₦airaland Forum

Ibime:
There was no subsidy under Abacha except to Abacha, Mustapha and Sergeant Rogers

These are what Naira was exchanging for on official markets back then

https://www.cbn.gov.ng/IntOps/ExchRatePolicy.asp#:~:text=15%20per%20dollar%20in%201996,26%20per%20dollar%20in%201999.

Na so dem dey use Lamba to defend T-Pain and cover his ineptitude at all cost. T-Pain must not be criticized

Unfortunately, We shall awlays be there !

Awa lama ma wa, eyin la ma ma ba

sleekdot:
Music lyrics are telling stories of what happened then

You never ready.

sleekdot:
That is to show you that exchange rate that you wanted to hang Tinubu for got worse from Abacha to OBJ. That was a 500% increase in OBJ years

Lolz

U think u are talking to all these people u dey always turn amala beside the point with?

Ibime mentioned how how Nigerian economy grew significantly under OBJ, in fact it grew much more than it was under Abacha. What did u say to that? You dismissed the fact by claiming every government that takes over from a military government will do better than the military government.

Now that same u wants to cherry pick when its convinient for u by arguing exchnage rate under OBJ got worse by 500% compared to what it was under Abacha.

You need to pick a struggle, if u want a debate of OBJ vs Abacha's administrations u can it, and if u want a debate of OBJ vs T-Pain's administration u can also have it.

What I will not be doing with u is u poking OBJ here with Abacha's figures and shielding the failure T-Pain.

sleekdot:
Is it possible that those musicians were singing about a different country? or they were lying?

Nigeria has always been bad and getting worse with every regime

Is musical lyrics is a greater measure of economic growth than statistical data?

Yes or no.

popizaino:
Likewise me too but for the purpose of people who don't know my stand on OBJ,i will say it for the last time. The ebora owu has no moral right to criticise any Nigerian government. He should stfu and allow Tinubu government be.

Person wey Nigeria witness real economic growth, job creation, and reduced inflation under his tenure has no moral right to criticize a failing government ?

The delulu is real.

raumdeuter:
By the time Abacha was leaving Official Naira rate was 22 Naira during OBJ it got to 110 Naira. How many percentage increase was that

Is Abacha an APC president ?

When u are ready to discuss OBJ's achievement Vs the combination of APC presidents' achievements with facts, u will have my attention.

popizaino:
Let's focus on whether he is making sense or not than rather than making innuendos and coming up with baseless facts about someone on twitter or not.

Not everything is APC and Tinubu against the world. The fact that someone refuses to buy the whitewashing of Obj from you or anyone trying to do so as a better president doesn't mean that person is an AGBADOnica or what have you.

My focus was on if the guy was right with his tweet which you were trying to downplay because of your own personal disdain for Tinubu and APC. It shouldn't always be like that. Just like not everyone who supports Lghbt is not gay. Not everything is about agneda.There are gray matters in almost everything. You are not the same person you were yesterday.

Embrace change on some subject matters. The David hundeyin you all reverend was once against Paul Kagame style of leadership, but today has seen the light and embrace change and has not changed his political lining.

I can't make sense out of everything written here. Whatever point u are trying to raise, I have already addressed them in my previous posts.

OBJ performed better than any other Nigerian president since 1999 till date. Facts and figures support this. When u are ready to discuss that, please mention me.

I no get energy to dey repeat myself when u are not saying something new.

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
There's a clear difference. Putin and Russia is pivoting towards Eurasia and Asia for alliance and friendship. The big players in this continent are not members of ICC so they're not obliged to arrest him. So nothing go carry Putin go EU countries that are members of ICC. He will delegate such mission to Lavrov, Russian foreign minister.

While Israel is pro West, have key allies in the EU, Europe. All of them came out to announce they will arrest Benjamin Netanyahu if he visits.

This is also bad for US hegemony/influence, despite all the threats, visa ban for ICC prosecutors, they stood for the truth, which does not align with US national interest.

Let's watch as thing unfold.

It will be interesting to see any of the countries who are Israel allies arrest Netanyahu sha

seankafor:
Putin pass dia power combined

This might fly because USA is the major backer of ICC and also the major ally of Israel.. so something might come out of the warrant arrest

Read what u wrote again .

