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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 7:58am On Jun 04, 2024
sod09:
Above 60k is 60001
If I were the government that's what I will do and if ajaero try another strike he will end up in prison because the agreement is above 60k and 60001 is above 60k
That will only lead to another round of strike which is not in the FG’s favor . They won’t be fooolish enough to go that route all over again.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 7:33am On Jun 04, 2024
In a press briefing addressing the potential impact of Silicon Valley Bank’s failure on Nigerian businesses, Emefiele asserted that bank depositors are the ultimate owners of banks since they have more to lose than shareholders. He emphasized, “I would rather dispose of shareholders than make depositors lose money,” a policy he maintained throughout his tenure.
Hmmmm. Well, there’s wisdom in what Emefiele was doing which is summarized above , but it imposed serious moral hazard . It allowed major shareholders who ran the banks to the ground to escape .

There’s also sense in this Cardoso’s approach of not rescuing the banks but something must give.

I think they need to revisit and review the amount of depositors fund that are insured with NDIC . That current N500k is too small. If CBN under Cardoso has chosen to allow market forces prevail , then they should review the amount of depositors fund that can be recoverable in the event a bank fails .

Itsrm:
This may interest you BlueRayDick

https://nairametrics.com/2024/06/04/unlike-emefiele-heritage-bank-closure-shows-cardosos-cbn-is-willing-to-let-banks-fail-2/
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 6:33am On Jun 04, 2024
Itsrm:
While I would have preferred they remain on strike while they continue negotiations, even if they call it off, it's a win.

The government has committed to going above 60k which they weren't willing to do before. They also have one week to come up with a reasonable offer or strike returns.
One of the issues we have as citizens and which is part of why we are where we are today in Nigeria is the fact that we always channel our anger towards the wrong set of people .

The government has had one full year to keep its house in order and come up with something reasonable as new minimum wage; that was not done. The government removed subsidy which led to general rise in the price of goods & services ; the government claimed it has saved trillions over the past one year since the removal of subsidy . Oya let the government show workings on how hardship the people faced due to its policies can be cushioned e turn stories .

The labour union said enough is enough and decided press the government for neck and suddenly u see people getting angry with the labour . Suddenly everybody is unaware that people die daily from power failure in govt hospitals .

When people say “one day Nigerians will wake up” , “ The Arab spring might be a child’s play to what will happen in Nigeria if our government are not careful “ , etc. I always tell myself it may likely not happen in our lifetime.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 5:57am On Jun 04, 2024
sod09:
More than 60k 🤣🤣🤣
E no fit better for this ajaero why did you waste our time for this nonsense
Blueraydick you see why shutting down the power grid was a stupid move
The agreement wasn't even specified enough yet this slowpoke signed it
His balls should be cut off because he doesn't deserve it I knew he would fold
Why start something you can't finish
Do u think if they didn’t do what they did , FG will agree to add any kobo to that 60k ? The same FG that dragged foot on this matter for a whole year ?


Na because dem hold dem for blokus na
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick:
afrodoc2:
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Cos both countries are quite different. A lot of those people that lost their jobs in the UK still have access to a level of free quality healthcare and welfare benefits that is unattainable to the average Nigerian.

You now add the emotional torture of seeing the politicians that put you in this nasty position all driving around in their customized luxury cars and building mansions with their ill-gotten wealth.

The day Nigerians check the country's expiry date and realize the country expired a long time ago, that is the day the leaders will feel the pain.
The bold has always been my grouse and that’s why I don’t look at people always defending/making excuses for politicians online with good eyes at all.

Ur tax gets deducted at source (an amount u don’t naturally feel like paying sef in the first place ) , then u start hearing of how a politician embezzled billions of public funds , how a regular Joe suddenly became a billionaire spending less than 4 years in politics , etc. These things irks me so much .

U pay taxes and u still have to drive on terrible roads because somebody has embezzled the funds for the roads construction or the politicians have spent it on frivolous things. Then u have people fighting tooth and nail to defend such people .

