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Christianity Etc › Re: What Time Was Lucifer Cast Down From Heaven? by bingbagbo(op): 7:14pm On Aug 13, 2019
yosmen:
Among the scriptures u quote, satan and devil are not the same being.
The devil was not casted but Satan was casted from among the stones of fire. The devil is the serpent of eden that was deformed after he was possessed by satan
Lucifer, Satan and the devil is one and same entity, don't be deceived

The Scriptures refer to Satan as an accuser. Revelation 12:10 calls him "the accuser of our brethren who accused them before God day and night...".
Satan wants you to believe that you are not worthy to approach God. But you are not approaching Him on the basis of your worthiness. You are approaching God on the basis of what Jesus did for you at the cross. Remember that, because the devil doesn't want you to know it. He wants to accuse you before God and keep you away


The devil was soundly defeated at the cross of Calvary.
Colossians 2:15, speaking of what Jesus accomplished at the cross, says, "Having disarmed principalities and powers, He made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them in it." At Calvary, the devil lost his foothold and stranglehold on the life of the human race. This means that each of us can be set free by the power of Jesus Christ.
Christianity Etc › Re: Hear What YHWH Says In The Old Testament! Jws And Muslims Invited by bingbagbo(op): 6:09pm On Aug 13, 2019
Janosky, I am still waiting for you oooo
Don't run
Christianity Etc › My Beef With Jehovah's Witnesses Part One by bingbagbo(op): 6:08pm On Aug 13, 2019
Jehovah's witnesses maintain the only true God is called Jehovah, so they do all things in the name of Jehovah.

To them, God revealed the name YHWH to Moses, and this YHWH is pronounced Jehovah, fair enough.

However, scriptures admonish us to do all things in the name of Jesus. See Collosians 3:17

ew International Version
And whatever you do, whether in word or deed, do it all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through him.


English Standard Version
And whatever you do, in word or deed, do everything in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through him.

Berean Study Bible
And whatever you do, in word or deed, do it all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through Him.

Berean Literal Bible
And all, whatever you might do in word or in deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through Him.

New American Standard Bible
Whatever you do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks through Him to God the Father.

King James Bible
And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him.

Christian Standard Bible
And whatever you do, in word or in deed, do everything in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through him.

Contemporary English Version
Whatever you say or do should be done in the name of the Lord Jesus, as you give thanks to God the Father because of him.

Good News Translation
Everything you do or say, then, should be done in the name of the Lord Jesus, as you give thanks through him to God the Father.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
And whatever you do, in word or in deed, do everything in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through Him.

International Standard Version
And whatever you do, whether by speech or action, do everything in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through him.

NET Bible
And whatever you do in word or deed, do it all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through him.

New Heart English Bible
Whatever you do, in word or in deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father, through him.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
And everything that you perform in word and in works, do in the name of our Lord Yeshua The Messiah and give thanks by him to God The Father.

GOD'S WORD® Translation
Everything you say or do should be done in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through him.

New American Standard 1977
And whatever you do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks through Him to God the Father.

Jubilee Bible 2000
And whatever ye do whether in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to the God and Father by him.

King James 2000 Bible
And whatsoever you do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father by him.

American King James Version
And whatever you do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him.

American Standard Version
And whatsoever ye do, in word or in deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through him.

Douay-Rheims Bible
All whatsoever you do in word or in work, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, giving thanks to God and the Father by him.

Darby Bible Translation
And everything, whatever ye may do in word or in deed, [do] all things in [the] name of [the] Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father by him.

English Revised Version
And whatsoever ye do, in word or in deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through him.

Webster's Bible Translation
And whatever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him.

Weymouth New Testament
And whatever you do, in word or in deed, do everything in the name of the Lord Jesus, and let it be through Him that you give thanks to God the Father.

World English Bible
Whatever you do, in word or in deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father, through him.

Young's Literal Translation
and all, whatever ye may do in word or in work, do all things in the name of the Lord Jesus -- giving thanks to the God and Father, through him.


It is so clear. The Apostles who were the earliest Christians, did all things in the name of Jesus. No where did the apostles do something in any other name. They baptised, healed , prayed, worshiped etc all in the name of the Lord Jesus. So where from Jehovah ?

JW is Antichrist and a cult

Jesus Christ is God Almighty
Christianity Etc › Re: Hear What YHWH Says In The Old Testament! Jws And Muslims Invited by bingbagbo(op): 5:45pm On Aug 13, 2019
Revelation 4 King James Version (KJV)

4 After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter.

2 And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne.

3 And he that sat was to look upon like a jasper and a sardine stone: and there was a rainbow round about the throne, in sight like unto an emerald.

4 And round about the throne were four and twenty seats: and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting, clothed in white raiment; and they had on their heads crowns of gold.

5 And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God.

6 And before the throne there was a sea of glass like unto crystal: and in the midst of the throne, and round about the throne, were four beasts full of eyes before and behind.

7 And the first beast was like a lion, and the second beast like a calf, and the third beast had a face as a man, and the fourth beast was like a flying eagle.

8 And the four beasts had each of them six wings about him; and they were full of eyes within: and they rest not day and night, saying, Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come.

9 And when those beasts give glory and honour and thanks to him that sat on the throne, who liveth for ever and ever,

10 The four and twenty elders fall down before him that sat on the throne, and worship him that liveth for ever and ever, and cast their crowns before the throne, saying,

11 Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.

My question for you Janosky is, Who is on the throne?

Is it Jesus Christ or your Jehovah?

Sincere answer

Remember, one sat on the throne

And all things were created by him and for him

This is buttressed by a description of Jesus Christ in Colossians 1:16


Colossians 1:16-20 King James Version (KJV)

16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

Don't run away oo
Christianity Etc › Re: Hear What YHWH Says In The Old Testament! Jws And Muslims Invited by bingbagbo(op): 5:38pm On Aug 13, 2019
Janosky:
I have done a more thorough check...

John 19:37
And, as another Scripture says: "They will
look on the One they have pierced."


Not YHWH.... but his son.

"My God, my God, why have you forsaken me" Matt 27:46.

Or you mean that YHWH was crying to His God? or to himself?

Bing, does the Most High God,YHWH have a God?
Interesting, so to you the plethora of versions which translatesa...and they will look upon me are all wrong? That's interesting

I don't blame you that you don't Jesus says 'my God'

Who is the President of Nigeria? Buhari , correct

Is president a person ? No, is it a title ? Yes

OK now Buhari is the President of Nigeria,

Now , is Buhari nigerian too? Yes. Who is his president ? Same Buhari

President Buhari s President is President Buhari

Jesus Christ ( The physical manifestation of YHWH who is God Almighty and who is this same Jesus) has YHWH who is spirit as God.

If you get to heaven, you will see Jesus Christ seated on the throne of God.

Jesus Christ is God Almighty
Christianity Etc › Re: What Time Was Lucifer Cast Down From Heaven? by bingbagbo(op): 5:21pm On Aug 13, 2019
blackpanthar:
Beloved brother, why are you exercising your mind in things that will NOT profit you, NOT ALL KNOWLEDGE is GAINFUL at the moment.... KNOWLEDGE puffs up..... especially when it is not practical.

here consider these scriptures:
Deuteronomy 29:29 Amplified Bible,
29 There are secret things that belong unto the Lord our God, but the things which are revealed belong to us and to our children forever, that we may do all of the words of this BOOK.

JESUS sent us to seek and save the LOST... and to PREACH the GOSPEL to the world and make disciples of NATIONS..... it is wise to focus on that... because there are many IDEOLOGIES in the bible that give lots of HINTS to TIME TRAVEL, ALIENS, OTHER WORLDS... these Ideologies are NOT going to help us become better Disciples....

