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hahn:
Well, one part of being an atheists is that you always seek for evidence and scrutinize everything that comes your way

We are not encouraged by a book written by goat herders to believe blindly

Evidence!! are u serious?

LaClicKLaBenDin:
Don't worry, the atheists will come, but not immediately.

They're doing a background check on the character mentioned in the topic: in fact, they're doing research on all the names mentioned, and looking for loopholes and all sorts to come forth with...

Just watch.... I know them well...

Lol.......is like they have turned into 007

[quote author=AngelsAndStars post=51522638]who says it's wrong? [/quote






Read your comment.
It is foolish to say there's a God,but more foolish to say their is none.

peacesamuel94:
Any atheist that regard the belief in a God as illogical, is simply a pot calling the kettle black.

Only a believe in God answers all the questions concerning the origin of the Universe and still remains consistent with the laws of Science.

www.nairaland.com/3236915/facts-prove-science-supports-bible

Teempakguy:
my friend shut up.

The problem is not that he started asking. It is that some unscrupulous elements gave him totally wrong answers, and he believed it.

Let him sit down there and be lamenting while science uncovers all the mysteries giving him headache.

Their is no logical explanation for the origin of Matter from nothing other than A believe in God as the maker of matter.

Teempakguy:
just because there are no current answers, gives no one the right to dictate what science can or cannot do. All they had to say was; who knows, you might be the one to find out.

Just accept the fact and logic that nothing can come from nothing.even if you give Science 10000yrs they will still not have an answer.

lordnicklaus:
I will say this again. I am not an atheist.

Don't miss understand me. I did not limit the names to that of athiests, i also mentioned the names of Thiests like , felixomor, KingEbukablog,Winners and you with the names of Athiests.

Food is ready
Wilgrea7,OLAADEGBU, lordnicklaus,raphieMontella,felixomor, produce, winner01, harlems02, Zoharariel, PunkyV,KingEbukasBlog, analice107,MEILYN, hahn,GooseBaba, hopefulLandlord, otemanuduno,ValentineMaryEdenoscar, johnydon22, EyeHateGod, Immorttal, Buharimustdie20, HCpaul,Teempakguy, Mizblinks, TrajansKong, davien, norant Atheists, JackBizzle

AngelsAndStars:
It is foolish to say there's a God, but it is more foolish to say there's no God.

How is it wrong to say there is a God?

rhektor:
Eyehategod , seun , otem etc food is ready

Lol....Spritual food.

This article is an extract from the Book
WHY I LEFT ATHEISM by John N. Clayton .
I have summerized the most important incidents that lead to the transformation of this former Athiests to an Evangelist.

1.I entered Indiana University majoring in the field of physical science. It was actually at this point that one of the great changes that occurred in my life took place. I enrolled in a course in astronomy at the feet of one of the great astronomers of our day. In that particular course, we were studying the problem of origins — the creation of matter from nothing. As we discussed this particular subject, we went into all those theories that
are in that particular material. We talked about the big-bang theory, the quasistatal theory, the continuous generation theory, the planetessimal theory, etc.
When we got to the conclusion of that discussion, I asked the professor which of the
particular theories was the one that is most acceptable and that satisfactorily explains
the creation of matter from nothing. He leaned over the desk and looked me straight
in the eye and said, “Young man, you need to learn to ask intelligent questions.” That
rather upset me. I did not appreciate that and I said, “Well, what do you mean?” He
said, “This is not a question that a scientist tries to answer. This is a question for the
philosopher or theologian, but this is not something that falls into the realm of science.” In today's discussions of black holes
and parallel universes, things have not changed. The basic question of the creation
of matter/energy from absolutely nothing is
not an area that can be scientifically explored. I was very disturbed by that answer. I had always felt that science could ultimately answer all the questions that man
had — that there was nothing that science could not eventually take care of as far as what man might challenge and want to know about. Yet this learned man, an expert in his field, said that this was an area that the scientist should not even try to answer —  that it was totally beyond the capacity of science to explain and explore.

2. Not too long after that, I enrolled in a course in biology at the feet of one of the great primitive life scientists in the country. As we discussed the initial beginning of life
upon the earth in that class, we talked about the synthesis of various primitive chemical
materials such as deoxyribonucleic acid (DNA)
As we discussed this, I once again asked a question related to the one that I had asked
previously. I asked this professor what the
process was by which the original life — the original living cells upon the earth — came
into existence. How did the structure or generation of DNA occur? Once again, this
man said, “Young man, that is not a question that falls within the realm of science.” In
today's world we understand more about biochemical processes, but we cannot answer
how in the environment of the primitive earth these processes came into operation. I
guess what was happening to me was the same thing that Lord Kelvin, a very famous
British scientist, described in his writings when he made the statement, “If you study
science deep enough and long enough it will force you to believe in God.” That is what happened to me. I began to realize that science had its limitations — that science, in fact, strongly pointed to other explanations than natural ones to certain questions.

