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izzou:
[color=royalblue]In the North, you cannot even toast their women sef. They will not even answer you.

If no be their tribe, they will not even look at you.

Less tribalistic my foot

I agree they are hospitable. But they will put their tribe and religion first, before any other person[/color]

The bold is very true. Anybody saying otherwise is just being dishonest.

monerozi5590:
Izzou asked in what way and I answer him by sighing jobs. I have already answer you. You can believe or not that's fine.

I agreed with u that Hausa's are accommodating because I have stayed in the north before and I experienced their hospitality. But that's where it stops! You see that Less Tribalistic u are talking about; na zobo! It's not even about what we believe or not, It's about what we see and experience.

Itsrm:
I was just laughing when I saw it. Come to DPR in PH, na them full am. I hear its the same with CBN but I've not confirmed. You will never hear that these govt. agencies with juicy salaries are recruiting yet na Northerners dey full am. How are they getting the jobs?

CBN, NIMASA, DPR, NNPC,etc. These are government agencies that pay very well and have good condition of service, yet na Northers full there. The last time somone blew whistle about illegal recruitment in CBN we all saw the number of Northerners that populate the recruitment list.

One time like that I was at NDIC in Marina here in Lagos, omo U will think Hausa is the Lingua Franca in Nigeria with so many men and women in Kaftan and Hijab respectively who are staff coversing in Hausa at the Lobby.

monerozi5590:
Is not lie. I have experienced it so many times.

The Hausas will give you job over their own.

Just look at the Northern States. They are so many outsiders working in their state governments job. Kaduna , Borno and the rest. Can you say the same for other states?

Hope you saw LESS tribalistic on my initial post. Emphasis on LESS

They are not less tribalistic in any way. A typical Hausa man will not even pray behind a Yoruba Imam leading Solat; at least u won't say u don't know there are Yoruba Mosques and Hausa mosques due to that reason.

As regards giving outsiders work, which work are we referring to here ? Are u saying Hausa's who are at the top of ministries and government parastatals are not recruiting massively their kit and kin into the system ? It's only Lagos state that can really be described as giving jobs to outsiders like you are alluding to Hausa states.

monerozi5590:
They will accommodate you even in their space. They don't mind giving you job even if you are competing for the same position with their own.

The bold is a lie from the pit of hell. Your first sentence is correct that Hausa's are quite accommodating but saying they will give u job ahead of their own people is a lie that can never stand any form of scrutiny.

Why do u think Hausas populate Police, Army, Customs, Immigration and even Federal civil service/major government parastatals like EFCC, NDLEA etc? In fact, how many non Hausa/Fulani has chaired EFCC till date? Hausa's may be accommodating but don't conflate it with not being nepotistic. Even small NYSC wey we do, the way an official relates with u in camp if you speak Hausa is quite different with how they treat you that is just speaking "Phonetic English"

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raumdeuter:
Someone just said certain Hadiths support it. I don't know if it's stated in the Koran

But do you think an entire Middle East region will pass a fatwa and we have over 2bn people seeking to kill Salman Rushdie for Blasphemy without any part of the Koran or Hadith supporting it ?

So is the Hadith and Quran more like Old Testament and New Testament for Christian’s ?

itsrm Miracle no dey tire ur guy Wike

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raumdeuter:
In every religion there are people who are conservative about the teachings of the religion and some who are liberal about it

E.g in Christianity, Some people believe women should never open their hair, never wear trousers and never hold leadership position, never use contraceptives, never abort with justification from the bible and within the same Christianity there are some who call it Bullsheet

Same with drinking alcohol, even how you treat people who leave the religion

Maybe some of those Moslems who challenged him and do not believe it are the modernized version of the religion like how Pastor Coza, Christ embassy will look to Deeper life and MFM members

Open a topic on some of the issues I raised above and you will get different opinion depending on the Church congregation. Which of them is wrong

I don’t think we are talking about the same thing here at all.

A muslim says he believes in death being the punishment for blasphemy ; his fellow Muslims ask him to provide the authority which he based his belief on. That’s what I’m talking about .

I mean if for example a Christian says his denomination forbids alcohol ; some denomination like Catholic can ask him to provide a bible verse that forbids alcohol . You and I know that both parties can come up with verses to back their stand inside the same bible .

What I’m asking is this ; is there any Quaran verse that specifies the punishment of blasphemy as death while another says something different about the same subject matter (like in the Bible on some issues ) ?

Let’s try and stay on the topic

raumdeuter:
I have not read the Koran. But I have heard from many people who are that the punishment for Blasphemy in Islamic societies is death. That is why in majorly Islamic countries you will find the same punishment for Blasphemy is death

Whether you personally believe it or not is a different matter

I also have not read the Quran , In fact growing up I also thought it was cast in stone that the punishment for blasphemy is death in Islam.