I suggest you focus on what we have been told to focus on, else you will confuse your soul sir... JESUS focused and FINISHED....Paul did same too. Pls lets be guided accurately
I understand you bro, i am not confused all, on the contrary do you know the greatest commandment? Love the lord your God with all your soul, all your mind and all your heart. It is never a distraction to discuss the word of God, rather an indication of ones obsession.

There are many that will read this post and fall in love with scriptures.

Respectfully, my opinion!
Christianity Etc › Re: What Time Was Lucifer Cast Down From Heaven? by bingbagbo(op): 5:06pm On Aug 13, 2019
Genesis 3:1–6, when the serpent bursts onto the scenne. He comes to Eve in the garden in Eden:


Now the serpent was more crafty than any other beast of the field that the Lord God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God actually say, ‘You shall not eat of any tree in the garden’?” And the woman said to the serpent, “We may eat of the fruit of the trees in the garden, but God said, ‘You shall not eat of the fruit of the tree that is in the midst of the garden, neither shall you touch it, lest you die.’” But the serpent said to the woman, “You will not surely die. For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.” So when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was to be desired to make one wise, she took of its fruit and ate, and she also gave some to her husband who was with her, and he ate.

This serpent appeared more experienced on the earth than Adam and his wife, but where did he gain that experience? It is obvious he was used by Lucifer, which suggests, Lucifer had already been cast down before Adam and Eve inhabited the earth.

The serpent is compared to the other beasts of the field yet characterized as “crafty” (arum). This word is used positively elsewhere in the Bible (“prudent” in Proverbs 12:16, 14:cool but it is also used in a negative sense, (Job 5:12, 15:5) such as the case in this narrative. The serpent is not only described as being crafty or cunning; Scripture also tells us that this creature spoke. The Bible later identifies this particular serpent as Satan (see Revelation 12:9, 20:2; cf. 2 Corinthians 11:3, 14). As Christians, we need to be aware of Satan’s devices so that we are not outwitted by him (2 Corinthians 2:11), for his nature is that of being a liar (John 8:44).


Satan’s temptation of Eve in Genesis 3 gives us several insight regarding when he was cast down, that it was before the physical creation of Adam and Eve.
Christianity Etc › Re: What Time Was Lucifer Cast Down From Heaven? by bingbagbo(op): 4:56pm On Aug 13, 2019
Genesis 1:2

The earth was formless and empty, and darkness covered the deep waters. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the surface of the waters.

Mentions of formless , empty and darkness is a potential clue to resolving the problem of when Lucifer was cast down.

God is light, and in him there is no darkness, why would his perfect creation be in darkness? This mention of darkness leads me to
2 Peter 2:4 'For if God did not spare the angels who sinned, but cast them down to hell and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved for judgment; '

Could this darkness that covered the
Earth be the punitive chains mentioned much later by Peter?
Christianity Etc › Re: What Time Was Lucifer Cast Down From Heaven? by bingbagbo(op): 4:48pm On Aug 13, 2019
Revelation 12:12

12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
Christianity Etc › Re: Hear What YHWH Says In The Old Testament! Jws And Muslims Invited by bingbagbo(op): 4:33pm On Aug 13, 2019
Janosky:
bing Twister of the living word of the true God.

@1) When did Saul persecute Jesus?

*** Acts 9:4-5.
4Then he fell to the ground, and
heard a voice saying to him, “Saul, Saul,
why are you persecuting Me?”
5And he said, “Who are You, Lord?”
Then the Lord said, “I am Jesus, whom you
are persecuting. It is hard for you to kick
against the goads.”
S
Why are you dodging the questions in the op?

OK , i will assume you didn't see so I will repeat them

When was YHWH pierced?

When was YHWH mourned for?

Still waiting for your answer
Christianity Etc › What Time Was Lucifer Cast Down From Heaven? by bingbagbo(op): 4:29pm On Aug 13, 2019
Scriptures make us understand Lucifer the devil, A.K.A Satan the dragon once was a citizen of Heaven. He sinned with a third of the heavenly host, a war ensued and they were mercilessly beaten. After their defeat, they were expelled from heaven.


Revelation 12:7-10
And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought with the dragon; and the dragon and his angels fought, but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them in heaven any longer. So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. Then I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, 'Now salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren, who accused them before our God day and night, has been cast down.

Isaiah 14:12-15
"How you are fallen from heaven,
O Lucifer, son of the morning!
How you are cut down to the ground,
You who weakened the nations!
For you have said in your heart:
'I will ascend into heaven,
I will exalt my throne above the stars of God;
I will also sit on the mount of the congregation
On the farthest sides of the north;
I will ascend above the heights of the clouds,
I will be like the Most High.'
Yet you shall be brought down to Sheol,
To the lowest depths of the Pit.


Jude 1:6
And the angels who did not keep their proper domain, but left their own abode, He has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness for the judgment of the great day;

Ezekiel 28:12-17
"Son of man, take up a lamentation for the king of Tyre, and say to him, 'Thus says the Lord GOD:
"You were the seal of perfection,
Full of wisdom and perfect in beauty.
You were in Eden, the garden of God;
Every precious stone was your covering:
The sardius, topaz, and diamond,
Beryl, onyx, and jasper,
Sapphire, turquoise, and emerald with gold.
The workmanship of your timbrels and pipes
Was prepared for you on the day you were created.
"You were the anointed cherub who covers;
I established you;
You were on the holy mountain of God;
You walked back and forth in the midst of fiery stones.
You were perfect in your ways from the day you were created,
Till iniquity was found in you.
"By the abundance of your trading
You became filled with violence within,
And you sinned;
Therefore I cast you as a profane thing
Out of the mountain of God;
And I destroyed you, O covering cherub,
From the midst of the fiery stones.
"Your heart was lifted up because of your beauty;
You corrupted your wisdom for the sake of your splendor;
I cast you to the ground,
I laid you before kings,
That they might gaze at you.


2 Peter 2:4
For if God did not spare the angels who sinned, but cast them down to hell and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved for judgment;

Revelation 12:4
His tail drew a third of the stars of heaven and threw them to the earth. And the dragon stood before the woman who was ready to give birth, to devour her Child as soon as it was born.


The above verses highlight this historical event that took place in the spiritual realm.

The question is, at what point in time did this expulsion take place?

Thanks
Christianity Etc › This Is My Belief Regarding Fish Rain by bingbagbo(op): 11:39am On Aug 13, 2019
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Genesis 1:6-10 King James Version (KJV)

6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.

7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.


8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.

10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.


The earth was surrounded by water, there was no atmosphere and no sky. A careful study of verse 7 reveals that, God separated the waters ( occupying what we call the atmosphere now) in that, He pushed some waters up (first heaven) and the rest down (the oceans) resulting in an empty space (Atmosphere). This means there were two basic water bodies derived from this separation, the one on the land (the ocean) and the other in the first heaven (the sky). God called fishes to inhabit the oceans, fishes of all kind. I am of the belief that, God also filled the waters of heaven with fishes as well, but not visible to the natural eyes. Probably as a storehouse for fish among others, to periodically replenish the fishes in the oceans on earth.

Several fishermen the world over testify about seeing fishes drop from the skies into the ocean, a phenomenon a little different from fish rain. There are fishermen that claim to have seen these fishes released from huge sacks from the skies.

