating the sheep from the goats at the judgment as Jesus said “Before him will be gathered all the nations, and he will separate people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. And he will place the sheep on his right, but the goats on the left” (Matt 25:32-33). Being on the right side is critical to our eternal destiny and fatal to those on the left. For all who trust in Christ, they will be placed on the right hand side of Christ because they will have imputed to them the very righteousness of the Son of God (2 Cor 5:21).

Article by Jack Wellman


Jesus Christ is God Almighty
Christianity Etc › Re: What Time Was Lucifer Cast Down From Heaven? by bingbagbo(op): 4:11pm On Aug 15, 2019
OkCornel:
What's your take on what Jesus said in Luke 10 v 18?

Is it a separate incident from the Pre-Adam era and what John saw in Revelation?
I dont think so

I believe all refer to that same one fall that occurred years before Adam.

Remember John in Revelations refers to the Birth of Jesus which had already taken place?
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is The God And Father Of The Lord Jesus Christ? by bingbagbo(op): 3:52pm On Aug 15, 2019
Have you ever asked yourself why Jesus had to been at all? Why he had to die?

All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. Before the crucifixion, The Jews used animals to atone for their sins. The high priest would offer the blood in the Holy of Holies, first offer for his own sins and that of the people. All these were shadows of the reality which was to come.

The Lord Jesus Christ presented his perfect blood (The blood of God) once and for all as a perfect atonement for the sins of all.

He came as the lamb to be sacrificed

He also came to act as High priest after the order of Melchizedek, who was a shadow of Christ. Remember, this Melchizedek had no beginning and no end.

See below

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Hebrews 7 King James Version (KJV)

7 For this Melchisedec, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings, and blessed him;

2 To whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all; first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace;

3 Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually.

4 Now consider how great this man was, unto whom even the patriarch Abraham gave the tenth of the spoils.

5 And verily they that are of the sons of Levi, who receive the office of the priesthood, have a commandment to take tithes of the people according to the law, that is, of their brethren, though they come out of the loins of Abraham:

6 But he whose descent is not counted from them received tithes of Abraham, and blessed him that had the promises.

7 And without all contradiction the less is blessed of the better.

8 And here men that die receive tithes; but there he receiveth them, of whom it is witnessed that he liveth.

9 And as I may so say, Levi also, who receiveth tithes, payed tithes in Abraham.

10 For he was yet in the loins of his father, when Melchisedec met him.

11 If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron?

12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.

13 For he of whom these things are spoken pertaineth to another tribe, of which no man gave attendance at the altar.

14 For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood.

15 And it is yet far more evident: for that after the similitude of Melchisedec there ariseth another priest,

16 Who is made, not after the law of a carnal commandment, but after the power of an endless life.

17 For he testifieth, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.


Jesus Christ is the sacrificial lamb, the priest to offer that same sacrifice and that same God who receives the Sacrifice. This is mystery and the deep things of God.

That is why we are charged to go boldly before the throne of God, since we have an advocate at the right hand of God. Yes, you are asking but this advocate is only at the right hand of God so He is not God? Hahahaha, my next thread will talk about the right hand of God. That's a whole lesson

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Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is The God And Father Of The Lord Jesus Christ? by bingbagbo(op): 3:23pm On Aug 15, 2019
Jesus Christ always wowed his audience. He told the unbelieving Jews He was older than Abraham and claimed to be I AM.

Jesus Christ has no beginning of days neither end of days, listen to this prophecy about him


But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting (Micah 2:5)

I pray God grants you understanding beloved

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Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is The God And Father Of The Lord Jesus Christ? by bingbagbo(op): 3:18pm On Aug 15, 2019
Whenever Jesus referred to His father (The Holy Spirit), his unbelieving audience who knew the import of the title 'Son Of God' vexed and tried to assassinate him.


"I and the Father are one." 31The Jews took up stones again to stone Him. 32Jesus answered them, "I showed you many good works from the Father; for which of them are you stoning Me?" 33The Jews answered Him, "For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy; and because You, being a man, make Yourself out to be God," (John 10:30-33)

In fact Jesus Christ was crucified because he claimed to be God, and that was and is who he was and who he is.

Ever asked yourself why he had a crown of thorns on his head before getting killed? Because he claimed to be King of the Jews. Who else is King of the Jews but YHWH. Even his killers mockingly bowed before him.

Jesus Christ is YHWH

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Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is The God And Father Of The Lord Jesus Christ? by bingbagbo(op): 3:10pm On Aug 15, 2019
John 16:7
Nevertheless, I tell you the truth: it is to your advantage that I go away, for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you. But if I go, I will send him to you.

Think about the above verse for a moment. These are the words of Jesus Christ. Which helper is He talking about? Surely the Holy Spirit. But why can't the Holy spirit come until Jesus exits the earth? Think about it for a moment. The Holy Spirit was that same Jesus Christ, in a physical form.

Again, which of you reading this, or who on earth or who in the bible can/ could dare send the Holy Spirit? But this Jesus Christ promised to send Him and he indeed did when he Ascended .

Jesus Christ's who was a man's God is the Holy Spirit, which is himself. I always use a president for this illustration. For instance, Nigeria, who is the President of Nigeria? President Buhari is right. Who is President Buhari s president in Nigeria? It is none other than himself.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is The God And Father Of The Lord Jesus Christ? by bingbagbo(op): 3:00pm On Aug 15, 2019
So the Father of Jesus Christ, is the Holy Spirit.
Who is the Holy Spirit?

The Holy spirit is God Almighty (John 4:24)
So the father and God of Jesus Christ is no other person than the Holy Spirit who is God Almighty.

