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Ranchhoddas:
You already used the word 'myth'. Wetin you wan hear again?

Perhaps am wrong. Perhaps science has something to clarify on this. It just seems they are right with the way they are so cocksure

oglalasioux:
Isn't it better you present the guy's 'evidence and proof' first?

Are you for real? The burden isn't one me to give proof or evidence for his claim nah. He said and he should prove. He who asserts prove.

Evening Nairalanders,

I don't know if this thread fits in here, if not the moderator should please help to put it in the right section where it can attract answers from informed people.

Before I start to ask my question based on the above topic, let me quickly let you fellow Nairalanders know that I am not a scientist neither have I ever being in a science. I am only a Law student who craves to know not only the law but what comprises of the environment it works.

I held an argument in my hostel at school today with some friends. A guy said he was once told by his uncle that human beings really disappear of the earth. I was shocked hearing this. I had thought this only happens in the Yoruba Nollywood movies. But I told this guy I wouldn't believe this until he gave me some evidence and proof to back his claim. Students around even supported him with this baseless belief. I asked all of them if they really believe and they wouldn't even let me ask finish before they shouted "it happens." I was like a fool among them, but NO, I wouldn't join their bandwagon of belief without any substantial evidence.

I hope anyone with good knowledge about this puzzle can shed it here. Either philosophical, scientific or mythological, so far it passes the test of "How" and "Why".
Thanks.
Cc;
Johnydon22
Seun
Aaronson
Valentinemary
Kingebukasblog
sonoflucifer
hahn

Muafrika2:
He was a fool.

He was also one of the founders of "the religion of reason" in partnership with his freemason partners.

We all know how socialism was just another form of usury of the masses by afew.

He becomes a fool just because he made a statement which negates your belief?

Unfortunately Johnny, people won't see reason with all the above sincere submissions.

They would rather die of their beliefs which have no modicum of reason and a pinch of evidence.

I tried making some religious explanations to some dudes in my hostel today and they were about to become hostile with me. They said I am affecting their beliefs and faith and I should be cautioned. I bled inside seeing how much humanity has suffered. Inside of me, I cursed the day the white missionary came to sell to us what we have no knowledge of, but then, I had to take a walk from them to prevent a situation where one will need a lawyer and another a doctor.

Like seriously, why would you hurt anyone because of your belief which has failed all scientific test to be considered true?
Shouldn't we respect humanity more than we respect beliefs?
#Sigh

bluaero:
You expect me to take somebody who says she is an angel that roams the heaven and earth seriously?

I recommend you do a brain examination

That doesn't change the fact that you are a tribal bigot.

bluaero:
Why do we have so many deranged yoruba women
One olunloyo somebody comes to mind

May God punish whoever plunged our economy to such a difficult level that it now produces all sorts of miscreants and deranged entities

Better a deranged women than kidnappers, drug pushers and prostitutes.

Shameless tribalist who has rejected reason!

tobeetoe:
This could affect you and your biz. Remember you a CEO. God is the all-supreme and you know this deep down. Just quit this and be good. #CeosareNeutralremember

So his biz has gagged him from being open in thoughts?

What about the lawyers?

johnydon22:
Do you honestly believe that if there is a heave and a hell, you'd be very happy in heaven knowing fully well billions are burning in a literal fire just next door, probably with a loved one among them.

Will you genuinely enjoy such a place?

will you genuinely be happy ?

I for one cannot be, i cannot even watch someone burn in real-life talk more of finding eternal bliss while billions burn... That itself will be hell for me.

Have you ever wondered the outright absurdity proposed in such greedy clamor for another life.

Eternal life, forever, an infinite life.

What can you do with such endless life, paradox of infinity shows in an infinite existence it only will be a repetitive process.

So if there is such a thing as an unending life waiting for you after here, it almost certainly is one of constant repetition.

is that the type of life people greedily chase?

sounds like the bleakest, most boring idea of existence i know. . .Heaven is for uncaring, egoistic, greedy hypocrites

I pondered on your post for hours. No human being with a modicum of conscience will live happily in heaven while billions burn in hell.

Capital to the NO!
Professors John Farrah and Anthony Dugdale have both condemned the idea of "instant justice", "self-help", revenge and went further to describe it as a symptom of an underdeveloped system. It would ultimately lead to anarchy.
Every accused or suspect reserved the right to fair hearing in Nigeria as entrenched in the section 36(6) of the Constitution of the FRN, 1999. Presumption of innocence until proved guilty also has the backing of the constitution in the section 36(5).