3. I guess the real straw that broke the camel's back occurred some six months later. I was enrolled in my first geology course at Indiana University. The professor was a brilliant, well-known atheist. On the first day of class, in response to a discussion, he made a statement something like, “I'm going to show you that the Bible is a bunch of garbage,”and I thought, “Now this is going to be great,” because I was getting concerned. I was still saying that I was an atheist to those who knew me well. I was still rejecting God and holding on tenaciously to my lack of belief. It is hard to change a life that has gone a certain direction for years and all of a sudden make it go another direction, I was not ready for that. I thought this man was going to be able to provide me with some arguments that would finally defeat this girl that I had been dating all these years. She was a Christian — although perhaps not as strong as she might have been. I was going to show her that this religion stuff was really a lot of bunk and I was even convinced that I might even be able to show Ray Muncy that belief in God was not realistic. Mr. Muncy was a man who had great patience and knowledge, but he had not been given much of an opportunity to convince or teach me much of anything.
The professor started the class out by showing us the various methods of dating rocks and other parts of the creation. He
then asserted that everyone knew that the Bible said the earth was 6,000 years old. I
asked where it said that. He replied that he believed it was in Genesis the 52nd chapter.
I started looking, not knowing much about the Bible, to Genesis 40, Genesis 49, Genesis
50, Exodus 1 — I said, “Wait a minute; Genesis only has 50 chapters.” He sputtered
around a few minutes, but he never did find that passage. Of course, the Bible does not
say the earth is 6,000 years old. The Bible is totally silent on the age of the earth and I realized that. This man made the statement that the Bible says that God created two
cocker spaniels, two English terriers, and two German shepherds. We all had a good laugh when we figured out how big the Ark would have to be to hold the 20 million groupings
of this kind. Once again, I asked where the word kind was defined in that way. It did not
seem to me that the word kind meant that.
We looked at it and he finally said he guessed that maybe it did not. First Corinthians 15:39 is the only definition of the
word kind and that is a very broad definition
(“All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of
beasts, another fishes, and another of birds.”). Genesis 1 uses the same terminology
and the same breakdown as 1 Corinthians 15.
To make a very, very long story fairly short, when I turned in my final exam the last day
of class, I said to this learned professor, “Sir,you have not really shown me any contradiction between what we have studied in this course and in what the Bible has to teach.” He jerked my paper away from me and said, “Well, I guess if you really study it,there is no contradiction.” I was shocked! I was appalled! Here was a man who had a Ph.D. and was a leading atheist, yet he could not answer the silly questions from an ignorant college junior who was on his side. I remember that February day very clearly. I walked back to my room in the dormitory in a state of shock. I could not believe what had happened. I got to my room about 11:00 and sat on my bed thinking what a stupid, ignorant fool I had been. I had rejected God;
I had been dishonest. I had actually been stupid in my response to the evidence available to me. I did not like people who refuse to look at the evidence and draw intelligent conclusions. I did not like people who could not break free of their parents' thinking and do their own thinking. I had
always accused the religionists of doing this, yet I recognized that I had been guilty of the same thing. I had refused to be honest — to look at the evidence. I had refused to make comparative choices based upon what was available to me. I was miserable.

When I read passages in the Bible like Psalm53, for instance, I sometimes feel like God is describing John Clayton some years ago.Plsams 53:1– 3 says:
The fool hath said in his heart, “There is no God.” Corrupt are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good. God looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, that did seek God. Every one of them is gone back: they are altogether become filthy; there is none that doeth good,no, not one.
Another statement, made by Solomon in Ecclesiastes 1:2 – 3, 14, says: Vanity of vanities, saith the Preacher, vanity of vanities; all is vanity. What profit hath a man of all his labour which he taketh under the sun? … I have seen all the works that are done under the sun; and, behold, all is vanity and vexation of spirit.
I have tried almost everything you can imagine to find pleasure and happiness. I will not try to tell you that I did not find pleasure using my own system of following my own desires, but I can guarantee you that I did not find happiness. I tried every conceivable thing you can think of. I tried all kinds of things — things that were immoral, that were wrong, that hurt other people, and things that I would not even want to describe.
I did those things because I was trying to find pleasure and happiness and, as I say, I found pleasure sometimes. However, I never went to bed at night satisfied or happy with my l

www.doesgodexist.org/AboutClayton/PastLife.html

SillyMods:
OK

I hope you know that your government has failed?

rexben:
Don't get it twisted. The bible is not the word of God. It's a collection of different books by different authors

You are confused , so which book is the word of God?

rexben:
I'm not a disciple of the bible. I'm a disciple of Jesus.

How can you claim to be a disciple of Jesus when you reject his word the Bible?

ever811:
and I can also tell you that atheism comes from a few set of confused creatures, who can not distinguish between there left from right but are so interested in arguing what they can't prove otherwise... you said God does not exist but you can't tell us how we got here..so you can see where you got your title...of a "set of confused creatures."

I concur 100%. you killed this dude and his illogical rant.