We serve an amazing God

His name is Jesus Christ and at the mention of his name, every knee bows

Christianity Etc › Hear What YHWH Says In The Old Testament! Jws And Muslims Invited by bingbagbo(op): 10:02pm On Aug 12, 2019
Then I will pour out on the house of David and on the people of Jerusalem a spirit of grace and prayer, and they will look on Me, the One they have pierced. They will mourn for Him as one mourns an only child, and weep bitterly for Him as one grieves a firstborn son (Zachariah 12:10)

This is the voice of YHWH

My question for you is..

When was YHWH pierced?

When was YHWH mourned for?


Still waiting
Christianity Etc › Jesus Christ Still Loves You; Please Read! by bingbagbo(op): 8:49pm On Aug 12, 2019
he Lord Jesus Christ still loves you

I bought four sheep a few weeks ago, and decided to rear them, because of my love for animals. Before I have reared grasscutter, goats, rats, turkey, pangolin, snails and a lot more, just Want to emphasize my passion for animals.

I realised the sheep were relatively obedient. I began introducing them to my backyard so they get used to the place and also keep fit and healthy. I try as much as possible to Shepherd them so they don't go astray and of course so I don't lose the money I spent on purchasing them.

Yesterday, as usual, I released them into my backyard as they fed and I shepherded them. Before I could say jack, they had veered into a neighbours compound. I rushed there to drive them back to my house. I was successful in driving them from my voodoo practitioner neighbor's house but unfortunately they headed not for my house but right into town. I can't describe the stress, trauma and discomfort with which I pursued them. I was losing four sheep I had bought with hard earned cash, animals I so love meanwhile they cared less. One male and three pregnant females. By the grace of Jesus, I was able to apprehend the male and one female, left with two huge pregnant ewes, without a clue pertaining their whereabout.

I combed the entire town throughout the day but to no avail. In the evening, around 7PM, I had a call that they had been sighted somewhere, I invited a few friends to the said site, truly the two ewe were there, but we failed to get them. It was quite a depressing feel. I went to bed around 10PM very disappointed. I had virtually spent my entire day trying to recapture my beloved sheep, my hard earned investment. Very early this morning, I resumed my search. I was really tired, but was not ready to give up on them.

I combed the entire town again but to no avail, so I returned home very tired and heartbroken. It was then the Lord Jesus spoke to me. He told me I was going to find my sheep, he showed me where I would find them. He told me what I was experiencing has been his experience in his relationship with me. I nearly broke down, this story is not cooked, I tell you dear reader. It was then I reflected. I realised , the amount with which I purchased these animals was no where near the Lord paid for my salvation. The Lord actually bought me with his very blood,
'Keep watch over yourselves and all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers. Be shepherds of the church of God, which he bought with his own blood' (Acts 20:28).

I thanked the Lord and went where the Lord showed me and behold, I found them. With the help of a few friends, I caught both sheep. This experience, uneasy though, yet has taught me a lot about faith in the Lord Jesus Christ.

1. The Lord Jesus Christ loves those he has bought unconditionally, He will never leave nor forsake you, never! (Hebrews 13:5-6 )

2. The Lord Jesus (Holy Spirit) grieves when we go astray just as it happened to me

3. No matter your sin, please return to him, He is searching for you, He is the good Shepherd.

4. You safest with the Lord Jesus Christ.

Please, go back home! Jesus loves you.

Thanks.

Bin
Christianity Etc › Who Do Men Say I Am?-jesus Christ Of Nazareth by bingbagbo(op):
The Lord Jesus Christ still loves you

I bought four sheep a few weeks ago, and decided to rear them, because of my love for animals. Before I have reared grasscutter, goats, rats, turkey, pangolin, snails and a lot more, just Want to emphasize my passion for animals.

I realised the sheep were relatively obedient. I began introducing them to my backyard so they get used to the place and also keep fit and healthy. I try as much as possible to Shepherd them so they don't go astray and of course so I don't lose the money I spent on purchasing them.

Yesterday, as usual, I released them into my backyard as they fed and I shepherded them. Before I could say jack, they had veered into a neighbours compound. I rushed there to drive them back to my house. I was successful in driving them from my voodoo practitioner neighbor's house but unfortunately they headed not for my house but right into town. I can't describe the stress, trauma and discomfort with which I pursued them. I was losing four sheep I had bought with hard earned cash, animals I so love meanwhile they cared less. One male and three pregnant females. By the grace of Jesus, I was able to apprehend the male and one female, left with two huge pregnant ewes, without a clue pertaining their whereabout.

I combed the entire town throughout the day but to no avail. In the evening, around 7PM, I had a call that they had been sighted somewhere, I invited a few friends to the said site, truly the two ewe were there, but we failed to get them. It was quite a depressing feel. I went to bed around 10PM very disappointed. I had virtually spent my entire day trying to recapture my beloved sheep, my hard earned investment. Very early this morning, I resumed my search. I was really tired, but was not ready to give up on them.

I combed the entire town again but to no avail, so I returned home very tired and heartbroken. It was then the Lord Jesus spoke to me. He told me I was going to find my sheep, he showed me where I would find them. He told me what I was experiencing has been his experience in his relationship with me. I nearly broke down, this story is not cooked, I tell you dear reader. It was then I reflected. I realised , the amount with which I purchased these animals was no where near the Lord paid for my salvation. The Lord actually bought me with his very blood,
'Keep watch over yourselves and all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers. Be shepherds of the church of God, which he bought with his own blood' (Acts 20:28).

I thanked the Lord and went where the Lord showed me and behold, I found them. With the help of a few friends, I caught both sheep. This experience, uneasy though, yet has taught me a lot about faith in the Lord Jesus Christ.

Who do men say I am was a question Jesus asked His disciples and this question remains the most debated in theology to date.

Peter gave the right answer, You are the Christ.

But who is the Christ? Let dive into scripture with all objectivity.



Does the Bible, which is the earliest and most historically reliable source, actually say Jesus is God? What does it tell us about Jesus and His identity?

Let’s take a brief look at a few of the many passages that clearly and consistently answer that question, straight from the pages of Scripture. We’ll begin by going back an additional 700 years before the life of Christ, to the Old Testament book of Isaiah.

Jesus is God – Prophecies
Divine Messiah predicted in the Old Testament
Isaiah 7:14: “Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel.”1

“Immanuel” literally means: “God with us.” See also Matthew 1:23; Jesus was “God with us.”


This Messiah would be born a human son, but have a higher nature
Isaiah 9:6: “For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And He will be called Wonderful Counselor, [b]Mighty God, Everlasting Father, P[/b]rince of Peace.”

This was a radical statement coming from a monotheistic Jewish prophet -- especially calling a human being “Mighty God”; and everlasting Father but one that God fulfilled centuries later in Christ.

A couple hundred years later, but still more than half a millennium before Jesus walked the earth, more was predicted about the Messiah’s divine nature

Daniel 7:13-14: “There before me was one like a son of man, coming with the clouds of heaven . . . He was given authority, glory and sovereign power; all peoples, nations and men of every language worshiped him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will never be destroyed.”

“Son of Man” was the primary title Jesus used for Himself -- and this passage shows that this was a clear and strong claim of deity. And in Mark, the earliest of the four Gospels, He also included the unmistakable phrase, “coming on the clouds of heaven” and applied it to Himself (Mark 14:62). His listeners got the point, refused to believe it, and added it to their reasons to try to kill Him.

Jesus is God – His Earthly Ministry
The baby Jesus worshiped by the Magi
Matthew 2:11: “On coming to the house, they saw the child with his mother Mary, and they bowed down and worshiped him.”

Along with being led to the site where Jesus was born, these Magi were apparently informed by God about Jesus’ divine identity, and so they responded appropriately by worshiping Him.