All these minimum wage discussion is even centered around money that can at least feed the workers . Nobody has talked about affordable healthcare now; it appears everybody don agree to go back to herbs cos with the exit of pharmaceutical companies drugs are freaking expensive now .
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 10:09pm On Jun 03, 2024
Itsrm:
I visited someone who gave birth within the week and she was lamenting that unlike before when people give gifts, most people were giving her money.

People have calculated that 2 or 3k will not buy anything reasonable so they just give her the money grin
😂

Before nko? Once they give u envelope, u can’t claim the person didn’t try . People just Dey use sense manage themselves now.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 9:59pm On Jun 03, 2024
“The notice of strike was too short. It was given from the negotiation table and it was 48 hours or less. The approach of the current crop of NLC leaders is aggressive, arrogant, fascist and partisan. The body language is unmistakable. It is directed at bringing the government down. This NLC has no respect for the rule of law, not even an iota of decorum for democratic practices.

“If we cannot speak for the government, what about Nigerian Muslims whose lives your strike could turn into a sheer nightmare? Is this a deliberate attempt to make life uncomfortable for Muslims? Will NLC declare a strike one week before Christmas? Or is this about bringing down our Muslim-Muslim ticket? Is this part of the ‘religious war’ of ‘Yes Daddy’?

“This strike is ill-timed. It is a recipe for a topsy-turvy Salah. We advise NLC to postpone it till after the Salah. If NLC rejects our advice and goes ahead with its satanic strike, we will ask all Muslim workers who know that they will meet Allah yaom al-Qiyaamah (The Last Day) not to cooperate with NLC. They should reject the strike because it is an assault on the religion of Islam.
@ sod09 just imagine wetin prof. MURIC Dey yarn for mouth .

The guy doesn’t even care about Muslims whether rich or poor , he just wants to shamelessly act as a wing of the APC and that’s all.

He refused to talk about that fact that FG had a full year to meet with the labour union and come
Up with a reasonable revised minimum wage o; he just wants to delve into politics at all cost .

Now I think I remember the man sef. I remember he used to anchor one program on MITV that year on Sundays . I remember how my dad despite being a Muslim usually fumes at some of his extremist views on issues o live TV .
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 9:45pm On Jun 03, 2024
nihilistjnr:
You are conflating a political issue with an economic one.

Election costs millions of dollars in expenditure and alliances. Politicians must recoup. That's the unfortunate nature of the beast that there's no point arguing.

The issue here is whether trebling or quintipling minimum wage is a feasible solution to a cost of living crisis driven by inflation. There's on upper limit on the cost of goods and services, so when retailers hear that cleaners are now earing 100k, prices will go up and only find equilibrium when the purchasing power of 100k is on par with the old 30k salary...and then what happens next? Another strike?

I don't envy anybody involved because I don't think there's a solution that works for everybody on the horizon.. Nigeria is just too fückef at the current time. That's why I've been a japa proponent for a long time.
We actually discussed this earlier today and I also believe the minimum wage increment will lead to an increment in inflation in the long run.

But it appears the labour unions are all about the short run for now; and the people are with them on that this far.


Yes there’s the political aspect to this crisis and there’s the economic aspect too. The whole subsidy removal thingy , floating of Naira and increment in electricity tariffs is what led us to this point . It’s a combination of political and economic issues intertwined .

It is normal for the people not to see any sense in a n economic solution that has not addressed the lingering political problems . Something must give
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 9:30pm On Jun 03, 2024
Itsrm:
100k is no longer what you think it is. If you come back to Naija today, you will blow that 100k faster than you'll finish one cigarette cheesy
Around early April , a bottle of Jameson Black Barrel Irish Whiskey is about 51k in store . That’s not Hennessy o , not Martel o.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick:
nihilistjnr:
100-150k minimum wage for a lastma street sweeper or LGA cleaner sounds insane sha.
That’s because u still Dey use olden days eyes to look the Naira value .

