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livingchrist:Its obvious I have been talking with a kid. Here is dictionary definition of fornication. https://www.dictionary.com/browse/fornication fornication [ fawr-ni-key-shuhn ]SHOW IPA See synonyms for fornication on Thesaurus.com noun voluntary sexual intercourse between two unmarried persons or two persons not married to each other. Fornication is another word or synonym for Adultery. Exodus 20:14 Thou shalt not commit adultery. |
livingchrist:That's a lie Jesus never said to love God is only to love people. He separated the 2 commands. Loving God and ones neighbour Showing you cannot substitute one for the other. Mark 12:29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: 12:30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. 12:31 And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these. Atheists and freethinkers are some of the greatest philanthropist. Even Idol worshippers also help people through their work or through charity, does it mean all this people please God? |
livingchrist:Why are they unsaved? they have the law of faith, They believe in the righteousness of Jesus which has been imputed upon them, so what right do you have to call them unsaved? Afterall you said all we need to be saved is faith. |
livingchrist:You are now pretending you do not understand me. I slept with 3 beautiful sexy ladies yesterday, and I know I have faith so am righteous. Is it true or not that am righteous? |
livingchrist:You have be saying all we need is faith, but the irony is that faith must always lead to obidence to God's law. If Adam and Eve had faith in God, and that his commandment to them was true and for their own benefit, they would have obeyed God's command not to eat from the forbidden tree. Faith does not lead to lawlessness rather it leads to obidence. Romans 2:13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified. 2:14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves: 2:15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another ![]() Here Paul is saying when we have the Law of God written in our hearts it produces fruits, with our conscience bearing witness. |
livingchrist:Mr faith. Apostles James you are deceiving yourself. James 1:22 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves. |
livingchrist:You claim all we need is faith, but you lie, becos we will be judged by the 10commandments also called the law of liberty, hence we are advised to keep them. Romans 2:11 For there is no respect of persons with God. 2:12 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law; James 2:12 So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty. If there is no law or we are no longer expected to obey it, why are we then going to be judged by it? |
livingchrist:We are to obey and keep the 10commandments so says, Apostles James and Paul. James 2:11 For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law. 2:12 So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty. Paul. Romans 2:13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified. Imagine none of them mentioned faith, Paul even said to be justified by God we should be doers and not just hearers of the law. |
livingchrist:Apostles James also told us to obey and do the 10commandments which he calls the law of liberty. James 1:22 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves. 1:23 For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass: 1:24 For he beholdeth himself, and goeth his way, and straightway forgetteth what manner of man he was. James 1:25 But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed. And the law of liberty is no doubt the 10commandments. Here is the evidence. James 2:11 For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law. 2:12 So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty. Am sure i have given enough evidence to expose your Naviety. |
livingchrist:Apostles james says to love is to fufill the Royal law. James 2:8 If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well: So what is the Royal law? James 2:8 If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well: 2:11 For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law. James 1:25 But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed. It's obvious the Royal law spoken by James as fulfillment of Love is the 10commandments. |
livingchrist:Clown. Of course Jesus and Paul said Love is the keeping of the 10commandments. Something I have proved over and over. Romans 13:8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law. 13:9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 13:10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law. James 2:8 If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well: Galatians 5:14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. Here is Jesus saying the law is the 10commandments. Matthew 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 22:38 This is the first and great commandment. 22:39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 22:40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets. Either you are blind or you don't have sense to comprehend that Love means to keep the 10commandments with all this evidence I have given. |
livingchrist:Matthew 5:16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven. Really. Murderers, prostitutes, gays,drunkards,occultists all have faith in Jesus they all pray and gave alms. Matthew 16:27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works. Does it mean Jesus will reward people according to their works not faith? |
livingchrist:Jonah 3:10 And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not. Why did the people of Nineveh turn from their evil ways, does it mean their faith alone could not save them? |
livingchrist:Keep deceiving Yourself. James 2:17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. 2:18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. 2:20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? 2:21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? 2:24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only. Please explain th above verses |
livingchrist:You are really funny. Am sure you have not noticed this. John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments. John 14:21 “Whoever has my commandments and keeps them, he it is who loves me. And he who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I will love him and manifest myself to him.” The commandments cannot be love in the literal sense as you are saying it. If not Jesus will be saying in, John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my Love. The commandments are evidence of ones love for God, so answer for evidence for ones love for God cannot be love. |
livingchrist:Ok. I have faith that I am righteous, Although I just finished hitting 2 sexy ladies. After all Jesus had paid the price, all I need to do is believe, have law of faith!!!!!!! |
livingchrist:How do you know they are sensual? How do you know I don't love my sex partner? If I don't love her will I sleep with her? Especially someone like me that is selective in women. Matthew25:34 you quoted does not prove love. Most Athiests are philanthropists, most occult men and ritualists are givers. Sex workers are very good givers to God's work and charity. So all this people will make Heaven? |
livingchrist:That's a lie. Faith in Jesus without works will take you to Hell. Is like one saying , I believe I will pass an exam without reading. |
livingchrist:You only gave answer for neighbour, even though it was a wrong answer. What about God, how do you show your love to GOD or seek his good and welfare as you said? |