But what do we make of his fellow Muslims who challenged him to come up with a verse in the Quaran that states expressedly that a blasphemous person should be killed ?

nihilistjnr:
Can you point out where Amoto94 justified Deborah's killing with news of a kidnapping?

So I had to go back to the chelsea thread again where the Deborah killing was discussed and here is what I found :

Amoto says he does not support the way Deborah was killed by an irate mob, but he believes in punishment of blasphemy (which is DEATH anyways )

However, some Muslims called him out that the Quran does not ask anybody to be killed for blasphemy . Popizaino even mentioned how the holy prophet’s uncle didn’t accept him as a prophet of Allah ( Which in itself amounts to blasphemy) , yet there was no record of him being killed for that .

I thought Amoto was going to do an expose on how Blasphemy became a capital offence that attracts capital punishment after the Prophet’s demise but he didn’t engage Popizaino and iamoyindamola further on the topic. I mean some of us want to learn how some of these things came to be incorporated into the law.

GloriousGbola:
But that applies all round na.

Same way those cursing Tinubu could be chasing lasg contract tomorrow.

Yes it applies all rounder but it will affect a new entrant into the market more than someone that already has something doing . Na why I decide to direct the advise towards him.

Amoto94:
Na so person lose job because him criticise PDP one certain time. Yours sincerely has also fallen a victim by criticising PDP while the sponsor of the local team I was coaching back then is PDP stalwart, the next thing was defunding and allegations of financial misappropriation without a shred of evidence by his handlers.

That's Nigeria for u.

That's why I don't criticize some of my friends who work for these politicians and stan them anywhere. When we are in private they usually express their grievances which they dare not express in the open else they lose income.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]You be serious case, walahi

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Na true na. Make him case no be like Nwanza the bird in "Things Fall Apart" who decided to challenge his chi to a wrestling match.

reccy:
This is funny! I wonder where your hates for BAT steem from!

I wonder what metric(s) can you ever rate Obi higher to Bat. The ball was thrown with cash to bring forth the achievements of your candidate to compare with BAT, what do we have?

We all want the best for our country and for things to change but we cannot achieve this by employing a "dunce" who, instead of create a better environment for business to drive, create jobs and provide basic amenities, saved the money all in the name of "debt free" and accountability. It is a case of father depriving his children the necessities and instead saves the money while the children wallop in poverty and you call that a father?

This time around, we are voting base on track records! If it pains you, you can place your testicles on scorpion! Kokanye!!!

I want to advise you to be cautious with your words on an open forum like this especially against PEP's(Politically Exposed Persons). The reason why I'm saying this is because you are a young man who dreams to build a promising career following the advises you got from here.

I mean one day you could be in the final stage of an interview and u will be asked to meet the chairman who may turn out to be Peter Obi or any of these politicians you dislike and use foul language against online(Peter Obi used to be the chairman of Fidelity Bank. Don't let anybody fool you that it's not possible for an interviewee to meet chairman at the final stage of interview; someone like Aig-Imokuode makes it a ritual to always assess any candidate that will be employed in any company he chairs). Like someone once said here, nobody is really anonymous like that. You can express your dislike for a candidate, but calling someone like Peter Obi "dunce" when u are yet to break through into any industry may do you more harm than good in the nearest possible future. You would not expect a dunce chairman to employ you in the company he owns

hensben:
Hazard is better than every Arsenal player, both past and present.

LEE MAO!

The same Hidden Hazard of blessed memory? Na una wey no too get legend dey tag that shakushaku merchant as legend for west London.

We get 4 players in the premier league hall of fame as it stands ….. I guess the fact that una get only Lampard up there makes it difficult for u to know say who pass u don pass u.

Hazard kor, peril ni.

PDPGuy:

It’s true bro.

I know a popular naija pastor who took loan in a Nigerian bank solely for the purpose of roofing his permanent site that was under construction.

His loan offer letter showed his annual turnover as 800m. Wetin burst my head pass is the fact that the part where they ask for source of repayment , baba just put offerings , tithes, pledges and special donations .

raumdeuter:
My Baptist church is also similar, always kept to time yet if you see how much dem dey make every Sunday
And they have missions to Asia Africa South America. Mission budget sef no dey this one. You will see couples will go to Pakistan Chad or Peru for evangelism living in the village

Let me see one of the church pamphlets before Covid

Omo ! 82k dollars as offering for one week

If naija pastor see this thing dem go port and renounce their naija citizenship o

izzou:
[color=royalblue]I did, tearfully

The Lord was merciful unto me again[/color]

Tomorrow we go again !

izzou:
[color=royalblue]I did not even check.

Maybe it was because I just came back from evening mass, after confessing my sins.[/color]

Did u confess the coitus wey Gold circle nearly cast on top too ?

