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Crackow12:
When I see some comments on this thread, I jez laugh... Shouting Igbo Amaka!!!! If the Swedes were as tribalistic (not to talk of being as racist) as you were, would that guy become the president?

We really need to fix our ideology.

True.

[quote author=wwwihy post=100119029]What is good about Sweden... Sweden is one of the poorest country in Europe[/quote]You do not know what you are saying.

I disagree with this writeup ,Jeff Bezos keeps on average 5% of his wealth as cash. That's about 8billion dollars
More than 3 times the net worth of Mayweather.

https://nairametrics.com/2020/12/12/world-richest-man-jeff-bezos-holds-5-of-his-wealth-in-cash/

advanceDNA:
So...??

I said trans folks should learn to love themselves the way they were created and not use chemical and surgeries to change their bodies in order to fit into mere social constructs....so how is that advocating it supporting......i even said the goverment shouldn’t support what they do... so me I don’t understand ur comprehension capacity.....mayb u are not reqding my text as a whole...

Maybe I mistook you for wondedlamb but your writeup was sentimental towards trans genders, especially when you said they should love who they are.

Its your fault not mine.

njelrapheal:
So because of a feeling which over time say 10 years that a person can possibly outgrow will stir up a strong need to transgender. Because he feels like being male. Or female. What about the gene. Why don't they go ahead and change it too . I believe the stereotypes you painted of ideal men or women are actually what the feminists or an equal society should fight against. I mean it's ok not to like football as a guy or behave in certain ways which over time are sure to change and still be a man. You see, assigning a gender based on feelings or as in some cases based on some diagnosis, only serves to make such a person feel good for the time being. What then happens when that feeling changes.

Perfect.

The fact that they are forcing children to take such decisions before they are mature enough to know right from wrong is appalling.

I read in one article that in a week over 40 children under the ages of 10 lineup in front of a doctor office in UK to undergo transgender treatment.
It's crazy.

advanceDNA:
So...??

I said trans folks should learn to love themselves the way they were created and not use chemical and surgeries to change their bodies in order to fit into mere social constructs....so how is that advocating it supporting......i even said the goverment shouldn’t support what they do... so me I don’t understand ur comprehension capacity.....mayb u are not reqding my text as a whole...

Are trans created that way?
Or if should rephrase it did God create trans that way?

advanceDNA:
U have comprehension problem....mayb u should bring out the text you read that shows I support gender reconstruction

It's amazing how you can lie in broad daylight.

WoundedLamb:
You see the first part in bold? That's all that matters. You can't know about the history and struggles of someone whom you only had to tolerate cause you had no choice. Such a person would never have you as a confidant regardless of how many years you live together. You have to connect with people to know them. I'm not trying to invalidate your experience but it just doesn't fit in here. I asked you a question "how many gay people do you have as close friends or as family members open to you?" Sincerely speaking, do you really think your room mate counts? Africans aren't open minded towards gay people. You hate them even before meeting one for the first time. They hide from you and when you eventually find out, you think you know enough about them to tell them what made them gay? It doesn't work that way.

The people you know became straight? Brother, the fact that you don't even know the gay people around you is enough to tell you wouldn't know if or when someone's sexual orientation changes. It's not written on the face and it's not a function of whom you're sleeping with at the moment. Sexuality goes beyond sex (this is one thing people don't understand). Like I said to someone above, sexuality is about the deep emotional connection you have with someone. Anybody can sleep with anyone. Straight people sleep with men for money, gay people sleep with women to cover up. But a gay man can never love a woman the way he loves a man just like you can never love a man the way you love a woman.

@second_bolded_part, actually what you said was that it has been proven nobody was born gay. Thanks for peddling it down a bit. Tell me more about gay people when you have them as friends. Otherwise, your assumptions made from a distance will remain all you've got.

You have already invalidated my experience with your argument, which one is connect with them?
Do I have to sleep with gay or turn gay before I understand what they go through?
The friends and family who are gay that you know, did they say they were born that way?
If not what lead them to gayism?
You say sexuality is a deep emotional connection you have with someone, ironically you are still saying what I said before, that this is a psychological issue and should be treated as one, it is not a medical or natural occurrence what kind of emotion would cause a man to feel sexual urge for his fellow man?Does that sound normal?