US did not enforce the arrest warrant against their number 1 enemy Putin, but they will enforce arrest warrant against their number 1 ally Netanyahu? How ? Why ?

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Meanwhile, ICC don cook finish

Ballzproblem

Your man go dey watch his movement now

Since march 2023 wey dem don issue warrant for Putin nobody has arrested him. I don’t think these things change anything

airmark:
You are just trying hard to muddle up the water thinking the real fish wouldn't be exposed.

This is your post that I emboldened. It's about supporters changing mouth regarding Seyi's wife's tribe and the rumour of him contesting to become the Governor. It has nothing to do with Obj.

I quoted and highlighted this in my response and you can't lie that this didn't relate to GRV. Come on dick!



Where is/was their mouth and where will they change it to?

Obviously, they will change mouth from GRV can't be Governor with a non-Yoruba wife to Seyi can, with a non-Yoruba wife.

So, asking me to quote where you mentioned GRV, was senseless. No offense.

I think we have gotten to the point where I will have to tell you to Kindly go warm eba chop

Shey take am easy make u no dey see GRV's face when u dey hump in the other room, cos this obsession that made to carry GRV enter my post ehn.....No be small obsession.

airmark:


There's no difference between you and the politicians y'all criticise for being deceitful.

If I may ask you, what was in their supporters mouth before and who were they against? Like you said earlier, we go school.

Look at the nonsense u just typed. You know what ur problem is ? It is the bias in ur mind which has obviously led u astray on this one.

I said they will change their mind Just like the ediot Daddy D.O changed his mind about OBJ being better than T-Pain;that was why I attached screenshot of his opinion in 2011 about OBJ vs Tinubu and his opinion in 2024 about same individuals.

That is not even a task that involves using 5% of one's brain to figure out. But somehow ur biased mind led u to believe I was talking about GRV and u just jumped into such conclusion without even thinking twice

I have always mentioned it here that T-Pain's supporters always change their opinion once their demi-god is involved and I still hold the same belief about Seyi Tinubu clinching Lagos state governorship ticket in 2027.

I mean the someone like the Ayofe Abdullah guy on twitter who says people like u should not be doing mix breeding with other tribes will suddenly think it is a good thing to do once again because T-Pain's son is involved.

So u see now that Canadian loud and ur biased mind is what led u to believe I had any yeye GRV in mind .

airmark:
I am not defending anyone, I was just asking you to stop being economical with the truth about GRV and why he lost.

You wouldn't have typed all these if you have an unbiased mind and decided to reminisce on why the same APC didn't use Adeleke and Makinde's wives' tribes to campaign against them. But I understand you are like a focused man on a mission, whose eyes are only on his target.

This must be Canadian loud in action, if not please show me anywhere GRV was mentioned in my initial post you responded to .

I hope u don't see GRV in ur sleep at night

Amigoss:
The fact say Una dey overlook stats and economic indices but make reference to music sang in that era dey muzz me....

In future, as musicians no dey sing social conscious music again but "she tell me say",Big 7,twe twe...una go spin the narrative to tell us all was well under buhari and tinubu cos no one sang about this mess we are currently in

I think say na only me noitice am, I no know say u sef dey see the kolobi dance around stats and economic indices.

Na all of us go school , na almost everybody do Economics in secondary school as a compulsory subject. Oya make dem bring figure of the number of people living in extreme poverty under OBJ and juxtapose it with those currently under T-Pain; everybody dey lockup. Na to dey dwell on Lyrics of music be the in-thing now.

Victor Olaiya released Ilu Le o(Country Hard) in 1983. Should we now say Nigerian economy is better today then then because of the Lyrics of the song that says both male and female are wailing because of the hardship in the land?

Ibime:
OBJ is the greatest President in Nigeria's history and probably the only one who improved life from his predecessor.

Every other President dropped living standards from where the predecessor left it

OBJ was the only one with a clear financial strategy and instituted a savings culture to ensure that future generations could have funds to live on via the Excess Crude Account

Make Raumdeuter no see this thing wey u type so o, he fit off cloth follow u fight gidigbo wrestling on top am.

Itsrm:
Bro, I've said it before, if we can take the economy back to 2014-2019, I don't mind going back to the salary I was earning then.