Jesus accepted worship from His disciples
Matthew 14:32-33: “And when they climbed into the boat, the wind died down. Then those who were in the boat worshiped him, saying, ‘Truly you are the Son of God.’”

In a Jewish culture, only the one true God can be worshiped; their actions show that they acknowledged Jesus as being the physical manifestation of God divine. And Jesus didn’t correct them or say, “Don’t you realize that I’m just a mortal prophet? Stop worshiping me!” Rather, He accepted their worship, knowing He really was God in human flesh.

Jesus’ claim about Himself
John 8:58-59: "‘I tell you the truth,’ Jesus answered, ‘before Abraham was born, I am!’ At this, they picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus hid himself, slipping away from the temple grounds.”

This is a powerful double claim from Jesus: first, that He pre-existed His human birth and was actually alive and present (as God) before Abraham; second, that His title was “I am” -- which was the same title used for YHWH God in Exodus 3:14. His listeners again got the point, and picked up stones to execute Him!

Another of Jesus’ claims of deity
John 10:30-33: “‘I and the Father are one.’ Again the Jews picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus said to them, ‘I have shown you many great miracles from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?’ ‘We are not stoning you for any of these,’ replied the Jews, ‘but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.’”

It couldn’t be clearer than it is here: Jesus’ highly educated listeners understood His claim of deity. They only had two possible responses: to humble themselves and bow before Him as the Magi and the disciples had done earlier, or reject His claim and judge Him as a blasphemer. Unfortunately they chose the latter option. But notice that Jesus doesn’t argue with their accusation, because it was accurate. He really was claiming to be God!

Thomas’ response to the resurrected Jesus
John 20:27-29: “Then He said to Thomas, ‘Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe.’ Thomas said to him, ‘My Lord and my God!’ Then Jesus told him, ‘Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.’"

This disciple realized, because of Jesus’ resurrection, who Jesus really was -- and humbly worshiped Him and declared His true identity: “My Lord and my God!” Jesus not only accepts this declaration, but blesses all of the disciples -- and all of us today -- who come to the same realization and place of humble worship.


True Christianity is Knowing who Jesus Christ is. Beloved, Jesus Christ is the only true God

Yes you heard me. And a true Christian is one that worships Christ. Jesus Christ is seated on the throne of Heaven. Hallelujah
Christianity Etc › Re: Do You Know God? by bingbagbo(op): 9:57am On Aug 11, 2019
Listen to what Jesus says to the Pharisees in John 8:19 (the really serious Jews): “You know neither me nor my Father. If you knew me, you would know my Father also.” They don’t even know God. They’re just like the Samaritans. “You worship what you do not know.” All such worship Jesus says is “vain,” empty (Matthew 15:9). It is not “true worship” (John 4:23).


‘We Worship What We Know’
So what does Jesus mean in verse 22b: “We worship what we know, for salvation is from the Jews.” He means that Jews teach that a Savior is coming into the world. He is coming as the Son of David, the Messiah.

And because there will be a Savior, true knowledge of God and true worship of God are possible. The very last clause of this whole story (that runs from verse 1 to verse 42) is the announcement of the Samaritans in the town of Sychar: “We know that this is indeed the Savior of the world” (verse 42).


When Jesus says (verse 22b), “Salvation is from the Jews” and because of that “we worship what we know,” he means a Savior is coming into the world who will make it possible for sinners (like people who have been married five times and are living with their boyfriend) to know God, call him Father, and worship him in truth.
Christianity Etc › Do You Know God? by bingbagbo(op): 9:40am On Aug 11, 2019
Many claim they know God
Many claim 'their God' is the right God
But hear oh Israel, the Lord our God is one Lord.
The Lord is God.
There is no God besides the Lord.
But who is the Lord?


For who is God besides the LORD? And who is the Rock except our God?

Remember God is not a name?

The Lord is none but the Lord Jesus Christ.

He is the True God.

You worship what you do not know
Christianity Etc › Re: What Sort Of Man Is This??? by bingbagbo(op): 4:26pm On Aug 10, 2019
ichuka:
The wind and sea heard the Voice of there creator and obey.
Sure
Christianity Etc › They Said Jesus Was Blaspheming Just Like They Tell His Followers Now by bingbagbo(op): 11:04am On Aug 10, 2019
Matthew 9:1-10

Jesus Forgives and Heals a Paralyzed Man
9 Jesus stepped into a boat, crossed over and came to his own town. 2 Some men brought to him a paralyzed man, lying on a mat. When Jesus saw their faith, he said to the man, “Take heart, son; your sins are forgiven.”

3 At this, some of the teachers of the law said to themselves, “This fellow is blaspheming!”

4[b] Knowing their thoughts,[/b] Jesus said, “Why do you entertain evil thoughts in your hearts? 5 Which is easier: to say, ‘Your sins are forgiven,’ or to say, ‘Get up and walk’? 6 But I want you to know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins.” So he said to the paralyzed man, “Get up, take your mat and go home.” 7 Then the man got up and went home. 8 When the crowd saw this, they were filled with awe; and they praised God, who had given such authority to man.

Which Angel or man knows the thoughts of men but God?

Who forgives sins but God?

Why did Jesus call the paralyzed man Son? How was the youngman Jesus a father to the paralyzed man?

And again I repeat the question Jesus asked, which is easier to say? Your sins are forgiven or rise up and walk?

Jesus Christ is God Almighty
Christianity Etc › Re: 160 Reasons Why Jesus Christ Is God Almighty, What Satanists Don't Want You To K by bingbagbo(op): 2:08pm On Aug 09, 2019
Jesus Christ is God Almighty
Christianity Etc › Re: 160 Reasons Why Jesus Christ Is God Almighty, What Satanists Don't Want You To K by bingbagbo(op): 7:50am On Aug 09, 2019
Janosky:
"Nobody in right sense and mind will be
arguing with fact. I know that your
mind has already been taken away
from you by the devil. Either God
deliver you or you die like that and you
will know the truth after your death."

***** Solohmony, why do you graft your NONSENSICAL post into my post?

One man is husband to his wife,Father to his kids etc, did Jesus say himself is the Father and holy spirit?

Acts9:20, what did apostle Paul preach after he received holy spirit?

Rev3:2,5 who did Jesus Christ in heaven call "my Father", "my God" ?
Why would your "almighty God" living in heaven call another Superior Being "my God"?

In John20:28, Thomas said "my God", in Rev3:2, Jesus said "my God", are they saying the same thing?


You have the option to give answers to series of questions you been dodge or just shut up....
How many Gods do you JWs have? If two then you are antichrists since there is only but one God. How come you JWs have Almighty God and a mighty God? JWs why this blatant lie?

Jesus Christ is Lord and God of all

Here what Jesus is asking you unruly JW..

, 'I am Jesus, the one you are persecu[b]ting. [ It is hard for you to kick against the goads.' 6So[/b] Saul, shaking and astounded, asked, 'Lord, what do you want me to do?' The Lord said to Saul,] 'Arise and go into the city, and there you will be told what you must do.' ” (Acts 9:3-6)


Repent!
Christianity Etc › Re: What Sort Of Man Is This??? by bingbagbo(op): 7:44am On Aug 09, 2019
hakeem4:
A mad man!
May the Lord forgive you
Christianity Etc › Re: What Sort Of Man Is This??? by bingbagbo(op): 7:42am On Aug 09, 2019
Psalm 135:7

He causes the vapors to ascend from the ends of the earth; Who makes lightnings for the rain, Who brings forth the wind from His treasuries.

Psalm 147:8

Who covers the heavens with clouds, Who provides rain for the earth, Who makes grass to grow on the mountains.