You can show me proofs that people are born gay.

What is even love?


In the case of my roommate I discovered that he was abused in the Seminary school, an all boys school he attended.

advanceDNA:
They should learn to love themSelves....

If a man loves lipsticks, dresses, and gowns, cleavage tops...that’s fine..yeah he may look a little weird... but what’s the big deal??..these things are all social construct invented by someone or companies....any gender can like them...

If a man truly feels like a woman inside...then it shouldn’t be about havingn b00bs or long hair, or wearing dresses...some women don’t even have boobs or wear dresses or do socially acceptable women things....

These people are just confusing desire for social constructs with being a particular gender. Then reconstruct their anatomy to fit in with the social constructs.....becos Ideally a man who feels like a woman inside is technically gay; i.e., attracted to men... meaning when he fully cuts off the pen!s he’ll start having sex with men...(correct menif I’m wrong)

All I see here are humans allowing environment drive them crazy..

And you also wrote this.

advanceDNA:
But u agree all of these so called girl things and boy things are socially engineered..?.they are not laws ...so what’s the point of conforming to ideas that change everytime..

Furthermore, what if someone is effeminate?? I’ve never heard that being a crime or irritating....yes... people bully and make fun of people ....come on...that’s every where, people even bully other for being brilliant, pretty, etc....

like I said people are just allowing the environment mess with them and instead of the government helping them get the care they need, they allowing them go through the long horrible road of chemical/blade anatomy reconstruction ...and now we have kids and minors who know nothing on this boat

Because really, I don’t see how gender reconstruction is the solution to being bullied or not liking boy or girl things...



And I disgrace with you on ur first line...self love and confidence is supposed to be a personal decision....Dady and mummy might cheer you, fri mds my tell you what you want to hear .....th decision to be happy is still yours

But you wrote this?

Is it that you don't understand what Advocacy means or what?

advanceDNA:
U are asking me.??..is that not the one of questions we’ve been asking the LGBT people since they allow a man to just wake up and say he identify as female and start participating in female sport...

You advocate for them ,so you probably will have a solution to such Dilemma.

WoundedLamb:
First, I'm sorry for your ordeal. I can only imagine how much impact that must have had on you as an adult.

You see, your personal path of being abused as a kid and possibly getting addicted to se.x at some point in your life doesn't necessarily mirror the life pattern of gay people. As a matter of fact, viewing the gay struggle through the lenses of your personal experience as a non gay person is the reason behind most straight people's dispositions towards the gay community. We unempathetically judge them by heterosexual standards.

If you can recall, my question was "how many gay people do you have as close friends or as family members open to you?" Yes, you mentioned you had a gay room mate back in school. But you used the words "unknown" and "unfortunately" and that tells a tale about your experience. Those two words sharply contrast with the ones in bold in my question above. "Unknown" means he wasn't open to you (not surprising seeing how they aren't accepted) and "unfortunately" means it wasn't a good experience and you guys aren't close anymore. Sorry, I fail to see how this would give you an insight into the life a gay person. People open to friends and confidents. To really know about gay community, you'd have to have some of them as friends who confide in you. Otherwise, all you'd get would be assumptions or things said by people in distress.

Like I said, gay people aren't people who suffered terrible childhoods. Gay people are found in every environment; within the rich, the poor, the isolated, the socialized, the well-treated, the ill-treated, the blacks, the whites, the religious, the irreligious, the intelligent, the dumb, etc. It is a sexual orientation just like being straight.

You don't get my point.

I was roommate with this guy for close to 2years, I had to tolerate this becos of constraints on my part financial.

And he was 4years ahead of me.

So you saying I do not know them well is illogical.

Its unfortunate becos I never knew about his sexual orientation till we became roomates.

Do you know that none gays can become gay later in life as a result of influence and psychological disorientation.

