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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 2:21pm On Apr 15, 2025
afrodoc2:
I just pity that presenter wey dey use Queen's Yoruba hype them. Na him dey go first carry go police station. grin
Hahahahaha grin grin grin grin

I just had to go back and watch the studio video again; the weyrey presenter still dey do play on words " Eti mo wipe ipile ola , ola; ola...ola " grin

If people wey lose money grab that presneter guy ehn..
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 2:08pm On Apr 15, 2025
afrodoc2:
Yeah, got that. You are right they are in the minority. I just felt the woman in that video does not fall into that category.

Meanwhile, one manager at OSBC might be sweating and quaking in his/her boots now. There are questions that need answering. grin
Omo, the senior management of the station would've already had an earful from the DG or whoever is the political appointee heading the station. They will be somewhere now hoping the victims will face CBEX directly and not come for them.

I learnt over $800m was transferred by the people behind the CBEX platform to a particular crypto wallet before all CBEX accounts enter 0.00 shocked. These CBEX people really eat good from this scam o
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 1:44pm On Apr 15, 2025
afrodoc:
Exactly what I am trying to tell Blue.Ray.Dick.

Madoff is a very good example. People with top business acumen fell for what defied their own logic, mainly because of their greed.
I agree with the greed side 100% . I only said there are also people who are just ignorant(who are usually in the minority) and lack what it takes to know somebody promising u double of ur investment is a scammer.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 1:14pm On Apr 15, 2025
raumdeuter:
Na wetin carry me enter Nospecto, wealth solutions, club freedom in 2006 to 2007. When I go reach office and intelligent people even smarter than me are talking about how they are cashing out

I was now wondering that shey na like this VI and Island people dey make money and become millionaires and flenjor while we Egbeda and Oyo people will still be saving money under pillow and cursing govt
Na the ignorance I dey talk about be this .
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 12:51pm On Apr 15, 2025
afrodoc2:
This one you showed me is greed o. Talking about x 2 her money and things like that. Someone as financially illiterate as her who has no urge to magically double her money overnight would not do it. Was this woman not on earth during the recent MMM era. If you investigate deeply, the same way her neighbor advised her to do it, that is the same way some people around her would have advised her not to do it, but her greed won the day.
If she was financially literate, she will know there's no legit investment that can ever offer 100% ROI(At least not in an economy like Nigeria's). It's just that simple bro.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 12:31pm On Apr 15, 2025
Afrodoc this is one of the ignorant people I was talking about. If this person had financial literacy she won't "invest" the little savings she had remaining from her hustle in Libya.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 12:16pm On Apr 15, 2025
izzou:
[color=royalblue]I am very happy your example is from 2013.

Are there recent cases of these happening? Most likely no, because they have learnt as they moved on.

But year in year out, we keep seeing these things play out. Anybody can just wake up and do anything, because the government will not come after you at all.

SEC needs to do more than warning people. There should be serious consequences if you try to create all these ridiculous platforms as investments.[/color]
I posted evidence of EFCC arresting Ponzi scheme operators as recent as March 2025. But for real what is the entire workforce of EFCC that they will be able to clapmdown on all ponzi schemes?



SEC can only come out to tell u whether an investment platform is duly registered with them or not.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 12:13pm On Apr 15, 2025
izzou:
[color=royalblue]CBEX had offices. It's not like this scheme appeared overnight. It had been existing since last year. What stops the SEC from closing their offices and declaring Fatwa on them?

I am not blaming SEC. I am simply saying we should be proactive

CBN blacklisted some loan apps one time like that. They didn't have to wait till millions of Nigerians get caught in that web. They simply blacklisted them and made the place sane.

We need to make the country sane. If any Investment platform suffices, the SEC should do well to warn, and fish out those who are responsible for it.[/color]
There are several ponzi schemes springing up on a daily basis, we only know of CBEX because the promoters made a big bag.