Now see, if a man knows a woman and she conceieves, she begets a man. Remember, there isnt just one man in the world, but many.

Likewise, when God begets, he begets his exact kind. Unlike the man example, there is only one God (Deuteronomy 6:4). The Almighty God begot the Almighty God who is his exact image, Gods physical manifestation (1 Timothy 3:16). Jesus Christ was God, who is absolute spirit in flesh.

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Christianity Etc › Re: What Time Was Lucifer Cast Down From Heaven? by bingbagbo(op): 2:47pm On Aug 15, 2019
OkCornel:
@bingbagbo this is a very good question!

Could it be possible Satan fell more than once?

Before creation? Or the time Jesus said He saw Satan fall like lightening from heaven in Luke 10 v 18?

Could the incident John saw in the book of Revelation be another separate incident for the future? Or was John using the story of the ancient past to foretell the future?
Satan fell pre Adam and that was it
Christianity Etc › Who Is The God And Father Of The Lord Jesus Christ? by bingbagbo(op): 2:42pm On Aug 15, 2019
Antichrists throw dust in the eyes of unsuspecting Baby Christians by claiming Jesus is not God, since Jesus consistently referred to his 'father' and his 'God' '

Jesus Christ is Lord God Almighty and beside Him there is no God . The Question is, who is the Father and God of Jesus Christ?

Let me start by asking you the reader who your biological father is? OK, that man you know to be your father is simply so because He made your mum pregnant, right?

OK, lets see who Jesus' biological Father is from the scripture below


And the angel answered her, “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; therefore the child to be born will be called holy—the Son of God (Luke 1:35)

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Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Christ Is The Creator Of All Things Including You! by bingbagbo(op): 2:27pm On Aug 15, 2019
Preciousgirl:
On the contrary u are the fool worshipping a nonexistent jehovah
Lol leave him alone, its his own Cup of Milo
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Is Not God – Reno Omokri by bingbagbo(m): 2:42pm On Aug 14, 2019
Jesus Christ is God Almighty
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Christ Is The Creator Of All Things Including You! by bingbagbo(op): 2:23pm On Aug 14, 2019
Janosky:
@ Gbagbo,

Hebrew 1:6,
But when He again brings the firstborn
into the world, He says:
“Let all the angels of God worship Him.”

@1)
Before, the Only true God YHWH gave the command of Hebrew 1:6, who 'worshipped' God's first born?
Answer: None! He is not the true God YHWH.

@2)
Hebrew 1:9, "Therefore God,your God anointed you"
Does YHWH have a God ?
Who can anoint the only true God YHWH?

@3)
Jesus Christ inherited the throne of David his human ancestor. Luke1:30-33.
The throne of David is the throne of God YHWH, 1Chro29:23.
Therefore, "Your divine throne is forever ". OR "God is your throne" are the best renditions of Hebrew 1:8 ,a copy of Psalms 45:6,7.
Based on scriptural references and evidences
"Your throne o God" is a FRAUD.

No Jew reads Psalms 45:6 and concludes that any king of Israel is God.

Because they knew & understood that all Kings of Israel sat on "the throne of God "
1 Chro29:23.

FINALLY, Jesus is not YHWH, his God and Father. Rev 3:2,5,
grin

See frustrations, lol

I love how you dodged the verse 10

You see your shame?

God says Jesus Christ laid down the foundation of the earth and his right hand established the universe

Compare that to Isaiah 48:13 then u would know Jesus Christ is the physical manifestation of YHWH

I pity you

' Your throne oh God is forever and ever' is actually a quote from the book of Psalms 45 verse 6 and even that, the JW ridiculously corrupts it with God is your throne. Hahahaha, when did God become a throne? Your lies are disgusting

You worship Jehovah who is a throne , I worship Jesus Christ who is the creator

*spits*
Christianity Etc › Re: My Beef With Jehovah's Witnesses Part Two by bingbagbo(op): 2:19pm On Aug 14, 2019
Janosky:
Gbagbo lying Pharisee, Colossians 1:15 Jesus Christ is the image of the invisible God, the first born of creation, "serving God his Father in heaven (Rev1:5,6).

Man and spirit creatures were created in the image of the invisible God, Jehovah.

Whose image does Jehovah have ?
None !
Gbagbo lying Pharisees no get sense.
Hebrews 1:6-12 deal with it


6 But when He again brings the firstborn into the world, He says:

“Let all the angels of God worship Him.”
7 And of the angels He says:

“Who makes His angels spirits
And His ministers a flame of fire.”


8 But to the Son He says:

“Your throne, O God, is forever and ever;
A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom.
9 You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness;
Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You
With the oil of gladness more than Your companions.”

10 And:

“You, Lord, in the beginning laid the foundation of the earth,
And the heavens are the work of Your hands.
11 They will perish, but You remain;
And they will all grow old like a garment
;
12 Like a cloak You will fold them up,
And they will be changed.
But You are the same,
And Your years will not fail.”

Jesus Christ is God Almighty

You cant hide the truth
Christianity Etc › Jesus Christ Is The Creator Of All Things Including You! by bingbagbo(op): 1:17pm On Aug 14, 2019
Hebrews Chapter 1

1 God, who at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets, 2 has in these last days spoken to us by His Son, [/b]whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the [b]worlds; 3 who being the brightness of His glory and the express image of His person, and upholding all things by the word of His power, when He had [c]by Himself [d]purged [e]our sins, sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high, 4 having become so much better than the angels, as He has by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.
[b]

5 For to which of the angels did He ever say:

“You are My Son,
Today I have begotten You”?
And again:


“I will be to Him a Father,
And He shall be to Me a Son”?
6 But when He again brings the firstborn into the world, He says:

“Let all the angels of God worship Him.”
7
And of the angels He says:

“Who makes His angels spirits
And His ministers a flame of fire.

