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livingchrist:
why are you dodging this simple question, is there any law that belongs to moses?

I did not dodge your question, like I said before Gid gave all the laws but each had their function and time frame.

Only the 10 commandments did God write with his fingers showing their eternal nature.

My question did the law of priesthood apply to all the Israelites?

livingchrist:
paul said the ten commandment is a ministry of death, so what is the argument for?

2 Corinthians 3:7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:

Do you even think or reason what you argue?

How can a law that is Just, Holy and good been done away with or against us?

God cannot contradict himself or liar

Romans 7:12

“Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.”

If the 10commandments are said to be just,Holy and good which are the exact nature of God.


Than logic or sense is supposed to tell you that any other reference to a law that does not have this qualities must be another law.

Becos A law that is Holy,just,good cannot at the same time be death,against us and bad.

livingchrist:
paul said the ten commandment is a ministry of death, so what is the argument for?

2 Corinthians 3:7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:

That's not the interpretation of that verse.
Becos it contradict God's word.
Click and read.


If you read this articles you would find that it was referring to the law of moses engraved on stones by Joshua as been instructed by Moses and not the 10commandments.

There are Bible verses as evidence.

ALL the laws that had been written by Moses into the “Book of the Law” were later engraved by Joshua on massive stones (Joshua 8:30-32, 34), pursuant to the word of Moses (Deuteronomy 27:2-3,

Secondly it is the ministration that is done away with not the law.

https://www.the-ten-commandments.org/2-Corinthians_3-7.html

https://www.eternalgod.org/does-2-corinthians-33-18-invalidate-the-ten-commandments-what-are-the-tablets-of-stone-and-what-is-the-ministry-of-death-written-and-engraved-on-stones-what-is-the-context-of-moses-glorio/

ProfAmaben:
America is 900 times richer than the Netherlands and Nigeria combined. Their president can use spacecrafts if he so wishes.

Na wah fir you, you dey Learn work?

California alone has an Economy almost equivalent to that of the entire African continent .

Frontail:
... Meanwhile .... Hypocritically forgotten to attached this to your post

US na your mate?

Edibless07:
The main problem is that the are supprise to still see the Niger Delta region still under developed dispite the oil beeing pump out on daily basis.

Only in black ruled countries you will see that.
Look at deserts like Dubai,Abu Dhabi,Kuwait, Saudi,Qatar and compare them to Equitorial Guenia, Nigeria and Gabon.

chloride6:
Lol FG no go gree..

Who do want to sell it to?

Once chance local operators that don't have safety record and operational expertise?

So that they will be hearing story end of month?

Thanks but not thanks

True, and this locals know how to exploit their staffs, am telling from experience.

Blacks are their own worst enemies.

YOU are on point.

livingchrist:
Her faith justifies her.
She was not the only person in town but she only believed in Yaweh.

She just did not believe, she risked her life to protect God's people, that is faith with works.

She honour and placed God in her spirit above her king and gods which is what the first 3 commandments demand and that was evident I her risking her life to save God's people.

livingchrist:
I knew it would be jargons to you.

Sorry if I insulted you, don't use it as an excuse not to answer my question.

livingchrist:
ok keep laughing

Answer the question.

Would armed robbers, prostitutes, killers,idol worshippers e.t.c who confess their faith in Jesus but yet continue in this lifestyles I have mentioned get into Heaven?

livingchrist:
Jesus was speaking of The law

Jesus didn't say the law will not pass away but that they will all be fulfilled before they pass away, you are turning the scripture upside down.

Matthew 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Has Heaven and Earth pass away?

livingchrist:
You are filled with bitterness because I tell you the truth, any building built on lies will fall.

I ask you a question, did moses own any law?
Are they not all laws of God both written by moses or not?

This is the law given or written by God, also called testimony.

Exodus 25:16 And thou shalt put into the ark the testimony which I shall give thee. 25:17 And thou shalt make a mercy seat of pure gold: two cubits and a half shall be the length thereof, and a cubit and a half the breadth thereof. 25:18 And thou shalt make two cherubims of gold, of beaten work shalt thou make them, in the two ends of the mercy seat. 25:21 And thou shalt put the mercy seat above upon the ark; and in the ark thou shalt put the testimony that I shall give thee. 25:22 And there I will meet with thee, and I will commune with thee from above the mercy seat, from between the two cherubims which are upon the ark of the testimony, of all things which I will give thee in commandment unto the children of Israel.

livingchrist:
You are filled with bitterness because I tell you the truth, any building built on lies will fall.

