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Goal to Chelsea but ruled offside .

Sulphuric1:
You miss road?

JAMB question .

Cucurella collects stupiiid yellow card

People wey bet Chelsea over 0.5 goal go don Dey cry like this 😂😂😂

Na james get the pre-assist for that goal 👍

Casemiro makes it 2-0

Dem just Dey play up ball and Chelsea players Dey confuse

iamoyindamola:
They wan play haram football without employing arteta

Goal stands chalobah(ibime boy the culprit)

I wan see them play Haram football and see what the result will be . 😎

Palmer off too

1-0

They had it coming

If man utd no win this match with at least 2 goals advantage , make dem sack Amuru this night !

Tosin about to come on

Match plan don pafuka

Sanchez mumu sha. Now we would see Chelsea play with 10 men for 85 minutes .

Red card ❌

Ball wey Dorgu supposed score, he dey sleep on bicycle

AirBere:
He's obsessed with anything Liverpool. If Titus Bramble was playing for Liverpool, he'll say he's better than Vidic. Delusional takes here and there. He's nowhere near the level yet in the EPL. It's one of the reasons he was dropped today.

Time still dey for Flora Vit, and I think he'll eventually come good but right now, he's giving pure Barca's Coutinho vibes or Hazard at Madrid.


Time will tell 😴

As in.... He's just forcing it.

The Liverpool players like that new LB they signed, Sobo and Gravenbach people are giving them their due credit. That one no do him, na Wirtz wey dey gba he Sha Wan force on us like say we no dey watch him dey gba up and down

Silentgroper:
What is wirtz primary duty as a midfielder??

Does he not perform to his best in his primary??

.your answers to the this question give this conversation it's closure..

You tell us his primary duty as an attacking midfielder and let's see if he has done anything to justify ghe accolades you want us to give him.

Silentgroper:
Wrong ..

Y'all would bday anything just to keep the agenda going ..

I'm pretty sure you saw the ATM match ..

For a soft boy like him, he presses good ..

Oga , he has played 5 EPL games this season can you mention just 2 of those 5 he displayed exceptional performance ?

Even the UCL game u want to use rate him , all you have to say is that “he presses good “

If he plays well , we will all see it . Shebi when Gravenbaach plays u hear people commending him and u are happy . Why don’t u like the truth that Writz is not playing anything spectacular for now ? 🤷‍♂️

2-0!

Tottenham will suffer for 600 years !

Dem Don score Tottenham wetin no good.

Nice one minteh 👍

Silentgroper:
Wirtz has caught up already, he only doesnt have goal to his name .... But in other aspects , he cannot be regarded as a flop and since scoring goal is not his primary duty .. then he is no flop ...

Writz has actually not done anything since he joined Liverpool. He has not shown any of that spark that made them sign him.

The other Midfielders of Liverpool have been shining much more than him that is supposed to be a new signing bringing with him the magical touch

semid4lyfe:
Baba, wetin I dey tackle BRD on na the meaning of the word propaganda. BlueRay opines it has a negative connotation while I think it has a dual meaning. Na strictly english matter we dey discuss. No politicize the matter.

.....And FYI, I don't have faith in any Nigerian government or politician.

It's not my opinion that propaganda has a negative connotation, the Britannica definition was straight and simple on what propaganda is.

There's a reason why propaganda is different from facts na. At least we both agree facts (justified truth) and propaganda are not the same thing.

Kimbeast:
It's only at Anfield Everton are useless. At home they have only lost once to Liverpool in 8years

Well u have a point, but normally most derbies ate usually a keen contest between the two teams on both legs. For this one it's almost always assure Loserpool will win at Anfield and either play out a draw or win at Goodison park.

2-1

semid4lyfe:
Brittanica is not wrong. Na you no read well because you no wan unlearn to relearn. Others don talk am but make I try one last time.

Propaganda can either be negative or positive. It is the intended outcome/goal that categorizes the propaganda as negative or positive not the message itself or the tools used in disseminating the propaganda.

Example: The Ministry of Health launches a campaign that all make newborn should be circumcised to eliminate their risk of contracting HIV/AIDS.

We all know the above is exaggerated messaging and factually incorrect because circumcision DOES NOT ELIMINATE the risk of contracting the virus BUT because the practice reduces the risk of contracting STIs, UTIs, HIV and improves the general health of the populace, it will be categorized as Positive propaganda.

Deception, half-truths. lies may be deployed to push this kind of propaganda. What makes it positive is that the increased uptake of neonatal circumcision will reduce the rates of transmission of UTI, STIs, HIV and ultimately save lives. What makes it propaganda is the tactic of exaggerating, being economical with the truth, hiding facts and not being factually accurate to get behavior change.

