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Amd as he has rightly on what basis is the video showing a few ladies (about 5 or so) symptomatic of the nigerian female running into millions

If we follow what we see on this land, you lot are powered and will not take rubbish from nobody

We don't know the assumptions and thus cant categorically claim the stats are false

As I said earlier 30 percent is the global average for paternity fraud and that, is pretty high

ileobatojo: Stop shifting the goal post. If he can do this, if he can do that... As it stands right now, this lab doesn't represent a true random sample of the population therefore it cannot be extrapolated to the entire population of Nigeria.

yuzedo: [size=18pt]SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/size]

OMG! I just c.um in my shorts!

take it easy brah,.this is for construction workers or are u now a kpon kpon carrier in banana island

I have died...

Anyhow I know ileoba can defend himself or herself

Wow! This rock can be implanted in your palm for maximum damage

Its almost here....

May the best team win

Mario is a huge loss though

Now will sit back and wait for gree-die, teaxco1, acidosis, i. and the king bbfever da mogul


Lets see you spin this one

Interesting..Now i really wish this lady had paid her creditors... if this young child sees all this in the futire how will he feel about his mum

ileobatojo: Where does it say the data was global in what you quoted? The guy said he FEELS the rate in the WESTERN world is 15% though it is hard to prove and you feel this is global?

no issue..

Parentage Testing Program Unit - 1999 study by the American Association of Blood Banks that found that in 30 percent of 280,000 blood tests performed to determine paternity, the man tested was not the biological father.

ileobatojo: No it cannot.

For the simple reasons mentioned in my previous post.

Thats why its statistics
If he removes repeat persons and can show his customers represent the average demographics of married couples and their economic status... he has a point... the assumptions are the main thing

Yes people are poor in naija but if man needs to prove his son is his., hin go find that dough///

Actually if the findings of the lab can be stored and looked at over a period say 2 to 5 years, that hypothesis can be representative or extrapolated to the population

Depends on the methodology and once assumptions are stated out

ferhyntorlah: Men, ignorance isn't a good thing; it kills faster than any other disease known.

I told my dad about this post and he told me of an incident that happened to three men who were driven by a driver in a car coming from Benin to Lagos in the early 2000s.

He said they had the AC on as they were driving(long distance). When the driver got to Ore, he wanted to answer the call of nature and also inform the rest if they were interested. By then it was too late because the men were also foaming in their mouth.

He said he won't advised anyone to use AC when travelling long distance. If at all you want to use, be awake and active. If any passenger wants to sleep, let the AC be put off.

Carbon monoxide is an odourless and poisonous gas, which is inhaled when the AC is on. It prevents oxygen from being circulated around the body and once that happen, life is lost!

So my peeps, if you wanna travel, please don't use the AC. If at all you want to use, stay awake!

sorry oooo/// but what is the correlation between the AC and Carbon monoxide
Are you aware the air stream used to cool the car space comes from the atmosphere?

starts badly.. but the beat sounds catchy and sth that will grow on you

nice to see WC rapping in pidgin.. sounds a bit like Oliver beat if u hear closely

the chick under the bridge.... wow

ileobatojo: I'm talking of the Nigerian stats please. What's my concern with australia who by the way their stats say the rate is about 10-13% of paternity fraud. So how exactly do your facts help Coogar's 50% cause?

Interesting stats of the AABB

Parentage Testing Program Unit - 1999 study by the American Association of Blood Banks that found that in 30 percent of 280,000 blood tests performed to determine paternity, the man tested was not the biological father.

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Jeanette Papp of the University of California at Los Angeles, California, U.S.A. feels that 15 per cent is rate of paternity fraud for the Western world, even if there is no hard evidence. "It's hard to do studies on these things for ethical reasons," says Dr. Papp, director of genotyping and sequencing in UCLA's department of human genetics. "I mean, how do you tell people what you're really looking for?"

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Research show that 40% of women and 60% of men in a committed relationship will be unfaithful at some point.

