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Barristter07:
Emphasis on " when the period had passed " . How come the period of birthdays passed without the females doing theirs ?

You would as well have asked why Job's wife was not trailed or trail mentioned.

Barristter07:
Emphasis on " when the period had passed " . How come the period of birthdays passed without the females doing theirs ?

Go and write your own Bible

Barristter07:
Educate yourself, the statement pagan origin means connection with false worship not that because pagans mourn , isrealites cannot mourn. Mourning is human trait, same way wedding is generic irrespective of religion.

So becos Pagans celeberated birthday means we Christains cannot ?

You keep exposing yourself.

Barristter07:
woman no get date of birth ?

Is mourning of Pagan origin?
Because the Egyptians and Israelites did it.

The Israelites also observed time.


Genesis 50:3 And forty days were fulfilled for him; for so are fulfilled the days of those which are embalmed: and the Egyptians mourned for him threescore and ten days.

Genesis 50:4 And when the days of his mourning were past, Joseph spake unto the house of Pharaoh, saying, If now I have found grace in your eyes, speak, I pray you, in the ears of Pharaoh, saying,

Genesis 50:10 And they came to the threshingfloor of Atad, which is beyond Jordan, and there they mourned with a great and very sore lamentation: and he made a mourning for his father seven days.


Leviticus 23:41 And ye shall keep it a feast unto the LORD seven days in the year. It shall be a statute for ever in your generations: ye shall celebrate it in the seventh month.

Numbers 10:10 Also in the day of your gladness, and in your solemn days, and in the beginnings of your months, ye shall blow with the trumpets over your burnt offerings, and over the sacrifices of your peace offerings; that they may be to you for a memorial before your God: I am the LORD your God.

Numbers 20:29 And when all the congregation saw that Aaron was dead, they mourned for Aaron thirty days, even all the house of Israel.

Barristter07:
woman no get date of birth ?

The Jews observed certain years as celebration and it was not counted a Sin.

Deuteronomy 34:8 And the children of Israel wept for Moses in the plains of Moab thirty days: so the days of weeping and mourning for Moses were ended.

Esther 9:27 The Jews ordained, and took upon them, and upon their seed, and upon all such as joined themselves unto them, so as it should not fail, that they would keep these two days according to their writing, and according to their appointed time every year;

Esther 9:28 And that these days should be remembered and kept throughout every generation, every family, every province, and every city; and that these days of Purim should not fail from among the Jews, nor the memorial of them perish from their seed.

MaxInDHouse:
Exactly what all the contemporary religionsts of Jesus' day said about him {John 10:20} so you're confirming what he foretold that you and your people (who can't agree on the same line of thought) will say about his true followers! John 15:20



If you've concluded that my church is scam then is there any reason whatsoever to start asking me questions when you're damn sure that i don't have the answer?

Ecclesiastes 3:2 A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted; John 16:21 A woman when she is in travail hath sorrow, because her hour is come: but as soon as she is delivered of the child, she remembereth no more the anguish, for joy that a man is born into the world.


Ecclesiastes 11:8 But if a man live many years, and rejoice in them all; yet let him remember the days of darkness; for they shall be many. All that cometh is vanity.


Luke 1:14 And thou shalt have joy and gladness; and many shall rejoice at his birth.

Emusan:
I didn't give much attention to that Job from beginning because I thought @achorladey has done enough justice to that but I see you derive joy in your ignorance and delusion.

Here is the verse in NIV

"His sons used to hold feasts in their homes on their birthdays, and they would invite their three sisters to eat and drink with them."

Everyone can see the verse didn't say, the sisters don't hold their own birthdays but WHENEVER THEIR BROTHERS DID they'll be invited.

Everyone knows Bible mostly silent on female issues but to satisfy your delusion you have to interject your own twisting theory.

On point.

Barristter07:
His day NOT his birthday.

His day can mean a time someone chosed.

There was a custom in that family that the sons organize a Feast. So each will chose his own day to organize it. That's the reference point of the text.

That you said the females are just mere invitees proved beyond doubt , that wasn't a birthday. Don't the females have a date of birth too ? if that place want to sideline females according to your point of view, it won't have made mention of them attending at all . That the females cannot organize that feast is enough prove for a rational person that the Job text wasn't a reference to birthday's

See how you are boxing yourself into a corner hypocrite..

Barristter07:
woman no get date of birth ?

So you expect the Bible to tell you how Abraham Slept with Sarah?
All the positions they did , and weather Abraham used contraceptive or not?
If the answer is NO, than don't expect the Bible to tell us about women birthday becos it was not relevant to the subject which was about Job and his trials.

