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Lebron is fired up! Is Tatum on nairaland? warris happening

So we need Lebron to beat the celtics? which kin life be dis

ayo to Melo, thank you sir!

benji93:
Not too long ago it was absurd to even mention Giannis in the same breath as AD. Hmm. Interesting.

bro, you will make a good politician. for real

Roland17:
Abia! Look at who is talking.. You don add lying to the hot temper and unforgiving spirit I see it took you a couple of days to gather yourself and get out of your emotions to respond to that one wen enter you

If I start to dey expose you now, you go vess come say no one go force you to think differently, you no Dey fear anybody, like say dem ask you and all other yen yen! Carry your wahala dey go jare! Since season start, I don talk about the Houston Rockets more than you sef wen say u be fan.

#RIP24

I didnt see your initial response, hence the late reply. what is there to talk about on rockets biko? But we welcome you to the Rockets fold - we bleed red out here

The Lakers starting 5 has red flags all over it. Usually a team filled with veterans do not play up and down the way these Lakers do. We know its not coaching, because they have 2 of the best defensive minds in the league on staff. One weakness that this team has is that 2 of the supposed top 4 players are not known for defense. I havent paid as much attention to Melo, but Westbrook's D has to be the biggest 419 of the season. The guy even knows how to fake it, but the ease with which fellow guards blow by this guy makes me know he isnt all in, no matter what he says.

Is it too late to trade Westbrook? I feel like a mid season trade is needed to shake things up

Roland17:
Stop being overtly emotional when issues about the Celtics and Harden come up because they seem to trigger a lot inside you and e no good for your health.

lol. take your own advice. I dont take attacks against rockets or Lebron or other players I like personal. Its a game, entertainment provided by millionaires for us fans. End of story.
But anytime you hear something about the celtics na so u go dey para like policeman You are the one that needs to take it easy. No matter how deep your green runs, you just a fan like d rest of us

steady986:
And P.S, Giannis is not a big man.

Haaaaaaa!

[quote author=A40 post=107725178]Of course he was on one leg after Giannis spent the first 3 Quarters bussing his ass. Where was the one leg AD in these clips. Alainitiju oniro. Shior

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guys should pity steady. this assault is too much

steady986:
People go just go read box score then come here begin cap. Lol. AD that was virtually playing on one leg throughout the game. Has AD ever had a game where he had zero free throws? Because they had no option than to throw an undersized THT on Giannis, una come here dey shout 47. Best big man in the league when healthy. Read am again .

last time we talked on this AD saga, you claimed he was the best big man in the league, but he was not an alpha. Those are your words o, steady. I no wan talk then. But applying your statement to this game, when he plays another big man like Giannis, he will get dominated, because he is not an alpha. So, how can he still be the best big man in the league if there are other big men that he cant perform against?

Now, you say he was playing on one leg tonight. Riddle me this: do you think AD would have continued in the playoffs if he had the type of injury Giannis had in the playoffs last year? Ordinary stomach ache your best big man dey siddon for house dey watch game dey chip potato chips

donlittle25:
https://twitter.com/nigerianscamsss/status/1461153888799805440?s=21

somebody look at this nigga.

I dey tell u! I have peeped this dude. the guy is a cancer. he is just very smooth about it. he knows how to say the right words, but deep down, its all about him.

Khanben:
For all your talk, no GM will trade Luka for Tatum, for Trae young some will, but for Luka, you will get laughed out of the room

no leave him. let him be arguing nonsense . Luka is a franchise cornerstone. All Tatum has right now is signs of promise. Commissioner go block am sef

etidy:
In retrospect if Durant doesn't get a ring with the Nets , he will deeply regret leaving the warriors.

Imagine leaving a reliable, welcoming, unselfish MVP level player like Steph curry for a crackhead who is now threatening to waste one of the remaining peak years of your career all because of his personal stubbornness.
Curry is the exact opposite of Kyrie character wise. i suppose KD likes Chaos

He had to leave. Skilled guys like Durant like to play with a chip on their shoulder. Any sign of disrespect, no matter how little will set them off, imagined or not. Warriors really didnt do anything evil to him, it;s just how Durant's mind works. Ultimately he wants to win the 'ship with 2 different teams and prove he wasnt carried to a ring, a la Lebron gaining a different level of respect after winning with the Heat then Cavs.

