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malvisguy212:
in NATURE, does your son is less human than you ? why do you believe that God who is a transcendence being can Exist as a Godhead ?

genesis1:26
Then God said, "Let us make mankind in
our image, in our likeness...

The verse say "US" and then went on to say "IMAGE" if God is three separate being, the verse should've say images.

Isaiah 6:8
Then I heard the voice of the
Lord, saying, "Whom shall I send,
and who will go for US?" Then I said, "Here am I.
Send me!"

The verse say "WHOM SHALL I SEND" (ONE
GOD) and the verse continue "WHO WILL GO
FOR US" (three personalities)

The Bible makes it abundantly clear that God exists as God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. However,these three persons are not three separate gods, but ONE GOD. This Trrinitarian concept of God might seem to be contradictory from a HUMAN
standpoint, but is perfectly logical from GOD'S EXTRADIMENSIONAL EXISTENCE. Anti-Trinitarian heresies elevate humans to the level of God or demote one or more persons of the Godhead to
non-God status. Don't fall into one of those traps!

Lies.

You just picked verse 8 of that chapter and left from verse 1 inorder to hide the truth.
For your information prophet Isaiah was the one who wrote that verse and it was him that told God to send him and not Jesus. God was the one speaking to Isaiah and the us there, was God referring to himself and his son.

For your information there is no where in the Bible that God the Father, God the son and God the Holyspirit is written.

solite3:
Jesus was the servant of God

Good.
So tell me how is the Servant equal to the master?

solite3:
does a snake give birth to a lesser snake?
Does a lion give birth to lesser lion?
If Jesus is God Almighty begotten son then Jesus is Almighty God.

I tire for your baseless argument.

Let's assume your father or my, was 30yrs when he gave birth to me or you in 25years time how old would you be and how old would your father be, are you two of the same age?

solite3:
Jesus is the begotten Son of God because of his relationship with the father.

So you mean the relationship is that of father and Son?

Janosky:
@1) Acts2:36, does Emusan believe it? Have you removed Acts of the Apostles from the holy Scriptures?
Acts 2:36, God his Father appointed him.
". Assuredly, therefore, let all the house of Israel know, that both Lord and Christ did God make him "
@2) John14:28 "You heard Me say, ‘I am going away, and I am coming back to you.’ If you loved Me, you would rejoice that I am going to the Father, because the Father is greater than I. "

John 7:33 "So Jesus said, "I am with you only a little while longer, and then I am going to the One who sent Me."
John 10:29 "My Father who has given them to Me is greater than all."
** Emusan, Lie, lie Pharisee. Your Jesus is the Father ,see your FICTITIOUS correlation. My Questions: If Jesus is the Father, John7:33, who is he going to be with? Can you go leave your place of dwelling and go visit yourself?
John14:28, Since he is the father,can Jesus be greater than himself?
John10:29, "my Father is greater than ALL, excludes who?
I'm not sorry I can't help you......

Lol......they will not respond you just exposed their fraud.

Maximus69:
Wow!

They're all suffering from the same kind of brain problem!

I remember one so called Pastor who kept hammering on just two words in one verse to condemn alcoholic beverages, but with my quotation which ran through three consecutive verses from the same chapter, oga Pastor said we should start reading from verse one to the end in order for him to be sure of the correlation. Whereas to support his claim he quoted just two words in one single verse. He never cared to check or even read through the complete verse to know if he's misapplying the words!

I have observed that most pastors and Bishops do not understand the Bible as they claim to, most of them are even more ignorant than there members.

malvisguy212:
I ask a simple question. your son calling you father , does it make your son a less human ? Jesus calling God His Father does it make Him less God ?

what make us human , god ? the Bible make it clear that our origin BEGINS with God, but to the son, His origin is UNKNOWN , the bible address it as the ANCIENT OF DAYS.

And does your son been human with you make him your equal in age and authority?

malvisguy212:
I ask a simple question. your son calling you father , does it make your son a less human ? Jesus calling God His Father does it make Him less God ?

what make us human , god ? the Bible make it clear that our origin BEGINS with God, but to the son, His origin is UNKNOWN , the bible address it as the ANCIENT OF DAYS.

Were is it written that Jesus is the ancient of Days?

solite3:
you are just going in circles

Why did the Bible say Jesus is the begetton son of God?

solite3:
Jesus be the only begotten Son of God is not a literal word.

at bolded, golden
God the father is not a higher God than Jesus did you see.
As for ther things you wrote, that is because we are human but God is not.
Like begat like
If the farher has no beginning then the son has no beginning. Fact!

