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Christianity Etc › Re: God Did Not Ask Us To Give Firstfruits [COUNTER THREAD] by BluntBoy(op): 10:46pm On Jan 08, 2019

Ken4Christ:
No, I don't agree. There are many other instructions in other parts of the New Testament not listed there. So, the list is not exhaustive.

Besides, our Lord Jesus said that man should not live by bread alone but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.

God spoke through the Prophets that we should pay our firstfruits. So it stands.

You didn't even read the OP at all.

I gave a background to what caused the council to hold.

The issue was whether the Gentile Christians should keep the Jewish Laws

This includes laws such as tithes and first fruits.

The requirements are specific. The aspects of the Laws to keep are:

Abstinence from idol worshipping.

Not consuming blood or flesh of strangled animals.

Abstinence from sexual immorality.

Christianity Etc › Re: God Did Not Ask Us To Give Firstfruits [COUNTER THREAD] by BluntBoy(op): 10:42pm On Jan 08, 2019

Ken4Christ:
It is not an assumption. Firstfruits offering principles started even before the Law was given.

Abel offered the firstlings of his flock to God. And God respected his offering. Cain on the other hand didn't offer his firstfruits and God rejected his offering.

The first belongs to God. It's an eternal principle. Please, have spiritual sense.

On the contrary, it is you who should have spiritual sense.

And who told you the first which belongs to God is fruits or money?

Someone who claims to have spiritual sense thinks only of money.

Sports › Re: CAF Awards 2018 In Dakar, Senegal (Live Updates) by BluntBoy(m): 8:47pm On Jan 08, 2019

Okocha would always feel bad every time this award holds.

Such a talented footballer and yet he is missing on the list.

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Sports › Re: CAF Awards 2018 In Dakar, Senegal (Live Updates) by BluntBoy(m): 8:44pm On Jan 08, 2019

Ubdavis:
I can't even tell when next a player from Nigerian will make wave to this effect .

2040.

My son will win it. And then, he would go on to win the big one.

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Sports › Re: Top 5 Commentators In Football by BluntBoy(m): 4:49pm On Jan 08, 2019

sukerefakere:
not only femi and the gang, it's kuti and the fourty thieves

Christianity Etc › Re: God Did Not Ask Us To Give Firstfruits [COUNTER THREAD] by BluntBoy(op): 2:51pm On Jan 08, 2019

Ken4Christ:
Did it also read , we should stop paying firstfruits and tithes? These are principles that only a believer that has the Spirit of God will not struggle to understand and practice. You are even required to do more in the New Testament. Jesus wants you to sell off all you have and give to the poor. If Jesus demanded this for the poor, do you think he will desire less concerning money given to support the spread of the gospel for which he died?

Moreover, it is what it reads that matters and not what it doesn't read.

Do not add to the Word.

That passage is not silent about requirements for Gentile Christians. It provided requirements and the Holy Spirit would not burden us BEYOND the requirements in that verse.

There is no tithe or first fruits there.

The fact that they were no mentioned speaks a lot about those aspects of the Law.

Christianity Etc › Re: God Did Not Ask Us To Give Firstfruits [COUNTER THREAD] by BluntBoy(op): 2:46pm On Jan 08, 2019

alBHAGDADI:
Exactly.

These people also love to hammer on New Testament free will giving. Ask them if they've given like the early Christians who sold their land and houses and gave to the church, they'll go mute.

Their aim is to strip the church of access to funds to propagate the gospel. They are antichrists. I just put for the ignoramuses who have fallen for this.

You people are merely a con to separate fools from their money.

So, in spite of offerings and donations every Sunday and weekday, in spite of profits got from different businesses such as high brow primary, secondary and tertiary institutions, the church can't do without firstfruits and tithes?

Might I ask why the church runs all these businesses?

It is obviously for profit. So how is the Church not able to manage its expenses?

Christianity Etc › Re: God Did Not Ask Us To Give Firstfruits [COUNTER THREAD] by BluntBoy(op): 2:38pm On Jan 08, 2019

Ken4Christ:
Did it also read, we should stop paying firstfruits and tithes? These are principles that only a believer that has the Spirit of God will not struggle to understand and practice. You are even required to do more in the New Testament. Jesus wants you to sell off all you have and give to the poor. If Jesus demanded this for the poor, do you think he will desire less concerning money given to support the spread of the gospel for which he died?

If it didn't, then your beliefs are based on assumption.

You assume that since something was not listed as a requirement, then it comes down to a matter of opinion.

If this is so, then why did you say firstfruits for nonJewish Christians is scriptural?

Christianity Etc › Re: God Did Not Ask Us To Give Firstfruits [COUNTER THREAD] by BluntBoy(op): 12:18pm On Jan 06, 2019

alBHAGDADI, you recently commented on your own thread.

