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Kobojunkie:
I am afraid I can't help you there. I posted a response, if you have a problem with it, we go from there instead.

The problem is you fail to see your wrong.

You quoted me insinuating that I wanted to give a new commandments .

Who where you referring to as pretending as God forbids us celebrating birthdays?

MaxInDHouse:
Sun-Day is the worship of Sun and the Roman empire conquered the world to set the standard for working day.
All these we know but God's word has nothing to do with marking of days anymore, it was established so that God's people, their slaves and beasts of burden can have a time to rest! Exodus 23:12
So Holy-Day (holiday) as instituted according to God's law has a specific purpose (that people serving God may rest) and since we have time to rest there is no need going back to the old covenant but birthday celebration has nothing absolutely NOTHING to do with God whether in the old or new covenant!

Really?

Do you know that the sabbath day was insistuted as a memorial of God creating the Earth and not just for Human rest?

MaxInDHouse:
God's word said as Christians we are no more under obligation to keep the Sabbath day anymore! Colossians 2:16
I know you love to continue with this Pagan custom called birthday celebration and nobody is holding you back from pleasing yourself but know that it has nothing absolutely NOTHING to do with the true God!

Really?

You don't know what colossians2:16 is saying.

Jesus said nothing even a T or dot will be done away from the law, so either you or Jesus is liaring, and I know it is you.

MaxInDHouse:
The first century Apostles are our teachers whose faith we are imitating! Hebrews 13:7


Whatever God blessed in the midst of his people calls for a celebration! Genesis 1:28, 2:24; Matthew 19:5 John 2:1
Please just cite one example of Birthday celebration involving God's servants after all we know that it's not just a new thing! Genesis 40:20; Matthew 14:6

But that same God blessed and sanctified the sabbath which you do not observe.

MaxInDHouse:
The world agreed to work from Monday to Friday, Saturday for parties and Sunday for worship. So since we don't have any say over our employers we reschedule our time for worship in order to meet up with our secular works.
We either worship on Saturdays or Sundays since God's word has rendered the old covenant (which say our worship must be on Saturdays) obsolete.
But as for birthdays we have the choice either to join in the pagan custom or ignore!

Really?
You don't know what you are saying.
Go and google the histroy of Sunday worship.

Kobojunkie:
The OP is not a person but a post. Is this your first thread?

What is the meaning of OP?

igbesachick:
funny, who cares what you say ? ask yourself, whenever 5G is mentioned, ppl will think of what ? Huawei and china. simply put "5G patent" in google, and you see what happens.

as if chinese and american will against each other and you guys can salvage the crumbs from the trade war . actually, they are cooperating pretty well. Huawei cpu 40% from america, 30% from taiwan, the rest is developed by itsel, called kirin cpu. and huawei also buy from intel. you only know qualcomm, as if that is your sugar dad.

the rare dirt which is the crucial element of cpu, is from china . it has 90% reserve in the world.

and which country signs 5G construction contract with qualcomm ? zero. it is just a cpu supplier that aspires to be a 5G solution provider. it has to go a long way before reach what huawei has done today.

if huawei is a china company with shiethole products, why the West smears it ? nobody gives a shiet to the real shiets made in nigeria.

Who gives a Bleep about your opinion?

MaxInDHouse:
The first century Apostles are our teachers whose faith we are imitating! Hebrews 13:7


Whatever God blessed in the midst of his people calls for a celebration! Genesis 1:28, 2:24; Matthew 19:5 John 2:1
Please just cite one example of Birthday celebration involving God's servants after all we know that it's not just a new thing! Genesis 40:20; Matthew 14:6

Angel's and people and the wise men celebrated the birth of Jesus.

igbesachick:
are you blind?

huawei not just being the biggest patent possesser, it also is the biggest market occupier, with 36% global market share while erricson 24% as the second. Qualcomm has zero market even in usa itself. literally , america has no 5G projects being under construction right now while huawei has contracts with 22 countries, not to say the construction in china itself.

it will end up like bullet trains, china possesses 75% bullet trains in the world while america has almost zero.

Clown, Qualcomm does not produce Telecom equipment like Ericsson and Huawei.
You are really naive becos if you understand how things work you will know that Huawei can lose that market share in 1day.


So China invented bullet train?

Kobojunkie:
That response was to your OP and so it is meant for any and everyone who disagrees.

Am the OP

MaxInDHouse:
It's either we adhere to lay down principles or go on the spacious way where we can do anything in the name of God! Matthew 7:13-14

Which is laid down principles?

Is there any commandments for one to celebrate marriage with feast?

