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Cipolla’s law of stupidity . If u have time spare 5-6 minutes to watch this .


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGr8bMTSD4s?si=0wspfd4u2iCHJybg

I guess this speaks to our situation in Africa and even Nigeria specifically .

larride:
The Twitter one still fit pass as cruise or troll but that whatsapp own, his lawyer will do alot of explaining.

Make police just see any evidence that he belongs to a violent group lasan, he will be surprised how they will link him to other unsolved crime

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Maybe he thinks going to a Nigerian court is what we see in Suits, and The Lincoln Lawyer.

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Most people think going to police station and getting released is the same thing as going to court and getting released.

Most times sef police is doing u a huge favour by keeping u in their cell.

The moment they take u to court and the judge has reason to have u remanded and the case adjourned, u just start a new journey niyen o. The next court date may not be until 3-4months time the duration of which u will be at the mercy of prison wardens who will take u to prison immediately after adjournment .

When the date of adjournment comes, if ur people don't go to the IPO in charge of ur case to mobilize him with funds to come to court, u will see another problem. Ur people will also have to pay the prison wardens to bring u to court. If the IPO is not present in court, ur case will be adjourned again and u will be taken back to prison .At that point u will realize u are at the mercy of both Nigerian correctional services officer and the IPO in charge of ur case in the police station. The police know this, that is why they always raise the bar high for bribes to allow u walk while still with them

That is how a lot of people have been on "awaiting trial" for years.

Amigoss:
Wow,news to me...which means the pastor grew up as a muslim,always thought Oyedepo was a christain name...

Oyedepo is from a Muslim family na. His sister is an Alhaja sef

Amigoss:
So Oyedepo is related to koko zaria...Blueraydick,you been knew ?

https://twitter.com/Toyosibash1/status/1807708775718981868

Yes, koko Zaria also mentions it in his videos that he's related to Oyedepo.

GloriousGbola:
It is toyin Abraham's legal right as a well connected Nigerian to fk up people who do not stay in their lane. The guy could have kept the insults to Twitter.

It is quite likely he is some sort of cult boy who plays this game with other people and he was drunk on his own delusions of power thinking that the rest of Nigeria is his hood/stomping grounds where he can cough and people will piss their pants.

Reality is here.

The bold is my thought too; because the only thing I can think of that can make him that emboldened.

Its the audacity for me! Going to someone's WhatsApp and telling that person u will kill her and her kid is some high level of crazy.

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
That is left for the court to decide. But first the police should follow due process.

Yeah, the court will definitely decide .

If the guy will be unfortunate , let the police find evidence that suggests he belongs to a particular cult group ; he will smell his anus

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
What the guy said is very wrong.

However, he should be charged to Court. Let the court decide, keeping him in police custody is abuse of court processes.

I agree with u keeping him detained without charging him to court is illegal beyond the days prescribed by the law.

But like izzou pointed out,When he is eventually taken to court he will most likely be remanded in prison . He poses a serious threat to the society since he has threatened her life in white and black .

iamoyindamola:
Stupid boy, he should rot in jail
I read he's one nd2 student

Can u imagine !

I think a lot of the youths nowadays are miseducated .They are so ignorant that they commit crime and will be thinking it is cruise .

How can u be telling someone she and her son will die irrespective of ur differences ? 🤷‍♂️

I support this arrest 💯

Make dem give the guy warring number 7 for a Portugal EMOTIONAL D’Or . His tears inspired his teammates 👏

If God no punish this Sesko, make I know wetin cause am

iamoyindamola:
How?
They believed it’s a murder case instead of suicide

Below is what the Lagos police PRO said when the Punch newspaper contacted them to confirm the news of his death before they went to press .

It is not like Punch just fabricated the story na.

The tone of the family’s statement sounded as if they are angry with the manner in which the news was broken because it affects a lot of things .

For example he may have a life insurance that will not death benefits to his family because the cause of death is suicide .

Well, let’s wait for the police investigation to unravel the mystery behind his death sha

Sportsweb:
https://www.nairaland.com/8141602/ex-konga-ceo-imudia-did-not

This family’s statement sounds like damage control sha .

