₦airaland Forum

kalu61:
Yes, it's based in Nigeria. Africa in particular.


Why should l delete it?

You think African culture is morally superior to western culture?
You are a learner you barely know anything about both cultures

WoundedLamb:
I do not know you (not disrespect intended, I just don't remember usernames) but if you knew me well enough to have called my attention to this thread, then you probably also know I'm not just a freedom advocate (or "LGBT apologist" if you prefer that) but also a Canadian. Here, it's not always a You vs Us. Most times, people are divided based on personal opinions and not necessarily based on stuff like origine, religion, gender, sexual orientation, etc. In other words, this is a controversial issue even within the LGBTQ community here in Canada. Contrary to your take, transgendering does not necessarily "help" the gay sub-community (sometimes, it does the opposite) and there's nothing like an attempt to increase the LGBTQ populace. The LGBTQ community does not need population and Canada will gain nothing by trying to increase the number of gay people in a country begging for population. You need to begin to understand that the LGBTQ struggle is that of survival and nothing more. The gay kid in the streets of Lagos does not care about any agenda or conspiracy theory, he just wants to live!

Now about the case: a 14 year old kid can't just walk into a hospital and ask doctors to carry out such an extensive therapy on her and they'd do it. She neither has the financial resources nor the power. The law says a child of that age must get the consent of her parent or parents as the case may be (depending on whether they are still together). And even at that, a historical record and psychological analysis must be carried out to ascertain if truly the kid has masculine dispositions. In this particular case, the records show the kid has always been more masculine than feminine and the mother consented to it. The father opposed and took the case to the court. However, since the parents are already separated and the mother has custody of the child, the Supreme Court ruled that her consent was enough. The man was asked to adopt the kid's preferred pronoun (which he never did). Again, well within his rights, he took the case to the court of appeal. While this was going on, he was ordered not to divulge the identity of the daughter, wife and medicale personnel involved in public to avoid exposing them to the associated trauma of such publicity. For privacy reasons, the court also emphasized that he must not allow relevant documents (petitions, affidavits, letters, court orders, etc.) to come into the hands of third parties not “authorized by order of this court,” or with “written consent” from his daughter. But he dared the law, went online and let it all out. He was charged and he went ahead to do it again. He wasn't just arrested cause of the pronoun.

I did not tell you this to sway your opinion (I'm not in full support of the judgment myself). I just wanted to show you where the actual divide is. It is not a straight people vs gay people thing. Some argue that letting him go after daring the Supreme Court of Canada would set a terrible precedence. According to them, the man would have continued the fight within legal means. He could have gone ahead to appeal the court order. On the other hand, others argue that both parents should consent before such a therapy is carried out on a minor regardless of whether they're separated or not. They also believe the court order was unfair. Then we have the last group who believe a kid of that age should never undergo such a therapy regardless of the parents' consent. These three groups can be found even within the gay community.

Do you know that a couple of years ago Homosexuality was called a mental illness by American psychologists association even till today?
Years past people with such doubts would have recieved treatments and counselling till they overcome such challenges, which would have been better considering the fact that over 80% of them who undergo surgery to transgender often regret it later in life.

The movement to promote gay rights is one beyond the fight for human rights, the ones behind such agenda(The Elites NWO) have different motives than the advocates and liberals who are just naive foot soldiers.

Brokeloser:
As bad as Nigeria is this rubbish can never happen here walai.Them no born you well to try this rubbish with Nigerian parents and the fvckery of it all the dad was taken to court.Wtf is wrong with these white people

The same way they gradually enforced it in the west so also they will achieve it here by threatening sanctions on nations that do not pass laws to allow transgender and forbid parents from interfering.

slowice:
This is becoming unbecoming

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advanceDNA:
Hypocrites.....

These white people say minors can’t give consent to sex....but think it’s okay for them to decide on something serious like gender change that isn’t reversible and is likely regretible...as young as age 7....children are taking hormone blockers... and their parents don’t have a say...

These politically correct nonsense is just a desperation to validate and increase the LGBT populace .....it’s irritating, it’s reckless, and it’s starting to become annoying ...


...woundedlamb...u are an LGBT apologist...what do u have to say..