Kobojunkie:
Where in my text do you find me suggesting that you did?

You quoted me with this .


Jesus Christ warned His followers against adding rules/commandments where none has been given. The Truth of God gave no rules as far as the celebration of birth days implying that the choice is left to individuals to decide whether or not to partake of such celebrations.

And this.


God is not against your celebrating your birthdays, why pretend that He is?

igbesachick:
https://www.statista.com/chart/20095/companies-with-most-5g-patent-families-and-patent-families-applications/


go fvck yourself. china is your daddy ! even yellow squint eyed korean beat USA . qualcomm ranked 4th. and 2 china companies over there.

you dont even know why you hate china so much. why the west media smear china? because china is on the cusp of new era, and the caucasian know they are fvcked up this time . you think you hate china because of that cheap sandals you buy from the store ? pathetic african, still under slavery mindset, but dont know what their white masters afraid!

this time you meet a species even your white master has to surrender to. you are revenged.

i will take your acquiescence as the apology to me !

Why the rant?
Becos I exposed your naivety.

igbesachick:
even USA has to pay 5G patent fees to china , under the china hater Trump and during the trade war !

if you are USA and the white face, you will hate china more than you buy a pair of cheap quality shoes !

https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2020/6/9/huaweis-trump-card-firm-owns-most-5g-patents-despite-us-ban

Sorry to bust your bubble most patents for 5G are owned by Qualcomm .
The fact is that Huawei will pay patent fees to Qualcomm becos their invention laid the foundation for 5G.

Ericsson and Nokia also supply equipment for building 5G network, E.g is South Korea 5G.

https://cn.reuters.com/article/instant-article/idUSKCN1GR1IN


Qualcomm has landed a number of these foundational patents, which means that both handset makers and telecommunications gear makers will have to pay it licensing fees. It dominated standards setting in 3G and 4G wireless and looks set to top the list of patent holders heading into the 5G cycle.

MaxInDHouse:
© Pagans do celebrate to hail their Gods but God warned His own people never to imitate any of their customs! {Deuteronomy 12:30}
© We all know that there are only two examples of Birthday celebrants in the Bible, no God's servant celebrate birthdays! Genesis 40:20; Matthew 14:6
© God's word says the day one dies is more important than the day of one's birth! Ecclesiastes 7:1
© Jesus' foster parents never celebrated his birthday!
© In line with God's word Jesus (who said he has come to fulfill what was written before him) never marked his birthday but initiated a remembrance of his death! Luke 22:19
© None of the Apostles celebrated birthday, never thought of celebrating Christ's birthday during or after his ascension to heaven!

Anybody can celebrate anything but it's obvious that birthday celebration is a pagan custom that has nothing to do with God's people of old and according to God's word, we must imitate their faith and learn how to please their God through their submissive attitude! Romans 15:4; 1Corinthians 10:11 compare to Hebrews 13:7

So if anyone is trying to teach us the customs of Pagans as something good before the true God we must have a second thought! Galatians 1:8

Thanks may God bless you and may you have PEACE!

How is birthday celebration pagan?

I mean one celebrating his birthday and not that of a god.

MaxInDHouse:
Feasting is merriment not birthday and God's people from the time of Noah do that but never was any servant of God mentioned having to do with birthday celebration NEVER!

Sunday Worship is it not custom of the pagans?

Kobojunkie:
I really don't know what you are going on about.

This is your quote to me.

Read and answer the question you asked me.

Jesus Christ warned His followers against adding rules/commandments where none has been given. The Truth of God gave no rules as far as the celebration of birth days implying that the choice is left to individuals to decide whether or not to partake of such celebrations. undecided

You heap curses on yourselves when you adopt the doctrines and traditions of men, claiming you do so in the name of God. God has given no man authority to , in His name, make rules or teach ideas that are not of Him. Both those who teach such doctrines of men, and those who follow them, are cursed with a great curse - the power of God is nullified in their lives as a result of their sin. So, do not give any human that kind of power over God in your life. undecided

God is not against your celebrating your birthdays, why pretend that He is? undecided

MaxInDHouse:
Feasting is merriment not birthday and God's people from the time of Noah do that but never was any servant of God mentioned having to do with birthday celebration NEVER!

Abraham threw a feast for his son when he was weaned.

So on our birthdays we should cry and curse God?

Kobojunkie:
Where in my text do you find me suggesting that you did?

Please re-read your text.

Kobojunkie:
I did, hence the reason why I believe it is right to point out that God did not give man any commands as far as such activities are concerned implying freedom of choice on the part of individuals.

So where did I write that God has given man such commandments?