I remember importing a vehicle, received salary, paid to clear the car and had enough money left to fix it.

My salary now cannot even clear a 2003 Corolla .

Look at cars for example. People no longer buy car because it's too expensive, vulcanisers have less work to do, mechanics are snoring in their shops, filling station owners sell less fuel, shops doing tire balancing and alignment have less work to do, vehicle part sellers sell less. Everything along the value chain gets affected. How exactly will the economy grow? How will government earn taxes when businesses make losses?

And someone is blaming Obasanjo and and Jonathan when the problem is clearly self inflicted.

Baba mi, Companies like Nestle, MTN , Nigerian Breweries , etc that people are looking up to are making losses; so what is the fate of Mukaila auto workshop ? If big companies that pay big taxes are making losses, shey na Muri wey be vulcanizer go come dey sustain the economy with his meagre income?

Nigerians never really get a grip on how bad things are.

More and more people just keep getting thrown down below poverty line.

It's like people don't even know what is going on.

As at this time last year the naira exchanged to a dollar for N795.41, A year after the exchange rate is N1680.95. That is a whopping N885.54 difference and we are here wondering why prices of commodities keep soaring high, we are talking about OBJ not being better than Tinubu

In the words of Charly Boy : OUR MUMU NO TOO MUCH ?

iamoyindamola:
Know this and know peace

izzou:
[color=royalblue]And that is the problem I see here.

The reason why OBJ's time is good, is because there is a "Worse" to compare it with.

I was a child then, but we complained. Our parents complained. We thought and knew we deserved better.

Was it not OBJ's time that made Oshiomole a hero with his numerous strikes, especially for fuel increment?

Nigeria has always been bad. The only constant K is that, for every new tenure, the previous one becomes better

20 years from now, children today will tell you Buhari was good, afterall, he left fuel at 200, and they are buying it 2,837/ltr[/color]

The bold would've been correct if the attached data did not exist.

If u look at the data u will see that OBJ met the economy 4cked and unfucked the country between 1999-2007. Yar Adua building on OBJ's successes further unfucked the country and grew the economy further between 2007 to 2010 . After Yar Adua's demise, Jonathan 4cked the country between 2010 to 2015.

Now pay attention; Jonathan's 4ckery of the Economy is nothing compared to what was witnessed under Buhari's regime between 2015 to 2023. T-Pain is there now and the figures down here has shown that for T-Pain to be able to lace OBJ's boot economically, he will have to do more this Agbado economics, divisive politics and appointing gazillion spokespersons to attack anybody that criticizes his government's failure.

Every government has its failures but it is not always true that for every new tenure, the previous one becomes better

GloriousGbola:
https://www.nairaland.com/8272746/court-grants-chinese-firm-right

the evil that the short man devil of ogun state is living on after him and fking us all in the aarse

Why can't Nigeria just engage this Chinese company in Alternative Dispute Resolution. Why can't FG reach an out of court settlement with the company instead of all these embarrassing court judgments every fortnight?

I mean the FG should talk to them and know what can placate the company and try work something out for them. All these court judgement against Nigeria don't make Nigeria look good at all.

If FG come to an agreement with them, then they should deal with the ex-Ogun governor internally. They know the location of all his assets within the country, let them confiscate his properties, sell them off and use the proceed to pay part of what the Chinese companies are trying to recover from us. Use it to send warning to other people like him that are power drunk and don't care about the consequences of their actions while in power.

Itsrm:
Have you noticed that, those who support Tinubu are the ones who demonise Obasanjo.

Once you clock this fact, you won't waste your time trying to convince them. Obasanjo like Jonathan has to be pulled down to justify the hardship, hunger and erosion of our purchasing power by the APC led government in the last 9 years.

You hit the nail on the head with the bolded. It's obvious they don't see their principal surpassing his predecessors in terms of verifiable evidences, so they resort to pull down his predecessors to justify his failure.

Some of us complaining have had substantial increase in our income in the past 9 years under APC rule but due to APC's misgovernance the cost of living keeps catching up with our augmented income year-in year-out. Instead of APC government fixing the economy, they keep focusing on the wrong things like blaming PDP throughout Buhari's 8 years,Blaming Buhari for Tinubu's obvious failures etc. Na God remain make dem blame.