Itsrm:
Will you blame him? The last time he jumped bail what happened to the person who stood as guarantor for him? Was there any penalty whatsoever?

If the appropriate sanctions/forfeitures have been enforced on the previous guarantor, this one will think twice before running his mouth.

In Nigeria na only poor man wey do surety dey end up behind bars. A big man will assemble his lawyers , set up his loyalists to protest his imminent arrest and give media money to turn the issue to political matter .

izzou:
[color=royalblue]For every bottle water taken, 2 satchets of pure water have been drunk.

You can use a calculator to deduct the difference. It is what it is.

If you like, drink Hero in Igbogbo, Ikorodu. It doesn't change the fact that their targeted market is the SE Nigeria. Of all beers in Lagos, Hero is amongst the few doing any ad.
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U get energy gan o. Why u dey give people like that attention ?
Just a click on his profile and his post history shows the account is a troll account dedicated to throwing insults . Why waste time replying people like that ?

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Rather than sit down and see how these guys are using our heads, we will be arguing and defending their actions or inactions.

Just yesterday, Obi was/is the sponsor of IPOB here.

Today, a sitting APC senator and Senate president hopeful is about to stand as a guarantor for the leader of a proscribed terrorist group.

Dem just dey use us play.[/color]

Wahala …. Wahala….. wahalaeux

Donjazet2:
Honestly reading that piece made me realize how the saying that power corrupts holds true.

E shock u say na the same Elrufai dey chaprone Tinubu now ?

Well , I’m actually interested in reading how Elrufai thinks back then and how he thinks now that he’s a full time politician loyal to his party ,pocket and personal interest .

I will surely add the book to my collection of books

DissTroy:
El Rufai on how he stopped Bola Tinubu from ripping off the federal government:


"One of my memorable early experiences in BPE was a political baptism of fire – an encounter that opportunity to cash in on that misfortune. They did something similar in India in the 1990s and it went really wrong but they learnt some lessons and came to Nigeria with a more refined approach. What

Enron proposed was to supply second-hand, barge-based generators (moveable and easy to relocate in case of payment defaults) using diesel initially, to be supplied by Wale Tinubu’s Ocean & Oil Ltd. (now Oando) [b] until gas pipelines are extended from Egbin to the barges’ location, to provide initially 90MW and expandable to 540MW of electricity exclusively for Lagos State.


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The Lagos State governor, Bola Tinubu, his finance commissioner Wale Edun, budget commissioner Yemi Cardoso, Gbenga Oyebode of Aluko & Oyebode, Wale Tinubu and Tunde Folawiyo, all of them friends or acquaintances of mine, were involved in the transaction at various levels and capacities.[/color] There were only three hurdles that needed to be crossed. First was the legal reality of the time: that only federally-owned National Electricity Power Authority (NEPA) could buy, transmit and distribute power so the cooperation of the Federal Government (FGN) was needed.


Second was that NEPA was notorious for not paying its bills (even to government-owned companies like the Nigerian Gas Company which supplies it with feedstock), so some payment security arrangements needed to be put in place in anticipation of NEPA’s default, and finally Enron would require a sovereign guarantee in the event that NEPA fails to pay and the security arrangement fails to crystallise or is exhausted by multiple defaults. Enron and Bola Tinubu found a way by getting Chief Bola Ige, a fellow opposition AD party leader working in a PDP administration, to get Obasanjo to sign off on the transaction without any cabinet review or rigorous inter-agency discussions. Bola Ige also obtained the president’s consent to sign a sovereign guarantee on behalf of the Federal Government of Nigeria something only the Minister of Finance was legally authorized to do.

There were no loud protest from NEPA management who could foresee the dangers of potential corporate insolvency because they all believe resistance was fruitless since Minister Bola Ige had the ears of President Obasanjo. Everything was signed, sealed and delivered and we all read about it in the newspapers. I was concerned that this could negatively impact the future privatization of NEPA and requested the VP to obtain copies of the agreements signed for our review. This was barely two weeks after I resumed, and then early in December 1999, we received the ‘power purchase agreement’ (PPA) of over 100 pages including annexes, annexures and other attachments.


We could not make any sense out of it. We approached Norton Rose of the UK, and two local law firms, A B Mahmoud & Co. based in Kano and George Ikoli & Okagbue of Lagos to undertake a review of the power purchase agreement. Norton Rose needed several weeks, and instinctively I knew we had to figure this out before it got too late, and several weeks night be too late. The local law firms submitted the outcome of their reviews within a short period, but what we got were not very helpful in isolating the potential impact of the PPA on our power sector reform programme.

