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Cousin9999:
Whites have stolen from Africa for thousands of years. They continue to steal from Africa. It's only right that they get the same treatment.

Clown stop talking shit. what did the Whites steal from you?
Is it the Whites that told your kinsmen to bewitch you. come on Africans are where they are becos they are too stupid and lazy to think.

sulasa07:
Christianity and its problems, in the next coming decades,Mary will soon join the 3 in 1 gods making it 4 in 1,yeye doctrine.

Lol.... that's the work of the Catholic Church God is not a Trinity, the trinity doctrine has it's roots in paganism and was brought into Christaintity by the Catholic Church.
there are many more false teachings in Christaintity which need to be exposed such as Sunday been declared as God's Holy day,Eternal Hellfire, life after death, immortal soul and spirits and many others. only God can help us through all this deceptions.

Graduateacher:
Who gave birth to Jesus? did Christ appear on earth out of the blues? If she was a partaker in bring Him to the world then she's included in the story of redemption automacally.

That does not qualify her to be called our Co-Redeemer.
mind you there is nothing impossible for God to do God could have choose any other person Mary was never God's only option.

Graduateacher:
I disagree.

What if she had refused to receive Him into her womb?

We see so many destinies cut short through abortion, we see women/girls refusing to bring forth a life into the world. Do you think she couldn't have aborted or even commited suicide before He was born?

What I'm saying is that, the fact that she knew who she was carrying, accepted, carried and gave birth to Him, shows that she is a partaker in the story of redemption.

You are looking for excuse where there is none.
She had no choice but to accept God's will.

ChristianEast:
Stop telling fake lies.

Co-redemptrix is never an official dogma of the catholic church.

I used to be a catholic critic, but to what end? I don't have time for that bullshitt again and today, I don't have problem with catholic dogmas.

Who is lieing?

Horlufemi:
Bro don't water your time o.

Religion is very sweet, it has gold chains used to tie people down.

Religion is not the problem. the problem is people abuse religion and use it as a means to defraud and boss over other people.
Even if you remove religion the smart people in this world will find a way to enslave the foolish ones.
Rather than be a chain, religion especially (Christainity) offers or advocates for liberty and freedom for all men.

sulasa07:
Christianity and its problems, in the next coming decades,Mary will soon join the 3 in 1 gods making it 4 in 1,yeye doctrine.

Lol.... that's the work of the Catholic Church God is not a Trinity, the trinity doctrine has it's roots in paganism and was brought into Christaintity by the Catholic Church.
there are many more false teachings in Christaintity which need to be exposed such as Sunday be declared as God's Holy day,Eternal Hellfire, life after death, immortal soul and spirits and many others. only God can help us through all this deceptions.

donkripton:
brother I checked the bible verses, they are not true.

For you to know you have to first and foremost go back to history of the bible understand beyond the stories then come back to new testament. Then you will see the connections

Am still waiting for your reply.

Nbote:
Na all dis ones don go spoil road for other Nigerians... These are d ppl wey make Trump dey vex.. How some ppl will avoid dis thread afta seeing their name

Lol......They know their selves.

Nbote:
Na all dis ones don go spoil road for other Nigerians... These are d ppl wey make Trump dey vex

No be small thing.

NIGERIAN NIGGER to be charged with murder of 'aspiring'
white female LovePeddler - some of her BURNED BODY PARTS
found
SALT LAKE CITY — Police arrested a Salt
Lake man Friday who they say murdered
University of Utah student Mackenzie Lueck,
who has been missing since June 17. "It is
with heavy heart that I address you today," said Salt Lake Police Chief Mike Brown. Ayoola Adisa Ajayi , 31, was
arrested at 9:20 a.m. at an
apartment complex at 1028 S.
West Temple. He is expected to
be charged with aggravated
murder, aggravated kidnapping
and desecration of a body,
according to Salt Lake Police Chief Mike Brown.
Ajayi was seen walking outside the apartment complex walking toward a police SWAT team with his hands over his head. Officers then put him into handcuffs.
A second man was also taken into custody at the complex.
On Thursday, Salt Lake police called Ajayi, the owner of the house in the Fairpark neighborhood, a "person of interest" in Lueck's disappearance.
Police spent an active Wednesday evening and through the night collecting evidence from that house. Bags and bags of evidence were collected. Officers could be seen digging holes in the backyard.
His neighbors told detectives they had observed Ajayi on June 17 and 18 burning something in his backyard.
Police recovered several charred items, including body parts and personal items belonging to Lueck. - (Black-on-
white)