I ask you a question, did moses own any law?
Are they not all laws of God both written by moses or not?

Am angry becos you run away from the truth even when it is obvious.

You keeping repeating same questions even when you have been properly answered just becos you are dodging the truth.

They are all laws given by God for different purpose and intent.

For God to write the 10 with his fingers and demand it should be placed inside the Ark below the mercy seat shows it eternal nature.

It will take God 1mini secs to write the entire 600laws on a stone, the question is why did Gid choose to write only 10.

Do you know that Apostle John was shown the 10commandments in the book of Revelation still intact and preserved in the Ark of testament in the temple in Heaven?
Remember that the Ark of convanent built by Moses was a replica of what is in Heaven and both contain the 10commandments inside the Ark upon the mercy seat.

Exodus 25:9 According to all that I shew thee, after the pattern of the tabernacle, and the pattern of all the instruments thereof, even so shall ye make it.

Hebrews 9:23 It was therefore necessary that the patterns of things in the heavens should be purified with these; but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these.

Revelation 11:19 And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail.


Showing its eternal nature.

As God cannot change so also the 10commandments cannot change they are a reflection of who God's is, his character

livingchrist:
You are filled with bitterness because I tell you the truth, any building built on lies will fall.

I ask you a question, did moses own any law?
Are they not all laws of God both written by moses or not?

You are not showing any sense of maturity or sense of someone who was to learn or know the truth.
You are only here to message your ego and pride.

Here is the law moses wrote inspired by God.

Deuteronomy 31:24 And it came to pass, when Moses had made an end of writing the words of this law in a book, until they were finished, 31:25 That Moses commanded the Levites, which bare the ark of the covenant of the LORD, saying, 31:26 Take this book of the law, and put it in the side of the ark of the covenant of the LORD your God, that it may be there for a witness against thee. 31:27 For I know thy rebellion, and thy stiff neck: behold, while I am yet alive with you this day, ye have been rebellious against the LORD; and how much more after my death? 31:28 Gather unto me all the elders of your tribes, and your officers, that I may speak these words in their ears, and call heaven and earth to record against them. 31:29 For I know that after my death ye will utterly corrupt yourselves, and turn aside from the way which I have commanded you; and evil will befall you in the latter days; because ye will do evil in the sight of the LORD, to provoke him to anger through the work of your hands.

livingchrist:
works of faith. For example Abraham wantes to sacrifice his son because God told him to do so, Abel made a very good sacrifice to God, rehab his the Israelites spies, these are not written in the ten commandment are they? These are works of faith.

But God has told us that Abraham obeyed his Laws.
Which you deny making God a liar.


They are all written in 10commandments.

Idolatry is anything that takes God's place in your life, it can be your child,money,time,family or idol.

Abraham obeyed God and showed that God was far more important to him than his Son Isaac which he got at 100years.

Hence he has obeyed the first 3 commandments.
Which demands one to Honour and worship God alone.

God has also told us that only by obeying his commandments we can please him.

Same with Abel he honoured Gid with his Substance, thus he placed God above material thing unlike his brother cain.

Every Sin you can ever imagine is directly revealed in the 10commandments.

livingchrist:
Is there a verse that said the theif was made righteous because he confessed Christ?
No sir falling into sin would not make him lose his salvation.

Luke 23:39 And one of the malefactors which were hanged railed on him, saying, If thou be Christ, save thyself and us. 23:40 But the other answering rebuked him, saying, Dost not thou fear God, seeing thou art in the same condemnation? 23:41 And we indeed justly; for we receive the due reward of our deeds: but this man hath done nothing amiss. 23:42 And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom.


Note verse 23:42.

So if he lived and did not die that day, and he continued killing and robbing people ,when he dies he will go to your own Heaven?

2 Chronicles 7:14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

Condition for been forgiven of ones sin is to turn away from it.

Here Apostles Peter admonishes the people to not go back to their former lifestyles, which mean it is very much possible.

2 Peter 2:15 Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Bosor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness; 2:20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. 2:21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. 2:22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.

livingchrist:
To believe in God is to trust put ones trust in God in totality.

I can stop laughing at you.