From the foregoing, it becomes crystal clear "jungle justice" has no place in our laws and as a matter of fact is a policy that negates the principles of natural justice, equity and good conscience.

#NoToJungleJustice!

Odunsco01:
,.....you welcome bro...... I saw thier bullshits on facebook i don't just knw what the fucking hell is wrong with the AAUSU leaders..... Lets just resume first!

Yea. Resumption first. Three weeks at home doing nothing no be beans.

Odunsco01:
.....also a student of AAUA department of comp science to be precise
bro please have you heard any info lately about d resumption issue?

Not at all bro. And the SU is not helping matter with their recent show of shame on the social media.
I'm from the Faculty of Law. Nice meeting you

...and if violence is the only language they would understand, the students should constructively invoke the spirit of Aluta and do the needful! Enough of these creche and kindergarten treatments in our universities!
Government should make a law that secures the right of students to speak when they are being oppressed. Activists all over Nigeria should speak for us! Dele Momodu should pick his pen now and write on this injustice! His pen is not meant only to write open letter to Saraki. Femi Falana should stand up and save the institution he was once a member! Keyamo should do as Gani had done!

I'm a student of AAUA and I'll support any action the students body are taking against the bureaucrats on this except violence. The rate at which these men treat students like toddlers calls for a proactive concern. Why on earth should a lecturer charged with the responsibility of impacting knowledge point straight to a student and say; " You will not graduate in this Varsity." What offence should warrant such statement from one who once attended a Varsity too?

#iStandWithNANS

Does 9ice mean Aunty Linda

finalboss:
:-endtime op nd end time letter

Do you think you earn every right to go silly?
Grow son, grow.

[b]Dear mom, I am sorry that the boat has drowned and I wasn’t able to make it to Europe. I am sorry that I won’t be able to send you back the money you had to borrow for my boat trip. Don’t be sad if they never find my corpse in this wild sea; it won’t bring me back to you, it will only bring you more debt and more funeral, burial, and transportation expenses.
I am sorry that the war has happened, and I’m sorry that I had to leave just like all the other kids who had dreams. Although my dreams weren’t too big; I only dreamt of affording a bottle of medicine for your illness, and some money to fix your teeth.
By the way, the color of my teeth right now is green because of all the algae stuck on it. I still believe they’re better looking than the teeth of our dictator though…
I am sorry that I built you an imaginary house in my dreams; a cozy wooden hut like the one in movies. A hut that is very far from barrel bombs, airplanes, and all the sectarianism we were surrounded with.
Dear brother, I am sorry that I wasn’t able to send you the $50 I promised I will send every month to buy yourself something nice before you graduate.
Dear sister, I am sorry that I wasn’t able to send you a nice smartphone with all the wi-fi and the technology that your friends at school are buying.
Dear home, I am sorry that I will never ever hang my jacket behind your door again.
Dear divers and rescue teams, I am sorry for all the trouble you have to go through to find our bodies, as I don’t know the name of the sea I’mdrowningin.
Dear United Nations and government agencies, please stay comfortable and please rest assured that I will never be a burden on you anymore.
Thanks to the sea who welcomed us without a visa… Thanks to the fish who will eat on my body without asking me for my religion, or political status…
Thanks to all the TV channels and news outlets who will share our news for a few minutes everyday to make some money off our story while it’s still hot and interesting.
Thank you all for feeling sorry for us…
I am sorry that Idrowned…

Source: http://news-kenya.com/2015/09/very-sad-letter-found-in-the-pocket-of-a-drowned-syrian/ [/b]

NeduLuiZ:
Emotionless

who f*cking breed emotion for certified thief? Olisa Metuh and his ilks I guess.

Oga Lalasticlala, come see her face o and let others see

"I did not steal Nigeria's money."
Allison Madueke

source: http://saharareporters.com/2015/11/14/photos-cancer-stricken-diezani-alison-madueke-released

Lalasticlala baba, good morning.

hadizadeezy:
Wow! incredible!

Hadiza, long time. Where've u been?