People too should shun these ponzi schemes abeg. EFCC who have the job are actually going hard on these guys but Nigeria is a big country there's not much they can do to clamp down on them.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 11:56am On Apr 15, 2025
afrodoc2:
Yes, you are right that ignorance might be a factor in some cases, but in most cases, greed is the major reason. A small subset of people might be ignorant, but most people can't hide under that excuse.

How man Nigerians can still claim not knowing what Ponzi schemes look like after witnessing Umana Umana, Nospetco, MMM etc. Even an ignorant person who is not greedy would not fall victim cos it will sound too good to be true.

Greed is the essential ingredient needed to fall victim.
Yes greed takes the larger blame , only few victims are truly ignorant.

Like the ones that would listen to the OSBC program is posted the link up there and swallowed the CBEX lamba sold to them in Yoruba language on a radio program they have come to trust as always giving them authentic gist .
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 11:35am On Apr 15, 2025


So they actually advertised the CBEX ponzi scheme on a government owned radio station in Osun state? 😲
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 11:34am On Apr 15, 2025
iamoyindamola:
How many of these guys have been procecuted in nigeria
Several o, I dey always see EFCC dey post about some of them being prosecuted. It's just that most of them are not the popular and well known ones.

This is one of them :

https://www.efcc.gov.ng/efcc/news-and-information/news-release/10778-efcc-arrests-28-suspected-ponzi-scheme-operators-in-minna
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 11:15am On Apr 15, 2025
iamoyindamola:
Ponzi i just like drug addiction, the way govt aree very active to clamp it down they should be able to do so in ponzi
In response to izzou's point about it happening in the USA and their authorities acting swiftly , I came across a CNN post about the biggest ponzi schemes in America. The link is provided below:

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/04/24/business/famous-ponzi-schemes-generation-hustle/index.html

A particular one caught my interest and buttress my point that there's not much regulators like SEC in Nigeria can do. R. Allen Satnford masterminded a 20 year old ponzi scheme that duped over 30,000 investors before he was nabbed and sentenced to 110 years in prison.The guy made a whopping $7 billion while it lasted

If almighty America no fit do much within that 20 years his scheme lasted, wetin Nigeria's SEC wan come do? grin

Texas tycoon R. Allen Stanford masterminded a 20-year scheme via his offshore bank in Antigua, cheating almost 30,000 investors from more than 100 countries out of billions. The scam involved fake certificates of deposit, and prosecutors accused Stanford of funneling funds into his personal interests, including real estate and cricket tournaments. In 2012, Stanford was sentenced to 110 years in federal lockup.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 10:53am On Apr 15, 2025
izzou:
[color=royalblue]SEC should also be proactive.

Once you get any hindsight of a Ponzi, clamp down on it. Make the country sane. No be just to issue warning as if running a fraudulent scheme is not against the law

If I launch CBEX for USA, before I go even scam one person, dem don lynch me.[/color]
How will SEC clamp down on CBEX for example.

From the little I've read about the ponzi scheme, they have an app which people voluntarily register on and put their money on it. Shey SEC will pay hacker to hack the app ni or what ? What is the budget of SEC that they will spend substantial part of it doing radio jingle and TV adverts warning people every eke market day that a new ponzi scheme springs up?

As of this morning I don dey see people talking about another one that is still paying called PCEX or something like that. grin

SEC has always warned people about wonder banks and ponzi schemes. I won't blame SEC on this at all.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 10:46am On Apr 15, 2025
afrodoc2:
It is not really about lack of financial education but about innate greed and predilection for flouting rules and regulations. Nigerians always believe they are too sharp and can exploit the system. That is why even those that know it is a Ponzi scheme and doomed to fail, will get involved hoping to pull profit from it and exit before the roof collapses.
You are not wrong when say greed is one of the major reasons a lot of people get sucked-in on ponzi schemes, but you also should know that greed is not the only factor.

There are different categories of people who fall for ponzi scheme. There is a particular set of people who really don't know much about anything finance and investing. For example there are Alaba boys, Idumota boys, etc that the only way of investing they know is stocking their shop with goods and selling at cost price + profit margin.