Your argument is baseless.
Humans give birth to Humans, Lions give birth to Lions,Snakes give birth to snakes. it is logical for God to give birth to a God but that does not negate the fact that the one who gave birth to the other is older and greater than the one given birth to this is simple logic your trinity doctrine has beclouded your senses.

solite3:
Jesus humbled himself to that position.



Philippians 2:7
But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

Really.
You just picked the portion that suits your fantasy.
Let me ask you a question did God beget Jesus or not ?

solite3:
a servant or a master who is greater?

So who is the master and who is the Servant. God or Jesus,?

Maximus69:
Tell him to get different versions of the Bible and real Proverbs 8:22 with meditation.

Then let him come back and tell everyone that Adam had no beginning because it's written that he was also God's son! Luke 3:38

Then you'll hear much more worthless, useless and thoughtless logics from TRINITARIANS!

True, I bet you he will not respond becos it will expose him.

solite3:
Jesus be the only begotten Son of God is not a literal word.

at bolded, golden
God the father is not a higher God than Jesus did you see.
As for ther things you wrote, that is because we are human but God is not.
Like begat like
If the farher has no beginning then the son has no beginning. Fact!

Come and see logic.

johnw47:
poor tormented and blinded lying mumu of no understanding https://www.nairaland.com/5382917/trinity-doctrine-false-doctrine-it/7#81785581

Idiot I asked for Bible verse not narialand link Otodo.

solite3:
Jesus be the only begotten Son of God is not a literal word.

at bolded, golden
God the father is not a higher God than Jesus did you see.
As for ther things you wrote, that is because we are human but God is not.
Like begat like
If the farher has no beginning then the son has no beginning. Fact!

Really.
So Jesus was drunk when he said his father is greater than him and that his the beginning of God's creation?

Revelation 3:14 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;

John 14:28
You have heard Me say to you, 'I am going away and
coming back to you.' If you loved Me, you would rejoice
because I said, 'I am going to the Father,' for My Father is
greater than

John 5:30
I can of Myself do nothing. As I hear, I judge; and My
judgment is righteous, because I do not seek My own will
but the will of the Father who sent Me.

solite3:
Jesus humbled himself to that position.



Philippians 2:7
But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

Really, he humbled himself is that what greater mean in your dilect?

yusufyo:
Declaration of Rivers as Christian State-
To God Be the Glory!---by Umar Ibrahim Tafida

One of the most exciting news recently was a declaration by Gov. Wike of Rivers State in the presence of senior clergy men, that his state is a Christian state. Masha Allah.

Am happy that many men of God have shower praises to the governor for this ‘giant step’, including Pastor E. Adeboye.
I as a Muslim, wish to comment gov. Wike for this excellent pronunciation. Because as a Muslim, I will be more happy with a Christian state than a secular state.

However, after so much commendation and praises, those men of God should enlighten the governor and the entire state and the nation on how to run a Christian state according to the teaching of The Holy Bible.

A Christian state must be ruled according to the teachings of Holy Scriptures, this can be easily verified in the books of Romans 13:1-4, 1Peter 2:3, etc.

Below are some strict Biblical rules that The Clerics should guide Gov. Wike to impose in his Christian Rivers State:
1. All beer parlors and drinking joints should be abolished immediately, and drinking should be prohibited with immediate effect, in Rivers Christian State: Leviticus 10:9, Number 6:3-4
2. A lady should not go to church without Hijab (veil), otherwise her head should be shaved off: Corinthians 11:5-6
3. Human traffickers should be put to death: Exodus 21:16
4. All Babalawos within Rivers state should be put to death: Exodus 22:18
5. Anyone committing adultery should be put to death: Leviticus 20:10
6. Anyone caught insulting his parent should be put to death: Exodus 21:17
7. Mini Skirts, are prohibited for women, and they must cover their bodies: Deuteronomy 22:5, I Timothy 2:9
8. Anyone who forces himself to have a sex with a girl (not his wife) should simply put to death: Deuteronomy 22:25
9. Everyone must take off his/her shoes before entering Church: Exodus 3:5, Acts 7:33
10. Performing Ablution before entering church: Exodus 40:31-32
These 10 points are enough for a start of a good moral Christian state.
So I urge those ‘men of God’ to assemble themselves again in Rivers state, this time not shower only praises on the governor, but to educate the state on the strict rules of the bible.
What I expect of them is to admonish Wike not to destroy Muslims places of worship, but help them build it as in the teaching of the Bible.