Perhaps he should have chosen some other team though, as in any team without Kyrie, westbrick, or other diva type players. Say what you will about Durant's off court issues, the guy is the ultimate professional when it comes to the game. Durant will bring it every night, no excuses. Sad to see him saddled with issues not of his own making.

A40:
Nobody has far exceeded Jayson Tatum for starters

Luka has. You cannot trade Luka for Tatum. 2 Tatums even That is the definition of far exceeded.

Others have exceeded Tatum, but not by much - Trae Young for example.

Ja Morant approaching Tatum. If this season is like last season, with Tatum underperforming and Morant making noise in the playoffs, well...

Ill skip the bigs since they usually dont follow the same trajectory as guards, forwards

BlueMann:
My beloved Bulls reigniting my interest in BBall...

Credit to Lonzo Ball for the work he's put into improving his 3-pt shooting since his rookie days.

Also, these two are unstoppable right now

Definitely a feel good story for this year. Im also happy Derozan is getting the recognition he deserves. Had he gone to the Lakers, none of this woulda happened. Fortune favors the brave!

A40:
Out of all these guys you mentioned only two people you can even mention with Tatum and that's Luka and Trae. Which one is far exceeded??

far exceeded or approaching is what I said

Khanben:
If you remember a game against Spurs I think that TMac went crazy in the closing seconds for like 15pts. Tmac said JVG chewed him out for taking the shots that actually won a game they were already losing .
JVG na case, but truth be told if Yao and Tmac could just have stayed healthy, that team was hot

PS: Yes it was skip to my lou, really sad he never fully brought his street style to the nba. What could have been

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuwSJUkYqwQ

Khanben:
Ohh, is it Ty lue or Alston then, cause one of those rockets team with Tmac had a dependable PG.

I think it was Rafer Alston (skip to my lou). Man we had some good drama. That was the only streetballer to make it into the NBA. And that was about the time And1 basketball was making waves in the USA. Skip was royalty!

We would win a game with Tmac and Yao going off, and JVG would still look sad . Guy just liked looking morose. Fun times

Roland17:
All these guys are approaching or have far exceeded...and you come up with this?

First I show you a list of nearly 17 players drafted alongside Tatum in 2017 and ask you to come up with those that have matched Tatum's achievement and you come up with 2 out of 17..you mention Bam and Collins....According to you, Bam and Collins are the players in the 2017 draft that have graduated while you are waiting for Tatum to graduate.. Man, just stop already. Oh boy!

Outside of Luka, none of those 3 has exceeded worth more far exceeded what Tatum has achieved thus far. We are not talking about projections here, we talking about now. Ja has a legitimate argument, I am one of his biggest fans. Trae? Ayton? This one off me! Ayton had one great season and because he CAN, magic word being can give you double double means he has far exceeded Tatum? Oh boy! What of Wiseman/ Cam Reddish and Lamelo Ball wen you mention? They must have matched Tatum I guess?

dude calm down. I said exceeded or approaching. anyhow Im signing off this topic. I said what I said. Deal with it. you are not going to make me stop analysing teams just because. I aint scared of the celtics, your leprechaun or you

Khanben:
Tatum is suffering from one of the main disadvantages of getting drafted high by a team that has a good enough core that winning happened instantly. So his expected progression tends to be skewed. he is doing his bit IMHO, the team right now is not just well built

I agree 100%. That team has been badly constructed for a while. When they had IT, his heroics covered up a lot of deficiencies. But Ainge had years to tweak that roster but really didnt. Hayward and Horford were good moves, but they never really pursued it. I dont follow Celtics as well as Roland17 does, but I always get the feeling they think positionless basketball is the way to go. They went even farther than Morey at the rockets.

O, and btw, on your earlier post, Steve Francis never played with TMac. I believe he went to Orlando in the trade for TMac or something like that. Houston fan base would have imploded had that ever happened. We barely survived Steve vs Yao battles

Roland17:
I worry that you throw words carelessly. All these guys are approaching or have far exceeded Tatum, really? Abeg mention the ones that have far exceeded Tatum.. This is why I am confident when I say your hate for the Celtics makes you exaggerate your thoughts when the topic is bothered on the Celtics.