MaxInDHouse:
Exactly what all the contemporary religionsts of Jesus' day said about him {John 10:20} so you're confirming what he foretold that you and your people (who can't agree on the same line of thought) will say about his true followers! John 15:20



If you've concluded that my church is scam then is there any reason whatsoever to start asking me questions when you're damn sure that i don't have the answer?

Stop comparing your Church to Jesus. Your church is a well known false church.

I repeat what is Sin?

Janosky:
Nobody is in competition with you for quote of Scriptures .

Thanks for sharing Matthew 5:17-18, your reference point.

Jesus Christ fulfilled and abolished the law.
If the law were in force, you would be offering ram and pigeon to atone for your sins.
Galatians 3:13,23-25

* Colossians 3:13-16
You were dead because of your sins, that is, because of your “foreskin,” your old nature. But God made you alive along with the Messiah by forgiving you all your sins. 14 He wiped away the bill of charges against us. Because of the regulations, it stood as a testimony against us; but he removed it by nailing it to the execution-stake. [/b]15 Stripping the rulers and authorities of their power, he made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them by means of the stake.

[b]16 So don’t let anyone pass judgment on you in connection with eating and drinking, or in regard to a Jewish festival or Rosh-Hodesh or Shabbat"
* Romans10:4 "Christ is the end of the law"
Pronto !

Your Bible skill Sucks.
No wonder your Church is a scam and known for false prophecies.

At your age you do not know the difference between the sacrificial laws and the ten commandments.

An you still do not know the difference between Jewiah festivals and the weekly sabbath insistuted by God before sin came into the World.

You are suppose to be a Muslim. Christianity is far from you.

Janosky:
You're still not getting it.
No follower of Jesus or Servant of the true God, not even Jesus Christ himself, had any connection with annual birthdays celebrations.
Did mary Mary and Joseph celebrate Jesus 1st year birthday till he died or they had posthumous birthdays celebrations for him?

Did Jesus not know that king Herod had birthdays celebrations?
Did he do his own birthday celebrations?
.

Your Bible says Jesus Christ ended the Law plus the Sabbath.
Colossians 3:13-16. Romans10:4. Gal 3:13,23-25
.

Jobs children did.

Clown.

Which law did Jesus end?

MaxInDHouse:
The word (BIRTHDAY) is written in the case of Pharaoh {Genesis 40:20} and Herod {Matthew 14:6} and never mentioned in connection with a single worshiper of God so that case is settled!


You are free to keep the Sabbath if you wish but God's word says Christians aren't under any obligation for observance of any day not even the Sabbath! Colossians 2:16

Really ?
no wonder your Church is a scam.

What is Sin?
Define Sin for me.

Barristter07:
Are birthdays for only men ?

Are women just mere invites to a birthday party ?

This is the conclusion you are at risk of ending with for your illegal use of the verse.

You still don't get it.

Badabada:
On our way to breakthrough, may we not meet obsatacles in jesus name.

I believe one of her reasons of going to vigil that day was to commit there upcomimg journey into Gods hands. Mehn what a painful incident.

So sad, can only imagine what the family will be going through now. RIP to the dead.

Amen

Franzinni:
I guess at this point we are all heartless ... There use to be a time dead body was a scary or disgusting thing to behold ... Not anymore .

Which scary of its own... See as dem blast that last guy head to pieces ... His berret just pack oneside ...he might have been someone in life he wasn't reduced to a spectacle of babaric misguidance...

Thier killers will go home and be happy they wasted the enemy but if you check am ... If not for color and orientation, that man you killed could be your savior tomorow ..

I just don't even care anymore.... Kill kill kill please just leave the ju men out.

On point

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See them so called hardman.

Pussy.

MaxInDHouse:
Don't worry yourself my friend!

You don't need all this stress. You can't be arguing in support of Sabbath as if it's compulsory while your fellow birthday celebrators don't agree nah!

What you asked is about birthday and from all indications there is not a single worshiper of God mentioned celebrating BIRTHDAY nevertheless you feel like celebrating your birth with your cohorts who don't agree with your view regarding Sabbath. That's why i reminded you of the great chasm fixed between our people and your people.
So keep your heritage while we keep ours!

At least Abraham celeberated his son been Weaned, Angel's the Wise men Heaven and its Host celeberated the birth of Jesus and their are countless instructions with regard to one observing any day as been Good with regard to God mercy upon him.

That of the Sabbath is beyond this thread, it is God's law which no man or even Jesus Can change.

Janosky:
Why do you misquote the holy Scriptures?
Where did Jesus use the word "Law" in your quote?

No wonder you and your Church are know for false doctrines.