I asked you do Arm robbers,murderers ,prostitutes, scammers,idolatrers don't believe in God?

livingchrist:
You do not need to live in the time of Christ to know what to do, because the Holy spirit teaches the christian.

An arm robber does not need to be told to follow the law of the spirit, all he need to do after being born again is to fashion himself after the image of Christ, in other all he needs is the awakening of his new image in Christ Jesus and he will live in righteousness.

In the new testament we are to stand and walk in our new position given to us in Christ, but those who walk by the law strive to enter that position which is gotten in Christ Jesus freely.

A Christian falls away when he begins to strive for what he has gotten freely in Christ. For example in Christ Jesus I m righteous and holy,

A Christian is growing towards the image of christ in an ever increasing intensity, He grows in love, patience, faith, meekness, longsuffering, honesty, and all the dimension of the fruit of the spirit, the more consistently he behold the glory of Christ the more transformed he his.


In other words, the new life in Christ is about growth and continuous growth into the fully formed image of christ.

The ten commandments is basic, its purpose to to lead men to Christ, while the law of the spirit causes righteousness and growth towards christ.

You are confused.

How do you grow in the image of Christ?

What is the image of Christ, have you seen christ?

If that robber asks you what is living in the image of Christ what will be your answer?

You craftly dodged to answer my question.

David had all this qualities yet he fell into Sin.

Satan was created perfect saw and beheld God's glory yet he fell into sin.

All this your grammar is just jargon.

livingchrist:
you ended up not answering my question,
Was there any ten commandment that told Rahab that Jehovah is the only true God?
She happens to know by what the works of Jehovah.
By the way believing there is one God is not what Justifies Rahab, even demons believe there is one God.

So what justified her?
If she had no knowledge that God was supreme and above every other gods would she had put on trust and faith in God?

Was she the only person in the town?
Have you not read of other tribes that fought the Israelites even with the stories they heard about God and how he fought for the Israelites becos they believed in their gods?

Mindlog:
"Non-binary people not only do not identify as the gender they were assigned at birth, they do not identify with the male or female gender at all".....In other words they are neither female nor male

Than they are what?
For me they are Idiots.

Jeromejnr:
Yeah, and Twitter just banned a politician for saying men can't get pregnant. They termed it hate speech.

Also 2 + 2 = 4 is apparently racist. Yes math is racist.

The Prince in Snow White has also been charged with sexaul harassment. For Non consensual kissing of the princess who was in a sleep of death.

So folks, before you give someone who has drowned CPR, make sure you ask for consent first from the person who is unconscious.

I am privileged to have witnessed a generation that has lost it collective minds.

It is New World Order.

That how it is achieved.

livingchrist:
The ten commandment was put together as a written code during the time of moses and was administered by moses hence it came through moses but it does not mean it originated from moses.
Hence the law including the ten commandments came through moses.
Before moses there was nothing as the ten commandment as a written code.

For example, the law of circumcision, although this law existed before moses yet to is called the law of moses, that is because it is was all included in the law given to moses.


Same argument can be made concerning circumcision and burnt offerings, these originated before moses but were later part of the written law.

Galatians 3:21
Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law.

The ten commandment cannot make anyone righteous, till date you cannot answer me which of the ten commandment made God declare Abraham righteous?

The answer is simple no one, there is no law that can make anybody righteous.

I m not saying the ten commandment is not Good infact, the ten commandment is a shadow of the real deal, the law of Christ is the real deal.
The law of circumcision, sabbath, burnt offerings and indeed every law have their fulfillment and true meaning in Christ.

1 John 3:4
Verse Concepts
Everyone who practices sin also practices lawlessness; and sin is lawlessness.

Abeg explain this verse.

livingchrist:
the questions are simple?
Which of the ten commandment did Rahab, Abraham, the theif on the cross did that made God declare them righteous?