It's all part of a bigger agenda , which most liberals and people do not know.
NWO.

kalu61:
"“Here I am, sitting there as a parent, watching a
perfectly healthy child be destroyed, and there’s
nothing I can do but sit on the sideline"

“They’ve now created a delusion, and they’re
forcing parents, like myself, to live in this
delusion,”

‘Why did none of you do anything to stop this? I was a child. None of you stuck your neck out for me back then.’” “When my daughter asks me that question, I’ll say, ‘I did everything that I possibly could,”

When it comes to moral upbringing, My culture is still the best. A society that accepts everything will one day end up in chaos.

The father should accept it in good faith like Okukpe. At least he has done his part as a father.

It's not easy as a father to give up like that.

BRATISLAVA:
But they also claim they were all born gay. Very contradictory statements in their community.

That's are lie, no one was born gay, it's a habit they picked up.
I have seen gays who were victims of abuse why young, I have also seen adults who turned gay as a result of influence from gay friends.

Canada: Man Jailed for Calling His
Daughter a Girl
 Snake Baker  March 19, 2021.

This reporter was also fined for calling the girl a girl
Consent Theory got a total overhaul with the “children can consent to puberty blockers” thing.
They can also consent to not consenting to their fathers not consenting.

Breitbart:
A Canadian father has been arrested for
“misgendering” his own 14-year-old child by
calling her his “daughter,” and referring to her
with the pronouns “she” and “her.”
Robert Hoogland — the father of a 14-year-old
biological female who identifies as transgender
and prefers male pronouns — was found in
contempt of court and jailed on Tuesday after
repeatedly calling his child his “daughter,” despite
the court forbidding it, according to a report by the
Post Millennial.
The Attorney General of British Columbia
reportedly issued a warrant for his arrest for
contempt.
Rob Hoogland was just taken to jail.
His crime? Trying to protect his little girl from
medical harm.
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Hoogland is opposed to his teenage daughter
going through transgender-related medical
procedures, and has repeatedly expressed his
opposition in the hopes of saving his child from
irreversible damage.
The Canadian medical system, the legal system,
and the child’s mother, however, have gone
forward with the “social and medical transition” of
Hoogland’s daughter, the report adds.
In December of last year, Hoogland was mandated
by British Columbia Supreme Court Justice
Francesca Marzari to cooperate in the
“transitioning” of his daughter’s sex, and was told
not to refer to her as female again.
…
Hoogland had previously discovered that his
daughter’s school had been showing her sexual
and gender identity education materials known as
“SOGI 123,” which the report referred to as
transgender “propaganda videos.”
By the 7th grade, the school had changed his
daughter’s name in the yearbook without telling
her parents, and “socially transitioned” her with
the input of gender ideologue psychologist Wallace
Wong, who advised the pubescent child to take
testosterone.
The report adds that Wong referred Hoogland’s
daughter to the endocrinology unit at the local
hospital, and that a “treatment” plan was put into
action on her first visit.
“Here I am, sitting there as a parent, watching a
perfectly healthy child be destroyed, and there’s
nothing I can do but sit on the sideline — and
according to Justice Boden at the time, cheer it
on,” Hoogland said in an interview last year. “I can
only affirm, or get thrown in jail.”
See: if he doesn’t consent to her consent, that is against her
consent, which is a crime.
Consent Theory is a tricky beast, which no man may master.
Justice Boden of the British Columbia Supreme
Court had reportedly declared that Hoogland and
his wife had to affirm their daughter’s new gender
identity. Hoogland was told that if he tried to
dissuade his daughter or refer to her as a female,
then he would be considered guilty of “family
violence.”


After the ruling, Hoogland gave an interview to the
Federalist, in which he lamented the situation, and
pointed out that his daughter is biologically
female.
After that, Justice Marzari reportedly signed a
“protection order” authorizing the police to arrest
Hoogland if he were to again be caught referring
to his daughter as female, or with female
pronouns.
Hoogland said that the Marzari ruling even stated
that he was allowed to “think thoughts” that were
contrary to the Boden ruling.
“The court was gracious enough to say that they
could not police my thoughts,” Hoogland said.
Who consented to that?
In January of last year, the highest court in British
Columbia reportedly declared that the child should
continue taking testosterone, and imposed a
“conduct order” on Hoogland, mandating that he
continue referring to his daughter by male
pronouns.
“They’ve now created a delusion, and they’re
forcing parents, like myself, to live in this
delusion,” Hoogland said last year. “And then what
happens when the bubble explodes, and the
delusion ends?”
“She can never go back to being a girl,” he added.
“I mean, she’ll always be a girl, but she’ll never
go back to being a girl in a healthy body that she
should have had — she won’t be able to have
children, she won’t have a family. These kids
don’t understand what this stuff means.”
An estimation of more than 80 percent of children
with gender dysphoria will end up desisting from
their belief that they are the opposite sex once
puberty is over.
“What kid who’s 13 is thinking about a family and
having children? Not many,” Hoogland continued.
“What kind of father would I be if, let’s say in
five, ten years, my daughter is de-transitioning,
and she turns to me and says — ‘Why did none of
you do anything to stop this? I was a child. None
of you stuck your neck out for me back then.’”
“When my daughter asks me that question, I’ll
say, ‘I did everything that I possibly could,” he
added.