They have statistics regarding paternity fraud. Note that the statistics were concerning men that suspected that they are not the father [size=28pt] and therefore sought testing.[/size]

The data was global and maybe 50 pc was exaggerated.. it still looks bad though

http://www.australianpaternityfraud.org/statistics.htm

Sadly you are right (bolded)

StateOfMind: It goes to show women never win. If a lady pursues her career to a level where she would be extremely comfortable and decides to settle down at 30-32, these same men would ask her where and what she was up to when her mates were getting married. The inferior ones would see her as too rich and automatically label her as a non-wifey material.

Majority of the women around me are working their fingers to the bone to keep their families going. My colleagues, aunties, mum and her friends, neighbours, sisters, infact 95% of the women I know are working(both blue and white collar jobs)! In an average nigeria home of today, we all know JUST one income is not enough. I don't know why some men here are assuming all abused wives are not working and dependent on their husbands. You'd be surprised a good percentage of these working class babes still get abused and cheated on. Some earn more than their husbands and are still treated like shi.tt.

I have an aunt who earns two times more than her husband, and yet she gets physically abused by this beast she calls husband. He throws her out as he wishes at night and they both built the house together. There was a time the man packed out of the house for 4months to his mistress's house. This woman took full responsibility of her two kids and the household for that period, (like she has been doing actually). Man came back later and they went back to how they were. I was really mad at her and had to ask my mum what they were doing about her case. As far as I'm concerned, she can survive very well without this man but families, church and society are still keeping her in that hell called marriage.

In my own opinion, It all boils down to the kind of man you marry. A kind hearted and God fearing man would not raise a finger on you whether you are dependent on him or not. If you settle for a beast, earn all the income in this world, you'd still be battered if you can not stand up for yourself and do what is proper without caring about what the society would say.

I won't preach independence alone cos I know independent women still get abused, I'd preach growing some b.allz and self esteem so as to know when to say 'I HAVE HAD ENOUGH'

By the way, I have not watched this video, but I don't think the number of women that spoke here are up to 30. Why do these men think their responses actually represent the general mentality of modern day nigerian women?

dayokanu: There are some genuine reasons a woman/partner can stay at home, health, education, planning a family etc. But making a career out of staying at home (Which involves no income) is what I frown at.

1. What happens when the income bringing partner falls sick or die? Answer, God would never allow that
2. What happens when the income making partner lose the job? Answer: God would never allow that to happen
3. What happens when the income making partner gets bored of the marriage and wants out? Answer: God would never allow that to happen.

Being a stay at home, No income generating wife would be something I would never want my sisters, Wife or daughter to be

dem boku for port harcourt.....

dayokanu: My view is probably skewed because I have always stayed around women who work as much as if not more than the men. From the "Alarobo" women who get on trucks to buy from interior villages and sell in the market, to the School teachers, to the Nurses, Accountants, etc The Multinational I worked at in Nigeria was almost 55-60% women.

My mom just retired last year at close to 60 and next thing she has already started another one. And everyday she always wake up to go and work for the past 36yrs of her life. She had kids who went to University, Had a husband and a family too

So I get pissed when I see young able bodied women who think nature has given them the anatomy to get fed for life. And in truth its the no income generating ones that have outrageous tastes. A woman who knows how hard it is to make $10 wont open her mouth to tell you "How much is $700 that you cant dash me".

If boys and girls are equally educated then they should both work to contribute to family and society except in those afore mentioned cases



Wake up, Husband goes to work and kids go to school by 8am, Wash 4-5 plates, Picks up phone gist with friend or visit other non working friends, Turns on TV to watch Nollywood, Eat, Sleep again. wake up by 4pm pick up kids back from school, Warm the food she prepared 2 days ago. And complain how hard it is to sit at home

U get am....

ileobatojo: So where are you getting your 50 percent number from when the article you provided says 30%.