https://www.ksl.com/article/46583923/murder-charges-to-be-filed-in-case-of-missing-u-student-mackenzie-lueck

Love4God:
Be optimistic. Even if you don't believe the story that doesn't mean Nigeria won't get better one day .
Are you not better than anyone in America?.
With prayer and hardwork Nigeria will be great.

Keep dreaming.

Dafemich:
Thanks brother. Jesus is the only way and there is no other way

True bro. There is no other alternative but only Jesus.

Igbaba2:
How are u sure that Mary is having the guilt of original sin (sin of our first parent)? if God is powerful to extent that He Overshadowed Mary to conceive Jesus don't u think that it is possible for Him to do it that the mother of Our Saviour will be born without sin? though Catholic believe that mary is immaculate conception which I believe too. How can sinful person from birth give birth to Son of most High God who is sinless? though , God is powerful He can do anything He wills. But evil cannot beget good. good will always beget good. Mary is pure and beget pure Son of God.

You are just speculating rather than trust the word of God you are using your own logic to interpret God's own word

Mary herself confirmed that she was a sinner her acknowledgment is more valuable than any propangander you are promoting.

donkripton:
brother I checked the bible verses, they are not true.

For you to know you have to first and foremost go back to history of the bible understand beyond the stories then come back to new testament. Then you will see the connections

Really.
Just point out the Bible verses and how they are wrong.

donkripton:
For your mind you don do research baa

Yes.....ooooo.
Is there anything I wrote that is not the truth?

Mary is not a co-Redeemer with Jesus.

Catholic doctrines teaches that Mary is Co- Redeemer with Jesus. meaning that she worked together with Christ to redeem Man. before we debate if Mary is Co-Redeemer or not we will look at the reason why Jesus had to die and the qualities that qualify Jesus as our Redeemer and if mary fits into the title.

God's law demands death as the penalty for any one who breaks or transgresses God's law.Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

when Adam and Eve sinned against God. the penalty of sin which is death was passed over the entire human race(including Mary). Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: 5:13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.)

The only way to satisfy the just requirements of the law was for Humanity to face the death penalty or for someone without sin to die in place of man. even God could not set the law and it's penalty aside inorder to save man.Hebrews 9:22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.

So God offered his Son who had no sin to take the place of man to die as a ransom for man's sin.

Facts to note about the Redeemer.
1. Only a person without sin could be accepted as a scarifical lamb or ransom for sin.1 Peter 1:19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:
This point disqualifies Mary because she had Sin and looked up to Jesus as her saviour.
Luke 1:46 And Mary said, My soul doth magnify the Lord, 1:47 And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour.

2* Jesus died and resurrected from the grave 3days after his death demonstrating his power over death Mary died and is still in the grave Like the other saints waiting for the day of Resurrection. this point disqualifies Mary.
John 11:25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live.

3*. Jesus was exalted and given the role of a mediator between God and man. Mary was not given any title or role by God therefore this point also disqualifies her.(1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.)
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Hebrews8:6,Heb9:15,Heb12:24

4*. Mary did not shed her blood as required by the law of God for sin.
This point disqualifies Mary because only Jesus Christ shed his blood for Humanity.

5*. Christ will return to judge the world Mary will not judge the world rather she will be judged on the judgement day.Revelation 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

6*. Only one Man was mentioned as the Redeemer and that's Jesus.
Romans 5:17 For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by ONE,Jesus Christ.
Luke 24:47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. Romans 3:25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God.

