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raumdeuter:
It doesnt have to be a tribalist to raise your own people up

OBJ was President 3 times, Who can we point to that was raised by OBJ? Awolowo will point to Bola Ige, Jakande, Ajasin etc, MKO will point to the likes of Tinubu. while Tinubu will point till his hands falls off

Who will OBJ that ruled longer than any of them point to?

Like I said that your MD uncle that will point you to company portal will also say he doesnt want to be tagged a nepotistic person. He knows what to do, and he does it for others just not for you

What do u mean by RAISE YOUR OWN ?

Theflint1:
That talk of OBJ not wanting any Yoruba man to be greater than him his sketch, especially with an Awolowo who's widely regarded as the greatest Yoruba leader. Also, I'm sure he must have known from the get-go that the South West was next after Buhari given their role in ousting Jonathan, yet that didn't stop him from going against Jonathan. I will buy OBJ having grouse with Tinubu personally, but not the Yoruba race as a whole as is being suggested...reads like a milder version of the OBJ is an Igbo man story.

Yeah OBJ and Tinubu had their issues the same way OBJ and MKO had their issues .

I don’t even see why anybody will say OBJ didn’t want Awolowo to be greater than him when almost every Yoruba person agrees Awolowo is one of the greatest Yoruba leader that ever lived .

I guess OBJ’s sin is the fact that he doesn’t align with tribal politics like dem Buhari would do. For example OBJ would not retire high ranking military officers so that a Yoruba would be in line to be the COAS or any other top military chief .

raumdeuter:
Buhari AbdulSalam IBB were all military men and see how dem carry the case of anything North for head

Buhari will act dumb to everything, let anything happen to one Fulani man anywhere even if in India you will see his action Even if you nack your Fulani babe beyond normal 2 rounds, Buhari go interfere to defend his sister

Have you ever seen OBJ stand for any of his kinsmen before? Awolowo MKO were from his state, what was his relationship with them?

How many people will OBJ point to that he raised up? OBJ go be like your uncle wey be MD for company ask him for help in getting a job and he will direct you to go apply online

Buhari is a tribalist and he doesn’t hide it .

IBB and Abdulsalam have not been actively involved in politics since their respective retirements other than they endorsing whoever goes to them for endorsement during election season.

Except u are asking Obasanjo to become like Buhari who would look away while his kinsman is getting on the wrong side of the law. If we want a better country we would not wish all leaders should be like Buhari .

raumdeuter:
He was a willing tool in their hand. I am sure he had the option of declining the military pick. Military puled the strings of a willing OBJ.

Always him Against Awolowo, Against MKO, Against Tinubu. Who are the prominent SW politician that can say they rose through OBJ?

Obasanjo was never a politician. He's a military man and it showed in how he handled issues even as a civilian president.

raumdeuter:
OBJ will never allow or willingly let any Yoruba person surpass him. Be it Awolowo MKO or Tinubu

But Awolowo is greater than OBJ already na. Awolowo in my books is the greatest Yoruba leader there ever was till date.

He's done more for the Yoruba race than any living or dead Yoruba person had done. It doesn't matter whether he ruled Nigeria or not

raumdeuter:
Obasanjo was jailed in 1995 coup. Before that there have been many pro democracy fights going on from 1993 and OBJ has always been dismissal of them even sometimes favoring military continuation

OBJ was not the choice of Yorubas Falae was. He was more to spite Yorubas given his role in antagonizing any Yoruba politician be it Awolowo Abiola or Tinubu

Its like saying you want to give Ibos presidency to pacify them and pick Joe Igbokwe

Obasanjo was never friends with MKO, that is a given. So everyone knows where Obasanjo's opposition of Abiola's mandate was coming from.

It was the military that decided to put one of their boys who was Yoruba and Obasanjo fitted that profile for them.

U made it seem like Obasanjo became president by his own design and not the military boys pulling the string.

raumdeuter:
Obasanjo no follow anyone fight for democracy, he was actually mocking those pro democracy activists during MKO issue(MKO is not the messiah), but when Democracy reach na him first benefit. They brought him from prison to come chop president

Plus his role in unseating Ladoja for Alao-Akala as Oyo state governor, After which Ladoja ran to Tinubu who helped him win OBJ in court

OBJ wan use military bulldozer style for everyone but Tinubu steadily was using court to counter him (including the FG vs Lagos state on creation of LCDAs, withholding LG funds etc)

At a point anyone having a problem with Obasanjo as president, na Tinubu dem go run to even Atiku as sitting Vice president when OBJ wanted to impeach hm and denied him PDP ticket, Tinubu gave him AC ticket

How can Obasanjo fight for democracy when he himself was in prison while the fight for democracy was ongoing ?

U know Obasanjo being elected president in 1999 is just to pacify Yoruba's for the death of MKO na.