Also, where is the study itself? This article says a survey was the source. What kind of survey was it? What was the sample size? Were the randomly selected or did they go to the most promiscous, poverty stricken areas to sample from there? Was it representative of the population of the entire country? Was it peer reviewed? Abeg bring this survey itself let us peruse it so we can determine the credibility.

http://www.australianpaternityfraud.org/statistics.htm

dont like this but hey just providing facts...

estilo: Pls how did u get d 53.4%? I understand up to 53.35%

round up to 1 decimal place

coogar: cotton101, absent and irresponsible fathers? the same fathers kicked out from the houses they bought and sanctioned with a 30-mile radius restraining order? it seems you dunno how animalistic some nigerian women behave here in the UK after realising how divorce laws favour them significantly!

titi's case was just stüpudity or daftness - there were no kids in the marriage so i don't know why she remained in the relationship till she got maimed!

i think she had a infant daughter...

tatiana009: Unfortunately most of the time the kids are already messed up by the time they become adults. I have an Aunty whose husband beats her and now she's noticed that her little boy who is just 5yrs old kicks and punches his sisters! What kind of husband will he become? and obviously the girls are already affected as even though they are much older than him they stay and let him hit them like they see Mummy do with Daddy. They already believe that it's a man's privilege to beat a woman!

There are people who dont beat their wives and yet the elder beats the junior
this could be pure sibling rivalry ...
pushing on your line of thinking, in this feminine dominated world, the girl xhildren will be beating their elder brodas maybe this is good news for the feminists



Betty this is for you..

[size=18pt]My wife was either drunk or hypnotised – Arowolo[/size]

MAY 23, 2013 BY ENIOLA AKINKUOTU 6 COMMENTS
Akolade Arowolo, a 32-year-old man, who is standing trial for allegedly killing his banker wife, Titilayo (Omozoje) Arowolo, has told an Ikeja High Court that his wife exhibited strange behaviour on the day she died.
He said she could have been hypnotised, mentally unstable or drunk.
Akolade alleged that his wife’s stepmother, Toun Oyakhire, was not a good person and had pitted his wife against him.
Akolade, while being led in evidence by his lawyer, Olanrewaju Ajanaku, said he and his wife had sex on the day she died. He said they had agreed to stay indoors throughout the day since it was his birthday, adding that he, however, went out to withdraw some money which they would use in celebrating his birthday.

He said on returning home, an argument ensued, causing his wife to slap him.
He said, “On June 24, 2011, after we had sex, we made some commitments one of which included that she (Titilayo) would no longer be running off to her parents’ home whenever we fought and we decided that we would do everything possible to make the marriage work. We decided that we would stay indoors till evening.
“I went out around 10am to withdraw money from the bank and I bought some items. On the way, I picked up my mechanic because he needed to repair my car. On getting home, about an hour later, the security guard and the mechanic helped me to take the items to my apartment and he (mechanic) drove the car away.
“On getting home, I realised my wife was completely dressed and she said she was going out. As I pleaded with her, she started shouting, saying that Aunty Toun (Stepmother) and Aunty Labisi told her to leave the house. She was very angry and she slapped me.”
Akolade said he ran to the house of his next door neighbour and told his neighbour’s mother, Mrs. Hannah Alaka, to intervene.

He said Mrs. Alaka called Titilayo and spoke to her by the corridor leading to the staircase and convinced her not to go out.
Akolade said he and his wife returned into their apartment and he proceeded to fuel the generator when he received a phone call from his sister-in-law, Folake Oyakhire.
He said he and Folake shared the same birthday.
Akolade said, “After speaking with Folake, she asked to speak with her sister so I started looking for my wife all over the place. I called out her name but she did not answer. On getting to the entrance to our room, I slipped and almost fell. As I attempted to hand over the phone to my wife, she stabbed me in the arm with a kitchen knife.
“She stabbed me again this time on the left side of my chest. I tried to wrest the knife from her and she started screaming, ‘I will kill you and kill myself.’ In the struggle, she stabbed me in the navel.
“Later. I asked my wife why she did this and she started apologising. I then decided to get help for her but I could not find the key to the main door to the house.”

Akolade said he scattered the wardrobe, where his wife said she had kept the keys but still could not find them.
He said, “After attempting to force open the door of the house with no success, I decided to jump from the balcony and I met the security guard and mechanic there. I jumped into my car and drove towards the Aswani Police Division.
“On my way to the station, I met some traffic policemen and I explained to them that my wife needed help. They were telling me to take care of myself first since I was covered in blood. While I was still explaining to them, an oncoming vehicle knocked me over and I fell unconscious.
“When I regained consciousness, I found myself in a strange environment and was told that it was a Good Samaritan that had rescued me. I later made a telephone call to my mother. It was the person who picked up the phone that told me that my wife was dead.”