When minimum wage was increased to N18,000, a bag of foreign rice was sold for around N9,500 which means a minimum wage earner’s salary can buy almost 2 bags of rice .

Today minimum wage is N30,000 and it can barely buy half bag of rice .

Nigeria don hard gan and the government seem not to have solution. The political class keep making adjustments to their own income in line with inflationary rates , but why can’t they do same for the masses ?

Why did the office of Chief of staff have an increased allocation from what it was under Buhari’s govt but same can’t be done for the masses in the workforce ?

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 8:15pm On Jun 03, 2024
OkpaNsukkaisBae:
You dey mind useless good for nothing APC apologist. Na so dem dey corner Lagos, but Nigeria is bigger than Lagos.
liveLongNprospa:
Lmaoo.. Apc be thugs normally.

Oya wait for denial😁
I don’t even understand why they think show of force will achieve anything at this point .

Only God knows who advises these people sef
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 7:37pm On Jun 03, 2024
See the people una want make labour dialogue with ….. smh 🤦‍♂️

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 6:40pm On Jun 03, 2024
Segedinho:
Lols..


Onku say he raise point but quickly shook in extremely poor country...



I think say dem don ban ment....

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 6:33pm On Jun 03, 2024
liveLongNprospa:
APPEAL TO ORGANISED LABOUR, BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OF NIGERIA

This is a heartfelt and deeply considered appeal to the Labour Unions to continue along the path of negotiations with the Federal and State Governments, under the auspices of the Tripartite Committee that has been established to fashion out a new, realistic minimum wage for the Nigerian people.

As Government, we are desirous of a peaceful outcome, and we will do everything to make this happen. Yesterday, the leadership of the National Assembly met with the Unions. Today, we have offered another invitation to the Unions, to meet with us and continue our discussions.

We will continue to engage, and continue to make ourselves very available in the context of these negotiations on behalf of the Nigerian people

Let me make it clear that we are not opponents on this negotiating table. We are united by the fact that we want the best for the Federal Republic of Nigeria and for all 200 million citizens of the country.

We have a responsibility to strike a measured and realistic balance, in this effort to arrive at a new minimum wage for Nigerians.

Let us remind ourselves of the fundamental facts:

The minimum wage is not only for public sector workers. It will be binding on the private sector as well. This reality must be factored into the negotiations.

As I have explained earlier, Labour’s current proposal of N494,000 is an increase of 1,547 percent on the existing wage, and translates into an annual wage bill of 9.5 Trillion Naira for the Federal Government of Nigeria alone.

This is apart from its cost implications for subnational governments and private sector employees. Such a wage bill would cripple the Nigerian economy, by leading to massive job losses especially in the private sector.

The National Consumer Credit Scheme and the Nigerian Education Loan Fund (NELFUND) are additional significant demonstrations of a determination to bring relief to the people of Nigeria.

We want the Labour Unions to understand that the relief that Nigerians are expecting, and that they fully deserve, will not come only in the form of increased wages. It will also come as efforts to reduce the cost of living, and to ensure that more money stays in the pockets of Nigerians.

President Bola Ahmed Tinubu (GCFR) is firmly committed to doing what is right, reasonable and sustainable regarding these minimum wage negotiations. We call on the Labour Unions to reciprocate this gesture in the interest of the nation.

I thank you for listening.

Mohammed Idris
Minister of Information and National Orientation
Abuja, Nigeria
June 3, 2024




So humble
This one still makes sense than the nonsense Bayo Onanuga was spouting earlier .

As per the bolded , while they are highlighting the labour union’s demand is 1,500% increment from the current minimum wage ; they should do well to tell us the percentage increase in general inflation rate , the percentage increase in fuel price , the percentage increase in electricity cost , the percentage increase in food inflation , etc .