I hope you get it now cos I don tire to dey type.

I rest my fingers.

This thing wey u talk say " Na you no read well"? , I do not agree with it because what other meaning is there to read to the clear definition the Britannica gave?

I believe if we are talking about unlearning and relearning, then we should be focusing on how Britannica explained propaganda (not positive or negative propaganda) as " dissemination of information- facts, arguments, rumours, half-truths, or lies- to influence public opinion. It is often conveyed through mass media."

And also " Propaganda being more or less systematic effort to manipulate other people's beliefs, attitudes, or actions by means of symbols (words, gestures, banners, monuments, music, clothing, insignia, hairstyles, designs on coins and postage stamps, and so forth).

They still further explained that propaganda is different from casual conversation that is laden with facts in the sense that

Deliberateness and a relatively heavy emphasis on manipulation distinguish propaganda from casual conversation or the free and easy exchange of ideas.

I didn't write any of those, but you said I didn't read it well. What other meaning do these words convey in English abeg?

And please give me an example of what you feel positive propaganda will be as regards current governance/politics in Nigeria

I don't think Mesersyde Derby deserves the hype they regularly try to give it Sha.

For a long time now Everton has been useless and cannot go toe-to-toe with Loserpool to compete. The way dem dey wallop Everton almost everytimes always take away the thrill of a Derby.

Most other derbies like London Derby, Manchester Derby etc are always not as one-sided as this Mesersyde Derby jàre.

semid4lyfe:
Sometimes, what you think you know or have known all your life is wrong.

But I just showed u what the enyclopedia Britannica( the world oldest encyclopedia) defined as propaganda. And it aligns with what I've known propaganda to be all my life.

So is the encyclopedia wrong too?

izzou:
[color=royalblue]"To avoid explosion, do not answer phone calls in a Petrol station"

That's propaganda. But the aim is to ensure that the customer has all of their concentration on what they are doing. Nothing is going to explode because you answered a call.

Remove Nigerian politicians, positive propaganda exists, Blueraydick [/color]

I have just responded to this post in my last post before this one. I'm not talking about Nigerian politics in particular.

I know what propaganda is and I've know what it is not long time ago; long before I was even interested in Nigerian politics

izzou:
[color=royalblue] I'm not saying this because of the APC leader oh. I'm saying that any propaganda for a positive change is positive.

Parents use propaganda to teach their children good manners and behaviors. It's mostly to keep them safe.

Propaganda is almost everywhere, amd for many, it's to keep people in check.

If you remove Nigeria politics from this discussion, you will see positive propaganda [/color]

It's not just Nigerian politics I'm even talking about, I'm talking about propaganda in politics in general. It's the same thing everywhere.

Oppsoition will try to use propaganda to sway the people to believe they are better than the ruling class and if given a chance to rule they do things far better than the ruling class are presently doing.

The ruling party too will always deploy propaganda to project incumbent government's policies and programs. They will employ facts, half truths, deliberate omission of facts and even pedestrian arguments to convince the citizens that the government is doing the best they can. They can pick an economic report, turn it over its head to sell the idea that the economy is booming.

For example the government can tell you the GDP is growing and that means the citizens are better off than tbey were when the ruling party took over. But they will deliberately omit GDP per capital that has been on the decline, they will omit world bank data that claimed tens of millions of citizens have been thrown below the poverty level and also deliberately avoid talking about inflation rate.

Such government can do that with the aim of emitting positive reaction from the citizenry ; so they may call it positive propaganda. But I believe propaganda is propaganda

kodded:
propaganda means propagating an agenda

If the agenda is for the common good for all, then it's positive but if it's for the benefit of the one propagating it, then it's negative

It's not just agenda ; it includes facts, rumors, half-truths and even lies to influence public opinion.

That is the basic definition of propaganda. If u now want to move to positive propaganda then u can proceed from here to explain what positive propaganda is while not forgetting what propaganda is in itself

semid4lyfe:
You believe propaganda has only a negative connotation.

I believe it can be either positive or negative.

No problem. Morale low and I no get strength to engage you. Make we just agree to disagree agreeably.

Safe.

It's not about me believing whether it is positive or negative ; it's the definition of propaganda in government/politics I've known for a long time.

Dissemination of combination of truth, half-truths, rumors and facts.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Okay

If the half truth is going to bring a positive change, can we call it "Positive propaganda?"

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That person dey give u half truth already shows they are not being honest na.

See the half truths NNPC management gave about the state of our refinery over and over again. You see how everybody was elated at the news of the refinery being fully operational ; APC banger boys abused OBJ that said the refinery won't work years ago and the whole APC media were singing praises about how APC government finally made the moribound Warri and PH refineries work.

What happened when fact overtook the propaganda? 🧏