While being cross-examined by the Director of Public Prosecutions, Mrs. Olabisi Ogungbesan, Akolade told the court that his wife was alive the last time he saw her.
He said he sustained more injuries than her and even debunked the report of the pathologist, Prof. John Obafunwa, who had asserted in his testimony that Titilayo was stabbed 76 times, saying it was not possible for a human being to inflict such wounds on oneself.
Ogungbesan, who debunked Akolade’s testimony, said, “Akolade, why did you not inform the mechanic, neighbours or even your security guard that your wife was bleeding instead of going to the police station? Why did you not use your mobile phone to call for help?
“If you did not stab your wife to death; then who did? You said your wife was mentally unstable, are you a certified psychiatrist? Since it has been established that you were the last person to see her alive I put it to you that you stabbed your wife to death.”

Akolade answered that his wife had taken alcohol that morning.
He said, “If you had seen her that day, she was even more powerful than me. She overpowered me. I was not thinking clearly that day. That was why I ran straight to the police station without telling neighbours. It was possible that she stabbed herself to death but it was not 76 times.”
Justice Lateefa Okunnu, adjourned the matter till September 17, 2013, for the final address of counsel.

bettymafy: I would have loved to believe that but there has been history of abuse for the two years of their marriage. The wife kept complaining to both her family and the man's but was told to endure till her untimely death. So no, I don't believe it.

of course we know its crap but you should read the court reports

he called his SIL demonic
His father is standing up as a character witness
He said on the said day (his birthday sef or so), he made love to his wife, then she took alcohol and threatend to kil him and herself

I will find the article sef...

coogar: if i was hit and cheated on by my wife? good luck to her on that. i would concentrate on building better men/women out of my children. which is worse? a battered mrs adebolajo or an abuse-free mother of a terrorist?

Not just a terrorist bro.. a jihadic head decapitating monster of a son

lady gogo: how do you know she has $0 dollars in her bank account?. she made her own money as a spice girl before she met david beckham. Posh could leave her marriage if she wanted to and not become destitute by downsizing. i also believe she makes some money from her clothing and perfume line. Her's bothers on low self esteem because she could still get quite a chunk from her divorce settlement.

SO women that are staying in their marriages are in it for the kids and greater good as opposed to the ones that left? [b]would you stay in your marriage if you were hit or cheated on by your wife for the 'greater good'?. *side eye*

Likewise.... How do you know she has low self esteem?

I would stay for my kids as long as is possible .. when they are grown up, i could leave

50calibre: That's not my point. I'm saying being a feminist is fine provided you can be it in all aspects. Feminism is female power/ strength. All of you talking nonsense here still expect preferential treatment as a woman right? Real feminist dont, they want to be treated equally as men in every sense.

true... all that BS about women leaving the stricken cruise ship with the children before men is also crap
we are equal..

coogar: they did not choose to be battered and leech off their husbands. they chose to be in the marriage for their children, it's called selflessness - you need to learn it. you know, putting other factors before our own selfish needs for the greater good......

if michael adebolajo's mother didn't walk away from her husband, maybe the son wouldn't have turned into a terrorist. she thought she made the right decision some 10 years ago, we can see the effects now! so, women should keep leaving their husbands at every pitiful excuse - the end shall justify the means!

sadly you are right...

coogar: what political post was posh gunning for when she decided to stay in marriage with a cheating david beckham? prime minister?

a lip sticked smiley for our feminazis

https://www.bitoffun.com/images/laughing-smiley6.png

bettymafy: Oh puhlease! There is little/no corelation between abuse and financial responsibility! You all make it seem like most women who are abused are not financially independent. Most women in nigeria work their butts off to contribute a significant quota to the finance of the home. Some are even the sole providers of their homes and still get abused.