Domainer1999:
Enough of this back and forth on religion and let's talk about this idiots with overbloated ego called Jarus.

How much does he even have that makes him brag around? Since I've know him, all he does is go around and hype himself of graduating first class from OAU economics as if he alone attended OAU.

Seun is too gentle for my liking!

https://www.nairaland.com/8141425/seun-osewa-mental-disorder-jarus

Na two of them know wetin cause their fight sha

https://www.nairaland.com/8141340/rivers-local-government-elections-hold

itsrm Ur governor has fixed October 5 as date for LGA elections o

izzou:
[color=royalblue]If you say "Overly religious", you are right.

But this "Judgemental" tag is kinda confusing.
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U may not like the word, but it is what it is.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]This has nothing to do with a denomination being judgemental (or whatever the context means)

There are still Deeper Life members that married people from other denominations and their MIL accepted them happily.

This is solely on the woman, and shouldn't be translated as the doctrines of a group[/color]

That's just an example. I know that group very well and I know how judgmental they are . We have so many of them where I grew up and I am very conversant with their doctrines.

I don't want it to seem like I have a personal score to settle with the group, but there's a reason why I say they are the most judgmental sect of Christians in this country. There are several videos of their ex-members on the internet speaking about their experiences in the fold. A simple google search will put u in the right direction.

afrodoc2:
Deeper Life was the most judgemental church that existed when I was growing up. The very definition of close minded. Maybe they have changed now sha.

They are still very close minded till date . All those PR Ellexy is doing is just to save face as a member/ex-member .

I know a woman who was married to a deeper life member . For over 20 years that she was married , her mother-in-law never accepted her fully simply cos she attended another Pentecostal denomination. The husband and his mother attended deeper life while the wife attended another denomination. The mother-in-law stayed in a duplex in the same compound with them , It was only when things got so hot that she finally decided to join them and the mother-in-law accepted her with open arms

Ellexy:
I know MFM don't allow ladies with trousers to enter Prayer City but in Deeper Life you can come as you are. I think they only give scarf to ladies to cover their head.

Deeper Life no really send you till want to join the workforce, then you'll conform to their standards of dressing but as a member, you can come as you are. I know this because I've attended the church.

At the end of the day, it is the content of the messages that keep or send people away. When you go to the hospital as a sick patient, you're expected to receive treatment and become whole, not how to be managing the sickness except the sickness has no cure. That's the difference.

I'll say it again, there's a reason those Yahoo boys or runs girls as you said feel comfortable and at home in places like Cele. Where the carcass is, expect the vultures there.

The biggest lie u have told today is “Deeper life no really send you “ . Deeper life is like the most judgmental church that ever existed in this country . I know ur bias will not allow u agree , but it is what it is .

U need to be more open minded to understand that if u don’t open ur arms to welcome sinners , u do not have a chance of winning their soul.

Unlimited22:
I'm here to tell you that they will beat the Swiss.

Na semi or final you go wait them

He is right, this nonsense won’t beat the Swiss team. The Swiss will load them with enough goals for them to do any late comeback if hey play like this that day

We must learn a lesson !

larride:
Jesus Christ already answered those people who you say do these things in Matthew 7: 1 - 5. I attached the screenshot.

It's one of the reason I dont argue my church is better than yours or my religion is better than yours. Christ message is a message of love and hope. His message is called "The Good News" and it's for both sinners and the redeemed. No one is excluded.

Titus 2:11 says "For the grace of God that bringeth salvation has appeared to all men"

We are saying the same thing bro .

Most Pentecostals in Nigeria don’t follow that particular passage u quoted . They see other sects as lesser Christian’s , they judge people they are supposed to show the way of salvation and they assume they are the “one true church “

This is something I watch happened from my childhood till date

Ellexy:
For every I forgive you, there's go and sin no more. The likes of Deeper Life you mentioned that judge sinners always emphasize the sin no more part not just come as you are yet you refuse to change.
There's a reason the yahoo boys and runs girls you mentioned feel at home in Cele and the types. They don't want to change, they just want a place there lifestyle is accommodated and not preached against. Shey na doctrine of Jesus be that one?