Luka has. As has Trae Young. And Ja Morant. Deandre even can get you consistent doubles now.

Roland17:
No be everything about the Celtics you go debate with this level of distaste.

Tatum was drafted in 2017 as the 3rd overall pick, show me another player who was drafted in the same year, especially in the 1st round that has achieved more than what Tatum has achieved thus far in the NBA! Show me please.. Here are some notable mentions; M. Fultz/ L. Ball/ Bam Adebayo/Josh Jackson/ D'Andre Fox/ J. Isaac/ D. Mitchell/ J. Collins/ J. Allen/ M. Monk/ Z. Collins/ D. Smith Jr/ F. Ntilikina/ K. Kuzma/ O.G Anunoby/ J. Hart/ D. White.

Developing a young player comes with it's growing pain. Why is he getting all this hate when everyone in his year has struggled just as much or not achieved as much as he has? Of course, coming from you, it tastes better because it is a Celtic player. Tatum has an Olympic Gold Medal (No scrub performance), 2 All Star appearances, All NBA Selection, Never missed the playoffs, 2 conference finals appearances, earned his Rookie Max contract and is in his 4th year.

I love Tatum, love his energy. Me I can separate a player from the team. I may not like the celtics, but I like Tatum. However, like Khanben said, we have seen flashes of brilliance, but those flashes are inconsistent. You say he was just drafted in 2017. Well, so was Bam Adebayo and John Collins.
Guess who was drafted in 2018? Trae Young, Luka Doncic, DeAndre Ayton.
2019? Ja Morant, Cam Reddish.
2020? LaMelo Ball, James Wiseman

All these guys are approaching or have far exceeded Tatum. Once you wait too long to bloom, time will pass you by. If he does not graduate to the next level this year, he risks becoming a really good player, but not a superstar.At least he is doing much better than Zion who was drafted a year later.

Criticism is not hate.

Khanben:
Ainge for all his so called savvy, left a weird team which Steven's did not fix this offseason. I still don't understand why they were not going after lonzo in FA, this team badly needs a traditional PG. Someone who can create simple looks for Tatum and brown. They just take too much tough shots IMHO

It will not get any better, with Brad Stevens now president. I am still amazed that a terrible coach can fail his way into a role twice as important. I guess he got some networking skills

The roster needs to be blown up, but with Ainge, err, Stevens at the helm, I dont see many players wanting to be in Boston. That reputation is a given now. And we have been waiting for Tatum to "graduate" like the last 4 years now, same result every year. Like I said last year, Celtcis are going to be eastern conference cellar dwellers for most of this decade. And Im fine with it

etidy:
Hmm I think we may be going back to the days of needing a dominant front court player to be competitive against the warriors.

As for the Lakers some of this blame has to go to Vogel, he needs to reel in Westbrook somehow.
It's also in games like this that will make never to consider AD has the best big man in the league.
You're the most talented player on the court and you have arguably a better team but you can't marshal your team to be competitive.

I dont think people fully appreciate the disaster that westbrook is. There is no hope of the team gelling to compete because of how he breaks plays. he can say all the good things about how he is adapting, but deep down, this guy is selfish. He knows that moment when he is breaks the flow of the offense to do his own thing. He knows exactly when he does it. He just doesnt care. This is what his advocates dont understand. Its not that he cant be coached. Its a conscious decision this guy is making to play a certain way regardless. The most useless 20pts ever

A40:
Where is birdman? Are the Lakers still proving you correct?? You people really tried very hard to convince us they were a bunch of bums without LeNomad

I'm not even happy they are winning make no mistake about it but sometimes my objectivity overrides everything else

a40!! a-foh-ti ooo, iwo da! where are you? where is dis one. a40 come here! you see yourself? you see yourself?

A40:
Three of their 5 losses have come from blowing huge leads. This is a newly formed team dealing with injuries amongst their younger players and LeNomad as well. Where is the consistency and synergy going to come from after just 10 games? Who has been convincing thus far besides Golden State. Be realistic!