MaxInDHouse:
© Pagans do celebrate to hail their Gods but God warned His own people never to imitate any of their customs! {Deuteronomy 12:30}
© We all know that there are only two examples of Birthday celebrants in the Bible, no God's servant celebrate birthdays! Genesis 40:20; Matthew 14:6
© God's word says the day one dies is more important than the day of one's birth! Ecclesiastes 7:1
© Jesus' foster parents never celebrated his birthday!
© In line with God's word Jesus (who said he has come to fulfill what was written before him) never marked his birthday but initiated a remembrance of his death! Luke 22:19
© None of the Apostles celebrated birthday, never thought of celebrating Christ's birthday during or after his ascension to heaven!

Anybody can celebrate anything but it's obvious that birthday celebration is a pagan custom that has nothing to do with God's people of old and according to God's word, we must imitate their faith and learn how to please their God through their submissive attitude! Romans 15:4; 1Corinthians 10:11 compare to Hebrews 13:7

So if anyone is trying to teach us the customs of Pagans as something good before the true God we must have a second thought! Galatians 1:8

Thanks may God bless you and may you have PEACE!

Is feast not custom of the pagans?

Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ warned His followers against adding rules/commandments where none has been given. The Truth of God gave no rules as far as the celebration of birth days implying that the choice is left to individuals to decide whether or not to partake of such celebrations.

You heap curses on yourselves when you adopt the doctrines and traditions of men, claiming you do so in the name of God. God has given no man authority to , in His name, make rules or teach ideas that are not of Him. Both those who teach such doctrines of men, and those who follow them, are cursed with a great curse - the power of God is nullified in their lives as a result of their sin. So, do not give any human that kind of power over God in your life.

God is not against your celebrating your birthdays, why pretend that He is?

Did you read the article?

One topic and subject that has divided Christains, is the issue of one celebrating his or her birthday,

As Christains are we supposed to celebrate our birthdays or is it wrong?
To answer this questions we will examine God's words and Bible examples inorder to better understand God's opinion concerning this topic.

The Bible is silent on the issue of one celebrating his or her birthday, infact there are only 2 instances or examples of birthdays been celebrated in the Bible one was by pharaoh(Genesis 40:20) and the other was by Herod(Matthew 14:6)

When the Bible is silent on an issue it is left for us to use our discretion in making decisions.
Secondly we also need to consider if that issue or subject offends or displeases God in anyway and does it rob God of his glory?.

A good argument for celebration of ones birthday is the case of the institution of Marriage.
While God himself instituted marriage there is no clear example in the Bible that marriages should be celebrated with feast, but we all know that Jesus attended a marriage feast where he turned water into wine, thus we can conclude that marriage feasts are acceptable to God.

In the book of Gensis 21:8 Abraham the Man God called his friend threw a feast when Isaac his son was weaned although not a typical birthday but it was greatly celebrated by Abraham and his family.

In Job3:1-end Job was cursing and lamenting about his day of birth, this normally would have been a day of celebration but Job was bitter becos of the difficulty he found himself but he still recognized the uniqueness of his day of birth and God's sustenance all through his life.

In plsams 90:12 the psalmist requested that God will teach them to number their days, inorder words to acknowledge their age or days on Earth.

There is nothing wrong in one appreciating God for adding one year to their life, if it is wrong than is it better we complain, murmur and curse God on our birthdays?

Celebrating birthdays with feast or not is left for an individual to decide, but weather with feast or not all should be done with humility.

Psalms 6:5 For in death there is no remembrance of thee: in the grave who shall give thee thanks?

Psalms 35:18 I will give thee thanks in the great congregation: I will praise thee among much people.

Psalms 97:12 Rejoice in the LORD, ye righteous; and give thanks at the remembrance of his holiness.
Ephesians 5:20 Giving thanks always for all things unto God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ;

Psalms 71:6 By thee have I been holden up from the womb: thou art he that took me out of my mother's bowels: my praise shall be continually of thee.

In Conclusion.
It is obvious that there is nothing inherently evil in one celebrating his or her birthday, rather it is an opportunity for one to express his gratitude to God for life given and to pray for more of God sustanance for years to come.
In my own personal view that day should be used to reach out to the less privileged and those who are in difficult situations like those in prisons this a way of expressing ones gratitude to God.

Like Paul says in Roman 14:6 anyone can regard any day unto God as special be it your birthday or not but what matters is that in all, all Glory should be given only to God.
Romans 14:6 He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.

Thank You.

igbesachick:
european companies play roles in 5G ?

