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Dadaboy:
Especially because no one has a proof of such existence or not.

Dadaboy:
Look at the above ignorant mentions you made of me

I am just really angered that when someone is trying to explain something to you. Instead of reasoning and making research, you want me to tell you something that requires a broader look into. Something Wikipedia will assist you more on because it can easily link you to all the basis and foundation is what you want me to explain for you.


Do you think i read and make researches to stay in your level of intellectualism ?

Dadaboy:
When they say take your time to study and read, you prefer to play and read one useless book and think you are doing it right.

I avoid people of low IQ like plaque.
Y’all should not mention me anymore because i can see your level of intellect already

Dadaboy:
What does mind your business got to do with your public display of deception and foolishness

CanadaOrBust:
Forget this particular case. Look at the big picture. This is also your country.

WHAT CAN WE DO TO MITIGATE THE PRECEDENT SET BY THIS HORRIBLE JUDGMENT??

Dadaboy:
There is almost nothing beautiful about Religion. apart from the continuous deceptions, Prejudice, Illusions, chaos, undevelopement and foolishness it brings

Let me explain this way.

The reason you believe so much in God is because, by default, the mentality of humans has been altered to believe there a supernatural being up somewhere. (Including myself born into a Christian home till i found redemption)

If you choose to stop being the ignorant person, you would take your time (even if years) to understand the whole theory about life and how humans created God because they had no explanations or understanding how the world evolved.

[b]As a Geographer and anthropologist, i will not waste my time on religious mentions because it’s almost impossible to explain to people who have had a wrong perception and believe for a donkey years

CAPSLOCKED:
Its good to see these two brothers-in-arm getting along with each other.

Like I once said.. Christians and Muslims, you are one.
You all have to stop fighting each other. You need to embrace each other like one large congregation of gullible, directionless herd of cattle that you truly are, which neither know what they're doing or where they're going.

CanadaOrBust:
garfield1, Blindersoff, Olaolufred, Agboriotejoye

Something just occurred to me! HOW COULD WE HAVE MISSED THIS?!
Here it is:

SC just handed INEC (and by proxy any ruling party, which is who usually controls INEC) the power to rig any election with impunity. ALL THEY DO IS REFUSE TO PRODUCE THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENTS OF THE AREAS WHERE THEIR CANDIDATE RIGGED. And just like that their candidate’s fake result sheet must be accepted no matter how outrageous it is! Which means he can become the winner even if he came 10th!!

That will invariably lead to a one-party state!

Do we now see how this judgment is not just bad but quite dangerous??!!

englishmart:
Only a select few hate Trump. We real Americans love Trump. Trump is making our great America great again
Trump till Buhari leaves office.

CanadaOrBust:
Maybe u missed this:

Any unbiased person with a robust sense of fairness would have a problem with this SC ruling.

BOTTOM LINE - You don’t lightly remove a gov and hand the seat to a person that came fourth in the election. If u must do so make sure the documentary basis for your action are authenticated, collaborated, totally above board, and beyond reproach!
In this case not only do the documents (which are the ONLY basis for the judgment) look totally faulty, INEC itself swore they were inauthentic. PLUS, adding figures from them would make for quite ridiculous electoral totals!

That ought never be the basis for immediate replacement of a gov by a 4th place finisher!

THAT IS THE BOTTOM LINE.

Nice chatting with y’all!

CanadaOrBust:
Once again, an electoral body swore in court that certain documents supposedly issued by it were inauthentic. NOT ONLY THAT, the documents themselves truely looked incomplete and inauthentic. NOT ONLY THAT, figures from said documents would make for funny electoral totals.
YET, without even cursory examination of said documents and based SOLEY on them, the SC promptly sacked a sitting gov and replaced him by the man who came up with the said clearly questionable documents and who came FOURTH in said election!

And you see nothing wrong with that??