This post is illogical

johnw47:
oh duh, know nothing lie lie™ barrister

the saved when changed in the twinkling of an eye
will have the Divine nature, they will be godlike

of course when speaking of the Lord Jesus Christ having the Divine nature
it's because He is part of the Godhead, He is God
there are very many scriptures showing that Jesus is God, that Jesus is YHVH
and you don't believe one of them and twist to make them say something else
evil as you satans false jw mob are



divine
θεῖος
theios
thi'-os
godlike (neuter as noun, divinity): - divine, godhead.


 
Joh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

You are obsessed with this Jesus is God, let me correct you Jesus is God but not the father ,he is God by the reason of been begotten of God.

the word God is a generic word which any diety can bear Satan is a god,demons are god's even born again Chris are god's.
here the two father and son are distinguished as two separate beings.
1 Corinthians 8:6
yet for us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all
things, and we for Him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, through
whom are all things, and through whom we live.

yusufyo:
Declaration of Rivers as Christian State-
To God Be the Glory!---by Umar Ibrahim Tafida

One of the most exciting news recently was a declaration by Gov. Wike of Rivers State in the presence of senior clergy men, that his state is a Christian state. Masha Allah.

Am happy that many men of God have shower praises to the governor for this ‘giant step’, including Pastor E. Adeboye.
I as a Muslim, wish to comment gov. Wike for this excellent pronunciation. Because as a Muslim, I will be more happy with a Christian state than a secular state.

However, after so much commendation and praises, those men of God should enlighten the governor and the entire state and the nation on how to run a Christian state according to the teaching of The Holy Bible.

A Christian state must be ruled according to the teachings of Holy Scriptures, this can be easily verified in the books of Romans 13:1-4, 1Peter 2:3, etc.

Below are some strict Biblical rules that The Clerics should guide Gov. Wike to impose in his Christian Rivers State:
1. All beer parlors and drinking joints should be abolished immediately, and drinking should be prohibited with immediate effect, in Rivers Christian State: Leviticus 10:9, Number 6:3-4
2. A lady should not go to church without Hijab (veil), otherwise her head should be shaved off: Corinthians 11:5-6
3. Human traffickers should be put to death: Exodus 21:16
4. All Babalawos within Rivers state should be put to death: Exodus 22:18
5. Anyone committing adultery should be put to death: Leviticus 20:10
6. Anyone caught insulting his parent should be put to death: Exodus 21:17
7. Mini Skirts, are prohibited for women, and they must cover their bodies: Deuteronomy 22:5, I Timothy 2:9
8. Anyone who forces himself to have a sex with a girl (not his wife) should simply put to death: Deuteronomy 22:25
9. Everyone must take off his/her shoes before entering Church: Exodus 3:5, Acts 7:33
10. Performing Ablution before entering church: Exodus 40:31-32
These 10 points are enough for a start of a good moral Christian state.
So I urge those ‘men of God’ to assemble themselves again in Rivers state, this time not shower only praises on the governor, but to educate the state on the strict rules of the bible.
What I expect of them is to admonish Wike not to destroy Muslims places of worship, but help them build it as in the teaching of the Bible.

This post is illogical

johnw47:
i'm not going to keep explaining how the word always existed
to a mumu who understands nothing, repeating over and over again things which have already been explained
but which you don't understand

go and have a good ole cry, oh tormented one of no understanding, smile

2Co_4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

1Co_14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

Lol......You trying to deviate from my question,you see how your lies are falling apart?

solite3:
This is whar you get when you pluck out words out of context.
The meaning of divine means partaining to God.
You should ask what message peter was trying to pass instead of taking words out of context.




this your argument is dead on arrival.
The bible said Jesus is God and he possesses all quality that makes God Almighty who he is.

Than why is Jesus saying that his father is greater than him?
John 14:28
You have heard Me say to you, 'I am going away and
coming back to you.' If you loved Me, you would rejoice
because I said, 'I am going to the Father,' for My Father is
greater than I.

johnw47:
because i say truly that you cannot comprehend
you copy cat it back, ha ha such a duh lying one

The only authority we have over this subject is the Bible if you cannot prove your point from the Bible or with Bible verses than you are not fit to argue what you do not know.