We are really living in a crazy world.


https://dstormer6em3i4km.onion.ws/canada-man-jailed-for-calling-his-daughter-a-girl/

Gsentme:
It baffles me that this generation don't still understand this saying (leaders of tomorrow). Incase you don't know "leaders of tomorrow" starts from 70 years and above. So if you have not gotten to 70, brother/sister forget the seat. Nah advice i give..

Lol.....laugh no fit kill me.

sammirano:
America elites knows the game they played. They wanted a female president that could not be achieved at the ballots.

Your 3rd eye they open.

NWO

jacoik:
see fresh brest and wet toto wey full everywhere and this disgusting things will want to be digging dry and hard bone. honestly this gay of a thing has a spiritual angle to it because it not ordinary

No be small.

osuofia2:
How are i wish all Gays can be sent to hell while on earth, i have asked my self a question that what is attractive in my fellow man's ass. Gays are disgusting. if you are Nairaland Gay i say Fukk you

True.

But some of them are victims of abuse when they were young, it takes divine grace for such not to grow up been gay.
God have mercy.

doxijaw:
This is why I became a conservative & an anti liberal.

Liberalism preaches liberty and freedom of expression.

It even goes as far as trying to defund the police.


This ideology isn't progressive , it's perverse.

The lack of societal guidance, structure, ethics, strict moral codes and standards is the result of what we are witnessing today.

We had it somewhat before God concept was banished into oblivion by evolutionary science but the God void has left us with emptiness only to be led by agendas and social indoctrination.

Untamed, what you get is chaos!!!

An animal farm with unintended consequences.

On point. That's the agenda of NWO, if you know what am saying.

bubudeen:
Nigeria is a huge SCAM that needs to end ASAP! OBJ sold those refineries in 2007. Some thieves went to deceive Yar'adua to reverse the sale that OBJ was selling our commonwealth to his friends. Between 2007 and now none of the refineries have worked, hundreds of billions of dollars have been spent on the refineries without producing any fuel, Turn around maintenance, paying staff for doing nothing etc! The word fraud should be replaced with Nigeria. Now another 1.5b USD will be spent on a moribund refinery! This is same country that has no quality hospitals, no good schools, poorly funded police. Cursed be Lord Lugard and his generation for bringing this evil on us!

Is it Lord lugard that signed the 1.5billion dollars or is he responsible for our misappropriation?

plaindealer:
You came up with this because you are a refinery construction contractor, engineer, or just a layman saying layman things?

$1 Billion can not build a 210,00 barrel refinery, not 2 billion, not 3 billion and not even 4 billion.






Similar capacity like the one in PH. That's $12 billion for a 230/BPD refinery.

$1 billion to get a 210/BPD refinery up and running is money well spent.

Many of you think you know more than the FG because you hate the FG or you think everything you see is corruption, but they actually know more than you and you actually don't know anything.

All refinery are not the same.
The average cost of an oil refinery per barrel is $25000.

That money can be used to build a new 25000bbl refinery.

The best option would have been for the government to sale those refineries, in US there are refineries that are over 50yrs old, the problem with Nigeria an refineries is not age but corruption and mismanagement.

Another over bloated scam by this useless government

saasala:
Some nitwits who believe in juju and all sort of rubbish will come here and say thrash.

Dude is just reacting to drugs. He go soon dey alright.

Naivety at it's best.

Asianjollof007:
You dey mind them? You better leave them before they call you a racist.

True

chamboy:
Another one with PSTD, you need help

I don't exchange words with people who have average IQ of 45

wackpoet:
Black man and inferiority complex. Shame on you brother

You have a problem, like most blacks everything is seen from the lens of racism.