Psalm 148:8

Fire and hail, snow and clouds; Stormy wind, fulfilling His word;

Jeremiah 10:13

When He utters His voice, there is a tumult of waters in the heavens, And He causes the clouds to ascend from the end of the earth; He makes lightning for the rain, And brings out the wind from His storehouses.

Proverbs 3:19-20
The LORD by wisdom founded the earth, By understanding He established the heavens. By His knowledge the deeps were broken up And the skies drip with dew.

John 3:8

"The wind blows where it wishes and you hear the sound of it, but do not know where it comes from and where it is going; so is everyone who is born of the Spirit."

Job 36:26-33
"Behold, God is exalted, and we do not know Him; The number of His years is unsearchable. "For He draws up the drops of water, They distill rain from the mist, Which the clouds pour down, They drip upon man abundantly.

Job 38:22-30
"Have you entered the storehouses of the snow, Or have you seen the storehouses of the hail, Which I have reserved for the time of distress, For the day of war and battle? "Where is the way that the light is divided, Or the east wind scattered on the earth?

Leviticus 26:4

then I shall give you rains in their season, so that the land will yield its produce and the trees of the field will bear their fruit.

Deuteronomy 11:10-15
"For the land, into which you are entering to possess it, is not like the land of Egypt from which you came, where you used to sow your seed and water it with your foot like a vegetable garden. "But the land into which you are about to cross to possess it, a land of hills and valleys, drinks water from the rain of heaven, a land for which the LORD your God cares; the eyes of the LORD your God are always on it, from the beginning even to the end of the year.


Deuteronomy 28:12

"The LORD will open for you His good storehouse, the heavens, to give rain to your land in its season and to bless all the work of your hand; and you shall lend to many nations, but you shall not borrow.

Jeremiah 5:24

'They do not say in their heart, "Let us now fear the LORD our God, Who gives rain in its season, Both the autumn rain and the spring rain, Who keeps for us The appointed weeks of the harvest."

Hosea 6:3

"So let us know, let us press on to know the LORD His going forth is as certain as the dawn; And He will come to us like the rain, Like the spring rain watering the earth."

Genesis 8:22

"While the earth remains, Seedtime and harvest, And cold and heat, And summer and winter, And day and night Shall not cease."


Matthew 5:45

so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.

Acts 14:17

and yet He did not leave Himself without witness, in that He did good and gave you rains from heaven and fruitful seasons, satisfying your hearts with food and gladness."

Genesis 9:14-16
"It shall come about, when I bring a cloud over the earth, that the bow will be seen in the cloud, and I will remember My covenant, which is between Me and you and every living creature of all flesh; and never again shall the water become a flood to destroy all flesh. "When the bow is in the cloud, then I will look upon it, to remember the everlasting covenant between God and every living creature of all flesh that is on the earth."


Deuteronomy 33:13-14
Of Joseph he said, "Blessed of the LORD be his land, With the choice things of heaven, with the dew, And from the deep lying beneath, And with the choice yield of the sun, And with the choice produce of the months.

Psalm 68:7-9
O God, when You went forth before Your people, When You marched through the wilderness, Selah. The earth quaked; The heavens also dropped rain at the presence of God; Sinai itself quaked at the presence of God, the God of Israel. You shed abroad a plentiful rain, O God; You confirmed Your inheritance when it was parched.

Isaiah 30:23

Then He will give you rain for the seed which you will sow in the ground, and bread from the yield of the ground, and it will be rich and plenteous; on that day your livestock will graze in a roomy pasture.


Isaiah 49:10

"They will not hunger or thirst, Nor will the scorching heat or sun strike them down; For He who has compassion on them will lead them And will guide them to springs of water.

Joel 2:23

So rejoice, O sons of Zion, And be glad in the LORD your God; For He has given you the early rain for your vindication And He has poured down for you the rain, The early and latter rain as before.

Zechariah 10:1

Ask rain from the LORD at the time of the spring rain-- The LORD who makes the storm clouds; And He will give them showers of rain, vegetation in the field to each man.


Jonah 1:4

The LORD hurled a great wind on the sea and there was a great storm on the sea so that the ship was about to break up.

Exodus 14:21

Then Moses stretched out his hand over the sea; and the LORD swept the sea back by a strong east wind all night and turned the sea into dry land, so the waters were divided.


Numbers 11:31

Now there went forth a wind from the LORD and it brought quail from the sea, and let them fall beside the camp, about a day's journey on this side and a day's journey on the other side, all around the camp and about two cubits deep on the surface of the ground.


Psalm 78:26

He caused the east wind to blow in the heavens And by His power He directed the south wind.

Jonah 4:8

When the sun came up God appointed a scorching east wind, and the sun beat down on Jonah's head so that he became faint and begged with all his soul to die, saying, "Death is better to me than life."


James 5:17-18
Elijah was a man with a nature like ours, and he prayed earnestly that it would not rain, and it did not rain on the earth for three years and six months. Then he prayed again, and the sky poured rain and the earth produced its fruit.

1 Samuel 12:17-18
"Is it not the wheat harvest today? I will call to the LORD, that He may send thunder and rain Then you will know and see that your wickedness is great which you have done in the sight of the LORD by asking for yourselves a king." So Samuel called to the LORD, and the LORD sent thunder and rain that day; and all the people greatly feared the LORD and Samuel.

1 Kings 8:35-36
"When the heavens are shut up and there is no rain, because they have sinned against You, and they pray toward this place and confess Your name and turn from their sin when You afflict them, then hear in heaven and forgive the sin of Your servants and of Your people Israel, indeed, teach them the good way in which they should walk And send rain on Your land, which You have given Your people for an inheritance.
2 Chronicles 6:26-27
"When the heavens are shut up and there is no rain because they have sinned against You, and they pray toward this place and confess Your name, and turn from their sin when You afflict them; then hear in heaven and forgive the sin of Your servants and Your people Israel, indeed, teach them the good way in which they should walk. And send rain on Your land which You have given to Your people for an inheritance.
1 Kings 18:41-44
Now Elijah said to Ahab, "Go up, eat and drink; for there is the sound of the roar of a heavy shower." So Ahab went up to eat and drink. But Elijah went up to the top of Carmel; and he crouched down on the earth and put his face between his knees. He said to his servant, "Go up now, look toward the sea." So he went up and looked and said, "There is nothing." And he said, "Go back" seven times.read more.
Genesis 31:40

"Thus I was: by day the heat consumed me and the frost by night, and my sleep fled from my eyes.
Acts 28:2

The natives showed us extraordinary kindness; for because of the rain that had set in and because of the cold, they kindled a fire and received us all.
Ezra 10:9

So all the men of Judah and Benjamin assembled at Jerusalem within the three days. It was the ninth month on the twentieth of the month, and all the people sat in the open square before the house of God, trembling because of this matter and the heavy rain.
Job 1:16

While he was still speaking, another also came and said, "The fire of God fell from heaven and burned up the sheep and the servants and consumed them, and I alone have escaped to tell you."
Matthew 20:12

saying, 'These last men have worked only one hour, and you have made them equal to us who have borne the burden and the scorching heat of the day.'
John 18:18
Verse Concepts
Now the slaves and the officers were standing there, having made a charcoal fire, for it was cold and they were warming themselves; and Peter was also with them, standing and warming himself.
Acts 27:1
and when the ship was caught in it and could not face the wind, we gave way to it and let ourselves be driven along.
Christianity Etc › What Sort Of Man Is This??? by bingbagbo(op): 7:18am On Aug 09, 2019
Matthew 8:23-27 King James Version (KJV)

23 And when he was entered into a ship, his disciples followed him.

24 And, behold, there arose a great tempest in the sea, insomuch that the ship was covered with the waves: but he was asleep.

