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Janosky:
Yet, you can't furnish any evidence of Jews and Israelites in your Bible celebrate birthdays, not even Jesus Christ you DECEIVE yourself you follow.

Matthew 28:20, teaching them to OBEY ALL THE THINGS I commanded you.
Bros, your Christmas & birthday is wrong, proven by Jesus Christ @ Matthew 28:20

Imperfect Slave wey wise pass the perfect Jesus na mumu slave typing GIBBERISH.


Birthdays celebrations is pagan practice in honor of a god , the monarch worshipped by pagans.
Jesus knew that fact,he shunned birthdays.
Is weaning birthday celebrations?
Jehovah did not command what Uzziah did just as Jehovah did NOT command your birthday celebrations?
Can you reason on it & digest this truth ?

You could not give one example or Bible verse that forbids birthday other than lies.
If Abraham could celebrate Isaac been weaned and it was not a sin why than is birthday different?

Only false Church like yours that is seeking relevance would call it sin.

bobestman:
You don't understand a concept and you are twisting it into another thing. The true Hebrews of old don't comb their hair they allow it to grow into locks like that of Samson. It was part of their traditions and scriptural too. Those who took vow and are Nazarites don't comb. The true Hebrews who practice such are called Nazarites, see numbers 6 for an example. They are people who have taken a vow to serve the Creator. The one you call Christ is of same group. Another truth is that Oyibos hair can't grow into locks.

I really didn't put things together in a way you guys will understand cos I know you will never understand and just want to argue. I didn't add the verses to prove my point too. The time will come when you guys will understand. I won't do that again

Lol you lie. The vision of Daniel is to be revealed in the end. When knowledge will increase with a device that run to and fro(that's internet thru Wifi signs) Daniel 12:4 is talking about a time when people will move with a handheld device that will help in increasing knowledge. So it is now cos in that era they know nothing about what we have today. They are still in the dark. What happened in that era is the setting up of the abomination that led to them giving you the false messiah. What the Messiah and the disciples did were twisted and that led to the Apostacy I am talking about. If you think I am lying, compare the time giving to Daniel to this time we are now, that is if you can understand, you will see that the time is almost up. The spirit was not poured to any Christians but Hebrews. They lied to you that they were Christians. Rome created your religion and the lies will end soon. I can't help you bro. Believe what you like bro. All these will be revealed in the light one day

Bro Israelites been black is a myth.

edoairways:
blueAgent is it ok to celebrate the birth of Christ ( assuming it doesn't have pagan origin)? If yes then you can celebrate birthday but if no you can't.

Is it right for us to fast since pagans fast to their gods?

Do you know the number of things pagans do that Christians do that is not Sin?

Janosky:
Bros, your claim is FALSE.
The Jews say blueAgent is DECEIVING himself & LYING..


Source:balashon.com (Hebrew Language Detective)
Sunday, May 17, 2020
yom huledet
The Hebrew phrase for "birthday" is יום הולדת yom huledet. While it's certainly a familiar phrase, it's actually kind of a strange construct. Huledet is the hufal (passive and causative) form. Why not use the simpler יום הלידה yom haleida - "day of birth"?

The phrase yom huledet appears three times in the Bible. The first is in Bereshit 40:20 after Yosef deciphered the dreams of his servants (the other two are in Yechezkel 16:4,5). Here is how the phrase appears in Bereshit:

וַיְהִי בַּיּוֹם הַשְּׁלִישִׁי יוֹם הֻלֶּדֶת אֶת־פַּרְעֹה וַיַּעַשׂ מִשְׁתֶּה לְכָל־עֲבָדָיו וַיִּשָּׂא אֶת־רֹאשׁ שַׂר הַמַּשְׁקִים וְאֶת־רֹאשׁ שַׂר הָאֹפִים בְּתוֹךְ עֲבָדָיו׃

On the third day—his birthday [yom huledet]—Pharaoh made a banquet for all his officials, and he singled out his chief cupbearer and his chief baker from among his officials.