How come you are avoiding this one? Surely, you got a mention from me.

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Christianity Etc › Re: God Did Not Ask Us To Give Firstfruits [COUNTER THREAD] by BluntBoy(op): 12:16pm On Jan 06, 2019

along3dem:
Well said but, with the above verse, its directed to the Gentiles and not us. Since u believe the jew christians are different from that of the gentiles. Shouldn't believe the gentile Christians is different from Nigeria Christian. My dear, this world is a complicated world. Watin big pass u, big pass u

Bro, I have already explained what "gentile" means. It means "outsider" or "non-Jewish".

A Nigerian Christian is a Gentile Christian.

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Christianity Etc › God Did Not Ask Us To Give Firstfruits [COUNTER THREAD] by BluntBoy(op): 9:41am On Jan 06, 2019

Yes, God did not ask us to give firstfruits.

"Us" here means non-Jewish Christians. If we (ken4christ, alBHAGDADI and I, for example) had lived in the time when the church was in its infant stage, we would have been called Gentile Christians. the word gentile means outsider or a non-Jew. So, a Gentile Christian is a non-Jewish Christian.

The issue of whether Gentile Christians should keep the Jewish Laws did not start today. It arose even in the Early Church and reached such a destructive point that Paul and Barnabas had to be sent from Antioch to the Jerusalem church to confer with the other elders on the issue of whether Gentile Christians should keep the Jewish Laws (otherwise known as the Laws of Moses) and be circumcised.

The council of elders reached an agreement through the help of the Holy Spirit. Here is the agreement:

"It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us not to burden you with anything beyond the following requirements: (Acts 15:28)

Please, note the words beyond the following requirements

This means that the Holy Spirit would not burden us (Gentile Christians or non-Jewish Christians) beyond some certain requirements.

"It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us not to burden you with anything beyond the following requirements:

you are to abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality. You will do well to avoid these things. Farewell." (Acts 15-28-29)

Let us highlight these two verses directed at us, Gentile or non-Jewish Christians.

The Holy Spirit does not want to burden us with anything beyond the following requirements:

1. We should not consume food sacrificed to idols

2. We should not consume the blood or flesh of strangled animals

3. We should abstain from sexual immorality.

ken4christ and alBHAGDADI, I didn't see firstfruits on the requirements. How come?

This thread is also directed at the tithers, especially those who follow the false teachings of Adeboye, Oyedepo and their ilks on tithes.

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Politics › Re: Where Is Atiku Abubakar? by BluntBoy(m): 2:51pm On Jan 05, 2019

Chizuru01:
Misplacing Priority is the problem of nigerian Youths.

We ought to be asking "Where is Mr President ?" Especially now that people are being massacred on a daily basis

http://thestreetjournal.org/2019/01/zamfara-killings-by-bandits-continue-as-18-killed/

Don't they have a governor in Zamfara?

Yari is trying his best over there.

If the president is expected to do everything, then why do states have governors?

Politics › Re: Dino Melaye Fainted On The Floor After Eight-Day Siege by BluntBoy(m): 2:42pm On Jan 05, 2019

nairaman66:
Not really, I am talking about his antecedence and body language! His certificate scandal, flouting court's order for dasuki to be released, his thoughts on the killings in the middle belt, not proscribing Fulani heardsmen as a terrorist group, yet he called unarmed IPOB protesters as a terrorist group, his thoughts on Babachir, unable to sack service chiefs especially burutai knowing fully well how they have failed in terms of the security outfit of the nation. The list goes on....

Let us be realistic:

IPOB protesters are enemies of state. They want the country to break up and that is clearly criminal. Sedition is a criminal offense. It is a crime against the government.

Fulani herdsmen are businessmen. Proscribing Fulani herdsmen is like proscribing Cocoa farmers because some Cocoa farmers are killing.

In your opinion, the service chiefs have failed, but that is not everyone's opinion. Sometimes, it goes beyond the service chiefs. Sometimes, all a crisis needs is something else, other than policing or military strategies.

Take for instance the herdsmen-farmers crisis. This is a crisis that began many years ago and has worsened due to climate change. Fight over scarce resources is definitely going to cause friction between farmers and herdsmen.

A good president like Buhari decided to do something differently, rather than send in the troops. There were suggestions of cattle colonies and some other suggestions.

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Christianity Etc › Re: It Is Not The Law Of Moses But God Himself That Tells Us To Give First Fruit by BluntBoy(m): 10:51am On Jan 05, 2019

alBHAGDADI:
You haven't seen me yet you have concluded . It says a lot about you.

What conclusion did I make huh

I wrote that I was beginning to believe...

That is not a conclusive statement.