25 And his disciples came to him, and awoke him, saying, Lord, save us: we perish.

26 And he saith unto them, Why are ye fearful, O ye of little faith? Then he arose, and rebuked the winds and the sea; and there was a great calm.

27 But the men marvelled, saying, What manner of man is this, that even the winds and the sea obey him!

So I am also asking , what manner of man is this?

This man is God himself. He created all things and controls all things.

Great is the mystery of Godliness. God was manifested in the flesh (1Timothy 3:16)

Hallelujah
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Else Spoke To Men From Heaven Apart From God In The Bible? by bingbagbo(op): 7:14am On Aug 09, 2019
sonmvayina:
God is the personification of the totality of the consciousness of the Universe, not a man or human being... Biblical stories are all allegory.... And metaphorical.... Read the stories and learn the hidden messages..
I pity you


Indeed the fo0l says in his heart...

Jesus Christ is God Almighty
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Else Spoke To Men From Heaven Apart From God In The Bible? by bingbagbo(op): 10:04am On Aug 08, 2019
Evo11:
Hi
Hello
Christianity Etc › Who Else Spoke To Men From Heaven Apart From God In The Bible? by bingbagbo(op): 9:59am On Aug 08, 2019
Acts 9:1-19
¶“1Saul kept breathing out threats and slaughter against the disciples of the Lord. He went to the high priest 2and asked him for letters to the synagogues of Damascus. The letters authorized Saul, if he found any who were of the Way, whether men or women, to bring them bound to Jerusalem.” (Acts 9:1-2).

¶“3As Saul, on his journey to Damascus, came near the city, suddenly a light from the sky shone around him. 4He fell to the ground, and heard a voice saying to him, 'Saul, Saul, why do you persecute me?' 5Saul said, 'Who are you, Lord?' The Lord replied, 'I am Jesus, the one you are persecuting. [ It is hard for you to kick against the goads.' 6So Saul, shaking and astounded, asked, 'Lord, what do you want me to do?' The Lord said to Saul,] 'Arise and go into the city, and there you will be told what you must do.' ” (Acts 9:3-6)


This is Jesus Christ of Nazareth speaking from Heaven to a man Saul. He spoke in same style and fashion as the God of the old testament who is actually this same Jesus Christ.

Again, have u wondered why ever since Jesus Christ was born, God ceased from speaking ? I know some will refer to the voice that came during the baptism of Jesus Christ and the transfiguration, yeah those voices were a sign to those around the Lord Jesus Christ.

Will be right back...
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Christ Is God Almighty by bingbagbo(op): 9:32am On Aug 08, 2019
elated177:
Aren't my points obvious? Here you go insulting me. I never accused you of not having a good understanding of the Scriptures.

The role of Mary as the mother of Yahushua the Messiah ended the moment she delivered him into the world. She was just a vessel. Is she still mothering the Messiah today? The Messiah never ascribed any special role or honour to Mary. When you describe her as the mother of God, you are inadvertently - I hope - making her immortal and at the same time making her equal with Yahushua the Messiah, our Master. Mary is not the mother of Yahushua the Messiah, rather she was the mother of Yahushua the Messiah. There is a difference. YHVH Almighty is the Father of Yahushua the Messiah.

There are many gods, but there is one God, YHVH Almighty, the Creator of the ends of the earth. He is one with his Word, his Son, Yahushua the Messiah. YHVH Almighty is the Law in this world and to everything he has created. His Word, his Son, is the Law. The Scriptures did not mince words in alluding to this issue. Some people just decide to ignore it.

Even king David was one of the ancestors of Yahushua the Messiah genealogically, but David called Yahushua the Messiah his Master.

Mary cannot save anyone, any more than Abraham could quench the thirst of that rich man. As far as salvation is concerned, Mary's paurt ended the moment she delivered the Messiah into the world.

Don't worry. The Set-apart Spirit of YHVH Almighty is with and in this saint, Elated177. How else do you think I got everything I have said here? Do you think it came from human understanding? What you are propagating appeals to the flesh and not to a Set-apart Spirit-filled saint. No saint of YHVH Almighty will ever subscribe to what you are espousing.

Like I stated earlier, the righteous walk is an individual one. The Father in heaven can only draw those he loves to his Word, his Son.

There is no compulsion.

El Elohe Yahshrael! Hallelu Yah!
Gbam!
Christianity Etc › Re: 160 Reasons Why Jesus Christ Is God Almighty, What Satanists Don't Want You To K by bingbagbo(op): 6:33am On Aug 08, 2019
OnPointMan:
When Jesus prayed, was he praying to himself?
Jesus Christ was God Almighty (fully spirit) in Man (Fully Flesh). The man who was fully flesh could do nothing without the God (fully spirit). More so, He was here to teach us how to live as his children so he lived the perfect life to be emulated by us. He demonstrated the need and times to pray.

After his resurrection, he no longer prayed. Jesus Christ is the God of the old testament (YHWH)


Jesus bless you.
Christianity Etc › Mary Is Not The Mother Of Jesus Christ by bingbagbo(op): 6:25am On Aug 08, 2019
Yes, Mary was never the mother of Jesus Christ of Nazareth no wonder the latter himself denied at least twice that Mary wasn't his mother.

Now the word mother has various meanings just like several other words.

It could mean one who gives birth to a child, one who nurtures a child, one who caters for a child and so on. But biologically speaking,
a mother is

A woman whose ovum was fertilized and became a fetus. This term does not apply to a woman who provided the uterus for the gestation of a fertilized ovum obtained from a donor and such was the case of Mary.

Mary merely provided her womb for the gestation of the baby Jesus.

There is no where in scripture that we are asked to pray to or worship Mary, the disciples never did such. In fact Mary herself had to be born again by the Holy Spirit in Acts chapter when the disciples camped in the upper room.

Finally, there is but one God, and one, only one mediator between God and man, the man Christ Jesus. Mary cannot be a mediator. This is a heresy and idolatry.

You can stone me for all I care, but this is the truth. Amen.

Jesus Christ is Lord of all.
Romance › Before You Do Anything, Ask Yourself This First? by bingbagbo(op): 5:36pm On Aug 03, 2019
Would Jesus Christ do this?
Would he have spoken this way?
Would have acted this way?

Please, Jesus Christ is coming , the signs are ever evident please don't be deceived. The word says in the last days there will be perilous times. You and I testify to the ever perilous times. Yes, salvation is by grace but the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom. please awash yourself now.

Please read: Isaiah 1:18

God bless you.
Christianity Etc › Very Funny, What Jws Believe About Jesus Christ by bingbagbo(op): 1:13pm On Aug 02, 2019
Who is Jesus Christ?

This question is one of the most critical religious and philosophical ones ever asked. It automatically leads to other equally crucial issues. Just who was this Man, Jesus, historically? What did He accomplish and why? And most important, what does His life mean to an individual?

The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society—also known as the Jehovah's Witnesses or the Watchtower Society—is one religious organization that claims definite answers to all questions about Jesus Christ. This unusual religious movement, founded in 1884 by Charles Taze Russell (1852-1916), and now led by a small committee of supposedly inspired grin biblical interpreters claims to have the final word about the person and work of Jesus, as well as all other theological issues. Millions of Jehovah's Witnesses believe confidently that the Watchtower Society's positions indisputably are correct and any opinions to the contrary are wrong.

The more significant issue for Jehovah's Witnesses and those outside that organization is how one's relationship to Christ is affected by Watchtower views.