How do u save someone’s soul when u don’t even give him or her access to salvation .

Have u gone for a wedding ceremony in MFM or Deeper life before ? This people will not even allow u enter as a guy with earring /studs in ur ear;they practically bar u from entry. They judge people people with their appearance and make it seem like if u don’t pass the appearance judgement test, then u are unfit to even access the premises .

U will be surprised when u listen to sermon of those white garment churches u love to hate that their preachings is no different from that of ur regular Pentecostal church . They preach against all those ills with the hope that the “Holy Spirit “ germinate the word in ur heart and make u change .

The thing is , Pentecostals have strong bias that makes them stereotype other denominations /sects . They have this belief that they are the ones doing the religion the way Christ would approve of ; they always have something against other denominations . I know these things

Ellexy:

If u have anything to say, now is the time

TrebleChamp:
So apt, basic reasoning doesn't go well mix with religion. Example is Allah (God) allowing Adam and Eve to sin (he already new it would happen before he created us), and then created Hell to punish the rest of humanity for committing sin.
I once told a Christian friend that Judas is innocent and probably balling in heaven, because it was already destined before he was even borne that he will betray Jesus. Dude just stared at me confused and wondering how to respond, he finally said God knows best...

Fact is every religion has its own illogical aspect that just doesn’t make sense but the adherent of such religion just close their eyes to the illogical aspect or try to explain it away in the most illogical way they can come up with .

Recently I saw a funny TikTok video where one guy showed a confused demeanor with an inscription on the video that says “ Devil offend God instead make punish am he send am to earth to tempt us ; and same God will still punish us for falling for the devil’s temptation “ . Make it make sense .

larride:
There's no way in my post where I said Old testament doesn't matter. Jesus Christ came to perfect the law, not to abolish it. The Pharises and Scribes held on to moses law and Jesus called them hypocrites and liars.

When they asked Jesus about the law and which one of moses Law was the greatest commandment, Jesus responded in Mark 12: 30 - 31, "Love the Lord thy God with all thy heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strenght. The second is this; Love your neighbor as yourself.' There is no commandment greater than these."

Check moses 10 commandment and the 2 Jesus gave and you will see that those 10 moses commandment are in the 2 that Jesus said.

As for the adulterous woman, I think you get it wrong. I attached the bible screenshot. Jesus said; I condemn you not, go and sin no more.

How did I get it wrong ? Perhaps u are the one who read me wrong .

I said Jesus did not judge the adulterous woman in accordance with the law of Moses rather he allowed her the second chance of going to sin no more . This is the believe of white garment churches when they allow oloshos and baddies to attend their church without judging them. Deeper life or MFM for example will judge u ; they make sure u don’t even have access to the judge premises with ur lewd dressing and nose ring as a female.

Each denomination/sect just choose whatever aspect of the religion that suits their leader’s bias and they make it into a doctrine . That’s my point .

GloriousGbola:
in the end to be religious you will have to accept some odd things and turn off parts of your brain. it is what it is.

the irony is that outside of the middle east, most muslims are taught to recite arabic, not actually read, understand and comprehend it.

which makes all the wolimat BS.

This is the truth and absolute truth about religion .

larride:
Christianity is based on Jesus not on the bible. The bible is the combination of account of word of God revealed to his disciples, letters written by the apostles of christ and the first 5 books of the new testament were eye witness account of Jesus by his disciples, that's why they contain direct quote from Jesus.

Jesus Christ is the author and finisher of our faith. Not the bible. Any doctrine that doesn't have Jesus as its cornerstone isn't christianity. There's a reason why the bible say judgement will start from the house of God.

Jesus Christ said in Matthew 7: 21 - 23 clearly - "Not everyone who says to me, Lord, Lord will enter the Kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles? Then will I tell them plainly, I never knew you, depart from me, you evildoers.

The above is direct quote from Jesus.

Christian's means Christ-Like, basically those that reflect the way Jesus lived his life on earth. Anyone who calls himself Christian who then go to a church that discards the teaching of Jesus is deceiving he/herself

Please which Adulterous woman did Jesus judge?