livingchrist:See political answer. If I sleep with my girlfriend becos she likes to sleep with men, is that not an evidence that I love her since it is for her good and welfare? I mean she was Hot and needed to meet a man and I offered her my service, am I wrong since, am doing what you claim Jesus said I should do love my neighbour, I mean I deserve an award and a crown. Sorry for the explicit language. |
livingchrist:Let me rephrase the question. What are the evidence that we love God and our neighbour? Example. I love my girlfriend,family e.t.c there are things that I do to please her as well as my family , and there are things I don't do inorder not to offend her or my family. |
livingchrist:You did not answer my questions, you only used another verses to try to fool me. I ask what are the commandments of God we are asked to obey in Rev2:7. Don't tell me love, becos even Satanist and the wicked all love. The adulterer loves his partner, A killer loves his family and so on. |
livingchrist:Really? |
livingchrist:I have decided not to answer or explain anything to you again. You should do the explanation now. So which commandments is Jesus referring to in this verse? Revelation 2:7 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God. Revelation 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. I thought it was just faith alone we need? |
livingchrist:Let me school you a little. Fruit means a product or result of something or a seed planted. Spirit in the Bible for the context it was used means ones Thoughts, Will, passions, desires and wants. When Paul says fruits of the spirit he means that our thoughts,will, passions ,desires,wants should be product of Godly things. How do we know what things are Godly or acceptable to God if not by the 10commandments. Romans 7:7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet. You see you cannot run away from God's 10commandments weather you claim fruits of the spirit or fruits of the flesh or mango, whatever you claim God's 10commandments are paramount. |
livingchrist:The whole duty of man is to obey the commandments of God not fruit of the spirit. Ecclesiastes 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man. Its obvious you don't know the meaning of fruit or spirit. |
livingchrist:I laugh at you, you shot yourself on the foot. Galatians 5:22-23 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. It don't say the 10commandments is no longer valid rather it says there is no law AGAINST this qualities. Of course one who keeps the 10commandments will develop all the qualities you mentioned in Galatians 5:22-23. So the 10commandments cannot be against this qualities rather it helps one develop them. Try and comprehend before you write. |
[quote author=livingchrist post=101912693]Did you see that just one word fulfill the whole law? That is love, and guess what love is just one dimension of the fruit of the spirit. Galatians 5:22-23 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. So someone who walks in the spirit has already surpassed the law. When I told you this initially you taught I was against the law or supporting lawlessness, no I was not. The new testament came with the law of the spirit of life which set those who are in Christ free from the law of sin and death something the thing commanment cannot do. [/quote Keep deceiving yourself. You pick the one you want and throw out the ones that show you your sinfulness. My Happiness is that God cannot be fooled. Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. 7:24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: |
livingchrist:That's a lie, God wrote the ten commandments with his fingers not Moses neither did the one written by Moses was put inside the Ark. Exodus 34:1 And the LORD said unto Moses, Hew thee two tables of stone like unto the first: and I WILL write upon these tables the words that were in the FIRST tables, which thou brakest. 34:28 And he was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights; he did neither eat bread, nor drink water. And he wrote upon the tables the words of the covenant, the ten commandments. 34:29 And it came to pass, when Moses came down from mount Sinai with the two tables of testimony in Moses' hand, when he came down from the mount, that Moses wist not that the skin of his face shone while he talked with him. This is the evidence that it was God himself who wrote the 10commandments the second time himself. Deuteronomy 9:10 And the LORD delivered unto me two tables of stone written with the finger of God; and on them was written according to all the words, which the LORD spake with you in the mount out of the midst of the fire in the day of the assembly. It's obvious that Moses wrote some of the laws pertaining to sacrifice and Judical laws of Israel, but the facts also shows that it was God who wrote the 10commandments as Moses confirmed in Deuteronomy. When you claim anything abeg put Bible verses to prove your point just like I do. |
livingchrist:You should be asking yourself that. That's what you claim by saying that the 10commandments no longer exist becos one verse says a certain law no longer exists, therefore you claim it is the entire law. See how you are twisting the Bible. Words of Convenant are different from Convenant. The 10commandments are the words that was read or given to the Children of Isreal to which they agreed and accepted which brought them into a convenant with God , this was sealed with the blood of bulls and rams. When the Convenant was broken by the Israelites becos they could not do God's commandments. God introduced a new convenant which still contains the law or 10commandments and was sealed by the blood of Jesus, but with promise of the law been written in our hearts and the power of Christ to enable us obey and do the commandments. |
livingchrist:Becos of the Children of Israel, since one can get away with sin by bringing a sacrificial offering their was no conscious effort by them to obey and meditate on the law. Mind you the same law is written in our hearts by God in the New convenant. Hebrews 10:1 For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect. 10:2 For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins. 10:3 But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year. 10:4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins. 10:5 Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me: 10:6 In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure. Secondly the convenant was defiled by the Israelites. Nehemiah 13:29 Remember them, O my God, because they have defiled the priesthood, and the covenant of the priesthood, and of the Levites. |
livingchrist:Keeping the 10 commandments is the same or a proof of one loving God. So said Jesus. You can see that Jesus answered this 3 different persons with the same answer but in different way. Meaning the 10commandments is loving God and ones neighbour. 1st person. Matthew 19:16-26 King James Version 16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? 17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. 18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, 19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 2nd person. Luke 10:25 And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? 10:26 He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou? 10:27 And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself. 10:28 And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live. 3rd person. Matthew 22:35 Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him, and saying, 22:36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law? 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 22:38 This is the first and great commandment. 22:39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 22:40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets. |
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