5years after school I still had fear that I could turn gay, it was a serious physcological battle.
So you cannot claim I don't have experience of having gay friends.

I have seen gays who have turned away from it and become straight , married with children. So it can been done.

Like I said before there is no prove medically that people are born gay neither is it a variation as you claim.
Over 80% of the gays I have seen all suffered from one form Of sexual abuse or physical abuse.
Other causes might not be sexually in nature, it could be low self worth, poor self esteem, bullying while in school, mental issues, depression and many others,

They are all habits picked up as one grows.

kalu61:
I must commend you for your interlectual insights. However, l don't don't have the strength now to start arguing which culture is better which will forever remain subjective and l concluded by saying for me, my culture is better. End of argument because l knew how it will end.


But just like l said earlier. You can argue if you want. A society that accepts everything will one day end up in chaos. Not physical chaos but moral chaos.

True a society that accepts everything will end up in chaos.

But the Western society did not willingly accept this changes and trends likewise when it will be done in Africa too.

This trends were craftly brought into those society using intimidation and media.

WoundedLamb:
First, we have gay animals. So many of them. A little Googling is all you have to do. Yes, humans are either male or female, nobody argued that. Even gay people are either male or female. Sexual orientation doesn't change people's gender. We aren't talking about gender variation but variations in sexual orientation. Nature is known for variation. No aspect of nature (not even day and night) is without variation. So what makes you think it’s possible for more than 6 billion people on earth to be born straight? No, bro, hat's not how nature works.

You think gay people have troubled past or you know this for sure? How can you be home and propose theories about people you've refused to even associate with? How many gay people do you have as close friends or family members who are open to you? You see, the problems in Africa is you guys use brute force against anything you aren't used to. You don't associate with gay people, you don't befriend, accommodate or tolerate them but you think you know their history more than those of us in the western world who dine with them, accept them, talk with them and hear their stories? I've been living here all my life, I have childhood friends, school mates, colleagues, clients, etc. who are gay and I'm telling you authoritatively that the majority of gay people had normal childhoods pre puberty. The only thing they suffered was the rejection and self hatred that came after they realized they were different.

As for the counselling part, read my response to the guy above. In summary, you aren't really any saner than they are.

Do you know that doctors have confirmed that biologically no one is born gay?

WoundedLamb:
Trapped in a body is an English expression and regardless of the choice of words you prefer, the fact is that some people are naturally effeminate and feel more comfortable doing girly stuff. I'm sure you know one or two of such people. What you call childish feeling is somebody else's life story. Empathy demands that we try to see things from other people's perspectives and appreciate our differences. You believe some people are born intersex only because it's physical.

You are not gay, you don't keep gay friends but somehow you can tell gay people how they were born. Isn't that really convenient? So everybody is born straight? Do you really think life is binary? Black or white, gay or straight, kind or wicked, etc? No, bro, nature is full of in-betweens. Sexuality is a spectrum, some people are gay, some straight and some bisexual. The thing is, you can't understand people you haven't even tried to accommodate. What you know about gay people is born out of sentiments. You were born in a society where being gay is frowned upon. You grew up with that and you'd probably stick to that even in the face of logic. But, at least, let them live. I'm sure that's not too much to ask for.

You don't even know me and you sound like you know.

I was abused when I was small barley 5years old by several ladies , I know what depression means, I know what sexual abuse and addiction means, unfortunately when I was in school in my year 1, I also had a gay room mate unknown to me.

All this were challenges I have faced, so when I say I know how gays act,am telling you from experience from a room mate.

I mirror my own struggles with the opposite sex with theirs since most are also product of sexual abuse while they were small, but I would not advocate that they should continue in such path when they can be changed for the better.

KillerBeauty:
Destroy present civilization ke.
This your conspiracy theory is too extreme.
And what exactly is a satanic norm?

I think it's just for population control jare

There are far more effective ways to reducing population than promoting LGBT.

You may call it conspiracy but the truth is that the Elites are working to eliminate this present World order inorder to usher in theirs.