Like I said before show me were it is written that Jesus was existing inside his Father before he was brought out or forth from his father that's all am asking for.

johnw47:
of course you understand nothing oh mumu brain




ha ha, you lot are so duh, in the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God, john 1:1
"the word was God", truly know nothing, God had no beginning, laugh



really, who would have thought that, ha ha ha



the word always existed in God, read my posts oh most intellectally challenged one
but reading is one thing and understanding is something else with you

Show me were it is written that Jesus existed inside God, I will happily accept your proof if it is from the Bible.

johnw47:
of course you understand nothing oh mumu brain




ha ha, you lot are so duh, in the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God, john 1:1
"the word was God", truly know nothing, God had no beginning, laugh



really, who would have thought that, ha ha ha



the word always existed in God, read my posts oh most intellectally challenged one
but reading is one thing and understanding is something else with you

Show me were it is written in the Bible that the word always existed in God, that how you go about deceving people.

John 1:1 says the word was with God and the word was God not in God, Olodo.

johnw47:
oh brain like a sieve know nothing
i certanally did say the word had no beginning and
i also said the word had a beginning as a seperate person to God

read my posts oh mumu brain, but comprehend them, laughing

Gosh are such are dreadful liar? here is way you posted.

(confused one, you understand nothing
the Father fathered the son, oh really, give more of this insight
Father gave Jesus the son life, wow, your knowledge is never
ending
before Jesus was man(the Son) He was God the Word, His
existance had no beginning
except as a seperate person to the Father.)

His existence has no beginning that's your word.


And contrary to your false narrative Jesus himself is saying he has a beginning which is when he was brought forth by his father their is nowhere it is written in the Bible that he was pre existing before his father brought him forth.

[quote author=johnw47 post=81784559]you will keep exposing? really, when did you start? laugh, oh understanding nothing one

the only thing you are exposing mumu brain is your stupidity
again, read my post on the Word always existing, i have explained it well

however you understand nothing oh blinded and confused one

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

1Co_14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.





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As usual you quote Bible verses you can barely comprehend.

johnw47:
what is needed know nothing, is for you to get intelligence



confused one, you understand nothing
the Father fathered the son, oh really, give more of this insight
Father gave Jesus the son life, wow, your knowledge is never ending

before Jesus was man(the Son) He was God the Word, His existance had no beginning
except as a seperate person to the Father

of course you won't understand again, confusion reigns in you and jano:

1Co_14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

I will keep exposing your naivety.
John 5:26
For as the Father has life in himself; so has he given to the
Son to have life in himself;


If Jesus (word)was self existing as you claim why does the father give him life?

johnw47:
what is needed know nothing, is for you to get intelligence



confused one, you understand nothing
the Father fathered the son, oh really, give more of this insight
Father gave Jesus the son life, wow, your knowledge is never ending

before Jesus was man(the Son) He was God the Word, His existance had no beginning
except as a seperate person to the Father

of course you won't understand again, confusion reigns in you and jano:

1Co_14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

If you have sense read the Bible verses below.
Revelation 3:14 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;

Colossians 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:


Revelation 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last

Colossians 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: 1:17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence. 1:19 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;



I thought you said he has no beginning?

solite3:
where did it say the father gave life to Jesus? You are reading your mind into the bible.




go back to my previous response and read slowly and carefully.

your father is older than you, does it make him a higher human than you, does it?
You are comparing apples with mangoes. Human fathers have an origin because that it is the nature of humans but not God.

God cannot be created hence that your analogy fails woefully.


The issue of age doesn't apply to God because he is ageless.
Just as the father is ageless so the Son is ageless.
Reason
God is ageless.

1 Corinthians 11:3
But I would have you know, that the head of every man is
Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head
of Christ is God.

solite3:
where did it say the father gave life to Jesus? You are reading your mind into the bible.




go back to my previous response and read slowly and carefully.

your father is older than you, does it make him a higher human than you, does it?
You are comparing apples with mangoes. Human fathers have an origin because that it is the nature of humans but not God.

God cannot be created hence that your analogy fails woefully.


The issue of age doesn't apply to God because he is ageless.
Just as the father is ageless so the Son is ageless.
Reason
God is ageless.

Really, so God is stupid for calling Jesus his Son or he was lieing when he said he beget Jesus?

Your father is not higher human than you but he is greater than you in age ,authority,power and experience same with God and his son Jesus

Barristter07:
Just put that in mind whenever El Gibboa at Isaiah 9:6 is discussed. Limit



God send his what ? ... From where was he sent ?



If he wasn't a servant at then, why was he sent out for another's will ?

I wonder how some people reason. On point bro they will never answer your question becos it will expose their naivety.