The Christian Satan is a rebel; the Yoruba Èṣú would never think of derailing from his functions. It is only the witches and sorcerers that Èṣú has no power over and this is where Ifa too says that it is only one’s Ori (head/soul) that can protect one against Dark/Evil Magic cast by witches. Èṣú has nothing to do with cursing man or turning man against God. He serves as mediator between us and the heavens. There is no record in Ifa that Èṣú rebels against Olodumare, besides, is it not demeaning the power of God that the omniscient created something It had not foreseen would rebel and cause trouble for mankind in such huge scale?
Ajayi Crowther could have translated the Bible Satan as satani. He was a boy of 12 when he was stolen from Osogun, his village in Iseyin, Oyo, and had very little knowledge, if any, of Eshu and his complicated functions. If Èṣú were the Devil, Ifa would totally have been upturned into evil and Yoruba would not be one of the most enlightened race in Africa today. We would have been submerged in the Devil’s evil.
Èṣú is not evil. But today, millions of Yoruba have seen Èṣú as the Christian devil with the influence of the translation and the Yoruba Bible. The Yoruba dictionary clearly shows that elitism crept into the translating pen of the translators as a result of their little knowledge of Yoruba spiritual beliefs, which Christianity taught them is the Devil’s belief. Let us remove prejudice and be objective. Èṣú shields man from evil and can also expose man to evil, but he is not evil. Neither is he contesting power with God.
It is the Christian God that is a white man with white beard and a golden crown… The Yoruba God (Olodumare or Olorun) has no form. It has never been described… Olodumare is an existence in the transcendence. Something no deity can contest power with. Evil is also formless, that is why the Eight Evil were placed under the authority of Èṣú to protect man, but Witches can use their craft to tap into the evil energy but unfortunately they are not subjected to Èṣú and difficult to pacify them. God allowed evil but restrained evil, and only the karma of man brings them upon him. Even if witches cast evil on a man, his Ori is his last bunker to defend him and this Ori also depends largely on the past karma he has accrued.
It is ridiculous to say God’s creation is rivalling him to take earth when there are thousands of planets within and outside our Solar System. When the Bible was written with this view of throwing devil into earth, there was little idea of the galaxy. If the bible were written today, the Genesis and Revelation would have been written differently. Lastly, Èṣú cannot take or give man soul, like the Christian Devil can. Èṣú does not need a soul or reside in any Hell. He is an important minister of God. Those who perform devil worship and the Satanists perform a lot of human sacrifice and mortification… but Yoruba do not sacrifice humans to Èṣú or require to mortify their bodies”

Source: http:// takeupanarm.word press.com/2011/ 04/14/ is-the-yoruba-es hu-same-as-the- christian-devil(as edited by Proudly Yorùbá)