Trash, you know better than the bible translators who am sure checked all this.

False teachers

MaxInDHouse:
Moses was the inspired of both Genesis and Job so he couldn't have called one event Birthday and change the name of the other event to something else.
So if Moses didn't record what Job's children did as Birthday then it's not Birthday!

Really ?
The bible translators called it birthday.

Janosky:
Bros, continue DECEIVING yourself making FALSE claims.
Na Matthew 28:20 dey cause you sifia pains

See who is quoting Matthew 28:20.

As your false freemason founder taught you guys lies and hypocrisy

Janosky:
Donald Redford, A Study of the Biblical Story of Joseph (Genesis: 37-50), pp. 205-206, writes: “The birthday of a king, like the birthday of a god,
.....Especially in the ancient world, in which the king becomes a divine being, the enthronement is a form of “divine birth”
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* [b]King Pharaoh is a pagan god worshipped in Egypt.
Paul is referring to days, months, and seasons observed in honour of pagan god, Pharaoh.
His birthdays celebrations is a form of divine birth"

blueAgent is a deluded clown DECEIVING himself.
Bros , you just dey showcase your Mumu

Its obvious you have no sense.

If celeberate my birthday that makes me to become a god?

If that the case then Christains should not mourn becos pagans Mourn there people as gods.

Your church is a failure.

Janosky:
The practice is strictly pagan, that is why Genesis 40:20 & Matthew 14:6 is in your Bible.
Bros, God did NOT command it.
did God accept the pagan practice they coined as "festival to Jehovah"?
"To OBEY is better is better ",1 Samuel 15:22
To OBEY Jesus @ Matthew 28:20 , is more important to Jehovah than your yearly repeat of a pagan practice

King Uzziah enter temple to praise Jehovah with sacrifice, na Jehovah God send am ?
Go & find out the consequences


Upon all your noise, you no fit name the great men of God wey celebrate birthdays.

Bros, why did Abraham not throw a feast when Isaac clocked 1year & repeat it every year?

Is weaning,an annual birthday celebration ?
Clown

Job's children were mentioned here an you deceptively twisted it to mean another thing.

Janosky:
The practice is strictly pagan, that is why Genesis 40:20 & Matthew 14:6 is in your Bible.
Bros, God did NOT command it.
did God accept the pagan practice they coined as "festival to Jehovah"?
"To OBEY is better is better ",1 Samuel 15:22
To OBEY Jesus @ Matthew 28:20 , is more important to Jehovah than your yearly repeat of a pagan practice

King Uzziah enter temple to praise Jehovah with sacrifice, na Jehovah God send am ?
Go & find out the consequences


Upon all your noise, you no fit name the great men of God wey celebrate birthdays.

Bros, why did Abraham not throw a feast when Isaac clocked 1year & repeat it every year?

Is weaning,an annual birthday celebration ?
Clown

If he did why will it be written?

First prove that the feast for Isaac been weaned is a sin?

In your little brain what makes birthday celebrations a sin is becos of it is done annually?

What has king Uzziah has to do with this?
Is this another way to twist scripture ?

Till date you are yet to give evidence in the bible that birthday celebrations is wrong.

All through the Bible there are evidence of Israelites and jews celeberating annual festivals.

No where was it written as sin.

Janosky:
See this clown speaking with both sides of his mouth
He says Ecclesiastes 6:3 not a clear instruction on birthday.

Any other things you added is your personal opinion, not inspired in the holy Scriptures.

.

You would have refuted my argument I did not add anything.

Its obvious you cannot prove the verse or any verse that forbiddens birthday.

Janosky:
See this clown DECEIVING himself
In Galatians 4:8 & Acts 12:21-22, Paul is referring to those practices that pagans do to honour their gods, King Pharaoh and king Herod.

Acts 12:21-22 & Galatians 4:8-11, Bros when will you begin to see clearly and reason well?

As usual you could not refute my points with facts and evidence.