Lolz.

U are preaching to the pope here . Jesus himself is a manifestation of the numerous prophecies of the Old Testament . The fact that Jesus was even someone whom Christian’s believed in was because there was the Old Testament which Christian’s believed in before believing in Jesus and the gospel he brought .

The only reason why Jesus has followers is because his followers confirmed most of the prophecies of Isaiah and other prophets around his death ticked all the boxes .

Matthew 5:17-20 reads as follows:
17 “Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill. 18 “For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished. 19 “Whoever then annuls one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever keeps and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 “For I say to you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will not enter the kingdom of heaven.


As for the adulterous woman , I was taking about the woman that was brought by the Pharisees who was caught committing adultery and they intended to stone her . Jesus practically said he didn’t condemn her and told her to go her way and leave her life of sin. This is the same thing celestials and those white garment churches do but Pentecostal Christians abhor them for that .

iamoyindamola:
The major thing is understanding (agboye esin)
If you tell me the prophet said this and you back it with only hadith I won't take you serious because there was Qur'an before hadith

I stayed in MSSN lodge in school these guys drag the shit out of me
I am a lefty they always complain about me using left to eat mind you I only do that when I use spoon
Funny enough there's one of them who's a lefty too, the first thing I ask him if there was spoon during the prophet era
And the certificate you earned in school he used his left hand to gather it to be able to feed himself and family
He's indirectly eating with his left 😂
Them no green my matter and I no allow them rest too
I am sure if this was the north they will deal with me severely

My dad was a Muslim ; someone like u who challenged some of these things that some sects tried to make the norm. Growing up I watched him disputing some of the things some Islamic clerics said on TV. He believed they were interpreting some of those things to suit their own bias .

It’s not just in Islam , it is same in Christianity .Some pastors harp so much on ur appearance , not wearing trousers as female , not styling ur hair as a male , etc ; while others don’t . Each sect will find a scriptural passage that backs his beliefs.

larride:
I dont think this is true in every context except for Catholic and the rest of the protestants.

Most Christian's believe in Jesus, the son of God. I think what most churches disagree on is on doctrine.

Some churches held on to the doctrine of the old testament without considering the new testament while some hold on to the new testament discarding the old testament.

Apostle Paul in his letters to the Thessalonians in 1 Thessalonians 5:21 says we should prove all things and hold on to that which is good. Basically Paul was saying because your pastor says it doesn't mean it is right until you yourself confirm that it is right.

Christianity is meant to be a personal journey between you and your God and not about doctrine.

Where do u think doctrines come from ? Is it not the same holy book ?

It’s just a case of a sent choosing what to hold dear and what not to . Celestials and C & S chose to hold dear Old Testament practices of Making sacrifices , atoning for sins etc ; but other modern day Christian’s see them as being occultic . They decide to adopt the practice of Jesus not judging anybody (Like Jesus didn’t judge the the adulterous woman ) , but other Christian’s see them as condoning adultery/polygamy .

If u notice most oloshos ans Yahoo boys are comfortable going to Cele because they don’t judge them there . They don’t preach against them .

I know there are some Islamic sects who don’t take monetary donations at burials and naming ceremonies while others do with reckless abandon .

Methinks while Christians chose to call it doctrinal differences , Muslims on the other hand just say it’s because of different hadiths they hold dear in each sects. But in the end Christians are as divided as the Muslims .

afrodoc2:
Islam became divided even more quickly than Christianity, probably because temporal power was involved very early with them, unlike early Christians who had no power or riches to squabble over.

I think one thing I noticed about Islam is that the Arabs tried as much as they could to infuse their culture into the religion.

They were successful to an extent that they passed some of the norms in their own traditional way to the religion such that u as a non Arab adopting the religion has to accept some of their traditional way of life that were alien to u prior to adopting the religion. Christianity didn’t have that much grip ; that’s why u see churches like African Church where known Oluwo’s ( traditional cultists ) have seat in the church .While there are traditionalists in Islam too, they are not too open about theirs .