8 But to theSupreme Revelation
1 God, who [a]at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets, 2 has in these last days spoken to us by His Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the [b]worlds; 3 who being the brightness of His glory and the express image of His person, and upholding all things by the word of His power, when He had [c]by Himself [d]purged [e]our sins, sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high, 4 having become so much better than the angels, as He has by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.

The Son Exalted Above Angels
5 For to which of the angels did He ever say:

“You are My Son,
Today I have begotten You”?
And again:

“I will be to Him a Father,
And He shall be to Me a Son”?
6 But when He again brings the firstborn into the world, He says:

“Let all the angels of God worship Him.”
7 And of the angels He says:

“Who makes His angels spirits
And His ministers a flame of fire.”


8 But to the Son He says:

“Your throne, O God, is forever and ever;
A [f]scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom.
9 You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness;
Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You
With the oil of gladness more than Your companions[b].”

10 And:

“You, Lord, in the beginning laid the foundation of the earth,
And the heavens are the work of Your hands.[/b]
11 They will perish, but You remain;
And they will all grow old like a garment;
12 Like a cloak You will fold them up,
And they will be changed.
But You are the same,
And Your years will not fail.”
13 But to which of the angels has He ever said:

“Sit at My right hand,
Till I make Your enemies Your footstool”?
14 Are they not all ministering spirits sent forth to minister for those who will inherit salvation? Son He says:

“Your throne, O God, is forever and ever;
A [f]scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom.
9 You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness;
Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You
With the oil of gladness more than Your companions.”
10 And:

“You, Lord, in the beginning laid the foundation of the earth,
And the heavens are the work of Your hands.

11 They will perish, but You remain;
And they will all grow old like a garment;
12 Like a cloak You will fold them up,
And they will be changed.
But You are the same,
And Your years will not fail.”
13 But to which of the angels has He ever said:

“Sit at My right hand,
Till I make Your enemies Your footstool”?
14 Are they not all ministering spirits sent forth to minister for those who will inherit salvation?

Jesus Christ is God
Christianity Etc › Re: My Beef With Jehovah's Witnesses Part Two by bingbagbo(op): 12:51pm On Aug 14, 2019
Janosky:
Oturugbeke !!!!!
The proverbial pig has gone back to wallow in the murky, vermin infested pond, like the dog that returned to feast on it's vomit.
ALU mere !!!!!
Mr. All other things, lol, your God Jehovah didn't create anything, I weep for you, bloody liar
Christianity Etc › Re: My Beef With Jehovah's Witnesses Part Two by bingbagbo(op): 12:44pm On Aug 14, 2019
Janosky:
Shame on you bingbagbo satanic LIAR.

@2 Did Jesus Christ create his God and Father?

@3) Good News Translation , GNTA & New Living Translation were in accord with
@4) New World Translation.
"For through him (by means of him, Jesus) God created everything in heaven and on earth"

**$* NWT inserted "other" for emphasis,that Jesus Christ NEVER created his Father, Jehovah.

Shame on you satanic gbagbo Pharisee for lying that Jesus Christ is his Father Jehovah.
Anyone here who applauds your lies are just like you- lying Pharisees and Crooked Fraud.
I understand your frustrations and resort to invectives as usual

The evidence is too overwhelming, In John 10:30 Jesus told you He and his father are one, in John 14:8-10 he again told you He is the father yet you don't believe because you are like your father the devil, the father of lies

All other things indeed, so what did your jehova create? Lol
Christianity Etc › If You Are A Christian, Click Here by bingbagbo(op): 12:29pm On Aug 14, 2019
Are you a Christian?
Have you been baptised?
In what name were you baptized?

Please read


Mark 16:16

He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.


Acts 2:38
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you [b]in the name of Jesus Christ [/b]for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Baptism is very important, but does it matter how we are baptized? Is there a correct baptism, or will anything work? If you believe the Bible, then YES, there is a correct baptism.
Most churches baptize in the Name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, but [/b]this is not correct according to the Bible.

In Acts 19, there were certain people who already believed on Jesus Christ, but had not yet received the Holy Ghost into their hearts. The apostle Paul knew the correct way to receive the Holy Ghost, so he asked them, “Unto what then were ye baptized?” And they said, “Unto John’s baptism.” (Acts 19:3) Paul saw that they were not baptized according to Peter’s commandment in Acts 2:38, so he instructed them to be re-baptized in the Name of the Lord Jesus. Then, as promised, they received the Holy Ghost.
[b]
So, why did the disciples baptize in the Name of Jesus when Jesus, Himself, told them to baptize in the Name (not “names”) of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost? (Matt 28:19) Did they make a mistake? No! They did exactly as they were instructed.


As you read this article, think about your name. Are you a son? Is your name, “Son”? Are you a mother? Is your name, “Mother”? Of course not, those are simply titles. You have a real name, and so does God.

Here is the answer:
And there is no such a thing in the Bible as anybody ever being baptized in the name of the Father, Son, Holy Ghost; because there is no such a thing. Father’s no name; and Son’s no name; and Holy Ghost is no name; but the Name of the Father, Son, Holy Ghost is the Lord Jesus Christ.
Jesus Christ is God! He is the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost.



If you are seeking the Holy Ghost and wondering why the Lord has not given it to you yet, then you might want to ask yourself the same question that Paul asked, “Unto what then were ye baptized?”

References

Matthew 28:19
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

[What is the Father’s Name? Son’s Name? Holy Ghost’s Name?]