These categories of people don't know about any other form of finance and always rely on word of mouth convincing and showing them evidence of what you made from any other "investment" for them to keep some of their funds there. If they are unfortunate to have an in-law or relative that has gone to school and comes around preaching any of these ponzi schemes, they will fall and lose money when the whole thing crash.

If someone like that has little financial education, he won't fall for such.

As for those who lose their money due to greed knowing it is a ponzi scheme, those ones deserve everything they are getting
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 7:02am On Apr 15, 2025
A lot of Nigerians come about money but they lack basic financial education.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 6:36am On Apr 15, 2025
ShaqFu:
The Hard Way (The Only Way) I remember that movie. Lol.

Beside, traditional banking system is actually designed to make the poor, poor. If I leave my 5OK for one year in the bank, how much interest will the bank pay? But with Ponzi schemes... Lol. grin grin

Like I said, these schemes bank on the ignorance and gullibility of Nigerians, and it works like magic.
The ponzi scheme will not even survive one year for you to even see your 50k sef whether it will increase or reduce 😂
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 6:34am On Apr 15, 2025
iamoyindamola:
I think this is where the ignorance play it part
Many that invested didn't know it's a ponzi because they feel ponzi works with referrals and it's not compulsory to bring in people in cbex
Anything that offers u ridiculous Return On Investment (ROI) which u can't find in the open market is a ponzi scheme.

When they start offering you ridiculous ROI, your church or mosque or shrine mind supposed make you ask questions : Where is the interest they are offering coming from?

Once you can't get a logical and satisfying answer, you should know what will come afterwards.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 6:30am On Apr 15, 2025
GloriousGbola:
Maybe it's me, but it looks like this cbex was completely under the radar. The ones before it, one heard of them because there was always someone who wanted you to join in. I am inclined to agree with you. In this case they focused on a demographic. Probably sold it as elite investment.

It is the old school yahoo boys who were actually intelligent imho. Most of these ones today are simply running templates and hoping to get lucky.
I also found out about the CBEX thing only about 2 weeks ago when it was already having problems. I think they targeted yahoo boys and all those crypto boys. It was done majorly on telegram and WhatsApp groups.

It was only when they were having issues they started bringing it to Twitter to discuss about it possibly going the way of MMM. They really picked their victims out.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 6:27am On Apr 15, 2025
ShaqFu:
Actually, the FG, did exactly that during the MMM saga. I remember how many Nigerians started attacking the government abusing them that they don't want the common man to be rich like them, bla bla bla. At the end of the day, the result was sorrow, tears and money down the drain.

To me, I believe it's their fundamental human right to throw their money into any illegal or even legal business they want to, after all, who will end up crying and losing. Lol
Ponzi schemes generally work on a principle that has always worked with the Nigerian people : Ponzi schemes will have you believe that the traditional banking and financial system is designed to make you poor. They make you believe whatever interest rate your normal investment in the Nigerian banking and financial system will give, you can get multiple of it in their scheme but the government and it's agencies don't want that for you

Once they have people believing this, they will offer ridiculous ROI that defies logic. They will see that for example Treasury bills backed by government will give you 18.5% interest rate per annum, then they will offer you 30% interest rate within a month. Do you know how crazy that is? You leave you money with them for 30 days and get 30% ROI ; meanwhile the FG backed investment expects you to leave your funds with government for a whole year and get 18.5% interest in return.

The average greedy Nigerian thinks it is a risk that is worth taking but they will later learn the hard way.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 6:18am On Apr 15, 2025
iamoyindamola:
SEC came out yesterday to say cbex is not registered, immediately people were investing I am sure they hear and know about it
That is when they should be singing that it's not registered, they left it took late
SEC from time to time have always maintained that ponzi schemes in general are organized scams. I know this from a young age reading The News magazine where they talked about " wonder banks" in the late 1990's and early 2000's.