Matthew 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

achorladey:
He will rather believe sifted words of ATHEIST or wisdom of the world that is foolishness to God e.t.c that his religious leaders who say they are not inspired gives them as spiritual food.

True.

Barristter07:

the text said ONLY the sons organize the Feasts, So those ladies don't have birthdays ??
If the text were a reference to birthday's, are birthdays only for men ?


Answer.

Fake answer as usual.


Go and read Bible commentary

The bible is not a story book that would tell us every details the most important information has been passed and that is the Sons of Job celebrated their birthdays and it was never mentioned as a sin.

Benson Commentary
Job 1:4. His sons went and feasted in their houses — Or made a family feast, to testify and maintain their brotherly love. Every one his day — Not every day of the week and of the year, which would have been burdensome to them all, and gross luxury, and which certainly such a holy man as Job would not have permitted; but each his appointed day, perhaps his birth- day, or the first day of the month. It is certain the same expression, יומו, jomo, his day, means his birth-day, Job 3:1. “The verse,” says Dr. Dodd, “might be rendered, And his sons had a constant custom to make a family feast, every one on his birth-day; and they sent and invited their three sisters,” &c. According to Herodotus, the inhabitants of the East in general, and especially the Persians, were remarkable for celebrating their birthdays with great festivity and luxury.

Xdesign79:
This what happen when govt would not control the price of commodity in the country....everybody does what they like...its so sad.

Do you know what you are suggesting?

Communism.

MaxInDHouse:
There is a great chasm fixed between our people and yours {Luke 16:26} so keep what you've got while we'll also keep our heritage! Isaiah 54:17

You see how you craftly dodged to answer my question to avoid exposing yourself.

You rather believe your false prophet than the words of Jesus.

Barristter07:
Nothing like Birthdays existed in the Case of Job.

What were the children celebrating?

Janosky:
Job's children did NOT celebrate birthdays.
I've addressed that claim in my posts.
1 Corinthians 11:1 "imitate Jesus" our examplar.

So what were they celebrating, Nigeria independence?

achorladey:
One can only hope you get a response for this

True

Says the Fool and thief.

MaxInDHouse:
They don't know what rebelliousness truly means just because people around him are telling him that birthday celebration is unbiblical he wants to bring back the Mosaic laws that has been nailed to the torture stake!

Which Law did Jesus said will not pass away till Heaven and Earth do?

GeneralDae:
And the point is that not all pagan practices were rejected by the biblical scriptures.
Even paul used Marathon race of a pagan sports man as an example of how to fight the good fight, can you give me an example of a servant of Jehovah who ran Marathon race? Is Marathon race (something good for the health) a sin?
Pagans are also children of God and in time past, they invented almost everything then.

Most pagan inventions were inspiration from God corrupted by them.

GeneralDae:
I don't understand your arguement here, so if Pharoah and Herod both did terrible things on their birthday, did Jehovah in his scriptures deduce for you from those incidents that celebrating birthday is now altogether sinfull?

People can also do terrible things while celebrating the death of Jesus or any holy event. Some popes in the 14th century could have decided to burn witches alive on that same day, and if the bible was still being written then, it could have been recorded too. Would you then say celebrating the death of Jesus is a sin just because a Pope decided to celebrate it in his own cruel way?

I Concur their reasoning is Epic.

GeneralDae:
So because Pharaoh celebrated his birthday, then you can't celebrate your birthday? Still none of these scriptures tell you directly not to celebrate your birthdays in your holy way.

Even though you have failed to show me a scripture that forbids birthday celebration, I'll still say not everything from the pagans are excluded by God. Pagans from time immemorial who never worshipped Jehovah God also built great civilisations and had some wonderful philosophies like Taoism from Confucius in China, and even some of the African Ancestors had some great moral cultures as well which the God who created them may have also inspired.

Pagans invented sports and Olympics as we know it today. It was practiced in the Roman Empire that even Paul used it as an example of how Christians should run the race. Pagans invented writing not the Israelites. Pagans did a lot of things that the children of Isreal had to eventually adopt.

God of the Israelites only prevented terrible customs of the pagans like human sacrifices, sexual sins, and the likes not birthday celebration.

The truth is that most of the customs and acts of the pagans were good except for the fact they associated it with their false gods and religeon.

Barristter07:
In what sense was it used , dedicated to a false God Or God's command of marriage ? You are totally null here, because the rule of marriage applies to everyone irrespective of religion.


The Birthdays which started in Egypt didn't have the same tone, it was with reference to the belief that Pharaohs were a divine god. This makes this celebration a part of their False worship. THIS IS WHY YOU WONT FIND THE ISREALITES CONTINUING THE PRACTICE. It was banned ( Leviticus 18:3)

Was Job and his children from Egypt?