Gay marriage, Pedophilia, Incest , hookup culture, Feminism, critical race studies, Evolution ,and others been promoted by the Elites are all Satanic norms.

Have you read the protocols of the Elders of Zion?

advanceDNA:
They should learn to love themSelves....

If a man loves lipsticks, dresses, and gowns, cleavage tops...that’s fine..yeah he may look a little weird... but what’s the big deal??..these things are all social construct invented by someone or companies....any gender can like them...

If a man truly feels like a woman inside...then it shouldn’t be about havingn b00bs or long hair, or wearing dresses...some women don’t even have boobs or wear dresses or do socially acceptable women things....

These people are just confusing desire for social constructs with being a particular gender. Then reconstruct their anatomy to fit in with the social constructs.....becos Ideally a man who feels like a woman inside is technically gay; i.e., attracted to men... meaning when he fully cuts off the pen!s he’ll start having sex with men...(correct menif I’m wrong)

All I see here are humans allowing environment drive them crazy..

Let me ask you a question, if a transgender female is arrested and sentenced to prison for any offence unrelated to their sex, which prison will be appropriate to put them? Is it a Male or female prison?

kalu61:
What you understand is up to you. Bye

I thought you would have shared more insights on what you know makes your culture morally better than western culture.

Mind you hundreds of years ago all this trends where unheard of in Western societies.

An aged whiteman once wrote that years ago it was unheard of a lady having baby outside wedlock in US, in Chicago and Switzerland I once read that you could not go to hotel to lodge with a woman without your marriage certificate to show she is your wife,

I have seen pictures of years ago where ladies going to the beach were turned back for wearing swimsuits that where revealing too much.

All this values and many more are gradually been eroded by the elites.

Like I said before culturally we are not better than them.

I can give you examples of some stupid immoral african cultures.

Go and read about Hyenas of Rwanda, not the animal own but human Hyena ,there are many more Bad African cultures which time will not permit me to mention.

Jman06:
Me I like that because it aids population control and allows people reach their potentials without any gender restrictions. It'll introduce variety into the world and make life more fun!

You think so?

Those behind it are intrested in total dominion over all humanity.

Mind you they say the road to Hell is lined with good intentions.

WoundedLamb:
Let's do this with an open mind, bro. Homosexuality was called mental illness and the earth was said to be flat. Yes, I believe you already know where I'm headed. You see bro, illness is defined as deviation from the normal state of health. Depending on what you call "normal state of health", virtually anything can be called an illness. If you believe that having melanin is the normal state of health, then being an albino is an illness. If you believe that being right handed is the normal state of health, then being left handed is an illness.

Another keyword in that definition is "deviation". What science calls an illness depends hugely on how the scientist differentiates the word "deviation" from the word "variation". Today, we believe humans have racial variations but if we had 6 billion known white people on earth with a few hundred known blacks, being black would have been a deviation and not a variation as we know it today. Again, if you had just 1 billion highly advanced and wealthy white people and even 100 billion blacks, race would still be a matter of variation. I'm just trying to point out that the words used to describe differences in nature aren't necessarily empirically decided. It's a function of visibility and numerical/social factors. These viewpoints do no really change the fact that some people are gay and need to live freely like all of us.

I believe we have every reason to acknowledge homosexuality as a form of human variation. Gay people aren't invalid neither permanently nor periodically. They aren't naturally distressed. They are many of them out there who are achievers in their fields. They are not harmful to society (extremely important). They are perfectly OK. It'll very unfair to call them sick people based on the opinion of some straight people. Calling them sick cause they are different is what led to the inhumane act of electroconvulsive therapy (electrically induced brain seizure) in Germany, corrective rape in South Africa, and other gruesome "treatments" they suffered in the past. It's a different story in Nigeria. I mean, who even criminalises sickness? Lol...