7*Even Mary Worshipped Jesus Matthew28:5-10.
Showing that she was human and a sinner that needs a saviour.

8* When God was looking for who he will send to redeem man from death Mary did not turn up only Jesus did. Rev5:1-5

With this points it is obvious that Mary is not qualified to be called Co- redemer she played no role in The Salvation of humanity she was only a vessel used by God just like every other great personality in the Bible like David Abraham, Isaac, Noah e.t.c I know Catholics will dispute this and will mention that Mary was submissive to God's plan and that she went through emotional pain during the death of Jesus. why this is true this does not qualify her to be called co- Redeemer the same way Abraham's faith and trust in God or Jacob's faith and job's steadfastness does not qualify them or anyone to be called Co-Redeemer.
Mary died and was buried she did not die for the world she did not suffer more than the other apostles.
if there were people we could consider as Co- redeemers why not Stephen the first matyr or John the Baptist or paul and many others who died for the gospel , yet these people are not qualified they died only for their faith and personal salvation their righteousness will not be credited to another person or the entire humanity, only the righteousness of Jesus is credited to us.

In Conclusion.
As I have clearly stated Mary and no one else is qualified to be called Co- Redeemer Christ alone bore the penalty of Sin and gave his life for me,you and the entire world Christ alone is our sole Redeemer. Catholics calling mary Co-Redeemer is totally blasphemous and unscriptural they should please desist from this. Paul and the early Apostles never mentioned Mary as Co-Redeemer he and other apostles preached only about Jesus nothing more or less. thank you.

Ubenedictus:
lol

So you are telling me that in the Bible there are no praises of righteous men for their qualities?

It is upto you to show me where in the Bible it was done.

[quote author=otemdomino post=54085176]Well...as for me, I'd rather jump out of the heaven of Yahweh to his hell to meet the likes of Thomas Edison, Socrates, Albert Einstein, Michael Jackson, Spinoza who all 'healed the world' and made it a better place with their talents. God forbid that I should be in the company of Isaiah the curser, Hosea the womanizer, Elikamah the curser, Elijah the killer and Samuel, David, Moses the murderers, including Faulkin(Zeusus Krist) the deceiver.

Jacksonville, Gboyee4fun, Muafrika2, Winner01, Felixmor, Blueagent, would you rather be in the company of all these murderers and womanizers? [/quote.


Keep decieving yourself.

Ubenedictus:
you simply asked me to show where people were praised in the Bible and I just did, those are people praised for their faith.

I didn't twist anything.

Now as usual you Have shifted from the issue of praise to the issue of sinlessness.


Before I go to that, do you agree that the bible records the praise of great men of God?


I hate people who go about shifting topic without admitting the initial point

That particular verse is talking about faith and not praise, those men where mentioned because of their faith in God.

No where in the Bible are Christains instructed to praise the Saints or Mary or even Angels.

Ubenedictus:
Because Abel had faith, he offered God a better sacrifice than Cain did. God was pleased with him and his gift, and even though Abel is now dead, his faith still speaks for him.

5 Enoch had faith and did not die. He pleased God, and God took him up to heaven. That’s why his body was never found. 6 But without faith no one can please God. We must believe that God is real and that he rewards everyone who searches for him.

7 Because Noah had faith, he was warned about something that had not yet happened. He obeyed and built a boat that saved him and his family. In this way the people of the world were judged, and Noah was given the blessings that come to everyone who pleases God.

8 Abraham had faith and obeyed God. He was told to go to the land that God had said would be his, and he left for a country he had never seen. 9 Because Abraham had faith, he lived as a stranger in the promised land. He lived there in a tent, and so did Isaac and Jacob, who were later given the same promise. 10 Abraham did this, because he was waiting for the eternal city that God had planned and built.