DappaD:
First of, was it you I quoted that you replied me these three times? Why are you swallowing panadol for another person’s headache?



Because mourning is completely natural and common to all humans regardless of tribe, culture, language. Numbers 20:29, Ecclesiastes 3:4

Question is, what is natural about celebrating your birthday? Don’t you know that there are still ancient civilizations today where they hold feasts and make merry and mourn their dead since those are more like natural feelings common to all humans but never give importance to the day they were born? If the white men who invaded Africa didn’t tell you to place importance on your birthday, would you have cared? Don’t you also know that placing emphasis on your date of birth gives rise to astrology/horoscopes which are forms of spiritism that Satan is currently using to blind the eyes of billions? 2Corinthians 4:4

When you begin to hear someone say that because he or she was born in so-so month, then it means he is either shy, strong or intelligent etc making it look all fun and harmless but we know the real mastermind behind all of such(2Corinthians 2:11, 1Peter 5:8.) and all those engaging in spiritistic practices will never see God’s Kingdom. Galatians 5:19-21

That’s why there are a thousand and one things wrong with birthdays but the joy of downing Isi-ewu with Orijin has blurred your reasoning!




If weddings meant nothing to Jesus, why did he attend one(John 2:1) and use a similar scenario on a number of occasions in his parables and teachings? Matthew 22:1-14, 25:10, Luke 14:8
Why did Jesus not attend Herod’s birthday party or why did Jesus not make use of birthdays in his illustrations like he did with marriage ceremonies—you cannot even explain why a marriage feast is one of the important facets in Biblical prophecy. Revelation 19:7-9



Wait, I thought Barristter07 dealt severely with this topic of Romans 14:6, even using a Yoruba traditional feast(which I’m not familiar with) as an example? Paul was not referring to God-dishonouring celebrations after all there were many revelries and wild parties held on days set aside by pagans in Paul’s day but he warned Christians never to get involved with them(Romans 13:13) so the point you tried to make with Romans 14:6 is already dead on arrival.



The references below proves that even the first century Christians who saw Jesus live and direct were also JOKERS so we’re following in their footsteps. 1Corinthians 10:11

“During the Christian era, the early followers of Christ didn’t believe in celebrating birthdays, preferring—as was the case in earlier eras—of honoring one’s death. Their belief was that only in death was there true deliverance worthy of honoring one’s ‘death day’ [a reference to Ecclesiastes 7:1, where Solomon asserts that the day of one’s death is better than the day of one’s birth]. They also believed that Egyptian and Greek birthday celebrations were pagan festivals and should not be duplicated”—(“The Strange Origins of Our Modern Birthday Customs,” August 13, 2008).

“Nay, indeed, the law does not permit us to make festivals at the birth of our children, and
thereby afford occasion of drinking to excess.”—(Josephus. Against Apion, Book II, Chapter 26)



Please be civilized and stop using profanity because you’re intent on proving a dead point. Go and report to the congregation the person in question associates with and if your claim is found true, let’s see if his actions will be condoned(1Corinthians 6:18) or if he will be disciplined accordingly. 1Corinthians 5:12, Hebrews 12:11

You are comparing Apple to Oranges, what a dumb comparism.

Just like the pagans mourn and practice their pagan rites in mourning so also christains mourn but do it in a way acceptable to God.

Birthdays are celebrated with thanks giving to God not man for sustanance there is no more to it.
Only false Church like yours that seeks relevance attach thoughts or ideas of idol worship to birthday celebrations.

Why did Abraham throw a feast for Isaac turning 6months or there about when he was weaned?

Trying so had to claim what Jesus would have done and would not have done.

The bible is full of records of great men of God that there ages where recorded does that mean they are pagans?

In your next birthday curse God and commit suicide since there is nothing natural about been older.

You guys are real jokers.

Where all the feasts birthdays or you are trying to impose your lie?

John 16:21
Verse Concepts
Whenever a woman is in labor she has pain, because her hour has come; but when she gives birth to the child, she no longer remembers the anguish because of the JOY that a child has been born into World.