Really? How are the other teams with crazy roster drama earning 6 straight wins? Are they not in the same league?

WC Top Tier:
1. Warriors - 6 straight wins
2. Clippers - 6 straight wins
3. Suns - 6 straight wins

WC Upcoming Tier:
4. Mavericks - Amazing what they have done with Porz missing many games
5. Lakers - Even without Lebron, they are losing to teams they should be blowing out

A40:
Lol. That's not the argument. The argument is the Lakers roster is more than enough to compete without LeNomad

Any team can beat any team on any given night. Give me a 3-5 game win streak without LeKing versus the bottom feeders in the league, to at least show consistency. Im not impressed with big names, I want to see synergy. I want to see Lakers beat teams convincingly, not hero ball to save the situation. Otherwise all na paparazzi, big names with no bite.

Android17:
I am pretty sure even by this time last season, Curry's numbers were not as good as they turned out to be. Curry has achieved a lot this season without breaking a sweat. He is even beginning to look like a vocal leader. This season, he has not been required to go super nuclear to win games as compared to the prior season and that will prolong his career. Haters beware.

Im glad you now see that being a good vocal leader is a plus. That trying to lead from the back last year was wack. This year, everybody knows get serious or stay on the bench

A40:
Where is birdman? Are the Lakers still proving you correct?? You people really tried very hard to convince us they were a bunch of bums without LeNomad

I'm not even happy they are winning make no mistake about it but sometimes my objectivity overrides everything else

1 game? cmon now bro. cmon. any game where russ is the leading scorer is a fluke. just let it go.

DeeMain:
No sir, he wasn't. He did worse. He went hard from behind and made his neck snap. He gave him a neck injury, a whiplash. He could have killed him.

Like I said before I understand why Jokic did what he did but I will not justify it. Jokic went too far, just like the retaliating kid.

Second, I will not go on National TV and glorify and celebrate Jokic's disproportionate violence like Shaq and Chuck did. It is condemnable and is not what the NBA represents.

Its not Jokics fault the guy cant take a football bump. If he knew he was that soft, how shoulda never went looking for trouble in the first place! Soft like charmin, see as e dey moan for ground

This f**l fouled a big man at half court! What kind of nonsense is that. They should add a public flogging on top that fine

DeeMain:
A big kid gets bulied by a classmate and he comes to class the next day on a shooting spree and kills 10. Intention, retaliation. Shaq and Chuck on National TV: "they got it coming. Don't mess with a big kid," and "if you hit a big kid, if he retaliates, it's all fair because the force is going to be different," literally glorifying the act, extolling violence, gloating even.

I say hogwash!

What happened to the virtue of sportsmanship? What happened to emotional intelligence? Are we not supposed to be trumpeting these?

Does sports analysts and broadcasters not have a code of conduct?

And kids watch these programs. I just wonder what we are teaching them these days.

And we are wondering why society is so decadent.

But these are not kids. This is a grown man's game. When you hit Jokic the way Morris did, you are sending a message. Jokic showed emotional intelligence imo. He could have clocked Morris with a punch to the temple. Or body slammed him. Otherwise you are seen as soft, and folks will test you in the playoffs where you cant afford to miss any games.

Speaking of kids, same thing. Yes, you should report things to the teacher instead of taking the law into your own hands. De-escalate if you can. But if they corner you and are about to inflict damage on you, game on. Do what you need to to get out of it. Then be the frst to report the whole story to the authorities anyways. Dont just lie down there and eat a beating trying to be emotionally intelligent. There are no rewards for coming home with a broken head. Bullies bully you until you clap back. Such is life.

steady986:
Lol. Motivated to do what, play basketball? Una dey overplay this thing walahi. When did this notion of lack of motivation even begin? Last season? This season? Abi since he's been in the league?

I wasnt following him hard before Lakers. But between this and last season, there have been multiple times this question has arisen. Serious question, do you think that AD is better than Giannis skill wise. If you agree with me that AD is the more skilled of the 2, why is it not showing on this team like Giannis is affecting the Bucks?