GloriousGbola:
Ltsrm and wike is like monerozi5590 and Buhari. A confam love story

Love made in heaven

raumdeuter:
Latest twist

itsrm is Wike PA and member of the inner Portharcourt caucus

I like him sha, he is like me. he stand behind his man like I stand behind Asiwaju anyday

Na die hard fan wey no dey shake. I'm beginning to suspect he's heading one of the Wike support group

Realmrsean:
atiku will down wike anytime anyday if the 2 appears on any party ballot.. wike is just like the numerous warlords wey naija delta get..the guy no sabi politics ata ll

itsrm knows this, but his love for wike no go allow am gree for anybody

Itsrm:


We all know what happened. Atiku was shitting his pants. They had to summon an emergency meeting to mount pressure on Tambuwal.

That’s what someone with 30 years experience contesting presidential election does na. Na why Atiku be Wike’s master na.

Wike was naive enough to not see his close friend Tambuwal cutting deal with Atiku

Tinubu don summon Tunji-Ojo to villa o

https://www.nairaland.com/7963980/tinubu-summons-interior-minister-tunji-ojo

izzou:
[color=royalblue]A lot of sure odds were wasted during that period.

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Aswear. That time all of us just dey drop different permutations upandan. Some people for no get house, land or motor by now if some bets were consummated that time

Itsrm:
Atiku will not win the primaries. Wike will. Write down today's date

Itsrm:
You have not been following. Wike is not your average politician. He had the erstwhile PDP chairman removed, they (Governors) were the ones that put the current one.

And like I responded elsewhere, he has most PDP governors and even the chairman of the party in his pocket. You can also note down today's date.

Itsrm:
My thoughts


Those of us who have been following events closely already know Wike will win the election.

SS delegates is under lockdown. Makinde and Fayose are his very strong allies which means SW delegates votes is also under lockdown.

He also has ENUGU, ABIA delegates under his control. IMO and Ebonyi will likely swing in his favour same as Benue and Plateau state. It will not matter what happens in the NE/NW.

Itsrm:
There's one very small thing you keep forgetting

Wike can match Atiku naira for naira and dollar for dollar. We are talking about a two time governor of Rivers State here.

Do you have any idea the wealth this man has at his disposal?

The difference between the previous years Atiku contested and now is that he has met his match.

Once you allow that fact to sink in, you'll come to terms with what the rest of us have seen

Itsrm:
You will swallow that L. I remember telling you from day one when we had that discussion. Wike is not your average politician. He's a master strategist. All these while Atike was in Dubai, Wike was already scheming to be president.

The votes from delegates in the North will not matter as I have shown. The general election is another thing entirely

Itsrm:
If you are watching this primaries and you still think Atiku will win then you are deceiving yourself .

Omo see the love

Omo! U need to give it up for itsrm, he's been unwavering in his loyalty to and believe in the Wike mandate

Na why I talk say his analysis of this current situation may be more of emotions than being realistic, e get why.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]I agree with BlueRayDick that Itsrm is just emotional about it.

2 years is a whole lot of time to change the narratives of any state politics.

Imo and Ebonyi are poor examples, because the governors then (Rochas and Umahi) defected, having a lot of time to change all unchangeables.

If Tinubu had shown his cards in 2017, Ambode won't have lost, or at least, easily. Tinubu waited till it was late; a kind of wisdom Wike does not have

I can't say if Fubara will be relevant then, but saying only death will make Wike irrelevant is funny.

2 years? Lol

Maybe Obi fit dey APC then sef. [/color]

If Fubara remains governor till the end of this 4 years, I will wager he will win the PDP primary and most likely a re-election.

itsrm gets emotional with his support for Wike jare. That was how he insisted Wike would win PDP presidential primary election against Atiku even till the primary day

If I know I for don bet with am chop one of his SUV's make I dey use guide now

Itsrm:
This is funny.

Fubara himself was still taunting Wike after the agreement was signed that what they wanted was the red pen and they didn't get it. He was even publicly gyrating to the dey your dey song

But his emergency supporters who were on all radio and TV stations suddenly decided not to speak after the agreement when the man himself has not stopped talking.

Meanwhile, loyalists of Wike have been talking. A local government chairman even called Fubara a mumu man. This is after the agreement you want us to believe has stopped the others from talking.

If that agreement had gone the way they wanted, they would have been every where gloating and celebrating the "death" of Wike.

Okay, So what u are saying is that u expected Fubara's supporters to be going from one radio station to the other issuing threats to Wike, calling him derogatory words and daring him to do his worse? To what end?

The Fubara u are saying is taunting Wike is doing so because he knows he got the longer end of the stick as far as the cause of the brouhaha was concerned. He was about to be impeached, he made a move that made him escape the impeachment and for now he has the word of the GCFR that he won't be impeached as far as he sticks to his end of the agreement.

So what do u want his supporters to do? They should go on the offensive? Over what exactly ?

It seems ur bias for Wike is not making u see things for what they are. Obviously Wike will win the war if he plays the long game and wait things out, but till then Fubara still has the red biro in his front pocket.

Itsrm:
Why did the agreement not stop the protest in front of the government house?

Why did it not stop the Rivers State Elders from dragging Tinubu to court?