Christianity Etc › Re: It Is Not The Law Of Moses But God Himself That Tells Us To Give First Fruit by BluntBoy(m): 10:10am On Jan 05, 2019

alBHAGDADI:
You don't understand what he's saying.

He's simply saying we are not saved by the works of the law but by grace through faith. You don't pick a Bible verse and run wild with it. You divide it using scriptures.

alBHAGDADI,

You have become so desperate of late. I am beginning to believe that you are a pastor.

Anyway, tomorrow (Sunday), I shall put this matter of tithe and first fruit to rest once and for all, using just two Bible verses.

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Sports › Re: Samuel Chukwueze Praised After Impressive Display Against Real Madrid by BluntBoy(m): 9:58am On Jan 05, 2019

Reference:
It is not Nigerians praising him alone. Most of the vibes are coming from Spain itself and you must know that they know football in Spain intoto. The league that has produced the likes of Messi, Ronaldo, Figo, Iniesta must surely know quality when they see it.

The issue is not who is praising him but how such praise has worked on Nigerian players in the past. It appears like many of our players lose focus easily when praised.

Mikel Obi was praised this way too.

Politics › Re: Dino Melaye: Police Releases Photos, Gives Updates by BluntBoy(m): 12:53am On Jan 05, 2019

Philinho:
Be objective with this government and die like Badeh.......APC want to kill Dino .period.

Objective with which government?

Is Dino not part of the Federal Government?

What people-oriented bills have they pushed to the president?

Instead, they were busy fighting for pension for Senate president and immunity for themselves.

In spite of the recession, they would not review their huge earnings.

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Politics › Re: The Moment Dino Melaye Fainted, Dragged On The Floor As He Surrenders To Police by BluntBoy(m): 12:39am On Jan 05, 2019

madridsta007:
I’ve addressed this above, sir.

If they have a warrant of arrest, gotten from the courts— they can arrest him if he has refused to show up on the date on the warrant of arrest given. Institutions that work have a process. Following the process deepens democracy in any society. Flouting the process— synonymized as the “rule of law” crashes institutions and ultimately the society. Like I said, politicians don’t feed me so I don’t really emotionally care about their alleged crimes.

If they haven’t and they’ve barged into his house— whether APC or PDP or an SDP Senator, this is wrong for democracy. Totally, totally wrong. Unless we want to officially declare that Nigeria is a military state, this is wrong.

They had a warrant. The police have said this countless times.

When Dino continued to ignore their invitation, they got a warrant and came to his house but he refused to let them in, lying that he was not at home.

Respected lawyers like Falana had earlier advised Dino to surrender. Evidently, the police had a warrant.

Politics › Re: The Moment Dino Melaye Fainted, Dragged On The Floor As He Surrenders To Police by BluntBoy(m): 10:19pm On Jan 04, 2019

madridsta007:
Read, “Why Nations Fail”, by Daron Acemoglu & James A. Robinson and understand the rapid descent into failed state status which happens when you break down and politicise institutions like the police. Nigerians get intoxicated by seeing their “political enemy” get swallowed by a compromised institution, and I get that. What I don’t get is the almost sworn refusal to see the bigger picture— which will definitely come.

It happened in Somalia. The CAR. South Sudan. Nigeria will not be different. No “prayer” can stop that.

You people reading meanings to every arrest are the problem of this country.

Should we be wondering about the motive for the arrest or whether Dino is guilty?

If not that people have become blinded by their party affiliations, why should they be more concerned about motive than how the accused pleads.

It shouldn't matter to you whether Dino is arrested on election day. What should matter to you is whether he is guilty or not.

Buhari arrests this person, you all shout that Buhari arrested him because the person is PDP. You call it witch hunting.

Shouldn't it matter more to you that at least one corrupt person has been arrested?

Even if Buhari is witch hunting, is he witch hunting innocent politicians?

For me, the motive does not matter. Whether a politician is arrested for electoral reasons does not concern me. What concerns me is whether he is guilty or not. If he is guilty, I'm happy.

This is how Nigerians should think. Party politics is killing Nigerians. Even Saraki, whose family impoverished Kwara state, is a god to some people simply because he appears to dislike Buhari who they love to hate.

Politics › Re: The Moment Dino Melaye Fainted, Dragged On The Floor As He Surrenders To Police by BluntBoy(m): 8:03pm On Jan 04, 2019

alsudan:
Some sick souls think this is cool because their supreme Jihadist is the one enforcing it.

If a Senator of the Federal republic is treated in this manner, then what's the hope of the common man?

He was treated civilly enough.

If it were an American police department, they would have broken down his door since and dragged him out.

You expect the police to be nice to someone who has been resisting police entry for days.

A lawbreaker was captured and you are complaining.

What do you want?

