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begwong: but u 've got tym to post a reply!
must u read all?
just lukin @ d topic;u could as well just say yes or b amongst d passersby!

No mind am! Any wonder the standard of education in Nigeria is declining with his types that can only read Twitter and BBM messages. I'm sure he's never read a book or magazine in his entire life outside of prescribed textbooks or prosperity Pentecostal stuff.

As in a second wife to an already married man? Hell, no!

Long, long before the kidnapping scourge spread to Igboland from Niger Delta in the last 3-4 years, Yoruba people have always been reluctant to go East. As far back as 1980s, I noticed this trend. The Yoruba generally prefer the North because they feel there is less competition professionally or business-wise there. The other major reason is that many Yoruba regard northerners as malu who they can easily hoodwink; not so with the Igbo.

Ironically, the first set of indigenous lawyers and doctors practising in the East were mostly from Sierra Leone and Yorubaland until the 1930s when the first Igbo doctors, lawyers and other professionals began to emerge. By the 1950s, most of the Saro and Yoruba professionals could no longer withstand the competition and withdrew to Lagos.

dayokanu: The worst is Diamond bank

You would go to their branches in Lagos or Abeokuta and they would be filled with Igbos

I am not sure if GTB or Skye bank in Owerri is filled with Yorubas

Liar! Come to Diamond Bank Ajao Estate and Isolo branches and tell me if the people you saw there not mostly Yoruba and Edo.

Imagine calling out Diamond when GTB and Skye banks are there! GTB is absolutely the worst offender in this regard.

Moderators, shouldn't this be in the Romance section? What's the family element of this topic?

All dese small pikin for NL no get respect again. Abandoning Romance section to spam the Family section with their juvenile topics and discussions

Seun: Dear Nairalanders, I'm pleased to inform you that we've just created two new forums on Nairaland:
- The Car Talk Forum, for discussions about cars choice, maintenance, for automobile enthusiasts and owners.
- The NYSC Forum for corpers, prospective corpers, ex-corpers, and anyone who wants to discuss the NYSC.

We have also improved our Facebook support a little bit. In the past, the description shown when nairaland threads were posted on Facebook were random and usually irrelevant. We have fixed issue: correct descriptions are now shown on Facebook. Thanks!

Thanks Seun but when are we getting a Building/Construction Forum? The Properties Section is deluged with so many adverts that its impossible to follow building/construction threads.

70% of 160mn Nigerians is 112mn. Which leaves 48mn who can afford smartphones.

That 48mn market is bigger than Belgium, Sweden and Holland combined.

Bump!

No one here sells sharp sand in Lekki and environs?

Interesting.

Tinyemeka: I felt insulted when I read the part in the article where it said most people buy a BB for the reason of aspiration and creating the impression of having "arrived". Well, I'm not most people. And that is not the reason why I bought my BB and I'm sure a lot of other share the same thought.

I was tired of hearing all the noise people kept making about the superiority of Androids, iOS and other OS over BB OS. iPhones are grossly over-priced and over-hyped. I had a bad experience with Samsung and the rest all look like China phones to me and so I got a Nokia N900. The fone has been a dead weight in my pocket. I tried browsing (which is my main interest in phones) and my entire credit was wiped out in a short time. I tried downloading Operamini v11 (there's only the Beta version for the fone). Didn't work. Conflict with the phone's Maemo 5 OS. Opera 6.5 won't download and as I discovered, there is no Opera mini version for N900. Anybody with a counter opinion should pls shout it. Now I hardly browse with the fone for fear of burning my credit and I'm back to relying on my BB.

As far as I'm concerned, BB is the best phone for the majority of Nigerians. Not everyone is a phone geek, or gamer who has to constantly rely on phone cheats and tricks to get low-cost browsing. Let's call a spade a spade.

Gbam! Well said indeed!

Pls ignore all the petty insults from arrogant wannabe geeks who desperately need to 'prove' they are 'real' nerds by engaging in follow-follow hating on BB/RIM.

Serious suppliers in Lekki area only please. Delivery to Idiagbon village, opposite Fara Park.

You may also send quotations to ezeagu at gmail dot com

Thanks!

LOL, wonders shall never end

Thank God for this thread. All the fraudsters and scammers on nairaland are now rearing their heads in a vain attempt to defend their greedy and criminal ways which have boomeranged on so many innocent Nigerians. To buy air tickets online or purchase stuff on amazon.com - whossai! No thanks to these nefarious b@stards called yahoo yahoo.