Why did it not stop PDP from dragging the lawmakers who left PDP to court.

Those who stopped talking did not stop talking because of any agreement. They quickly realised they are fighting a battle that has been lost.

That is ur opinion and not necessarily true .

Any other person can claim all of those things u listed up there were done by Fubara and his loyalists just to show they still have leverage in spite of the agreement signed . More like they showing they are still in the game and not down & out.

Freelers has already shown that Tinubu was ready to weild the big stick if Fubara had not signed and abide by the dictates of the agreement . U don’t expect his supporters to be the first person to break the truce na

Realmrsean:
remove federal, wike will loose relevance in less than a year..

That's why wike is dancing jagaban mandate upandan because he has to keep súckin tinubus balls to remain relevant..

Anyday wey em go fall out with tinubu, na then he go kiss his political career goodbye 👋🫂 because fubara go box am man to man for state ..

U can't remove federal, na federal gan gan be Wike's base for now. That's why Fubara too will mount his guard and be on the watchout . For now , both of them carry "anybody win" for their ticket

Itsrm:
No matter how long it takes, no one will risk his political career for Fubara. Have you not noticed that all the noisemakers who originally came out to support him have all gone into hiding the moment he signed that agreement in Abuja.

Only clowns like Chijioke Ihunwo are still talking.

Wike is believed to have the ears and eyes of the president and his chief of staff. INEC and the Judiciary are on the palm of their hands. Who is going to bet against them and support a man who doesn't even have control of his state HOA.

What were u expecting them to do instead? The moment he signed the agreement it means they've reached a truce na.

Why are u getting emotional with this thing ? They can't keep making threats knowing that a ceasefire has been reached by both warring sides na.

Realmrsean:
Person try him power to remove gorvernor.. he no succed

Instead of una to give fubara his flowers for holding his ground, una still dey rate wicked wike

U have a point sha, Fubara sef na gangster....That burning down of the House of Assembly card he played showed he should not be underrated sha. It takes some really big balls to pull that kind gangster shiii off.

iamoyindamola:
Or she bent the knee a lot of times

Bending the knee is not enough to catapult u from a MBBS degree and PGD Public Health to Commisioner & Minister few years after.

patrickmuf:
No, she did not practice that is why a lot of Medical doctors in Cross River did not rate her when she was the State Commissioner for health...

She must be from an influential family to have achieved what she's achieved from politics at that young age.

Itsrm:
Na so the thing be na

But this guy no get sense. If results were written for Tinubu, does it not mean they did the same to bring the governor he's supporting?

That's what he's saying; that they are not afraid to write another one for Fubara come 2027 (even though we all know that's almost impossible if Wike still dey alive)

Itsrm this man just confirmed what u’ve been saying all this while that dem dey write election result for Rivers state . He claims Labour Party won but na dem write the result cos Labour Party no get ginger

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C13yygXtW-G/?igsh=eml3N3QyN2h5MjJk

Ibime una people really get mind o

CrystalTiger:
I always thought his Dr was a P.hD something..

No o…. Na medical doctor

CrystalTiger:
😀😀😀😀

Wetin be this craze 😂😂

Person wey study medicine, do housemanship finish and turn director for him papa bank. Shey if that person chook u injection for malaria u no go get polio?

izzou:
[color=royalblue]This Funke's film...

Is the grossing 1 billion naira, or 1 billion dollars?[/color]

Wetin be Nigerians total disposable income wey dem go use 1 billion dollars watch nollywood movie?

GloriousGbola:
i no wan talk am before - was my first thought when i saw her before before picture

she has put on some weight [which accounts for some of the variance] but she definetely seems to be acquainted with the underside of the knife

Baba just take a look at these pishures below, u can see what make-up and photo editing can mask.

Na why some guys dey bail on their date when they see "What I ordered vs What I got"

I can't vouch for Betta whether she bleaches her skin or not cos I really do not know her, but the fact that there's lapse of time between when her old pictures and recent pictures were taken ; she can always claim it was make-up and advancement in photo technology that is responsible for the contrast

U wan know how to bill ur uncle wey dey work there ?

Kabiru commot ur eye for another person money this new year!

afrodoc2:
Is she editing her Live TV appearances as well?

I go like see her Live Video to judge for myself, cos even ordinary snap chat filter dey make person light for video o

afrodoc2:
What about her nose?
Compare the oldest pictures with the most recent pictures.

All I can say is that she she is obviously using the best possible services for her appearance upgrade, so the misuse of public funds makes more sense now.

That her recent pishure na over editing kill am. Anyways most people bleaching nowadays call it "organic"

liveLongNprospa:
Lmao.
That's mostly make up and camera flash in the first picture. Look at the second lady.

The one with Tinubu is both make up and aggressive edit by the photographer. The photographer was more focused on Tinubu that he didn't bother to tone her own skin colour down, that's why it's looking almost orange like😁. Adobe lightroom will easily correct it😅

As in....women wey dey edit pishure dey add yansh join the one God give them.

U go come see yansh bend with wall