That Joy does not end at birth, It is joy to become older and fulfill ones destiny.

Janosky:
blueAgent, Yours is even more pathetic.
A Christian showing the World he is against Jesus @Matthew 28:20


You dey shout celebrate Christmas/birthdays upandan when you know @ Matthew 28:20 , Jesus Christ is against Christmas/birthdays celebrations.
Bros remove the rafters in your eyes.

I know your type, they claim not to celebrate birthday but commit a more gravious sin.

Janosky:
Ecclesiastes 6:3,Did your own Bible say the man who never hundred children celebrated annual birthdays of himself and his children?

Bros, you are a joker.
Continue twisting the holy Scriptures.

It obvious you cannot comprehend bible.

If you had sense you will know that the bible verse here is talking about how old or ones birthday.
Although not an alright or clear instruction on birthday.
We can see that Solomon the writer intended to say that a man should have joy and happiness as he counts his years.

"Days of his years"

Janosky:
The same Paul who admonished you to shun Christmas seasons/birthdays , "special days and seasons" of pagans. Galatians 4:8-11.

Whenever you prove your hypocrisy, Paul is not a hypocrite.
Neither would he pen by inspiration , according to your claim, two conflicting positions (@ Romans 14:6 & Galatians 4:8-11) on the same matter.
Do not esteem pagan practices as holy or special.
Clown

They are not conflicting only in your biased head that it is conflicting.
In Galatians 4:8 Paul is referring to those practices that pagans do to honour their gods, which covers a lot of things, even in mourning their dead there are practices that pagans do that are not godly.
Are we supposed to stop mourning becos pagans do it .


Roman's 14:6 talks about one choosing a day as been special unto God,, paul says one has the liberty to do that as long as it is with regards and honour to God.

Which day is more special to a man than his day of birth.
It was a thing of joy to be born and remains for how long the person lives.

No where do this two Bible verses contradict themselves, Paul is clear on what he says.

Only you and your people twist God's word to mean something it does not mean.

Abraham celebrated Isaac be weaned, I guess he committed and offence?

Janosky:
The same Paul who admonished you to shun Christmas seasons/birthdays , "special days and seasons" of pagans. Galatians 4:8-11.

Whenever you prove your hypocrisy, Paul is not a hypocrite.
Neither would he pen by inspiration , according to your claim, two conflicting positions (@ Romans 14:6 & Galatians 4:8-11) on the same matter.
Do not esteem pagan practices as holy or special.
Clown

No wonder you people are a joke.

Paul is referring to days, months, and seasons observed in honour of pagan gods not birthdays.

When one appreciates God for been a year old weather with feast or not , it is not a sin.

Only false Church like yours claims it is a sin.

Janosky:
Leviticus 18:3, Bros, back up your claim.
Can you name the Israelites who copied annual birthdays celebrations from the Egyptians?

Bros, is mourning a sin ?
@ John 11:35, Jesus mourned.
Did he celebrate Christmas?
@ Matthew 28:20, is Jesus against Christmas?

Bros, no dey DECEIVE yourself
.

Job's children did that.

Janosky:
Galatians 4:8-11, shun special days and seasons of pagans, such as annual birthdays celebrations and Christmas seasons.

Matthew 28:20, teaching them to OBEY ALL THE THINGS I have command.

Na you go set the rules for the exam the Great Teacher give you ?

How come Reno Omokri found out the truth about Christmas & all of you are here DECEIVING yourselves ?

Ecclesiastes 6:3 If a man beget an hundred children, and live many years, so that the days of his years be many, and his soul be not filled with good, and also that he have no burial; I say, that an untimely birth is better than he.

achorladey:
Loool! We have 365 Pharoah days occupying the 365 days of the year and 366 days in case of leap year.

Indeed they are created for Pharoahs and by Pharoahs.

This guys are jokers. I have one in my office would never join in birthday celebrations see it as sin, but can Bleep anything lockable.