I say again thank God for this thread. At least, we can identify some of the yahoo yahoo boys among us.

I really don't know what all these illiterates whining about the article being too long are doing in Politics Section. If you are suffering from short span of attention induced by too much Facebook and BB Messenger, then simply skip over long articles or posts rather than spamming the thread with your infantile complaints.

I'm wondering if this woman is some kind of masochist or punishment maniac.

She can't stand her hubby but she wants to remain with him.

She has no sexual desire for her husband. In fact, sex with him is like r.ape. Yet, she endures the r.ape "just to please him"

She actually found a man that she liked enough at least to sleep with. So what happened next? Was it a mutually agreed upon one-night stand? Did she want a relationship and possibly marriage but the guy just wanted quick sex?

I get the feeling the OP is simply afraid of being a divorcee even though her marriage died long ago. She is scared of what people will say even though she is miserable.

Or is it that she feels she is no longer in top shape physically and might not attract a new husband? So she'd rather endure a miserable marriage and regular r.ape?

coogar: unfortunately, that's the way of the world. what seems normal would
be difficult and what seems obscene would be easy. you can bet if this man
lies with a plantain/orange seller in his hood(even if it's one round of sex),
she would get pregnant with twins.

Its truly the way of the world indeed. I once saw this scenario that you describe play out before my very own eyes.

OP, I can see you refused to answer my question.

The other man you slept with - was this a one-night stand or an affair?

Why did you not leave your husband for this man?

Sagamite: And my point is, even if a UK-based person plans to return, there is still another better way to do it than to waste your money on overpriced and inferior assets.

Only those who have no option and are based in Nigeria need to buy the wrong asset. I will happily rent it from them after THEY have bought it when I decide to move to Nigeria.

The rental market might be shaky now in some of those countries, but it is still decent and far better than the prospects of a Nigerian property.

As you please.

The world is round and no human enjoys a monopoly of wisdom. There are many reasons for investing in real estate anywhere in the world.

Sagamite: It is just still not an attractive proposition.

N10m (£40k, $66K) merely for land in Amuwo Odofin?

N5m (£20K, $33K) for a waterlogged land and its raft foundation (which would be done for the prospector by Nigerian workers that can give you shoddy work)?

Hell No!

That is just not an attractive proposition when the opportunity cost is factored in.

For those figures one can easily get a wonderful £100K flat in Greece, Croatia, Turkey, Cyprus, Spain, Italy etc on mortgage and rent it out to locals or holiday makers to pay off the mortgage. Nicer assets, better guarantees, sane environs!

When I see some UK-based Nigerian guys feeling all funky because they state they have bought some asset in Nigeria, I almost feel sorry for them. They normally overpay for a poor asset just to feel like if they have achieved. Most of them have zero clue about investment, not even the ones that have accounting certifications. They just follow the crowd.

[Goes on his knees to talk to HIM] Thank you Baba God for giving me the brain that allows me to think independently and divergently so that I never become an individual that follows the crowd. You did a good job on this one o incase no one has told you. You be Shampion!

Like I said, it does not make sense for someone who plans to remain abroad permanently to spend such money on properties in Nigeria. Maybe those UK-based guys are planning to return to Nigeria.

Is the rental market in those countries still that good nowadays? I thought the economies of most of those countries were badly hit by the Euro crisis.

I just knew the spammers would soon reach here

Moderator, abeg, where una dey? Pls remove this rubbish!

davidylan: ... i will never give my daughter (when or if i get one) to a man who cannot provide me a serious plan for the future of his marriage...

That is if she even grants you the privilege...

Sagamite: There is another way you know.

- By a better and cheaper property abroad for maybe N60m, and it will still most likely appreciate.

- When you move to Nigeria, rent it out and get good income on it. Maybe over N3m a year.

- Rent in Nigeria for N1.5m a year from someone willing to pay, or stuck with having to pay, N70m for a poor asset.

- Use the arbitrage in rental income and any extra income you make in Nigeria to get a land somewhere that is reasonable in Nigeria (e.g. Epe, Ikorodu, Amuwo Odofin) and build a classy house you want cheap.

- Move out of the poor, overpriced N70M asset maximum 10 years later just when it starts to crumble and become a slum.

- You have a quality house abroad and at home, and both are a house to your taste that you have not overpaid for because you exhibited lateral thinking.