As regards the over 400k demand of the labour unions , every reasonable person knows it is only normal for labour to start with a higher figure before they negotiate downwards to a middle ground . Nobody expects that amount to be what the labour will insist on.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 6:26pm On Jun 03, 2024
larride:
Shey I told you there was no recovery path for the bank. Them don run ham into the ground
Now I agree with u. Omo! How much come be the bank capital base if one man don already move 49 billion ?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 5:52pm On Jun 03, 2024
larride:
Nothing concern Mr Bayo with all these one you are typing o.

I do agree with your submission though.
Omo , I just understood the Heritage wahala now. I just read that last year their head of IT diverted 49 billion into third party account and disappeared ; even at a time the bank was having issues with its Capital Adequacy Ratio.

That bank had died a long time ago
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 5:23pm On Jun 03, 2024
izzou:
[color=royalblue]Day 2 - Extra 4000 bodies
By Wednesday - Death toll rises to 12,000

grin grin grin

Weyrey people. [/color]
Dem go turn am to COVID-19 death toll count grin

Omo! U have to give kudos to APC on top that propaganda matter, dem sabi am die!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 5:11pm On Jun 03, 2024
izzou:
[color=royalblue]Grid dey collapse for days and never have we heard of the government reporting casualties

NLC switch am off for one day, and over 4000 Nigerians have died.[/color]
Miracle no dey tire Master Jesus grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 5:09pm On Jun 03, 2024
larride:
Are you just knowing Bayo Onanuga? grin

I'm surprised you are surprised by his statement. What he is doing is what he is paid to do.
The more reason why I believe he's too hot-headed to be a government's official spokesperson. He doesn't address issues but dwells so much on politics.

He's at best fit for a political party's spokesperson; a person in which he can attack any opposition party he so pleases. A government's official spokesperson should be cool headed, if possible a public relation expert and not necessarily a journalist who became a poltician
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 5:01pm On Jun 03, 2024
larride:
They are government spokesperson now, what do you expect them to say really?

They'll try to deflect from the issue on ground, it's what they are paid for.
See ehn, there are better ways of doing the job of a government's spokesperson. It doesn't necessarily need to be about u going combative with the other party.

NLC and TUC are labour unions ; Like them or hate them, their existence is guaranteed by labor laws and u will always have to deal with them on workers welfare. There's no need to start making it seem like u are ready to spar with them in a combat.

A spokesperson to government should be telling a story that the government is trying its best to have the grievances of the workers addressed. Simple! This is not a time to be playing politics since we all agreed the government cannot afford to allow the strike to linger too long.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 4:54pm On Jun 03, 2024
liveLongNprospa:
I actually dey disappointed in Obi sha.

This particular situation, I expected baba to be lending his voice to add pressure for demands to be met.
He never put mouth, Bayo Onanuga said NLC and TUC are members of labour party so they are only playing politics. By the time Obi put mouth, dem fit talk say na him call Ajaero on phone to declare strike grin

They will be acting as if they are not in this country seeing how people are suffering
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 4:46pm On Jun 03, 2024
liveLongNprospa:
Lmaooo these are the people you want to be reasonable with.
People that have not said a word about the power supply of hospitals since.
Or the overworked medical workforce.

A part of me hopes this doesn't stop
I detect the fact that they are always taking combative approach to issues that are of critical importance.

The government u are acting as spokesperson for has failed to come up with something reasonable as minimum wage a year after it removed subsidy hurriedly and the country started battling hyper inflation. The labour union representing the people have decided enough is enough and the next thing u are doing as a spokesperson is to start making political statements. Smh

I don't know who taught people like Onanuga that the government must always fight labour. These people don't even know they are there to serve the people and not there to lord over us. undecided
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by BlueRayDick: 4:38pm On Jun 03, 2024
Spy360:
Madrid without Kroos will not be the same again. It is almost impossible to replace him in that diamond midfield Ancelotti loves to play.
There's no player Madrid cannot replace
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 4:34pm On Jun 03, 2024
sod09:
The most useless body in the country
I really don't know what is wrong with those people. They are doing as if when labour eventually gets to negotiate something better for the works it won't affect their own members whom they claim to be speaking for.