Joshua 2:8 And before they were laid down, she came up unto them upon the roof; 2:9 And she said unto the men, I know that the LORD hath given you the land, and that your terror is fallen upon us, and that all the inhabitants of the land faint because of you. 2:10 For we have heard how the LORD dried up the water of the Red sea for you, when ye came out of Egypt; and what ye did unto the two kings of the Amorites, that were on the other side Jordan, Sihon and Og, whom ye utterly destroyed. 2:11 And as soon as we had heard these things, our hearts did melt, neither did there remain any more courage in any man, because of you: for the LORD your God, he is God in heaven above, and in earth beneath. 2:12 Now therefore, I pray you, swear unto me by the LORD, since I have shewed you kindness, that ye will also shew kindness unto my father's house, and give me a true token: 2:13 And that ye will save alive my father, and my mother, and my brethren, and my sisters, and all that they have, and deliver our lives from death. 2:14 And the men answered her, Our life for yours, if ye utter not this our business. And it shall be, when the LORD hath given us the land, that we will deal kindly and truly with thee. 2:15 Then she let them down by a cord through the window: for her house was upon the town wall, and she dwelt upon the wall. 2:16 And she said unto them, Get you to the mountain, lest the pursuers meet you; and hide yourselves there three days, until the pursuers be returned: and afterward may ye go your way. 2:17 And the men said unto her, We will be blameless of this thine oath which thou hast made us swear.

Go and read the 10commandments and note the first 3 then you will see the ones Rahab obeyed.

livingchrist:
The ten commandment was put together as a written code during the time of moses and was administered by moses hence it came through moses but it does not mean it originated from moses.
Hence the law including the ten commandments came through moses.
Before moses there was nothing as the ten commandment as a written code.

For example, the law of circumcision, although this law existed before moses yet to is called the law of moses, that is because it is was all included in the law given to moses.


Same argument can be made concerning circumcision and burnt offerings, these originated before moses but were later part of the written law.

Galatians 3:21
Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law.

The ten commandment cannot make anyone righteous, till date you cannot answer me which of the ten commandment made God declare Abraham righteous?

The answer is simple no one, there is no law that can make anybody righteous.

I m not saying the ten commandment is not Good infact, the ten commandment is a shadow of the real deal, the law of Christ is the real deal.
The law of circumcision, sabbath, burnt offerings and indeed every law have their fulfillment and true meaning in Christ.

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Define Sin?
Does Sin still exist Now?

livingchrist:
@ bolded really?

Romans 3:27
Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.

That is why I asked you which law was Abraham walking by, before the ten commandment, you ranting.
Abraham and indeed all the other saints lived by the law of faith.

Up till now your head have not told you that when the Bible talks about faith in Christ it means faith that leads to obedience to God's commandments.


Romans 3:31
Do we then make void the law through faith? Certainly not! On the contrary, we establish the law.


Romans 2:13
(for not the hearers of the law are just in the sight of God, but the doers of the law will be justified;


Matthew 19:17
So He said to him, "Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God. But if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments."

Romans 8:7
Because the carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can be.

1 Corinthians 7:19
Circumcision is nothing and uncircumcision is nothing, but keeping the commandments of God is what matters.


James 2:24
You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only.

1 John 5:3
For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome

livingchrist:
you are venting ignorance where did I say if you are Christ you do not obey him.
I mentioned the law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus, that is the law those in Christ walk in.
Those who live by the law of Christ fulfill the ten commandments and even go beyond it.

Abeg show me in the bible were Christ told anyone one that they need the law of the spirit to enter Heaven?

livingchrist:
you are venting ignorance where did I say if you are Christ you do not obey him.
I mentioned the law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus, that is the law those in Christ walk in.
Those who live by the law of Christ fulfill the ten commandments and even go beyond it.

What is the law of the spirit of Christ.

And does it contain?

Many of us did not live in the time of Christ so we do not know what he did and did not do.

So what is this law of spirit?

If I meet an Armed robber and tell them to fellow the law of spirit what do you think he will understand by that?

livingchrist:
Read the book of James, there is a difference between believing there is God and actually believing in that God.
See, how the devil is deceiving you.
The devils do not believe in God they only believe there is God.

As usual you deviated from answering my question.

livingchrist:
Read the book of James, there is a difference between believing there is God and actually believing in that God.
See, how the devil is deceiving you.
The devils do not believe in God they only believe there is God.

You are confused,

Good, so what doe believing in God entails?

Does a murderer, a prostitute, a lair ,A 419 believe in God or not?

livingchrist:
the questions are simple?
Which of the ten commandment did Rahab, Abraham, the theif on the cross did that made God declare them righteous?

The thief was declared righteous by his confession on the Cross, but if he had continued living after that day and fall back to sin.

He would have not gotten into Heaven?

Will a prostitute who died in her occupation make Heaven?

livingchrist:
you are simply ignorant sir.
The difference between living faith and dead faith is works.
Living faith produces works but a dead faith does not.

I agree am ingnorant.

So what are the works?