JESUS' PREHUMAN EXISTENCE

The Watchtower Society teaches that Jesus Christ was the first created being of Jehovah God . Jehovah God created Jesus as a divine-like spirit at some point in ancient, pre-creation time. "This means that he was created before all the other spirit sons of God, and that he is the only one who was directly created by God" (You Can Live Forever in Paradise on Earth [Live] [Brooklyn: Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York, 1982], p. 58). This doctrine contradicts the creation story in Genesis 1 and several other verse where God says he created all things.

In His preexistence, Jesus was known as "the Word" (John 1:3,10,14) because He was God's spokesman , cheesy according to the Watchtower Society.

He is also identified by Jehovah's Witnesses with Michael the archangel. "Reasonably, then, the archangel Michael is Jesus Christ. So the evidence indicates that the Son of God (Jesus) was known as Michael before he came to earth" cheesy(Reasoning from the Scriptures [Reasoning] [Brooklyn: Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York, 1985], p. 218).

The Watchtower teaches that through the agency of the prehuman Christ, Jehovah created all other things in the universe. "He is also God's 'only-begotten' Son in that he is the only one directly created by Jehovah God; all other things came into existence through him as God's Chief Agent" (The Truth that Leads to Eternal Life [Truth] [Brooklyn: Watchtower Bible and Tract society of New York, 1968], p. 47).

This Agent, however, is not to be confused as being a Co-creator with God. "The Son's share in the creative works, however, did not make him a Co-creator with the Father. Rather than a Co-creator, then, the Son was the Agent or instrumentality through whom Jehovah, the Creator worked" (Aid to Bible Understanding, [Aid] [Brooklyn: Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York, 1971, p. 918).


Christians maintain there is no scriptural evidence to equate Michael the archangel with the prehuman Christ. The Watchtower Society's assertion that they are the same person is based on their incorrect assumptions about Christ's creation and misinterpretations of Daniel 10 and 12, Jude 9, and 1 Thessalonians 4:16, none of which identify Michael as Christ. Also, Christians contend that Christ was not merely a created being, but eternally preexistent as God the Father. He was indeed the Creator, the Father and the Spirit, of all things (see John 1:1-14; Phil. 2:5-11; Col. 1:15-20; Rev. 3:14)

Jesus' Divinity

The Watchtower Society denies the deity and eternal preexistence of Jesus Christ. This contrasts sharply with historic Christian beliefs that Jesus was God.

The Watchtower Society's position is similar to the fourth century Arian heresy, universally rejected by Christian churches at the Council of Nicea in A.D. 325. The Watchtower Society has made a number of interpretative errors and translation changes to conform Scripture to their presuppositions. For example, the Watchtower Society's Bible, The New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures (NWT), translates John 1:1: "In [the] beginning the Word was, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god."
The Watchtower Society asserts that since the Greek language has no indefinite articles (a or an), the article can be used where needed in translating; thus they insert "a" before god to emphasize the Word's (Christ's) inferiority to God. This biased rendering cannot be justified grammatically and has been rejected by every reputable Greek scholar.


The Watchtower Society also errs in its interpretation of Colossians 1:15-20. They interpret the word "firstborn" in verse 15 to mean "first-created." However, the firstborn (prototokos) principle in Hebrew culture refers to privilege and superiority, not to priority in time.

Also, the Watchtower Society has
presumptuously added to its translation of verses 16-20 by parenthetically inserting "other" in several places where no word appears in the Greek text. This unwarranted addition is made so the text will conform to the Watchtower Society's theological position on Christ.
"Because by means of him all [other] things were created in the heavens and upon the earth, the things visible and the things invisible, no matter whether they are thrones or lordships or governments or authorities. All [other] things have been created through him and for him. Also, he is before all [other] things and by means of him all [other] things were made to exist" (Col. 1:16-17, NWT).

Hahahaha, can't stop laughing. This is serious intellectual dishonesty.

Another example is the Watchtower Society's interpretation of Revelation 3:14 (NASB), "The Amen, the faithful and true Witness, the Beginning of the creation of God." The NWT renders the clause, "the beginning of the creation by God," which the Watchtower Society says is proof that Jesus was the first created being. This interpretation errs at two points. First, the word rendered "beginning" is the Greek arche, which can also be translated as "source" (New English Bible); "ruler" (New International Version), or "origin" (Good News Bible), thus confirming the orthodox view of Christ's divinity.
As famed Greek scholar A.T. Robertson commented on this phrase: "Not the first of creatures as the Arians held but the originating source of creation" (Archibald Thomas Robinson, Word Pictures in the New Testament, Grand Rapids: Baker Book House, 1933, p. 321).


The other problem with the Watchtower Society's interpretation of this verse concerns their translation of the clause tou Theou as "by God." The genitive grammatical usage requires "of God," which further suggests that Christ is the prime source or origin of God's creation, not its beginning in time. Other Scriptures also are translated incorrectly or interpreted to fit the Jehovah's Witness' theology. John 8:58 (NASB), where Jesus says, "Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was born, I am," is rendered in the NWT as "Before Abraham came into existence, I have been." John 14:28 (NASB), in which Jesus states, "The Father is greater than I," is interpreted in the NWT to prove Jesus' inferiority. Christian interpreters contend that the verse refers to the voluntary, temporary subordination of Jesus during His earthly life, not to His divine nature. Titus 2:13 is inaccurately translated in the NWT as "while we wait for the happy hope and glorious manifestation of the great God and of (the) Savior of us, Christ Jesus." The verse is rendered correctly by the New American Standard Bible as "looking for . . . our great God and Savior, Christ Jesus." The Watchtower Society approaches its biblical translation and interpretation with a clear anti-trinitarian bias. The Jehovah's Witnesses are intent on denying the full divinity of Jesus Christ. This denial presents a radical deviation from historic Christian theology and thus places the Watchtower Society outside orthodox Christianity, establishing it as a cult.

Jesus' Birth
The Watchtower Society teaches that Michael the archangel disappeared from heaven and was conceived miraculously by (the Virgin) Mary.

What madness

"Since actual conception took place, it appears that Jehovah God caused an ovum or egg cell in Mary's womb to become fertile, accomplishing this by the transferal of the life of his firstborn Son from the spirit realm to the earth" (Aid, p. 920).

"Marvelously, Jehovah transferred the life-force and the personality pattern of his first-born heavenly Son to the womb of Mary. God's own active force, his holy spirit, safeguarded the development of the child in Mary's womb so that what was born was a perfect human" (Reasoning, p. 255).

Christians concur with the Watchtower Society's belief in the miraculous, virgin birth (conception) of Jesus Christ. However, in addition to the unscriptural notions of Jesus' preexistence as Michael, a major disagreement by Christians relates to the Watchtower Society's depersonalization of the Holy Spirit. The Watchtower Society also contends that they have determined the exact dates for Jesus' birth, baptism, and death. "Jesus was evidently born in the month of Ethanium (September-October) of the year 2 B.C.E. (Before the Common Era), was baptized about the same time of the year in 29 C.E. (Common Era), and died about 3 p.m. on Friday, the fourteenth day of the spring month of Nisan (March- April), 33 C.E." (Aid, p. 920).
Most Bible scholars dispute the above
chronology for many reasons and agree that Jesus' birth date cannot be determined precisely. For instance, most scholars disagree with the date of 2 B.C. based on archaeological evidence that indicates King Herod I, who attempted to kill the infant Jesus, died in 4 B.C.