As for transgendering/hormonal therapies, I don't know where you pulled your "regret statistics" from. I'd say more on that if you give me a link. Please, I'm not doubting you. It's just that your statistics sharply contradicts the available data from the numerous surveys conducted in the past few years. There are two different transgendering procedures available today: surgical (GRS) and non surgical (hormone therapy), both of which are generally safe. We can have our opinions but it's not our duty to discriminate trans people who are making the most of the one lifetime they've got in a way that suits them. I don't know about NWO and I'm not pro gay cause someone asked me to be. I'm pro tolerance cause I know what discrimination looks like (homophobia, sexism, racisme, tribalism, xenophobia, classism, etc.). We don't need NWO to know that it's unfair to call the thousands of gay teens in Nigeria criminals. Thanks.

No, gay is not a human variation.

It's obvious that humans are either male or female this is the established natural order. Anything outside this is an anomaly.
Statistically and by nature Homosexuality is an anomaly Even animals do not behave like that how much more humans ,we been higher animals.

Am not advocating that gays should be prosecuted and imprisoned or hurt in any way, No , rather they should be counseled and encouraged to leave such lifestyle.


If you look at the histroy of all this gay and transgender you would find that they are victims of abuse, depression and low self esteem, all this can be dealt with.

You might not believe in the fact that there is a grand conspiracy globally to make things that are wrong look right.
That agenda is been promoted subtly before our eyes but many of those looking are not seeing.

I will send you links as soon as I get them.

bukatyne:
Let's keep watching and see.

Parents should guard and guide their kids well.

True

WoundedLamb:
In summary, yes.

The expression "trapped in a body", according to the medical dictionary is the feeling that one's gender is different from one's mind, heart and personality. A cute girl with visible jaw lines who is naturally inclined to engage in body building, play football, go on low cut, put on baggy trousers, fight, etc. may be feeling limited by her own body. She can't join the male team where she feels she belongs, she can't pull her shirt in public as she'd want to cause she has breasts to cover. She can't openly have a girlfriend in some places cause she's a girl. Such a person feels trapped in her own body. The fact that she has to be a man to live a fulfilled life implies she might never really be happy in life. The thought of this alone could lead to acute depression. This is where the option of transgendering comes in (for those who feel the need to).

In Nigeria, you have some extremely effeminate boys hated and bullied by thier mates. Even the adults aren't spared. They pretend not to care but many of them are very depressed. They cry at night and wish they weren't born. Some get suicidal. Yet, they can't change cause they don't even know what to change; they can't walk like your stereotypical men, speak like them or like football like they do. They are stuck in a life of perpetual sadness. But they can't transgender cause the same people that hate them also hate transgenders. It's like saying, "we won't let you be, we won't let you go". It's almost as if suicide is a better option.

Finally, I'd like to add that transgendering does not necessarily promote gay rights. If you feel attracted to fellow men and then you turn into a lady, you'll only end up reducing the gay visibility. This is not always the case but I just felt I should correct the impression. Thanks.

Cc: blueAgent

The word "trapped in a body" are all code words created by liberals and the elite to sell the sick perversion.

No one is born gay, even people born with both sex organs still don't act gay, most of them get treated and undergo surgery based on which sex the doctor has seen is more dominant, it was never based on some childish feeling of am a male when I have a pussy.

WoundedLamb:
In summary, yes.

The expression "trapped in a body", according to the medical dictionary is the feeling that one's gender is different from one's mind, heart and personality. A cute girl with visible jaw lines who is naturally inclined to engage in body building, play football, go on low cut, put on baggy trousers, fight, etc. may be feeling limited by her own body. She can't join the male team where she feels she belongs, she can't pull her shirt in public as she'd want to cause she has breasts to cover. She can't openly have a girlfriend in some places cause she's a girl. Such a person feels trapped in her own body. The fact that she has to be a man to live a fulfilled life implies she might never really be happy in life. The thought of this alone could lead to acute depression. This is where the option of transgendering comes in (for those who feel the need to).

In Nigeria, you have some extremely effeminate boys hated and bullied by thier mates. Even the adults aren't spared. They pretend not to care but many of them are very depressed. They cry at night and wish they weren't born. Some get suicidal. Yet, they can't change cause they don't even know what to change; they can't walk like your stereotypical men, speak like them or like football like they do. They are stuck in a life of perpetual sadness. But they can't transgender cause the same people that hate them also hate transgenders. It's like saying, "we won't let you be, we won't let you go". It's almost as if suicide is a better option.