It's even annoying that the same people who clapped for Buhari all through his disastrous 8 years are the one claiming T-Pain is doing well today.

swiz123:
Please, do not insult OBJ by placing him anywhere beside this cancer.

Under him, mechanics owned story buildings which they rented out, civil servants owned good cars and bought landed properties, carpenters could afford to erect a decent 3 bedroom in their villages, bus drivers were land owners, and finally, the most important metric to measure economic progress — businesses experienced high turn overs. There was always something for those who worked hard, skilled or unskilled.

In the east, his name was changed from Obasanjo ( Njo means bad or ugly) to Obasamma ( Mma means good or handsome), for his obvious good leadership made the Igbos choose to see him as a handsome man as well.

Since dem born me na whitewashing people’s image I dey hear about . People trying to whitewash their fave’s image years after they leave office . If I don’t remember anything , at least I remember Popizaino trying to whitewash Abacha’s image .

In 2024 Popizaino strikes with another one “ black washing “ . He’s trying to blackwash OBJ’s administration after prospering under OBJ’s administration: no be juju be that ? 🤷‍♂️. Person wey we Dey follow groan under T-Pain’s administration open mouth begin Dey talk say OBJ was not better 🤮

Spy360:
Even Airmark and Raumdeuter are now speaking from one corner of their mouths 😂

E don reach Seyi, being married to an Igbo woman is now fashionable.

Seyi Tinubu himself used his wife to campaign for votes for his father. He said I am married to an Igbo woman vote for my father. Let agbadorians continue to deceive themselves and change mouth like ashawo pant 😂

The kind bitter politics played in 2023 ehn….

Below is a wise counsel back then pointing it out that these things may not affect u today but can affect u in the future ; but u know for argument sake they won’t agree with him. They he wants “shinedu” to rule over a “bonafide Lagosian “

Olowunl01:
So you mean to tell us that voting GRV as bonafide lagosian as any means Igbo taking over lagos whilst voting Sanwo Olu is Yoruba Project?

Bro it is possible that these people are feeding you with false info or their own bias views; cos the only significant event that rised the tempo of Lag Governorship election was Obi LP winning lagos in presidential, prior to that GRV was a non factor, the gov election was a shoe-in for Sanwo Olu.. All these tribal ish heightened after the presidential.


And we have the gall to call out southie as being xenophobics; when our children start getting the usual go back to your country even though the Abroad is the only country they know - we should remember these periods as well, what happened at the weekend is despicable - what is bad is bad; I shudder what could have played out if an full Igbo person contested instead of GRV.

raumdeuter:
Change mouth from what to what? Abi na today we dey get non Yoruba's to be Governors spouses in the SW.
Adeleke himself is probably half Yoruba

Change mouth from what this ediot said to something else when it involves their principal’s son.

airmark:
I know you know that Gbadebo was the architect of his fall (did he rise?), with his vitriol on the tribe that Lagos belongs to. Nothing stops you from telling it as it was, though I know you are against Tpain and all related to him.

Mocking the tribe you would later govern was enough reason for his opponents to bring out all weapons and shot him down. You shouldn't defecate on the plate you will use to eat.

Yorubas are accommodating and GRV's misfortune had next to nothing to do with his wife being Igbo. Makinde and Adekeke's wives are not Yorubas but I am not sure Seyi and the dancing governor were disrespectful to their tribe before becoming the Governor. Same for Akeredolu until his wife showed her disgraceful colour.

Yorubas like and encourage mutual respect and you must understand that.

Nothing concerns me with Gbadebo . U can clearly see I do not pander to him from day one . I was one of the people who questioned his ambition to govern a people he doesn’t speak their language ; I did the same for Ighodalo in Edo when I heard same about him. That’s consistency , not changing mouth every eke market day.

All these preaching u are doing to me , u should send it to the numerous blue ticks on twitter paid to spread hate and make it seem like marrying from outside the Yoruba tribe is now a crime.

If Akeredolu’s wife shows her disgraceful color, does it make any sense that those ediots start pushing agenda that other Yorubas should stop marrying non Yoruba spouses ? Isn’t it fooolishness on their part to start generalizing by using the behavior of an individual to paint a whole group of people ?