An abusive man won't stop even if the woman is the main provider of the home. I've even come to realise that men who are not financially well off are usually the ones abusing their wives prolly cos of frustration from the fact that they are not "man enough".

Financial independence on the woman's part should be for other reasons like; helping out in the home, contributing for projects and saving for rainy days. Not necessarily to avoid abuse.

The story of that dead banker comes in handy here. She was said to be the sole provider of her home and yet was beaten to death by her husband.

Nevertheless, I agree that it is less difficult for a financially empowered woman to leave an abusive man than it is for unempowered one but disagree that financial independence on the woman's part can make the man to not abuse her.

first bolded you are right betty...
second bolded, do you believe that mr arowolo claimed his wife was under the influence of alcohol and stabbed him and later stabbed herself to death

[quote author=Nuzo']Unfortunately, I've come to notice that MOST female love Fetish acts, masochism, B.DS.M, Chauvanism or however one may describe it.

Its even evident in lesbian relationships. So, its not just a man versus woman kind of thing.

The only difference is that some like it on a high tempo while others like it tonned down.

S.exual gratification, false sense of feeling wanted, insecurities, traumatic childhood experience, material things, culture and religion may have conditioned them this way.

I, However have my reservations only if its on se.xual gratifications. [/quote]how come i never jam these freaky deaky girls

dayokanu: Your expenses fall within your income is the summary of that post

Not earn 70k and spend 300k a month. How can you support yourself alone without depending on another person?

If you earn 100k and already have a lifestyle of 300k Someone else has to support that, And that might be a reason for clinging on to abuse in marriage instead of leaving

you killed it!

dayokanu: Can the womans income take care of all her needs and wants without depending on the man?

A girl earning 70k a month is also earning an income but is that enough for her Dubai trips, London Vacation, Brazilian hair, BB Z10, Lekki phase one neighbourhood and tear rubber Hyundai Elantra she drives?

this is so true.. even working class dey hustle nowadays...

dayokanu: How many of these abused women would stay married for Mrs tag to a broke man

Typically this is how the conversation goes

Woman: My Husband beats me and cheats on me

Friend:Sorry I feel for you, Does he provide for the family?

Woman: Yes he has been carrying the burden of my finances ever since, shopping in Dubai and London vacation, even just bought me a SUV

Friend: My sister You better stay there, You are lucky o, "Good men" like that are scarce, You just have to endure, All men cheat and beat their wives, You are even lucky he hasnt brought the other women home

Assume the first response was "he doesnt provide anything for the House , I am even the one fending for myself"

I am sure the friends response would have been "So what are you waiting for or why havent you left him"

classic!!

MMotimo: How many families living in Naija have only one income?

How many of the abused women have no income?

a lot of the oil company workers spouses do not work or earn small pay relative to their husbands,.. they dont dare bring that feminist crap...

dayokanu: Nail on head.

When it comes to Benefits they remember we are equal

When it comes to responsibility You hear I am a lady

If it comes to getting salary We are equal

If it comes to lift this heavy stuff, It becomes Women are not designed for hardwork

You cant be looking for a man who would be responsible for a large part of your finances and still demand equality. He who pays the piper..
Another topic for another thread

LMAO...

dayokanu: Nail on the Head

The moment Nigeria women stop worshipping money and try to make a living on their own while being able to live within their means this would stop

Most women endure abuse because of laziness and lack of finance.

How many household where the woman is the main earner would she be getting beat up like drum set

correct.. but some men are still abusive even though the woman is the big kahuna....

Flygeriansteve: The shows that the gender equality advocates and feminism crusaders have so much work cut out for them. The ubiquitous internet blowhards who come on here are just an infinitesimal proportion of the largely ignorant and naive women who see cheating and domestic violence as perfectly normal!

As much as Im not an enthusiast of the fiery extremist type feminism, I find this responses shocking...

ileobatojo: Applause! You don't know how much I appreciate you making this distinction. The people who just spit out the blanket term feminism and crticise it without being specific just come across as ignorant and uncouth.

this is true . in addition they are so caught up in their idealism that they do not take cognisance of the little progress being made
Things are getting better.. it will take time