At least of they don't have anything reasonable to contribute at this moment, they should just shut up angry
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 4:32pm On Jun 03, 2024
“It’s saddening that Labour could go to this extreme. But it is not surprising to the perceptive minds. Labour is harming the Nigerian people they claim to be fighting for. Today, many sick Nigerians cannot access medical care at government hospitals.

“Not even those with critical medical conditions. It appears labour is playing politics by other means. Many of the affiliates of the two central unions, NLC and TUC are members and supporters of the Labour Party.

“They logically bear ill will and grudges against the Tinubu administration. Otherwise, the issue they claim to be fighting for cannot be resolved by blackmail or sabotage, they cannot even be resolved by the Federal Government unilaterally, the Labour leaders will still have to return to the negotiating table.”
Make una hear wetin Bayo Onanuge dey talk. Instead of making statements like" We are working to ensure issues between FG and Labour are sorted out ASAP" ; he's busy making political statements .

Hear him making everything about polictics.

See ehn, if NLC had only stopped at blocking NASS and secretariat ; people like Bayo Onanuga will end up using propaganda to politicize everything noni
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 4:21pm On Jun 03, 2024
Itsrm:
That alternative is not an option. grin

We can't even complain. The man don try
Y'all saw it coming.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 4:17pm On Jun 03, 2024
larride:
The situation in the country is beyond critical. Na why I dey tell you and Blueray for morning say wetin that man dey yarn for that interview ma medium/long term solution.

Minimum wage need to increase immediately to at least help workers to survive.
This country ehn....The funny thing is even if minimum wage is increased sef, it might take more than a year for government to start paying it. That is another battle waiting ahead
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 4:15pm On Jun 03, 2024
sod09:
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 4:05pm On Jun 03, 2024
Itsrm:
Meanwhile, hand don touch oga landlord too. cheesy

I'm sure raumdeuter and GloriousGbola are happy now grin
The man say he no want piece meal by piece meal rent grin

The letter is very brief and straight forward; he even provide alternatives sef
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 3:55pm On Jun 03, 2024
MURIC says no to strike. lol grin

They should declare MURIC an arm of APC make everybody rest

https://www.nairaland.com/8113360/muslims-say-no-nlc-tuc
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 3:53pm On Jun 03, 2024
larride:
When doctors strike, I hope you know it doesn't affect all other healthcare workers (if I'm wrong unlimited22 and afrodoc2 should correct me please).

Nurses, lab technicians and the likes still go to work even when doctors are on strike only that you wont be able to meet with doctors.

But when you shutdown hospital, all health workers wont be on ground. There's a huge difference between both of the situation o.
What do u think hospital is without a doctor? I dey tell u wetin I don experience life and direct.

Shebi it is the medications doctors who examine u prescribe that nurses on ground will administer. If Lab technicians are on ground, will u just carry urself to lab technician and ask them to conduct test that was not recommended by a doctor ? grin

Baba, even if one is on admission and requires close monitoring , the moment doctors' strike happens such a person is on his own. There's little or nothing the nurses can do to help that person. Nurses are not doctors o; either u go to a private hospital or be managing the case at home ni o
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 3:47pm On Jun 03, 2024
izzou:
[color=royalblue]Larride has a point, but his alternatives na wash grin

Block National Assembly? People wey no wan work sef.

Government secretariats that resume by 9am and by 3, dem don dey click on the Start button on their system to shut down? Na dem go happy pass sef.

But he is right about losing the people, if the strike bites harder[/color]
The bold is why the NLC chose that route. They know the government will not be heartless enough to allow the strike linger too long to the extent that we will have opposition media outlet start counting number of dead bodies lost to the strike on a daily basis.

When I was in school I took one borrowed course in personnel management and I remember in one of the topics under the course they listed some of the methods which Labour unions adopt to press home their demands. Strike was like the last option which is adopted when all other methods have failed.

You need to know how tough hearted government and employers generally are in this part of the world for Labour to always adopt strike almost every time

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