Mark 16:16
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

John 5:43
I am come in my Father’s name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.
[If He comes in His Father’s Name, then what is His Name?]

John 10:30
I and my Father are one.

John 12:45
And he that seeth me seeth him that sent me.

John 14:8-9
Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?

John 20:27-28
Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.
And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.

Acts 2:38-39
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

Acts 4:12
Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

Acts 8:12
But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ , they were baptized, both men and women.

Acts 19:3-6
And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John’s baptism.
Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.

Ephesians 4:5
One Lord, one faith, one baptism,

Colossians 3:17
And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him. name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.



And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him.


Assuming your father is Mr. Okafor asks you, " My son, go to my neighbour and collect 10, 000$ in my name"

When you go to the said neighbour, will you repeat the exact words of your father to you or will obey his instructions? Sure you will call your father's name Mr Okafor to him since father is not a name. If you say "My father says I should come for 10,000$" he will surely ask you, who is your father?

Beloved, exalt the name JESUS
Christianity Etc › Re: My Beef With Jehovah's Witnesses Part One by bingbagbo(op): 11:36am On Aug 14, 2019
Maximus69:
Hey! who invited atheists here o?
Me i'm off this thread!

Matthew 5:22! embarassed
Hypocrite, quoting from same scriptures you doubt for selfish gain

All atheists are fools, that is the word of God.
Christianity Etc › Re: My Beef With Jehovah's Witnesses Part Two by bingbagbo(op): 11:34am On Aug 14, 2019
solite3:
you maybe right some are very very arrogant but I have met some nice Jehovah witnesses, however under that niceness is someone that is lost.
Even the devil parades as an Angel of light
Christianity Etc › Re: M Skid Responds To Maraji's "Jesus Is The Only Way" Claim by bingbagbo(m): 11:19am On Aug 14, 2019
Jesus Christ is not just the only way to the Father, He is the Father

Greatest Mystery (1 Timothy 3:16)
Christianity Etc › Re: My Beef With Jehovah's Witnesses Part Two by bingbagbo(op): 8:22am On Aug 14, 2019
Mikora:
Jehovah witness is a cult. I have them in my family, no difference between them and a cult
Don't be silent bro, expose them, it is not a sin to expose wrongs, bro don't be deceived

Many are heading for eternal damnation because of these cults

I am a former JW for your information
Christianity Etc › My Beef With Jehovah's Witnesses Part Two by bingbagbo(op):
The Bible is clear on the fact that, God created all things (Genesis Chapter one et al).

In the new testament, the Bible tells us Jesus Christ created all things for himself. This underscores the fact that, God as mentioned in the old is this same Jesus Christ who died and resurrected. Jehohah s witnesses blatantly deny this truth and have gone ahead to rewrite the scriptures just to suit their heresies. Their adultereted version of the true scriptures called the New world translation has ridiculously edited all verses emphasizing the supreme deity of the Lord Jesus Christ to make him an angel they call Michael. So to JWs, Jesus Christ is Angel Michael. By extension, an Angel died for our sins. That is ridiculous.

One verse in the Bible that highlights Jesus' Godship and the fact that He Jesus Christ created all things for himself is Collosians 1: 16 which states


Young's Literal Translation
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Colossians 1:16 (YLT) because in him were the all things created, those in the heavens, and those upon the earth, those visible, and those invisible, whether thrones, whether lordships, whether principalities, whether authorities; all things through him, and for him, have been created,

Wycliffe
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Colossians 1:16 (WYC) For in him all things be made, in heavens and in earth, visible and invisible, either thrones, either dominations, either princehoods, either powers, all things be made of nought by him, and in him,

Weymouth New Testament
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Colossians 1:16 (WNT) For in Him was created the universe of things in heaven and on earth, things seen and things unseen, thrones, dominions, princedoms, powers--all were created, and exist through and for Him.


World English Bible
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Colossians 1:16 (WEB) For by him were all things created, in the heavens and on the earth, things visible and things invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers; all things have been created through him, and to him.


The Webster Bible

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Colossians 1:16 (WBT) For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are upon earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

Tyndale
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Colossians 1:16 (TYN) For by him were all thynges created thynges that are in heven and thynges that are in erth: thynges visible and thynges invisible: whether they be maieste or lordshippe ether rule or power. All thinges are creatyd by hym and in him


Third Millennium Bible w/ Apocrypha
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Colossians 1:16 (TMBA) For by Him were all things created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones or dominions or principalities or powers: all things were created by Him and for Him.
Third Millennium Bible

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Colossians 1:16 (TMB) For by Him were all things created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones or dominions or principalities or powers: all things were created by Him and for Him.

SBL Greek New Testament
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Colossians 1:16 (SBLG) ὅτι ἐν αὐτῷ ἐκτίσθη τὰ πάντα ἐν τοῖς οὐρανοῖς καὶ ἐπὶ τῆς γῆς, τὰ ὁρατὰ καὶ τὰ ἀόρατα, εἴτε θρόνοι εἴτε κυριότητες εἴτε ἀρχαὶ εἴτε ἐξουσίαι · τὰ πάντα δι’ αὐτοῦ καὶ εἰς αὐτὸν ἔκτισται ·
Revised Standard Version w/ Apocrypha

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Colossians 1:16 (RSVA) for in him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or authorities--all things were created through him and for him.

Revised Standard Version
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Colossians 1:16 (RSV) for in him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or authorities--all things were created through him and for him.

Douay-Rheims Catholic Bible
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Colossians 1:16 (RHE) For in him were all things created in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones, or dominations, or principalities, or powers. All things were created by him and in him.