According to you the only way is for INEC to produce the originals. So from now on the only way INEC can prove they never issued a document is to produce the original. That makes sense to you bah?

englishmart:
Only a select few hate Trump. We real Americans love Trump. Trump is making our great America great again
Trump till Buhari leaves office.

hopexter:
Take this your unwanted comment to a US forum

CSTR2:
I said it before.
UK has isolated themselves. That is why they support Trump in every way.

And Trump is going to use them so hard they would cry.


[s]Trump is a great leader. Boris Johnson is not[/s].

ynotsadeek:
This is what Nigeria should be doing too. As the biggest market in the sub-sahara region, we should be negotiating better deals with the UK for ourselves, we have better leverage now as they need us more than we need them.

One can only hope our leaders have the foresight to do the right thing and seize the opportunity.

Agboriotejoye:
Yes!! Good!! That's what I want to hear. By what you have said now, it means people don't need to write waec anymore. Just register online, find your way to Oluwole and Kaboom you have an incontrovertible result.

Do you realize though that there are people in this country who actually do that and are working with those certificates. By this landmark judgments, all these fake WAEC have become new. All thanks to Tanko and APC zombies.

Agboriotejoye:
If you say INEC is complicit, I will agree with you.

But if you say mere showing 358/366 by Uzodinma is acceptable even when INEC that has the power to declare results say it is false is good enough, I say no. That a result is fake does not mean it should have a genuine as oluwole has shown us. INEC said the result is fake. Only the police and Uzodinma have the result. If you allege there is a collusion between INEC and Ihedioha, I can also allege there is a collusion between Uzodinma and the Police.
But... the result was not signed by the PU officers! The figures don't add up!! There are no other parties with figures in the result!!! No incidence form, no EC8B with INEC. Definitely, something is amiss and my gut tells me Uzodinma wrote those results himself. INEC seeing it rejected it since it was not signed by their PU officers.

INEC should have ordered a rerun no doubt. But their failure to do that does not automatically authenticate the results that only Uzodinma and the police have. Just as INEC can't rob IUzodinma to pay Ihedioha, the court can't rob Ihedioha to pay Uzodinma!!

Agboriotejoye:
Na wa o Did you go to school at all? An assumption that elections held by the court does not imply that it held indeed. Where is it written that INEC admitted that elections held . You need to go back to school

INEC rejecting the results is already an implication that elections did not hold there or results were doctored dummy!! And you've been accusing people of being empty heads

Agboriotejoye:
See eehn, the mere fact INEC rejected those results means a re-run should be ordered in those PUs since INEC who are supposed to have the results claim not to have it and are saying those tendered by one of the contestants are false.
What SC is indirectly accusing INEC of doing is colluding with PDP to rig which means INEC should be sanctioned. The problem we have in our legal system is that there is really no accountability for anything.
Just imagine going to court and claiming an oluwole WAEC certificate is genuine. Imagine WAEC comes and says No it's fake. Then the court rules that since WAEC can't produce the genuine one, then oluwole remains genuine. The fact remains that only INEC through its PU officers are empowered to authenticate results just like WAEC.
Allowing anyone else to procure and brandish results without authentication from INEC is opening the gate for fraud to become the norm in our system. The two best options the SC could have done was to call the PU officers to court to authenticate the results in defiance of INEC's position, or to order a rerun.

Any other thing is simply an invitation to anarchy.

Olaolufred:
They are those who made the white insults the black race.
Go read, digest it, then come back to make an informed comments.

Alas, they won't.

Agboriotejoye:
Kindly show were INEC admitted that elections held in the PUs

Agboriotejoye:
Are you saying it's virtually impossible for results to be falsified as long as elections held?

INEC rejected the 388 results because they suspected them to be fraudulent since their PU officers' signatures as well as dat of other parties were missing on them. Uzodinma produced 358, police produced 366 but somehow conjured a total of 216k votes for the 388. SC accepted it. Who looks like an idiot in the above scenario?