Politics › Re: Dino Melaye Fainted On The Floor After Eight-Day Siege by BluntBoy(m): 7:40pm On Jan 04, 2019

nairaman66:
Everyone is laughing right now at Dino!! But the truth is that we are under an authoritalian system of government!!

Mr president who called himself a saint is using every tool available to him to intimidate and frustrate the opposition and everyone thinks it’s okay!

He has turned Nigeria to a private property enriching his family and friends, he has breached almost every laws of the land and everyone thinks it’s okay! This is a far cry of what Nigerians deserve..

If we were under an authoritarian government, you won't have been allowed to make this post.

The same Dino you appear to be sympathizing with, was one of the advocates for the move to place restrictions on information. Somehow, the rumor got out that it was Buhari that wants to muzzle freedom of speech, when in fact, it was Dino and his ilks.

If you hate Buhari, it is all fine. But to think that an arrest on a Nigerian senator is an act of authoritarianism is just unbelievable coming from a Nigerian.

Dino is not the only politician who has been invited by the police or EFCC.

People like FFK keep on attacking Buhari as though they are paid billions to do so, but they have not been noticed. You think an authoritarian government will allow an FFK or a Fayose to be running their mouths anyhow?

Politics › Re: Court Rejects Dino Melaye’s Application To Remove Police From His House by BluntBoy(m): 9:46am On Jan 04, 2019

shachris02:
mention the court order or shut up forever.

Another pathetically lazy youth. Do I have to spoonfeed you?

Anyway, open this link:

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2017/02/trump-is-violating-the-court-orders-against-his-muslim-ban.html

Politics › Re: Court Rejects Dino Melaye’s Application To Remove Police From His House by BluntBoy(m): 6:42pm On Jan 03, 2019

shachris02:
what court order?

This is an open information.

You are free to search yourself, including how Trump views a certain ban.

Politics › Re: Court Rejects Dino Melaye’s Application To Remove Police From His House by BluntBoy(m): 4:53pm On Jan 03, 2019

shachris02:
No where in this word does a sitting president disobey a court order.

Donald Trump and Andrew Jackson, both of the United States, did.

Politics › Re: Why Do People Support Buhari?? by BluntBoy(m): 4:37pm On Jan 03, 2019

tuniski:
Garbage in garbage out!

I am an agribusiness person and the scheme is propaganda.

There are people in your line of business who are benefiting immensely from this government.

Crime › Re: Photos Of The Policeman That Slapped & Beat Viktoh To Pulp In Lagos by BluntBoy(m): 3:50pm On Jan 03, 2019

This is an opportunity for him to make money.

Education › Re: Cutest Top Three Vice Chancellors In Nigeria by BluntBoy(m): 3:41pm On Jan 03, 2019

hipswrites:
Wait until you see Prof Zana Akpagu of UNICAL. The guy is both cute and stylish

Umm, tell us more about him...

Politics › Re: Renaming FUTA After Shagari Global Embarrassment, Alumni Tell Afe Babalola by BluntBoy(m): 3:37pm On Jan 03, 2019

jconsulting:
The Shehu Shagari University Akure

More like: Shehu Shagari University of Technology, Akure (SSUTA)

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Politics › Re: Renaming FUTA After Shagari Global Embarrassment, Alumni Tell Afe Babalola by BluntBoy(m): 3:36pm On Jan 03, 2019

aadoiza:
Nigerian government and useless moves. SMH

You people should endeavor to always read the news/posts very well.

Afe Babalola gave a piece of advice to the FG. It is not the FG making the move.

This is how you make up stories against the president and some ignorant people will come across it and spread it wider till it becomes popular.

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Politics › Re: Renaming FUTA After Shagari Global Embarrassment, Alumni Tell Afe Babalola by BluntBoy(m): 3:30pm On Jan 03, 2019

7figuresalary:
..This Bubu is a national mistake.. Just immortalizing every Tom,Dick,and Harry..first it was MKO, now Shagari!??
What did he achieve??

When will Ojukwu and Nnamdi Cownu be Honoured??

What does this have to do with Buhari?

You people can't read. You read a piece of news and start spreading rumors against the president.

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Politics › Re: Renaming FUTA After Shagari Global Embarrassment, Alumni Tell Afe Babalola by BluntBoy(m): 3:22pm On Jan 03, 2019

If they like, they can rename it after Adolf Hitler.

But please, no one should ever suggest renaming my beloved University of Ibadan.

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Politics › Re: Why Do People Support Buhari?? by BluntBoy(m): 3:19pm On Jan 03, 2019

tuniski:
These are pure propaganda! Turning parents to beggars won't win votes. The farmers millions is a lie! Govt is just clueless you give farmers loan, they ain't paying back yet, you declare them Success.

This govt is failure personified!

They are propaganda to you.

But for a data analyst like me who travels a lot, I depend on more than news and rumors to gather data.

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