Orthodox Jewish Bible
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Kehillah in Colossae 1:16 (OJB) Because in Him were created all things in Shomayim and on Ha’Aretz, the visible and the nistar (hidden), whether thrones or dominions, whether rulers or authorities, all things through Him and for Him have been created. [TEHILLIM 33:6]

New Revised Standard w/ Apocrypha
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Colossians 1:16 (NRSA) for in him all things in heaven and on earth were created, things visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or powers—all things have been created through him and for him.

New Revised Standard
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Colossians 1:16 (NRS) for in him all things in heaven and on earth were created, things visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or powers—all things have been created through him and for him.

New Living Translation
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Colossians 1:16 (NLT) for through him God created everything in the heavenly realms and on earth. He made the things we can see and the things we can’t see— such as thrones, kingdoms, rulers, and authorities in the unseen world. Everything was created through him and for him.

New King James Version
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Colossians 1:16 (NKJV) For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him.

New International Version
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Colossians 1:16 (NIV) For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him.

New International Reader's Version
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Colossians 1:16 (NIRV) All things were created by him. He created everything in heaven and on earth. He created everything that can be seen and everything that can't be seen. He created kings, powers, rulers and authorities. Everything was created by him and for him.

New Century Version
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Colossians 1:16 (NCV) Through his power all things were made -- things in heaven and on earth, things seen and unseen, all powers, authorities, lords, and rulers. All things were made through Christ and for Christ.

New American Standard Bible
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Colossians 1:16 (NAS) For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities -all things have been created through Him and for Him.

The Message Bible
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Colossians 1:16 (MSG) For everything, absolutely everything, above and below, visible and invisible, rank after rank after rank of angels - everything got started in him and finds its purpose in him.


Lexham English Bible
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Colossians 1:16 (LEB) because all [things] in the heavens and on the earth were created by him, things visible and things invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or powers, all [things] were created through him and for him,

King James Version w/ Apocrypha
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Colossians 1:16 (KJVA) For by him were all things created , that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

King James Version
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Colossians 1:16 (KJV) For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

Jubilee Bible 2000
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Colossians 1:16 (JUB) for by him were all things created, that <em>are</em> in the heavens and that <em>are</em> in earth, visible and invisible, whether <em>they are</em> thrones or dominions or principalities or powers: all things were created by him and in him;

Hebrew Names Version
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Colossians 1:16 (HNV) For by him were all things created, in the heavens and on the eretz, things visible and things invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers; all things have been created through him, and to him.
Good News Translation w/ Apocrypha

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Colossians 1:16 (GNTA) For through him God created everything in heaven and on earth, the seen and the unseen things, including spiritual powers, lords, rulers, and authorities. God created the whole universe through him and for him.


GOD'S WORD Translation
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Colossians 1:16 (GW) He created all things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible. Whether they are kings or lords, rulers or powers-- everything has been created through him and for him.

Good News Translation
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Colossians 1:16 (GNT) For through him God created everything in heaven and on earth, the seen and the unseen things, including spiritual powers, lords, rulers, and authorities. God created the whole universe through him and for him.

English Standard Version
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Colossians 1:16 (ESV) For by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities--all things were created through him and for him.

The Darby Translation
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Colossians 1:16 (DBY) because by him were created all things, the things in the heavens and the things upon the earth, the visible and the invisible, whether thrones, or lordships, or principalities, or authorities: all things have been created by him and for him.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
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Colossians 1:16 (CSB) because by Him everything was created, in heaven and on earth, the visible and the invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities- all things have been created through Him and for Him.


The Complete Jewish Bible
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Colossians 1:16 (CJB) because in connection with him were created all things - in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones, lordships, rulers or authorities - they have all been created through him and for him.

Common English Bible w/ Apocrypha
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Colossians 1:16 (CEBA) Because all things were created by him: both in the heavens and on the earth, the things that are visible and the things that are invisible. Whether they are thrones or powers, or rulers or authorities, all things were created through him and for him.

Common English Bible
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Colossians 1:16 (CEB) Because all things were created by him: both in the heavens and on the earth, the things that are visible and the things that are invisible. Whether they are thrones or powers, or rulers or authorities, all things were created through him and for him.

The Bible in Basic English
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Colossians 1:16 (BBE) For by him all things were made, in heaven and on earth, things seen and things unseen, authorities, lords, rulers, and powers; all things were made by him and for him;

Note the common phrase All things that runs through all the translations


Look at the JW translation of same Collosians 1: 16

because by means of him all other things were created in the heavens and on the earth, the things visible and the things invisible,o whether they are thrones or lordships or governments or authorities. All other things have been created through him and for him. 1


You see? All other things, why will they do that? Because they know if they maintain the original All things which runs through all the other translations, then this Jesus Christ is God .

I am sure in their future editions, they will even remove ..FOR HIM,

So the Universe is for the Lord Jesus Christ and you can't deny that.

Jesus Christ is God Almighty

Someone might say but why all this? Let them all grow together bla bla, it is up to the called to point out the truth the world. Many have been and still being deceived by cults such as the JWS , of course the scriptures foretold them.
Christianity Etc › Re: My Beef With Jehovah's Witnesses Part One by bingbagbo(op): 7:34am On Aug 14, 2019
Janosky:
ChristisGod Fallacy.
No proof.

Whom did Jesus Christ give thanks to?
Col 3:17, who takes the glory?
John17:26, Matt6:9, whose name did Jesus praise and give the glory?

** Ephesians 3:14,15
14 For this cause I bow my knees to the
Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, 15 Of whom
the whole family in heaven and earth is
named,"

Eph 3:14,15 to whose glory?