SEC cannot be coming out evwrytime a new pnzi scheme comes to town na
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 6:03am On Apr 15, 2025
iamoyindamola:
That's what I told the idiot that wanted to drag me into this shit, I told him no investment can give you 100% profit unless it's illegal
I feel the government are not doing well too, they only react when it's late
What can the government do in this case?

Everything about the investment is done on an app and telegram groups. Shey make government dey hack the apps and telegram groups ni?

If government do that I'm sure we will fault the government for wielding illegal powers. You will be surprised at how sowore and professional activist will stage protests after protest for the government to allow people do whatever they want either money. The whole thing will take a politico turn sharply.

I think the relevant government agencies like CBN and SEC have always warned that all ponzi schemes are organized scams that will end in gnashing of teeth of "investors". But people no dey hear Noni
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 5:31am On Apr 15, 2025
iamoyindamola:
It's not cruise at all, the word on the streets is cbex is scamming yahoo boys and influencers
We have plenty stupid people in this country, they went from millionaire to nothing
Oh, more like the CBEX people picked a demography of people whom they know will not be able to come after them legally. And even if they shout from now till tomorrow, the government will not be able to fight on their behalf because of the source of the funds lost.

Now I get.

It's just some innocent people too who have the get Rich quick syndrome will lose legit funds in the process. Especially people who changed naira to dollars in order to join "the moving train"
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 5:27am On Apr 15, 2025
iamoyindamola:
That money no small at all
They said this guy allegedly lost $180k.

Something tells me most of the funds lost to this CBEX scam may most likely not be hard earned money from clean sources. Why on God's earth will I have anything above $50k and I will put it in any scheme that has no government security backing?

There are loads of low risk investment options u can put such amount of money and u will be earning steady passive income. Like u will just be telling Ur financial advisor to roll over every investment cycle?

A friend of mine who once worked in a finance house told me about some of their customers who have investments in excess of N100m who sometimes get as much as N2m to N3m on a monthly basis as interest. They just collect the interests regularly and ask the company to roll over the investment again.

I believe most people in this CBEX scam na people who think they are so wise and can always find ways to double their money outside the traditional finance system

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 5:13am On Apr 15, 2025
iamoyindamola:
No be juju be that
Now they are crying on X and tictok, dead body go surplus because the money people are losing is much o because it's in $
I even thought the whole thing was a cruise when I started seeing posts on Twitter talking about CBEX and people losing their money to it.

But now after seeing people having meltdown on Twitter about losing substantial sums ; I know people wey wise for this country no plenty at all.

Just go through this thread to laugh at people's stupidity and eventual gnashing of teeth

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 6:47pm On Apr 14, 2025
iamoyindamola:
Blueraydick

https://gofile.io/d/J3IVt2

But this is 1080 quality
Each episode is at least 1.5gb
Thanks, will download when I'm connected to wifi
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 6:44pm On Apr 14, 2025
TemporaryHansel:
The way people are being arrested for defamation is getting out of hand. Defamation is a civil matter. If anybody defame you take the person to court, arrest should only come into the equation if the defamer refuses to show up in court.
Portable is being charged for criminal defamation, intimidation, inciting public disturbance, and cyberstalking..

If u follow him or watch is videos concerning the whole saga, u will know that he's not just being held for defamation.

He used the music of an A-list fuji musician without the musician's approval neither did he give credit to the musician. Being signed on a global music label, the international management of the artist followed due process in having that particular portable's music yanked off all digital platform citing copyright infringement ( which is even a crime in Nigeria)

Now instead of Portable to collect the L and move on; he resorted to cyberstalking the artist. He kept on making videos attacking the person of the artist for having his music yanked off digital platforms. He even threatened him in one of his numerous videos ( which is another crime). He incited public disturbance by claiming in his videos that if anything should happen to him then Saheed Osupa should be ready for what comes after.

I believe Saheed Osupa was embarrassed by all portable's shenanigans and decided to test the law by writing a petition against Portable to the police for them to charge him to court. At least within 24 hours he has been charged to court and he has been granted bail.