Who Actually Is Èṣú ??
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“Samuel Ajayi Crowther was captured by Muslim Fulani during the Fulani/Oyo wars and he was sold with his mother and toddler brother to Portuguese slave buyers. However, the ship was intercepted by British Royal Navy and the slaves were released by taking them to Sierra Leone. This was where the Anglican Church Missionary Society took over the educating of young Ajayi.
One of his foremost achievements, apart from taking Christianity to the Niger Delta parts of modern Nigeria, Ajayi Crowther translated the English Bible into Yoruba. This can thus be said to be the first medium through which the Christian Satan/Devil/Lucifer was thus interpreted as the Yoruba Èṣú.
Ajayi Crowther was also the one who compiled in 1843 the English-Yoruba Dictionary upon which so many others have been patterned till today. The word ‘Bara’ in the dictionary reads out the meaning thus: “god of mischief, the devil, Ifa.” Here it is plain that the devil and Ifa are the same to Ajayi.
Bara is a word use in qualifying Èṣú in some of Èṣú’s oriki poems: “Bara ti o logun ika/ To so ile ana re di ahoro (Bara who does not have evil medicine but turns his in-laws home into desolation). Bara l’abelekun sunkun ki eru o ba elekun/ Bi elekun ba n sokun, Laaroye a ma sun eje (Bara is the one who weeps with those weeping and they will be frightened by the time they see Èṣú/Laaroye/Bara weeping blood). Bara ni abonimi su mi ki eru ba onimi/ Bonimi ba n su imi/ Laaroye a ma su ifun (The one defecating will be full of fright by the time he sees Èṣú defecating his intestines). That is Èṣú for you, a god that overdoes things in a frightening way… a prankster.
On the other side though, Èṣú is the link between man and heaven – to the Yoruba. He is a strong god and one who has to be pacified so that he takes his tricks elsewhere, and moreover he does not allow trouble or evil to be done to us. If the Bible version is the same as this Èṣú whom Yoruba add his name to the prefix of their children at birth e.g. Eshu-Biyi, Eshu-Tunde, Eshu-gbayi, and they even have a shrine of upside-down earthenware bowl with a hole in the bottom, to venerate this god, then does this mean the Yoruba worship the same Lucifer/Devil that rebelled against God?
It is clear that even the translated Yoruba-English dictionary in which Bara is also attached to Ifa shows that the translators have little or no knowledge about the Yoruba deities. Ifa and Èṣú are not the same. While Ifa is the mainstream religion of the Yoruba brought to earth (like Jesus or Paul brought Christianity) by Orunmila who lived in Oke Igeti in today’s Osun State, Èṣú had never lived like a man with children or wives… he is a god with functions in heaven. That is why another oriki says of him as “O san sokoto penpe/ Onibode Olorun.” (One who wears short pants and guards the way between man and the Heavens)
Let us objectively look into the function of Èṣú who is a fierce god, like Thor or Sango but not evil like Hades. Èṣú has to be constantly sacrificed to in Yoruba belief because he is the one between us and the other gods. Èṣú has the power to decree any god not to harm a mortal and can also look away if the offending mortal refuses to perform sacrifice to ward of evil. Èṣú does not cast evil, he is merely performing his duties to ensure that no man is unjustly attacked by evil.
There are eight forms of evil in Ifa philosophy, these are Death, Pestilence, Loss, Paralysis, Trouble, Curse, Bondage and Iniquity. All these eight are under the supervision of Èṣú according to God (Olodumare) who placed Èṣú in that role to monitor their activities. These eight are always trying to hinder the progress of man and this is why any sacrifice or rites performed on earth to ward evil must have Èṣú’s Fifth share since he alone has authority to tell the Eight evil to desist from harming a particular person.
These items of sacrifice are mostly edible stuff that sometimes have to be shared to the person’s neighbours so that in their merriment they pray for him as well, it is also a form of tithes receipt for the babalawo and lastly some of the items are used on the person sacrificing; There is an example in a verse of Ifa where an albino called Ondese was asked to sacrifice on a particular day against death. He was asked to use Buje (a plant which has a juice used for tattooing) for sacrifice. The priests then used the Buje to rub him all over. On the appointed day Death came to seek him, Death could not recognize that the man who has been rubbed all over with Buje is the albino he sought; so Death left and Ondese lived longer.

Dauda Adesina Ajongbolo-Joki wrote:

[b]SARAKI and AMAECHI. ... CARROT FOR ONE, STICK FOR THE OTHER.

I still can't understand the grouse of PDP against Amaechi. What sin did he commit against the party which Saraki didn't? They both acted in unison to rock the party's boat in the last general elections. So, why is Saraki being treaded like a sweet darling by PDP, while the party so loath the sight of Amaechi like a sh**t?
Saraki is facing a criminal trial before CCT and virtually all the "distinguished"senators rose in solidarity with him. They even threatened to 'kill' Nigeria, should anything happen to Saraki. The "distinguished"senators never saw anything wrong in the undistinguishedmanner their president was treated on Eid day by his own people. They are never bothered about the sight of their president as a common felon in the dock today, and at the head table in the hallow chambers tomorrow. To them, It is either Saraki or nobody else. So, 'monkey fine or e no fine, em mama must like am'. Abi?
On the other hand, the same PDP senators who have been ardent supporters of Saraki and staunchly standing by him in his travail, are the ones now calling for the head of Amaechi over allegations of financial impropriety while in office as governor. These are mere allegations that are yet to be established by investigation, let alone arraigning the man for prosecution. They all rose against him with strenuous determination. They keep speaking ill of him, even when the man had appeared before them to put up a credible defence against the allegations. They keep making an unpardonable enemy of him, even when he appeared to them as a harmless and amiable friend.
I can't just understand this double standard of PDP, in relation to the party's treatment of it's two defectors. Can anybody put me through? I taya o![/b]

Source:https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=788164917973741&id=100003407196053&refid=8&_ft_=qid.6211739861350138012%3Amf_story_key.-6281018126572155053&__tn__=%2As

Tunguy01:
Will God answer my prayer as a non-religious man ?

He always does. Think about it.

chocolateme:
Happy birthday dear, I thought u meant "coincides" all join shaa. You are a child of freedom. It is well with you.

Thanks for the well wishes.

H

K

Lizabeth25:
I wish people respect the ring though because if it's a symbol of Love, why do people still have broken homes after wearing rings of plenty thousands or millions

it's something in the heart. What a ring signifies is immaterial and flimsy. Just like a poster aforesaid, "...where I am, it is a bottle opener,keyholder etc."