Finally, I'd like to add that transgendering does not necessarily promote gay rights. If you feel attracted to fellow men and then you turn into a lady, you'll only end up reducing the gay visibility. This is not always the case but I just felt I should correct the impression. Thanks.

Cc: blueAgent

I don't advocate for homosexuals and transgender people to be hurt in anyway, rather they should receive counselling and support to enable them overcome that challenge, this method worked in the past, so while is the government not intrested in using such method. rather they gays are been celebrated and thrown on our faces ,while also brainwashing the children .

Jman06:
They're not infringing on his personal right because there's a state's law backing up their action.

Biased state law.

Everything in Western society is rigged against men inorder to favour women.
All is carefully been done to destroy western Christian civilisation.

Twelfthman:
Not surprise. It's part of the new world agenda. Excessive push if child right to the point that parent lost control of their kids and thus unable to teach, guild and discipline bad behaviors in their children. They won't let you teach your child about God. Now they trying to make these kids practices Satanism in school.
When family foundation is destroy. The world is thus destroyed.
This world is so mess up

Perfect.
They have gone as far as teaching 7 year olds in schools in Britain sex education and Masturbation.

bukatyne:
Hahahahahaha @ the last paragraph.

Someone who is not old enough to consent to sex or drink alcohol is 'old' enough to insist on the gender he/she is.

You can see the hypocrisy.

In US prostitution is illegal in virtual all 50states but pornography is legal and a big industry.

That will show you the level of deception.

bukatyne:
Are they not infringing on this father's right to call his child whom he donated X chromosomes for and born a girl 'his daughter'?

I wonder.

JovialJune:
We will be very much spared, even if it means starting from scratch in development cos of financial aids and other sanctions they'd most likely use as repercussion for not accepting the nonsense, we will not accept that kind of stupid lifestyle,

Sometimes I'm kind of grateful for how religious we are when stamping out foot down on certain things such as this, regardless of the few hypocrites and whatnot, it will work to our advantage in the long run, we can't allow/accept this rubbish gaskiya.

You really underestimate what is been done by the elites with regard to this issue.

We were not as religious as Europeans and westerners a couple of years ago but look were they are today.

Same thing is happening in Nigeria and Africa, Angola just passed laws that favour homosexuality.

Look at our music videos and see how sexuality is sold to the masses as a norm, it was not like this few years ago.

It will take time but it will likely happen.

kalu61:
You are responsible for what you understand. I said my culture is the best for me.

No, what you were insinuating is that African culture was better than Western culture.

When you say my culture, do you mean the one influenced by Christian values which is western or the one we had before colonization?

KillerBeauty:
What exactly is the bigger agenda and overall goal?
Is it population control?

Yes, but also to destroy present civilisation and society norms while ushering in there Satanic norms.

JovialJune:
What a pity, soon all.these western societies accepting rubbish for political correctness and so called individual rights, will soon implode on themselves very soon, the aftermath of the rubbish they keep accepting and adding to their laws, will bite their asses so bloody deep they'd all look for sane, safe havens to migrate to, and we all know it will be Africa, they should continue.

True,
But Africa would not be spared for too long from embracing such laws and culture.
You need to understand why and how this attitude and culture emerged and is celebrated in Western society, for you to know its impact on the World.

LordKO:
He was jailed for violating the Canadian SCJ, which is legally justified, the matrimonial law violation of his ethical and fundamental rights and beliefs notwithstanding, and not because of misgendering.

His main enemy is the skewed matrimonial law which has systematically destroyed the family system, no thanks to anyone who wittingly or unwittingly supports liberty without decorum or takes delight in evil.

True,
Most people do not understand that their is a battle of spiritual dimensions going on and is been waged on all humanity.
From feminism to rights for LGBTQ,BLM and fight against racism are all fronts for the elite to achieve their Satanic agenda.
You can search for the protocol of the elders of Zion.