If u ask me, Saheed Osupa hasn't done wrong for now. Let Portable face his warrant ; he should get a lawyer and prove his case in court
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 12:04pm On Apr 14, 2025
Ibime:
So it's a subtitled program. Una for declare that one early. I been done bookmark am but with this information I done bin am
It's in English. Some people like myself like watching English speaking series while reading English subtitles at the same time.

It helps to catch some words one may have missed reading their lips
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 8:03am On Apr 14, 2025
semid4lyfe:
BlueRayDick, the Season 3 of Tehran has been a difficult watch because the embedded subtitles are off.

Even the subtitles I downloaded myself do not match the dialogue.

Na so you take watch am?
I'm still stuck at episode one, I'm yet to really get into it cos of other shows I'm still watching. The subtitle is one of the things that also put me off and made me focus on other shows.

Maybe when I'm done with other shows I will have the patience to watch it without the subtitle sha
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 6:49am On Apr 14, 2025
Why we arrested Singer Portable
-Kwara police
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The Kwara State Police Command has confirmed the arrest of Habeeb Okikiola Badmus, also known in the entertainment industry as “Portable” following a petition received from one Mr. Okunola Saheed, popularly known as "Osupa," against Habeeb Okikiola Badmus a.k.a “Portable”.

The confirmation of the arrest of the controversial artiste is contained in a press release made available to journalists on Sunday night in Ilorin the Kwara State capital by the Police Public Relations Officer of Kwara Command, SP Adetoun Ejire-Adeyemi.

According to the statement, Police detectives of Kwara Command have taken lawful steps in line with due process to investigate the allegations.

Police authority further noted that the petition borders on serious allegations which includes criminal defamation, threat to life, incitement, character assassination, conduct likely to cause a breach of peace and the use of abusive and insulting words.

Police maintained that in view of the weight of the said allegations and the supporting evidence presented, the Command secured a valid arrest warrant from a Magistrate Court sitting in Ilorin.

Acting on this warrant, operatives from the Command proceeded to Abeokuta, Ogun State, on Saturday, 13th April 2025, where the suspect was apprehended at about 19:25hrs. He was immediately brought to Ilorin for further investigations.

Upon his arrival, the suspect's statement was taken in the presence of legal representatives from both parties and he is currently in custody and arrangements are being made to charge him to court without delay.

The State however submitted that the Kwara State Police Command remains committed to upholding the rule of law and ensuring that justice is served in a fair and transparent manner urging members of the public to remain calm and refrain from spreading unverified information.

IT IS WELL !!! Fenuwugate
Credit: Opeyemi promotions UK on Facebook.

Portable ọmọ olalomi was arrested by Kwara state police command officers in Abeokuta and was shipped to Ilorin, Kwara state immediately for the various offences he allegedly committed against the person of Saheed Osupa.

Portable alleged Osupa had his song yanked off digital platforms because he sampled one of his(Osupa's) songs. Osupa's management has come out to explain that Osupa is now under a global music brand that takes intellectual property law serious and they are the ones who took down portable songs even without Osupa having a say in the matter.

Portable being an illiterate doesn't care about the explanation and just thinks Osupa himself is the one behind his predicament. He keeps calling out Osupa, threatening him, inciting public hate against him and dragging his name in the mud.

My Opinion : I think Portable does these things to just remain relevant. He wants these controversies so he can record new singles from these ordeals
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 10:34pm On Apr 13, 2025
raumdeuter:
Condolences to those who invested their money in Cibex, the new MMM
The will never learn
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 4:42pm On Apr 13, 2025
iamoyindamola:
Oh
Okay you still pay 6k sub monthly too, I want to understand
Yes.

The monthly sub is 6konthly or 15k per 3 months.

U will pay that sub and all premium DSTV channels and more will show for u
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 4:36pm On Apr 13, 2025
iamoyindamola:
Abeg I need am
Beorn is Ur man.

The guy who does the installation will not do it for u even if I give u his contact. He's sensitive and will ask who referred u.

Try Pm Beorn make Una get alignment.

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