Messenger dey big pass who send am message? John7:16.
NET Bible
And whatever you do in word or deed, do it all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through him.

New Heart English Bible
Whatever you do, in word or in deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father, through him.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
And everything that you perform in word and in works, do in the name of our Lord Yeshua The Messiah and give thanks by him to God The Father.

GOD'S WORD® Translation
Everything you say or do should be done in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through him.

Deal with it

You know better than the Holy Spirit who inspired the writing of the scriptures? He says do it in the name of Jesus, but you say no Mr Holy Spirit, I know better than you, I will do it in the name of Jehovah. Go on !
Christianity Etc › Re: What Time Was Lucifer Cast Down From Heaven? by bingbagbo(op): 7:28am On Aug 14, 2019
Mandyoluchi:
Read the book Angels and demons by Benny Hinn. Thank me later
I read it four years ago
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Do Men Say I Am?-jesus Christ Of Nazareth by bingbagbo(op): 8:21pm On Aug 13, 2019
Young's Literal Translation
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Colossians 1:16 (YLT) because in him were the all things created, those in the heavens, and those upon the earth, those visible, and those invisible, whether thrones, whether lordships, whether principalities, whether authorities; all things through him, and for him, have been created,

Wycliffe
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Colossians 1:16 (WYC) For in him all things be made, in heavens and in earth, visible and invisible, either thrones, either dominations, either princehoods, either powers, all things be made of nought by him, and in him,

Weymouth New Testament
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Colossians 1:16 (WNT) For in Him was created the universe of things in heaven and on earth, things seen and things unseen, thrones, dominions, princedoms, powers--all were created, and exist through and for Him.


World English Bible
Chapter Parallel
Colossians 1:16 (WEB) For by him were all things created, in the heavens and on the earth, things visible and things invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers; all things have been created through him, and to him.


The Webster Bible

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Colossians 1:16 (WBT) For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are upon earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

Tyndale
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Colossians 1:16 (TYN) For by him were all thynges created thynges that are in heven and thynges that are in erth: thynges visible and thynges invisible: whether they be maieste or lordshippe ether rule or power. All thinges are creatyd by hym and in him


Third Millennium Bible w/ Apocrypha
Chapter Parallel
Colossians 1:16 (TMBA) For by Him were all things created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones or dominions or principalities or powers: all things were created by Him and for Him.
Third Millennium Bible
Chapter Parallel
Colossians 1:16 (TMB) For by Him were all things created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones or dominions or principalities or powers: all things were created by Him and for Him.
SBL Greek New Testament
Chapter Parallel
Colossians 1:16 (SBLG) ὅτι ἐν αὐτῷ ἐκτίσθη τὰ πάντα ἐν τοῖς οὐρανοῖς καὶ ἐπὶ τῆς γῆς, τὰ ὁρατὰ καὶ τὰ ἀόρατα, εἴτε θρόνοι εἴτε κυριότητες εἴτε ἀρχαὶ εἴτε ἐξουσίαι · τὰ πάντα δι’ αὐτοῦ καὶ εἰς αὐτὸν ἔκτισται ·
Revised Standard Version w/ Apocrypha
Chapter Parallel
Colossians 1:16 (RSVA) for in him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or authorities--all things were created through him and for him.
Revised Standard Version
Chapter Parallel
Colossians 1:16 (RSV) for in him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or authorities--all things were created through him and for him.
Douay-Rheims Catholic Bible
Chapter Parallel
Colossians 1:16 (RHE) For in him were all things created in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones, or dominations, or principalities, or powers. All things were created by him and in him.
Orthodox Jewish Bible
Chapter Parallel
Kehillah in Colossae 1:16 (OJB) Because in Him were created all things in Shomayim and on Ha’Aretz, the visible and the nistar (hidden), whether thrones or dominions, whether rulers or authorities, all things through Him and for Him have been created. [TEHILLIM 33:6]
New Revised Standard w/ Apocrypha
Chapter Parallel
Colossians 1:16 (NRSA) for in him all things in heaven and on earth were created, things visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or powers—all things have been created through him and for him.
New Revised Standard
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Colossians 1:16 (NRS) for in him all things in heaven and on earth were created, things visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or powers—all things have been created through him and for him.
New Living Translation
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Colossians 1:16 (NLT) for through him God created everything in the heavenly realms and on earth. He made the things we can see and the things we can’t see— such as thrones, kingdoms, rulers, and authorities in the unseen world. Everything was created through him and for him.
New King James Version
Chapter Parallel
Colossians 1:16 (NKJV) For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him.
New International Version
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Colossians 1:16 (NIV) For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him.
New International Reader's Version
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Colossians 1:16 (NIRV) All things were created by him. He created everything in heaven and on earth. He created everything that can be seen and everything that can't be seen. He created kings, powers, rulers and authorities. Everything was created by him and for him.
New Century Version
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Colossians 1:16 (NCV) Through his power all things were made -- things in heaven and on earth, things seen and unseen, all powers, authorities, lords, and rulers. All things were made through Christ and for Christ.
New American Standard Bible
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Colossians 1:16 (NAS) For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities -all things have been created through Him and for Him.
The Message Bible
Chapter Parallel
Colossians 1:16 (MSG) For everything, absolutely everything, above and below, visible and invisible, rank after rank after rank of angels - everything got started in him and finds its purpose in him.
Lexham English Bible
Chapter Parallel
Colossians 1:16 (LEB) because all [things] in the heavens and on the earth were created by him, things visible and things invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or powers, all [things] were created through him and for him,
King James Version w/ Apocrypha
Chapter Parallel
Colossians 1:16 (KJVA) For by him were all things created , that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
King James Version
Chapter Parallel
Colossians 1:16 (KJV) For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
Jubilee Bible 2000
Chapter Parallel
Colossians 1:16 (JUB) for by him were all things created, that <em>are</em> in the heavens and that <em>are</em> in earth, visible and invisible, whether <em>they are</em> thrones or dominions or principalities or powers: all things were created by him and in him;
Hebrew Names Version
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Colossians 1:16 (HNV) For by him were all things created, in the heavens and on the eretz, things visible and things invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers; all things have been created through him, and to him.
Good News Translation w/ Apocrypha
Chapter Parallel
Colossians 1:16 (GNTA) For through him God created everything in heaven and on earth, the seen and the unseen things, including spiritual powers, lords, rulers, and authorities. God created the whole universe through him and for him.
GOD'S WORD Translation
Chapter Parallel
Colossians 1:16 (GW) He created all things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible. Whether they are kings or lords, rulers or powers-- everything has been created through him and for him.
Good News Translation
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Colossians 1:16 (GNT) For through him God created everything in heaven and on earth, the seen and the unseen things, including spiritual powers, lords, rulers, and authorities. God created the whole universe through him and for him.
English Standard Version
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Colossians 1:16 (ESV) For by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities--all things were created through him and for him.
The Darby Translation
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Colossians 1:16 (DBY) because by him were created all things, the things in the heavens and the things upon the earth, the visible and the invisible, whether thrones, or lordships, or principalities, or authorities: all things have been created by him and for him.
Holman Christian Standard Bible
Chapter Parallel
Colossians 1:16 (CSB) because by Him everything was created, in heaven and on earth, the visible and the invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities- all things have been created through Him and for Him.
The Complete Jewish Bible
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Colossians 1:16 (CJB) because in connection with him were created all things - in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones, lordships, rulers or authorities - they have all been created through him and for him.
Common English Bible w/ Apocrypha
Chapter Parallel
Colossians 1:16 (CEBA) Because all things were created by him: both in the heavens and on the earth, the things that are visible and the things that are invisible. Whether they are thrones or powers, or rulers or authorities, all things were created through him and for him.
Common English Bible
Chapter Parallel
Colossians 1:16 (CEB) Because all things were created by him: both in the heavens and on the earth, the things that are visible and the things that are invisible. Whether they are thrones or powers, or rulers or authorities, all things were created through him and for him.
The Bible in Basic English
Chapter Parallel
Colossians 1:16 (BBE) For by him all things were made, in heaven and on earth, things seen and things unseen, authorities, lords, rulers, and powers; all things were made by him and for him;
Christianity Etc › Re: What Time Was Lucifer Cast Down From Heaven? by bingbagbo(op): 8:16pm On Aug 13, 2019
finalboss:
wink that's your cup of tea.
Yours