Germany choose huawei help build 5G. so as austria, czeck, switzerland, poland, hungary, greek.

which european country has its own company ? Nokia? Errisson? are they still existing?

even USA has no its own 5G company. 5G is a complex solution , not just a cpu chip made in qualcomm. with 5G , a mine worker can work in office to control a robot to dig mine underground. you think 5G is cellphone signal ? dumb ass !

the second distant 5G competitor is samsung.

You are funny, you cannot differentiate between develop and deploy.

For your information 5G was not developed by any Chinese firm, rather it was developed by a group led by European and US firms.

Huawei is not the only provider of 5G technology neither did they solely develop it.

It's obvious you are a Chinese apologist no wonder you have sold your sense.

gaventa:
Now I get you right.... discovered means discovering the source����

Mongo park was the one who traced the river to its mouth, that's while he is credited as the one who discovered it.

igbesachick:
so, chinese women should not wear bras and chinese workers should not producing copycat bras in the factories , because bra was invented by westerners ?

copy everything ?

can you precisely tell me which one ?

if copy can make a country strong, isnt it too easy ? why dont you copy and put on a tie and suit and be a Havard professor immediately ?

I never said coping is wrong, but you guys overate the Chinese and underestimates the influence of western culture and technology on the Chinese.

igbesachick:
to give you the example of bicycle is to prove chinese taking over the west invention and making it bigger.

if you want new inventions from china, 5G is the proof. 60% patents come from china . even if your country invites korea help build 5G, you need to pay patent fees to Huawei the same.

and more new chinese invetions are coming, in exponential times than the first industrial revolution. bicycle is just a trinket from the 1st revolution. and the country , UK, that led the revolution has already been powerful enough to give a big shiet to you guys. and check the USA, the leader of 2nd and 3 rd revolutions, who turned UK to be a shiet itself.

now it is 4th tide of industrial revolution with new inventions.

That's how you parrot lies Huawei never invented 5G neither did they own the patent.
5G was invented and developed by Qualcomm, although not sole by them.

US and European companies and tech guys played more role in its development.

China can never rule World economy not with their shithole products and copycat.



https://www.qualcomm.com/5g/what-is-5g

Lagoon0:
So what does you mean?

Like Ive seen. You're a misguided person. And won't learn anything.

Sorry Sir.

How many laws in Physics and chemistry or elements in chemistry were discovered by Asians?

Lagoon0:
I know you want to start with accuracy base ranking. I don't need ranking to know Japan is top trend in technology.

The stupid habit of you ignorant folk is argue with almost anybody.
There no wisdom in your argument. What history of technology have you read?

Give me a bit historical knowledge base on intuition not copy and paste data.
The major development in the European and western world hit its peak during the 1800s to 20th century with the development of physics.
Prior to that time nothing much about the so called western or Europeans.

Funny enough the so called westerners has very little contributors to the enlightenment of the 1800s to 20the century. Majority of contributors were Europeans and you've been spamming this thread with westerners .
So Isaac newton, Albert Einstein , Neil bohr , Schrödinger , Dalton etc are westerners ?

your still a misguided illiterate.
Everything dates back to the age of Greek philosophers , to the time of Socrates , Aristotle , Plato .

My friend the Greek are not the inventors of the philosophy.

In fact believe your rubbish story I don't have time waste.

You very dumb.
Japan rank high in technology! How?

Have you read about Roman and Greek Civilisations?


Isaac newton,Albert Einstein , Neil bohr , Schrödinger , Dalton etc are westerners ?

So you mean the above are not westerners?

I rest my case , its obvious i was arguing with a buffon.

igbesachick:
china copies the west ?

if so, why china is depicted as the antipode of the west ? why the propaganda is fraught with "righteous democratic west VS vicious freedomless china" ?

at least, the west itself does not view china as a copycat . china may copy the cheap stuff, as a business starter and a way to earn money in the less developed countries for lower budget customers. but basically china and west are different.

Stop deceiving yourself China copies virtual everything from the West.

igbesachick:
well, if you live long enough, in the following 50 years, china will prove you are wrong.

British invented bicycles, but chinese produce 99% today, and possess all the famous brands and technologies.

and tons of other examples.

Why bicycle ? the would have invented something else.

selemempe:
why don't they wear the kimonos to work? Why suit and tie?

Have you seen white people wearing the cultural dresses of other groups anywhere. Why do other groups seem to wear the White's dresses?

The modern world belongs to the west. Whether you admit it or not is up to you. I'm out of this threat

Inferiority complex is so strong on this dudes that they will deny reality.

The World belongs to whites, weather in sports, entertainment, invention,legal system, government,education, fashion name it Whites rule.

We are saying it not becos we love Whites but because it's a fact.