Yes, you've made some good points. Those are good options up there. But I doubt any one in Nigeria who paid hard earned money for a Dolphin property seriously imagines he can recover the investment via rent. The real benefit of buying over-priced Dolphin property is access to business finance via using the title deeds as security for bank loans. Also, banks are more willing to lend against a property in Dolphin than one in Mowe.

I have some lands in Lekki, Mowe, Ikorodu and Badagry. Some are in LASG-owned/planned new estates, others are in private estates being created/managed by corporate developers and some in areas where you purchase from the indigenous family landowners and each owner develops. From what I've seen so far, thanks to the rampant lawlessness in Nigeria, both the LASG town planning rules and/or the private estate development regulations are mostly not strictly enforced whether by private or corporate developers or the government. Even the few decent private estates in Lekki, after a while, the usual Nigerian factor creeps in - lack of infrastructure maintenance, the estate developer starts cutting corners, the property owners starting making unauthorized changes to the structures, adding new extensions, modifying the usage of the property etc. So don't get your hopes too high about living in an area comparable to a suburban division in North America. Frankly, I think the best one can hope for in Lagos is something akin to Lekki Phase 1. Unless you can afford Banana Island

IMHO Amuwo Odofin is not reasonable anymore. Its now from N10m even for waterlogged land. You can buy 3 plots in Lekki or 10 plots in Mowe or Ofada with that money!

Also, you don't have to go as far as Epe to find reasonable land in that axis. You can still get land in Ibeju-Lekki from N700k to N2m depending on location and proximity to the road etc. But its mostly waterlogged land so you're looking at another N3m for raft foundation.

Sagamite: This is the same Dolphin Estate that 15 years ago was hot like Lekki?

https://www.nairaland.com/30515/current-price-dolphin-estate-flats#753189

This is the kind of asset foreign based people should waste their money on?

For foreign based people who plan to remain abroad full time and permanently for life, no.

Dis Guy: ehn?

"...in case of the worst..."

[quote author=prince_onx]The above comment is very common especially among we igbos. I know a whole lot of guys/ppl who built mansion for rats and spiders in the village while they have nothing any where else in the world! My own cousin is one of them.[/quote]I know this is true for most of our parent's generation but is this still happening to that extent these days? I doubt. Most younger fellow from my area tend to build in Asaba or Awka these days.

Besides, most family compounds are already built up; you have to demolish existing structures most of which were built from the 1970s onwards and still in good condition in order to put a new building that you will use only 10-15 days in a year.

If the village is adjacent to a major urban area, it might prove to be a long term strategic investment.

Gentleman8888: @blacklion

Oh yea Toyota sequoia is out there too . I just kinda think most Toyota interiors are so basic and boring . Maybe is just me though

Well, your question was which is best for Nigerian roads so I voted Sequoia due to its high ground clearance. I agree about the blandness of the interiors of the Sequoias and Highlanders up to 2007-08 models; but the newer models are not bad interior wise. The interior of the Highlander from 2008 upwards is pretty good IMO. I like the interiors of the current Landcruiser range.

Iyalola19: ...if dwarf press bell for your house now, omo na u go propose...

LWKMD!!!

Toyota Sequoia

Followed by Toyota Highlander

dbisiback: That i am strong and havent commited any form of adultery hunnnnnn believe me i have once some years back...

Was this a one-night stand or an affair? Why did you not leave your husband for this man?

If you are now based in Nigeria full-time or plan to return to Nigeria permanently and you have a wife and kids, having a residential building can be a form of 'insurance' in case of the worst. Nigeria is a very insecure country. At least, your children will have a place to lay their heads without any landlord wahala while your widow struggles to put food on the table, pay school fees etc.

Strongly supported!

If/when created, the moderators of the new auto enthusiast sub-forum must be tough and brutal, no exceptions granted. All ads posted in the sub-forum must be removed immediately and the spammers blocked permanently.

Same should be done with the Properties Section. A separate sub-forum for discussing construction and property development should be created.

Because Nigeria does not have mortgage system which those who were based abroad are used to.

Many (if not most) diasporans live paycheck to paycheck. Don't be fooled by the naija credit card scammers who come home to flash stolen money.

idprincess: well he has more money than me. And he's more exposed than me.

Nne, he may indeed have more money than you; in fact, he may even be more streetwise than you (if that's what you mean by 'more exposed than me') but I very much doubt a 23 year old boy is operating on or near the same mental level of a 30 year old woman.

Don't let family/social pressure push you into a wrong move.

Do you install the equipment yourself? Or just sales only?