Big time hypocrites.

DappaD:
However you want to put it, it is not supported by Scripture and was practiced by die-hard pagans. Genesis 40:20-22, Mark 6:21-29

I believe Barristter07 and Janosky have done justice to this subject already—explaining from the Scriptures and accurate historical records that the celebration does not originate with pure worship and hence does not please God so I need not bother myself explaining more.
The way you replied to me, is sort of sending the message that you need a “go-ahead” or an approval from the Witnesses? Okay so if they don’t agree with you, kasala don burst be that? Mark 7:5

Learn to read and understand before commenting.

Like Paul says in Roman 14:6 anyone can regard any day unto God as special be it your birthday or not but what matters is that in all, all Glory should be given only to God.
Romans 14:6 He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.

DappaD:
You want to make your own rules and use them as a standard to judge who? Me?
The first thing you should ask is, when did God ever institute a wedding ceremony? If he did not, then why did Jesus attend a wedding ceremony? John 2:1
Are you telling me that Jesus and his disciples were not aware of Herod’s birthday party? Matthew 14:6
So why weren’t they in attendance seeing that they regularly attended get-togethers? Mark 14:3, Luke 5:29



Leviticus 18:3a
“You must not behave as they do in the land of Egypt”
All the practices the Egyptians engaged in, the Israelites were NOT to imitate including birthdays. Genesis 40:20-22



No problem. It was those 8 men in New York who put Genesis 40:20-22 and Mark 6:21-29 in your Bible.

That's why you people are jokers, no one takes JW seriously.
If this refers to birthday, then why do the Israelites mourn knowing that the Egyptians that they lived with also mourn the dead?

DappaD:
You want to make your own rules and use them as a standard to judge who? Me?
The first thing you should ask is, when did God ever institute a wedding ceremony? If he did not, then why did Jesus attend a wedding ceremony? John 2:1
Are you telling me that Jesus and his disciples were not aware of Herod’s birthday party? Matthew 14:6
So why weren’t they in attendance seeing that they regularly attended get-togethers? Mark 14:3, Luke 5:29



Leviticus 18:3a
“You must not behave as they do in the land of Egypt”
All the practices the Egyptians engaged in, the Israelites were NOT to imitate including birthdays. Genesis 40:20-22



No problem. It was those 8 men in New York who put Genesis 40:20-22 and Mark 6:21-29 in your Bible.

You are the biggest clown I have ever seen.

You mean if he was not invited he would have gone to Herod birthday?
How does that prove that birthday is wrong?
Was it all wedding feast that Jesus attended?

Except for turning water into wine, the story of Jesus attending a wedding feast would not have been mentioned and false teachers like you will claim it is wrong to have wedding feast.

KNOWMORE56:
To me be happy, rejoicing with friends for additional, unmerited year added to one's years remains the greatest celebration after our redemption.

True.

Righteousness2:
You can as well say JESUS Christ is still in grave.
You Can as well as say thief at the cross whose Eternal Destination was changed in the last minute was a Parable or Fairy tale!

You Can as well say Stephen whose spirit was received to Heaven was a Parable!

Continue Deceiving yourself!
When you Cross over, you will know First Hand..

Quoting bible without facts or evidence.
The bible is clear that Jesus was resurrected after 3days in the grave.
The Bible also tells us that the saved theif and other dead saved people will be resurrected on the 2nd coming of Jesus .

Your problem and many others is that they are too proud and feel un teachable God hate such people with passion that's why he instructs us to be like little Children.

You can click and read all your arguments are answered there.

https://www.nairaland.com/5704487/what-goes-heaven-hell-it


https://www.nairaland.com/5520177/man-satan-immortality

https://www.nairaland.com/5667107/why-there-resurrection

MaxInDHouse:
It's OK now!
I can see that you know and understand the Bible you just feel like asking questions on Birthday!

Answer the question,

MaxInDHouse:
You are not confused yet you're coming on social media to ask if you can celebrate your birthday shey?
Quantinu!