The guy stated the obvious based on their complexion he never said black was bad, is like two fat people or couple getting married and someone insinuates that their children will be fat, does that mean the person is faticist if there is any word like that or that the person is saying been fat is bad?

saggis:
Nigeria has always been safer. Even in the North. Boko Haram is a specialist terrorist organization concentrated in a particular region known to all. Stay away from their area of operation and you will be safe.

America is the champion of senseless killings. Killings not motivated by hunger. The rowdiness and disorderly manner of Lagos gives one the feeling of being unsafe, but the fact is that Lagos is safer than New York, LA or Chicago.

In your dreams.

What happened to the cult clash and killings in Lagos?

darkwan:
i tut soo....

you are very stvpid....indeed a moroon....!!

You are a big fool if you don't know the answer to your own useless riddle.

Am not surprised you do not read much.

A Russia proverb says that the friend of my enemy is also my enemy.

Low IQ is inherent in you.

darkwan:
i tut soo....

you are very stvpid....indeed a moroon....!!

Is that how you prove your intelligence?

Is that how you hide your shame?

I guessed right, that your IQ level borders that of a retard you did not fail my guess.

darkwan:
you....??

okay....let me test you....
the enemy of my enemy is my....??

Friend.

But the truth is that you don't know your enemy.

SEGLIZ:
the little you know is all you know, the little I know is all I know, we both do well by expanding our horizons.
your understanding about MKO Abiola and the west is limited so I leave it at that.
you would have made your opinion count with insulting my personality and understanding. I don't respond to insult, you can do better to pass more the internet remain an abstract world.

Let me remind you that the West withdraw aid from Nigeria after IBB Nullified the Election it was still the west that mounted pressure on IBB to vacate power and give power to Interim leader with Hope's of restoring Democracy until Abacha snatched power.


https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/397331-democracy-day-mko-abiola-in-eyes-of-history-27-years-later.html

Show me how he was threat to Western Dominance?

darkwan:
i knew it....

their is a way that a black person talks and you immediatly know....

You craftly dodged to answer my question, should I see that as conceding defeat?

darkwan:
you are an example....

Yeah example of the ones with high IQ, clown

SEGLIZ:
the little you know is all you know, the little I know is all I know, we both do well by expanding our horizons.
your understanding about MKO Abiola and the west is limited so I leave it at that.
you would have made your opinion count with insulting my personality and understanding. I don't respond to insult, you can do better to pass more the internet remain an abstract world.

Is that all you can give as facts and evidence?

SegFault:
Guy you don't understand the dangers of monopolization, if other companies have the chance to spring up and start refineries won't there be more jobs? So if your dangote decides to let off a lot of people in the face of situations like this covid horseshit where would the jobs go to, this is why africa will remain backward; lack of foresight, if you can't see this you are either a sycophant or a blind person.

Most of them think like retards.

It's sad but the truth.

chamboy:
Bro, Nairaland doesn't deserve your input. You sabi die. Me and you are on the same wavy level. See how US wanted to Boycott 5G deployment by ZTE and Haiwee Chinese Company because they know how it'll boost China Economy.

You see why most of you are not bright in reasoning.

The same China that had trade surplus with US for years.
So when US takes actions to protect there economy it becomes a crime.

Most of you reason like kids who lack basic elementary education.

SEGLIZ:
how old were you during the 'HOPE 93' saga and struggle (I come in peace)?
the same they silenced MKO Abiola is about playing out already. Dangote is more of a threat to the west than you and I.
the rate at Dangote and is like are industrialising the nation would cripple the west and it's business interests in Africa (just get that clear). usa can't afford any African nation or nations go the way of Asia or China. as at the time Nigeria established the television and radio station in Africa the entire Asian Continent never a single box set of a chrome or a black and white tv but today we have the 'Asia Tiger' business block, China the lone ranger, etc.
Dangote is our own headache not theirs as such we will deal with him in our own terms not theirs. we can't afford to go the way of 1993, delivering like we did MKO. the gap is still the we are still leaking our wounds.
forget the regional wahala, na our own internal issues be that nobi one the few industrialist wey we get dem for target now. why were they after the owner of airpeace? innoson, proforce are doing us proud let us protect them.

Clown cripple the west!!! Joker.
California alone has a GDP almost equivalent to that of the entire African continent.

Abeg talk with sense.