Flee
Christianity Etc › Re: What Time Was Lucifer Cast Down From Heaven? by bingbagbo(op): 8:14pm On Aug 13, 2019
finalboss:
your invincible and magical Jesus that doesn't exist ?? angry don't even start with Me
Of course the fool says in his heart there is no God


Get lost
Christianity Etc › Re: What Time Was Lucifer Cast Down From Heaven? by bingbagbo(op): 8:00pm On Aug 13, 2019
finalboss:
grin imagine how bemused you guys are. Lmfao
Says who?

Keep deceiving your own soul

Very soon, you will know Jesus is reality
Christianity Etc › Re: Hear What YHWH Says In The Old Testament! Jws And Muslims Invited by bingbagbo(op): 7:58pm On Aug 13, 2019
Janosky:
@1)
Revelation 3:21
To him that overcometh will I grant to sit
with me in my throne, even as I also
overcame, and am set down with my Father
in his throne."


@2)
Bing LYING Pharisee deceiving himself.
From heaven, your "Jesus almighty God" says his Father owns the throne he was permitted to sit on.
Your "almighty god" dey with him Papa for heaven.

*@3)
**Rev4:2,11 is the Almighty God YHWH, not Jesus his son in heaven.
Jesus calls YHWH our God. John 20:17.

@4)
Col1:16,Hebrew 1:1,2 YHWH created the universe "THROUGH him," Jesus...

1 Corinthians 8:6
yet for us there is but one God, the Father,
from whom all things came and for whom
we exist. And there is but one Lord, Jesus
Christ, through whom all things came and
through whom we exist.

"by him" is FAKE.
No dull yourself.
Your mumu done do.
22 Then the angel showed me the river of the water of life, as clear as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and of the Lamb 2 down the middle of the great street of the city. On each side of the river stood the tree of life, bearing twelve crops of fruit, yielding its fruit every month. And the leaves of the tree are for the healing of the nations. 3 No longer will there be any curse. The throne of God and of the Lamb will be in the city, and his servants will serve him. 4 They will see his face, and his name will be on their foreheads. 5 There will be no more night. They will not need the light of a lamp or the light of the sun, for the Lord God will give them light. And they will reign for ever and ever.

John and the Angel
6 The angel said to me, “These words are trustworthy and true. The Lord, the God who inspires the prophets, sent his angel to show his servants the things that must soon take place.”

7 “Look, I am coming soon! Blessed is the one who keeps the words of the prophecy written in this scroll.”

8 I, John, am the one who heard and saw these things. And when I had heard and seen them, I fell down to worship at the feet of the angel who had been showing them to me. 9 But he said to me, “Don’t do that! I am a fellow servant with you and with your fellow prophets and with all who keep the words of this scroll. Worship God!”