Brown47:
you know, i know and everybody know. This god thing or idea came from some crude ignorant primitive men as a result of trying to explain things thet don't understand.

Dude Athiesm is not even up to 300yrs old

felixomor:
People will just enter bible, cut one sentence and come and paste.
And open thread.

Well, its a "free world'.

When they are moved to find fault with the Bible this dudes can do anything

promise10:
atheism is soooo illogical, but the way they hide behind reason is so sickening.

True.

Majority of Christains and Athiests do not understand the purpose and reason for the death of Jesus, the Son of God.
To the Athiests God is a sadist who requires the blood of his own Son to appease himself,while the christain sees  Jesus as someone who died to save him.But is there more to this or is God really a sadists or a perfect ,Holy & loving  God, We will find out.

We all agree that every Nation ,State,Community or Dominion has laws and Statutes that regulate peoples conduct and hence ensure peace and Harmony.and Every law has penalty for offenders.Laws affect and influence every area of our lives.the Universe itself is governed by physical/natural  and divine laws . the divine laws were insistuted to regulate our moral conduct .So also in Heaven their were divine laws which were put in place to ensure harmony and peace.that divine law was broken first by Lucifer(Satan who  became the adversary of God).
When Adam broke the Divine law (Sin is defined as the transgression of the law James2:9-12, He brought death to all men.this is becos the Divine law prescribes the death penalty on its offenders(The wages of Sin is death,Romans6:23,

Romans 5:12   Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin,and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned.
1 Corinthians 15:56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.

The Devil and the angels who joined him in rebellion against God were placed in prison 2peter2:4, Jude1:6,Jude1:3
Adam's sin brought death,pain and suffering upon Humanity.  1corinthians15:22.
When Man fell God could have destoryed man in accordance to the law or disregard the law and allow man to have eternal live.
Isaiah  42:21 The LORD is well pleased for his righteousness' sake; he will magnify the law, and make it honourable.but God cannot disregard or violate his our divine laws, becos The Bible says  God's Law  is perfect and his judgement is right. 
Psalms  19:7 The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.  19:8 The statutes of the LORD are right, rejoicing the heart: the commandment of the LORD is pure, enlightening the eyes.  19:9 The fear of the LORD is clean, enduring for ever: the judgments of the LORD are true and righteous altogether.Psalms  111:7 The works of his hands are verity and judgment; all his commandments are sure.  111:8 They stand fast for ever and ever, and are done in truth and uprightness. this is why Jesus said  in Matthew  5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.  5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.  The law cannot be destoryed rather it shall be fulfilled(Exalted),considering the fact that God is a just God,it will be impossible for God to go contrary to his Character(the divine laws are God's character in letters)
If God had disregarded his divine laws inorder to save man from the penalty of death , it would have lead to more rebellion,Chaos,& disharmony in  Heaven and the Universe.no angelic being would have taken God serious,So God had another plan, to subsistute Mans place(death) with that of his son. 1 John  4:9 In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.John  3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Hebrews 2:9   But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.
Galatians 3:13   Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree.1 Corinthians  15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures

Revelation 5:1-6 talks about great Silence in Heaven when the question of who will go to pay the ransome for the Sin of Man. Jesus offered himself as the sacrifical lamb for the Sin of Man,John12:27,hebrews7:27,
hebrews 9:28.

Romans 5:17   For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.

The death of Jesus showed that the law cannot be disregarded or done away with.instead of annuling the law as believed by christains Jesus upheld the law. Isaiah prophecised that Jesus will magnify the law.Isaiah42:21
Jesus through his death glorified the father,that's he showed the Just and Holy nature of his father. John17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.  17:4,  I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.  17:5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

In Conclusion.

Jesus died not becos God took delight in the death of his Son.No but he died becos it was the only means God could have saved man without disregarding his divine law.

bennyann:
You want to be forgiven but you don't want to forgive others for the same crime you committed. Smh

Thats called Politics .

Edwinmason:
what is this?

Hate speech.

Onyenna:
.....nah waah ooooh! ....What nonsense!

Thats their opinion

SillyMods:
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I guess U are a deluded Apshit supporter

CoolFreeday:
A clown that can deduce a stupid write-up is far more sensible than the person that put up such write up.

As usual , no Apshit supporter will put up a reasonable argument. just blind fellowership.

awa:
Forget it, Buhari won't learn anything from him

That is Obvious Africans don't learn from History.

MalcoImX:
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Another deluded Clown.

CoolFreeday:
pot calling ketu black. Buhari at his age is far more sound and sensible than you're.
You should know that America is not Nigeria, their systems work very well unlike ours and they are less corrupt and mischievous compare to our politicians.

# its unfortunate the so called "delusion" Buhari know this and you that claimed to be sound don't. Eyaaa

Clown. how does this your rubbish writeup justify the fact that he took 6months to appoint a cabinet?

rexben:
The words of Jesus are Spirit and they are life The words are recorded in Gospels. Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.

So you select the words from the Bible to believe and discard the others as not Jesus words?