11 Even when Sarah was too old to have children, she had faith that God would do what he had promised, and she had a son. 12 Her husband Abraham was almost dead, but he became the ancestor of many people. In fact, there are as many of them as there are stars in the sky or grains of sand along the beach.



the list of men praised for their faith continue in Hebrew 11

As usual you are twisting the scripture to suit your false doctrine that Bible verse is not about honouring those men you mentioned  but is given  to us as an  example of people who had faith in God and overcame their challenges.besides None of those men were perfect or without sin as you people claim  Mary is without Sin.
Moses:disobeyed God
Abraham lied several times.
David was a muderer and adulterer.
Jacob stole his brothers birthright.
Sarah.  lied
Mary: am sure her sins are many.
The list of great servants of God who fell one time or  the other is endless. Only Jesus  lived a Holy and perfect life no one else could have done that  including Mary.

As usual you folks are good at twisting bible verses. That bible verse you quoted was not given to us as examples of people who were venerated or worshipped rather it was given to us as examples of people who believed God and were blessed no where did it say they should be venerated. None of those people you mentioned ever prayed or worshiped Mary.

Yale9:
yes. The church as a sacred, catholic and undivided institution.

Jesus was not referring to the Catholic Church when he made that comment.

Ubenedictus:
that can only happen if Jesus is a liar who can't fulfill his promise. Jesus promised to be with the church till the end of time, he promised the gates of hell would NEVER prevail against his church. Jesus can never lie, as he promised the gate of hell can not prevail, i know his church can not be hijack, that mean u are the liar who do not believe in the promise and assurance Jesus gave as regard his church. u dont believe what Jesus says.

As usual you are twisting the word of God. Jesus was referring to the Church as an insistution and not just one Church especially not your Church.

Ubenedictus:
VERY SIMPLE, i call her 'blessed mother', 'new eve', when i talk or sing of what God has done for her.... that is veneration

Stop lieing you sing praises to Mary, you also pray to her and ask for forgiveness of Sin.

https://www.catholic.org/prayers/prayer.php?p=118

morpheus24:
What do you mean by "diversity" and what level are we talking here.

On a genetic level, absolutely and unequivocally YES!. Interbreeding is an evolutionary necessity. Diversity is essential in this process. The less diverse a species genetically, the higher the probability they will not survive.

On a social level , of course, otherwise you wouldn't have EXCHANGES and uncontrolled flow of knowledge. this means all those varieties of foods and restaurants you have access to on the streets of Europe and America would not be available to you. As you send the people back, you would have to send every other thing that comes from somewhere else back to where to originated from as well, not just people. That would limit your dietary intake and probable cause genetic problems down the line.

On a cultural level, a resounding 'Yes". Culture remains dynamic, it perishes if it remains static. In order for culture to continue dynaminism its norms, values, systems and structures most be continuously challenged or reconstructed. As uncomfortable as it seems, it is unfortunately a necessity for progress to take place. You cannot name one civilization that has not experienced this phenomena. It is not going away my friend no matter how much you try to socially engineer. Nature is greater than you.

Are you that naive? all the Civilizations that experienced die-versity were all destoryed as a result of it example the Roman empire.

morpheus24:
Point 1."dumb" being a euphenism here for what we all know is truly being implied. ehhhh can we assume racist!

Point 2. Its the same they said about the Irish, the Italians, Armenians, etc when they mass migrated into the Americas but hey you still managed quite well many years later unless of course you believe for some reason these humans that mass migrated some how were "superior" to the ones who are mass migrating now in terms of intellect or culture, which I suspect you do ergo Master race ideology.


Point 3. Statistically speaking there is no evidence to support that assertion, it is of course purely based on bias and the real stats would factor in multiple variables.

Point 4. its obvious you want to come here and hash out your alt right wing agenda but you are on the wrong platform. You don't have leftists or neo liberals in this space in the same sense as what you consider one to be but keep on though, everyone needs an outlet to offload their fears and frustrations in life.

All this people you mentioned are far better than blacks.

Show me one black ruled Nation,city or State that is a first World Civilization.

Yale9:
Bros u just further buttressed ur rift with simple understanding.

Clown that does not know that his Church prays to Mary. you are really a joke.