Jesus' Life and Death
The Watchtower Society teaches that after His birth Jesus became a perfect man who came to earth to bear witness to the truth of Jehovah God and to defeat Satan. Jesus received His messiahship at age 30, on the day of His baptism. "By pouring out his holy spirit on Jesus, Jehovah was anointing him or appointing him to be the King of his coming kingdom. Being thus anointed with the spirit, Jesus became the 'Messiah,' or the 'Christ,' which words in the Hebrew and Greek languages mean, 'Anointed.' Therefore, he became, in fact, Jesus Christ, or Jesus the Anointed" (Live, p. 60).

The Watchtower Society says that, since Adam was also a perfect man who sinned, only a perfect sacrifice of another perfect man could bring salvation. "By his disobedience the perfect man Adam lost perfect life on a paradise earth for himself and all his children. Jesus Christ gave his own perfect life to buy back what Adam lost. Yes, Jesus 'gave himself a corresponding ransom for all'" (Live, p. 62).

Thus, the Watchtower Society teaches that Jesus' ransom death at age 33 balanced the scales of justice between Adam's sin and God's perfect requirements. "Even now Jesus' ransom sacrifice can benefit us. How? By exercising faith in it we can enjoy a clean standing before God and come under his loving and tender care. But we can freely seek forgiveness from God on the basis of the ransom, with confidence that he will hear us" (Live, p. 63).

The Watchtower Society teaches that Jesus was crucified on a "torture stake" instead of a cross (Matt. 27:32, NWT). The Watchtower Society specifically dates Jesus' death: "On Nisan 14 of the year 33 C.E. Jesus' enemies put him to death on a torture stake" (Truth, p. 51).

In general, Christians agree with the Watchtower Society on details of the life of Christ. However, the notion that Jesus became the Messiah at His baptism runs counter to biblical teaching. Jesus was hailed as the Messiah at His birth and even before (see Isa. 9:6; Matt. 1:16-18; 2:4; Luke 2:11,26).


Christians agree that Jesus did die as a sacrifice for man's sin, as He was perfect and sinless. Nonetheless, Christians maintain that linguistic and historical evidence supports the traditional view that Jesus died on a Roman cross.

Jesus' Resurrection

Jehovah's Witnesses deny the physical resurrection of Jesus from the dead. This is another radical departure from historic Christian teaching. The Watchtower Society maintains that the Lord's resurrection was purely spiritual and only appeared as physical.


"Jehovah God did not leave his Son dead in the grave, but raised him to life on the third day. He was not given human life again, because that would have meant that he was taking back the ransom price. But he was 'made alive in the spirit' (1 Pet. 3:18, NWT). During a period of forty days after his resurrection he appeared visibly to his disciples a number of times, in materialized bodies, to prove that he really had been raised from the dead" (Truth, p. 52).


Christians affirm the physical bodily resurrection of Jesus Christ. Jesus Himself prophesied His physical resurrection. "Jesus answered and said to them, 'Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.' The Jews therefore said, 'It took forty-six years to build this temple, and will You raise it up in three days?'" (John 2:19-20, NASB).
Jesus clearly indicated the physical aspect of His resurrection when He appeared to His disciples. "And He said to them, 'Why are you troubled, and why do doubts arise in your hearts? See My hands and My feet, that it is I Myself; touch Me and see, for a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see that I have'" (Luke 24:38-39, NASB).


The physical nature of Jesus' appearances is further substantiated by His serving and sharing a meal with the two disciples in Emmaus (see Luke 24:13-35), His conversation with Thomas (see John 20:26-29), His appearance to more than 500 people (see 1 Cor. 15:1-cool, and His visible ascension to heaven (see Acts 1:9-11).


Jesus' Second Coming
The Watchtower Society teaches that following His ascension, Jesus, once again as Michael the archangel, returned to heaven and sat down at Jehovah's right hand to await the end of the seven "times of the Gentiles" as recorded in Daniel 4. The "times of the Gentiles" supposedly began in 607 B.C. when the Babylonians overthrew King Zedekiah of Judah (Note: Bible scholars place the above date at 587-586 B.C.). Jesus would begin His rule at the end of this period, figured by the Watchtower Society as 2,520 years (based on the "seven times" of Dan. 4:16,23).

"What was to happen at the end of these appointed times of the nations (Gentiles)? Jehovah was to give the power to rule to the One 'who has the legal right!' This One is Jesus Christ" (Live, p. 140). "This means that Jesus Christ began to rule as King of God's heavenly government in 1914" (Live, p. 141).

Hahahahahaha

The above statement would surprise most non-Jehovah's Witnesses. If Jesus returned to rule in 1914, then where is He? The Watchtower Society answers that Jesus' rule is in heaven and that He will never appear physically on earth again.


So you see JWs are antichrists?

At the present time, Satan is in control of this world and its institutions—especially the Christian churches. However, in the near future, the world as we know it will be destroyed by Christ from heaven and the millennium, or 1,000-year judgment day, will begin. When will this take place? The Watchtower Society formerly claimed that it will take place in "this generation" (Matt. 24:14,34). "Which generation did Jesus mean? He meant the generation of people who were living in 1914. Those persons yet remaining of that generation are now very old. However, some of them will still be alive to see the end of this wicked system" (Live, p. 154). In recent years they have modified this view to include people born later in the 20th century.

Hahahaha

The Watchtower Society says that during the 1,000- year judgment day, most people will be resurrected and judged by Christ and others of the "anointed class" of Jehovah's Witnesses. "We have certainly seen that when the dead come forth from the grave, they are not judged by their past deeds. Rather, they are judged on the basis of what they do during Judgment Day (the millennium)" (Live, p. 180). At the close of judgment day, those not deemed worthy will be cast into the "lake of fire," along with Satan and his demons, and annihilated from existence. The world being purified and those Jehovah judges as righteous will live in paradise on earth, and Jesus (Michael) will then turn His kingdom back over to Jehovah.


Perhaps no theological issue has fostered as much interest, debate, and disagreement among Christians as the "last things." However, the assurance of Christ's second coming commonly is held by nearly all evangelical Christians. All affirm that Jesus will return physically to earth to judge humankind and establish God's kingdom (see Matt. 16:24-27; Mark 13; Luke 21:5-36).

Christians reject the Watchtower Society's dating of 1914 as spurious. In fact, Jesus specifically warned that no one knows the time of His coming (see Matt. 24:4-7,36; Mark 13:32; Acts 1:7). Nonetheless, believers are admonished to be alert, ready, and watching at any time for the Lord's return (see Matt. 24:14, 25:13; 1 Thess. 5:1-11).


Christians contend that Jesus will judge all humankind. Those found righteous (saved Christians) will inherit eternal life in heaven and the lost will suffer eternal punishment (see Matt. 18:8-9, 25:41-46; Mark 9:47-48; 2 Thess. 1:9; Rev. 20-22). No second chance or probationary period will be given. As Hebrews states: "And inasmuch as it is appointed for men to die once and after this comes judgment" (Heb. 9:27, NASB).


Conclusion
The Watchtower Society's concept of who Jesus Christ is and what He has done is opposed to the historic, biblical, and Christian position.
Jesus Christ is the Lord God who came to earth as a Man, lived a sinless life, died on the cross for our sins, and was resurrected bodily from the dead (1 Cor. 13:1-cool. He ascended into heaven and will return to earth to judge all people and angels and to establish the eternal kingdom of God. Christians know that by God's grace, through faith in Christ, they are assured a place in His kingdom (1 John 5:13). Jehovah's Witnesses also can have that assurance. They first must renounce the unbiblical teaching of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society. Then they must repent of their sin (Acts 3:19), place their faith in Jesus alone for salvation (Eph. 2:8-9), and surrender to Him as their Lord (Rom. 10:9-10). As Jesus said, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father, but through Me" (John 14:6, NASB).


JW is anti Christ.

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