The agreement was highly technical with enough equations and integrals to scare all but the most mathematically proficient of lawyers. At this point, I approached the World Bank country office for assistance. Trevor Byer, the country director who fortuitously had been involved in power sector reforms elsewhere before his posting to Nigeria, was very very helpful, proactive and immediately responsive. Within a couple of weeks, we received a summary of the agreement, its impact on privatization, what the equations and annexes meant in terms of tariffs, security arrangements, dollar payments and contingent liabilities. I immediately briefed the Vice President who was alarmed at the findings, and he instructed me to draft a memo for onward transmission to President Obasanjo.


Within five weeks of taking over the headship of BPE, I drafted the first of many memos which would be forwarded to the drawing attention to surreptitious steps being taken by line ministries to frustrate sector reforms and privatization.
[color=#2135D2] The Lagos State-Enron case was particularly dangerous as it would have bankrupted NEPA almost overnight! The president immediately put the transaction on hold and commended the vice president for briefing him on the implications of the deal. [/color]



The VP set up a ministerial committee chaired by Minister of State Danjuma Goje, with BPE, the Federal Ministry of Finance,and Lagos State Government represented as members,to review the agreement. Enron immediately hired GoodWorks International, the global advisory firm co-founded by former US Ambassador to the UN, Andrew Young, to influence the outcome of the review, while Bola Ige and some sections of the South-West media got busy attacking me, the vice president and the BPE for depriving Lagos and Yoruba people of steady electricity’.

We declined to respond, focusing on fixing what we saw as a potential stumbling block to reforming and privatizing our electricity supply industry.


I am glad we truncated the original deal, but even the better and arrangement which reduced tariffs from 8.5 cents per kilowatt – hour to just 1 cent a kilowatt – hour ended up placing huge financial burdens on NEPA years into the future – and the undertaking we extracted from Lagos State to share part of the burden was subsequently challenged court, and remained in dispute until we left office.

My Enron experience was an education of sort. I learnt many new lessons that dispelled my naivety. Well-informed and trusted friends put pressure on me to look the other way because they were advisers or consultants to Enron, or were potential; beneficiaries in the transaction. My explanations and passionate representations that the transaction was inimical to national interest, negatively impacts the long-term viability of NEPA and threatened the reforms of the electricity industry were neither nor relevant to their position.


I saw starkly how government officials were willing to prevent the interest of the country to impress foreigners, or obtain preferences for those they thought were their kinsmen.
It was an early sobering experience and an appreciation of the reigning dictum of every one for himself, and no one for the country."


~ Source: The Accidental Public Servant (Page 81 – 84) by Nasir El Rufai

I will try and check for the hard copy of this book in any of the popular bookshops . I want to read Elrufai’s mind before he became a career politician .

Itsrm:
BlueRayDick watch your man interview. You go laugh tire


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWQ_ikPkWGE

Portable my man . Wotowoto dey bring money !

I watched the interview on TikTok about a week ago. Portable weyrey say all those people wey help am no help am, he say na rip dem rip am

There was a part he mentioned that anytime he wants to apply for visa they will just find people join body add am and dem go deny am visa . The guy mouth no get filter at all

nihilistjnr:
This is not the question I asked you sir.

My question was, can you please explain why Obi felt the need to say it is Igbo's turn and thus his turn?

There is no politician even emilokan himself that doesn't campaign on competence and past record, so pointing out that Obi said vote for competence is irrelevant.

What I'm interested in is WHY Obi had to say it his turn as an Igbo man.

I'm waiting for your response.

U are asking me to analyze a phrase out of a complete sentence . The same sentence u have refused to analyze in full ?

Not today bro.

Happy Amala-turning Tuesday to u.

nihilistjnr:
If Obi did not believe it was the Igbo's turn and his turn, he wouldn't say it.

There is literally no reason to preface a request to vote for his competence with a reminder that it's the Igbo's turn.

If you can think of a reason for that statement, let us know.

U are the one who chose to interpret a clear statement to suit Ur narrative. U are the one who is quoting half of a complete statement.

Initially I thought disstroy was out to defend Obi against all odds. Then I opened the FP topic and I see that u are the one who chose to use half sentence for the basis of agenda. Haba!

This post is clear as daylight. Obi did not speak in Bala blue or conjure any "dead fish is not sweet in the soup " parable. He was very explicit and spoke in the English we all learnt in school as our lingua franca.

Obi : "If the President is to be given by whose
turn it is, as an Igbo it's my turn but I am in
the race as a Nigerian wishing to be hired
based on my track record, competence and
capacity."

It's an election season and people will interpret posts like this to suit their own narrative. As far as I'm concerned Obi is asking people to vote him not because it's Igbo's turn but because of.his track record, competence and capacity. I would expect anybody that want to tackle him based on this interview to tackle his track records, competence and capacity.... Not to be dragging him into Emilokan debate.

JAKANDE! The man who built Lagos within 4 years without any propaganda, paparazzi or fugazi.

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Tataffo:
You be gbef

Real gbef sef!