Perhaps the people u are stylishly defending now should’ve remembered the Adelekes married outside their tribe , Makinde married outside his tribe and even T-Pain’s heir married outside his tribe . Maybe if they do , we won’t be having this discussion .

As regards ur beloved T-Pain, if u are looking for love for him so much ; tell him to fix the mess he has created and he will be commended . When he initiated the student loan scheme , I commended it and I still think it’s a good initiative . But I know u will only see the times I criticize him cos that’s what u are programmed to do.

popizaino:
I know you detest Tinubu and APC but is there anything in his tweet that isn't correct? Tinubu might be dealing with us but that does not mean the ebora Owu was any better.

Ur case is different , u are not on twitter so I understand u are oblivious of the discussions that has been going on in the past few weeks .

There’s been call that Yorubas should stop marrying non Yorubas because of Akeredolu’s wife vitriol . One of those making the call is the block head in the picture below .

If u have time , go through his tweets u will see the exact tweet there . I remember people telling him that his suggestion makes no sense because u don’t pick who a man marries for him , but he kept on insisting that going forward political posts should be denied people who have married from other non Yoruba speaking tribes .

These guys are spreading hate because of political difference and it appears their principals are okay with it for now .

I said they will change mouth because it’s obvious they always change mouth once an issue affects their principal like the guy in the pictures I attached earlier .

These things are easy for smart people to understand ; it’s not rocket science .

If u want to continue deluding urself that OBJ was not and will continue to be better than Tinubu , goodluck to u!

Theflint1:
Tinubu having his son run for governor of Lagos will be the most audacious thing the man ever did, it's crazy enough that he's had Lagos in his pocket for as long as he has, but would be another thing altogether if he attempts to pass control over to his son.

Those talks of where a governors wife comes from is one of those things politicians throw at their vuvuzelas to keep them busy, if Seyi intends to run, where his wife comes from will probably be the least of the battles he'd be facing.

The bold is u thinking that T-Pain actually gives a 4ck about optics ; he doesn’t ! That was how most people were thinking in late 2021 when rumors of T-Pain contesting was flying around ; most people thought it was too audacious for him a kingmaker to want to be king. Today we know better ; so no take that rumor of Seyi for governor play o.

As regards the ethnicity of Seyi’s wife , u will be surprised how their supporters will change mouth the moment Seyi clinches the ticket . No be today dem Dey change mouth ; look at the foool below for example . He witnessed T-Pain tenure as governor and OBJ’s tenure as president and he assessed them accordingly , today e don change mouth Dey write epistle to the people of AGBADOnica ✍️

iamoyindamola:
You see why I hate the fool
Person get backing na

It’s just a shame that the government and its agencies will look away when their loyalists/supporters fall foul of the law but when others do same they will quickly start forming “proactive “ government .

Yesterday I was reading about a leadership tussle in Ladipo market and despite court order one of the factions wanted to conduct elections illegally . In the process of enforcing the court order , the police rightly arrested the guys planning to conduct the illegal election .

Now on MC issue the court has sacked him as the president but he’s not only parading himself as chairman but has even resumed at the national secretariat . Shebi that’s complete disregard for court order and ideally the security agencies should pick him up ? I’m sure he probably has police escorts following him around as we speak .

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Person don defy Court of Appeal order.

We are almost getting there

E remain small.[/color]

He is simply saying : If the court doesn’t like it, they should go to court 😁

CrystalTiger:
Since the judges are busy collecting gifts from politicians..One day a sitting governor will be sacked and he'll refuse to vacate the government house..

We will get there one day .

When he threatened to assault voters in 2023 , it was the police spokesperson that was doing shalaye on his behalf and waived the threat away.

When the threat was eventually carried out on Election Day, the police didn’t arrest him nor his underlinings who carried out the threat.

We are gradually getting to that point .

Sambo has to be the most reclusive politician that ever made it to the top in this country.

Even after exiting the VP role, you don't even hear or see him trying to be power broker or anybody's godfather. The man just dey airplane mode dey enjoy his life codedly devoid of any political wahala

ouzo1:
Dem no go pay am if him run o cuz members of the congregation go surely see am.

That's where miracle comes in; Na miracle heal them na