I never asked,I was 100% sure just named the thread that

danowena:
You are very right. First hand experiences have shown me that these mature virgins are worse than those who take "dik" , they give the best blow - jobs because in trying to compensate for the "no sex", they have perfected the art of sucking the rod. They also do stuffs that the disvirgined ones will fear to do. Two of the so called virgins actually taught me Anal. So tell me, having Anal sex and having virginal sex, which is more decent?
Some of these ladies are now married and their husbands will probably think they have married a novice in bed matters not knowing these ones have PhD.

Having sex in any form weather anal or virginal has already disqualified one from parading herself as virgin.

Her dressing does not even look like that of a virgin or a decent girl.

Righteousness2:
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Awake from slumber and Long Epistles. Stop giving the Bible your own interpretation. Take GOD'S Word Just the way you see it. GOD is not a Joker! Man is the Joker!

It is Appointed to men once to die and after that the Judgement.

The Richman and Lazarus is not a parable! Abramham is not a Parable .
Eternity Matters is not what u Deceive yourself with grammar!
If you Have Ears to Hear, you can hear!

If after all the points and facts i gave in that article cannot explain the truth to you, then You are far from your bible, you read it with no understanding.

If Abraham and Lazarus are both in Heaven and Hell respectively.
Then explain to me why God's word says the wicked are reserved till the day of judgement?


2 Peter 2:9 The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:

And the same God's word says God has reserved a day not days to judge the World in righteousness.

Acts 17:31 Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.

We also told that the wicked will die the second death in Hell fire.
Just like Sodom and gomorrah were destroyed with eternal fire.

2 Peter 2:6 And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly; Jude 1:7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

Mr I sabi all is Sodom and gomorrah still burning?


Your type only profess Bible with mouth but are far from Heaven.

If you cannot understand God's word and you feel too proud to learn than what business do you have with Heaven?

Mr I too know

UsmanFodio:
Oga, if you die, the next time you will rise is on the judgment day.

Whether now or later, I can't really say for sure. But just know that After death comes judgement. Any other thing that moves the earth with such persons face is either the spirit of God that came to deliver a message or the messenger of Devil that came to torment the living until some certain rites or ritual are done

That's true.

But I hope you know Hell is not for eternity as is been preached?

DappaD:
Children are a special present from God(Psalm 127:3) so when a child is born, the parents rejoice just as they would when receiving gifts.

But like has been said, there is no Scriptural backup you can give in support of your birthday celebrations instead it’s using unrelated points so that it could be that you gave a word out.



The highlighted is where because the line is drawn because it is tied with false worship(Genesis 40:20-22) and there is absolutely nothing natural about continuously celebrating the day one is born after his birth. In fact, regarding the anguish and suffering humans go through(Romans 5:12), it is rightly expected that one curses the day he was born and not rejoice over it(Job 3:1) so again, there is nothing natural about celebrating one’s birth.

No one celebrates the day he was born, rather people thank God that day for making it possible for them to see one year added to their life.
Of course a year in a mans life automatically starts from the day he was born.

MaxInDHouse:
My friend, Jesus quoted the laws God gave to the nation of Israel to an Israelite telling him that it's what will lead him to identify Jesus' role as the Messiah.
Jesus' commandment totally differs from the laws God gave the Israelites through Moses.
The Mosaic laws were written in scrolls with ink but Jesus' commandments were written in the hearts of his disciples! Jeremiah 31:33-34
I can see that you've been calling the name "JESUS" in vain without knowing the role Christ played in the salvation of mankind.
The laws God gave the Israelites was targeted at helping that nation to be the first and foremost race to benefit from the coming of Christ not the requirements for everlasting life, otherwise if those laws are what mankind need then there is no need for Jesus to come and establish another covenant! Jeremiah 31:31-32

You are more confused than I thought.

So Jesus came to give a different law from that God gave the Israelites.
The same Jesus that said he has not come to destroy the law and prophets.

Was the New covenant without a law or not?