10 Then he told me, “Do not seal up the words of the prophecy of this scroll, because the time is near. 11 Let the one who does wrong continue to do wrong; let the vile person continue to be vile; let the one who does right continue to do right; and let the holy person continue to be holy.”

Epilogue: Invitation and Warning
12 “Look, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to each person according to what they have done. 13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.

14 “Blessed are those who wash their robes, that they may have the right to the tree of life and may go through the gates into the city. 15 Outside are the dogs, those who practice magic arts, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.

16 “I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you[a] this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star.”

17 The Spirit and the bride say, “Come!” And let the one who hears say, “Come!” Let the one who is thirsty come; and let the one who wishes take the free gift of the water of life.

18 I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this scroll: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to that person the plagues described in this scroll. 19 And if anyone takes words away from this scroll of prophecy, God will take away from that person any share in the tree of life and in the Holy City, which are described in this scroll.

20 He who testifies to these things says, “Yes, I am coming soon.”

Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.

21 The
22 Then the angel showed me the river of the water of life, as clear as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and of the Lamb 2 down the middle of the great street of the city. On each side of the river stood the tree of life, bearing twelve crops of fruit, yielding its fruit every month. And the leaves of the tree are for the healing of the nations. 3 No longer will there be any curse. The throne of God and of the Lamb will be in the city, and his servants will serve him. 4 They will see his face, and his name will be on their foreheads. 5 There will be no more night. They will not need the light of a lamp or the light of the sun, for the Lord God will give them light. And they will reign for ever and ever.

John and the Angel
6 The angel said to me, “These words are trustworthy and true. The Lord, the God who inspires the prophets, sent his angel to show his servants the things that must soon take place.”

7 “Look, I am coming soon! Blessed is the one who keeps the words of the prophecy written in this scroll.”

8 I, John, am the one who heard and saw these things. And when I had heard and seen them, I fell down to worship at the feet of the angel who had been showing them to me. 9 But he said to me, “Don’t do that! I am a fellow servant with you and with your fellow prophets and with all who keep the words of this scroll. Worship God!”

10 Then he told me, “Do not seal up the words of the prophecy of this scroll, because the time is near. 11 Let the one who does wrong continue to do wrong; let the vile person continue to be vile; let the one who does right continue to do right; and let the holy person continue to be holy.”

Epilogue: Invitation and Warning[b]
12 “Look, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to each person according to what they have done. 13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.[/b]

14 “Blessed are those who wash their robes, that they may have the right to the tree of life and may go through the gates into the city. 15 Outside are the dogs, those who practice magic arts, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.

16 “I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you[a] this testimony for the churches.
I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star.”

17 The Spirit and the bride say, “Come!” And let the one who hears say, “Come!” Let the one who is thirsty come; and let the one who wishes take the free gift of the water of life.

18 I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this scroll: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to that person the plagues described in this scroll. 19 And if anyone takes words away from this scroll of prophecy, God will take away from that person any share in the tree of life and in the Holy City, which are described in this scroll.

20 He who testifies to these things says, “Yes, I am coming soon.”

Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.
[b]
21 The grace of the Lord Jesus [/b]be with God’s people. Amen. grace of the Lord Jesus be with God’s people. Amen.

Lol, I guess the above is also fake? I understand your frustrations and resort to invectives

Jesus Christ is the first and last, alpha and omega , that is fake too? Lol

I don't see Jehovah there

I weep for your soul
Christianity Etc › Re: My Beef With Jehovah's Witnesses Part One by bingbagbo(op): 7:25pm On Aug 13, 2019
Maximus69:
Abeg shey you don here about Cultists wey no dey

¤Arrogant
¤Vengeful
¤Racists
¤Political
¤Interested in Worldly Fame
¤Title bearers
¤Materialistic

Before? cheesy

The same Jesus Christ fervently prayed to his Father to grant his request regarding his TRUE followers so that they can form ONE body of a happy global family of peace-loving worshippers! John 17:20-23

Halleluyah! It's only the JWs the so called Antichrist and cult were able to achieve this! Matthew 5:14-16 compared to James 2:18-26

Definitely they're Antichrists and Cult, but that means Satan has conquered Jesus since it's Satan's own people that could PEACEFULLY unite in the same line of thought! Romans 15:5-6, 1Corinthians 1:10, Ephesians 4:3

Praise the Lord! cheesy
Very hypocritical as usual

JWs I know are very arrogant

They claim apolitical, yet own voter ID cards, work in government agencies etc seems they don't know what politics

JWs are very hateful especially towards non JWs

I know many JWs who own houses , cars etc so what is materialism? I can't stop laughing

Meanwhile

Collosians 3:17 awaits u
Christianity Etc › Re: My Beef With Jehovah's Witnesses Part One by bingbagbo(op): 7:19pm On Aug 13, 2019
Maximus69:
Abeg shey you don here about Cultists wey no dey

¤Arrogant
¤Vengeful
¤Racists
¤Political
¤Interested in Worldly Fame
¤Title bearers
¤Materialistic

Before? cheesy

The same Jesus Christ fervently prayed to his Father to grant his request regarding his TRUE followers so that they can form ONE body of a happy global family of peace-loving worshippers! John 17:20-23

Halleluyah! It's only the JWs the so called Antichrist and cult were able to achieve this! Matthew 5:14-16 compared to James 2:18-26

Definitely they're Antichrists and Cult, but that means Satan has conquered Jesus since it's Satan's own people that could PEACEFULLY unite in the same line of thought! Romans 15:5-6, 1Corinthians 1:10, Ephesians 4:3

Praise the Lord! cheesy
Colossians 3:17

Whatever you do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks through Him to God the Father.


In all your rants, you didn't address the verse above

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