Agboriotejoye:
I don't get you. Who mentioned vote count here? Are you saying SC are dummies who only look at what you push to them and not circumstances surrounding it? I've asked you. With what SC has done, don't you think an Oluwole certificate can now be admitted as genuine in court as long as WAEC can't tender anything to the contrary when we all know that oluwole most times don't have genuine copies?

I'm talking about the numbers not adding up you're talking about vote count. Na wa o.

Agboriotejoye:
Read page 14 and 22. Only APC's agents signed the EC8B forms presented by Uzodinma. Even the PU officers did not sign them. That is the reason why INEC rejected them. But the SC said you don't need to call PU officers to authenticate result dat don't have their signatures and are only 366 instead of 388. You self reason am na. Though it may be hard being a.... y'know

Agboriotejoye:
It's obvious you didn't read what you pasted. The supreme court did not subpoena anybody. That was done at the trial court. The supreme court only held that
1. You don't need testimony of PU officers to prove that elections held
2. PPP1-PPP366 can be admitted since the burden of proving them false is on INEC and Ihedioha not on Uzodinma/APC who tendered them
3. Results tendered by police are admissible as evidence since they are at the PUs
4. You don't need to certify duplicate copies of the original

The DCP tendered PPP1-P366 while Uzodinma was only able to tender only 358 copies. Mind you Ihedioha also tendered forms EC8 series too. Supreme court is saying that he did not disprove the ones tendered by Uzodinma/Police.

You are also playing the same dumb game by the supreme court. One of the methods of satisfying elections is by the figures adding up. If the figures are discountenanced, how then are you able to expose cases of overvoting, not to talk of the fact that ballot box stuffing simply becomes fashionable. So, if the numbers are not the business of the SC, how did they know that adding 213k votes to Uzodinma will be sufficient to make him governor. Also, why did they ask INEC to check if the numbers of Matawalle were sufficient to make him governor in ths Zamfara matter and just declare him outright?
You should have read what you pasted and made sure you understood before jumping in to argue.

walexbiz:
Supreme Court is the one to answer for it since it took over the power of the INEC, of the Supreme Court had done due diligence in it's course of it's duty it would have stuck with the adjudication of the tribunal and appeal court but it chose to differ with them, therefore, the Supreme Court and the Nigerian Police force have a moral obligation to explain to Nigerians were the new figures came from since the figure didn't emanate from INEC

Agboriotejoye:
Don't mind him. A result that only APC and the police have is genuine to the blindman. Just imagine the supreme court!! How can you say you need to call PU officers to prove there was no voting and violence or rigging but you don't need to call them to prove that results are genuine. Unbelievable!!

espn:
Death is inevitable until science proves otherwise....

Agboriotejoye:
Did you not read what you pasted? the documents were listed as PPP1-PPP3666 or are you just poor with numbers like our supreme court judges?

Let me tell you. The supreme court just opened a floodgate by turning itself to a results authentication body. Going forward, what anyone would need to do to win elections in Nigeria would be to get polling unit officers to write results for them and tender same in conjunction with our very corrupt police and tadaa, they are declared winners irrespective of any other thing including whether the numbers add up or not.

This is same as saying an oluwole certificate is genuine as long as WAEC cannot produce a "genuine" to the contrary while we know that most oluwole results don't have the genuine. Why didn't kemi go to court self about her NYSC matter Oh I forgot Tanko was not yet CJN then!! Someone should inform her she has a case now

Agboriotejoye:
This supreme court justices need to go back to primary school. How can 366 results be used to admit a figure of 310,225 from 388 polling units?

That alone should be enough to cancel the election cause even the appellant couldn't produce results for the whole 388 PUs.
It's also obvious that the presiding officers did not sign those results which is why the trial and appeal courts rejected them. Only for the supreme court to accept them based on the fact that they are duplicates. Which kind madness be dat?