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kissval1388:
Happy Sunday Nairalanders!!!

Am a Catholic from birth, I have these question in mind but haven't gotten an answer..
Here is the question:
Please what is the work of the Reverend sisters in the Catholic church because i know They don't celebrate Mass on sunday..
please any Catholic with an answer should clarify me.. Thanks!!!!

have a nice and blissful Sunday all!!

MhizzAJ:
Malachi 3 vs 10

Cuteimma1:
What is this saying? are you sure you are even going to heaven?

Andy2274:
. This man don't go and kill yourself because of this issue oooo. Because no matter your argument you cannot win any soul here. Why are you taking it soooo personal. You have refused to sleep because of this topic. No give yourself high blood pressure oo. If you are an upcoming pastor and you need members carry megaphone go street and preach the word of God because even if you die on this issue you will not win any Catholic Soul here......because

Mpanyi:
Prove! Prove! Prove your group is from God, that it your church cum group is not one of those that tries make nonsense of Jesus's prayer to His father that his appostles and those that will believe in Him through them may be one. Ok finally, prove there is a God.

Alexandro15:
First of all, it's not nonsense. Please choose your words carefully.

Thank you for acknowledging that those words mean a lot, in fact lots more than our feeble human understanding can comprehend. Those words Jesus muttered on the wood of the cross is far more than what we can perceive from the superficial, but it signifies that the Motherhood of her who bore Christ finds a continuation in the church and through the church symbolized and represented by John.

Andy2274:
. No wonder you are bluntboy. So your mother is a vessel that was used to bring you into the world. The only thing that matters to you father is you not your mother. My brother don't because you want to win an argument start saying meaningless things.

freshboi88:
The guy no get brain

felixomor:
Ewwwwwww
Oya Receive healing.

freshboi88:
All generations will call me blessed, I am part of those who have chosen to call her blessed as a fulfilment of that divine statement and prophesy, what is ur problem with that??

Here's were we differ, the church's interpretation and my personal interpretation is the woman is Mary....so what is ur problem with that??

Alexandro15:
Of course I will. John 19:26-27
..."Woman this is your son... Son this is your Mother..."

The unusual term "Woman" suggests that the Writer (John himself),sees note in this than the gesture of a dutiful son. It is a declaration that Mary, is the mother if all the faithful, in otherword, the church, and John a direct apostle of Jesus, is the representative of the church

Alexandro15:
One of the greatest mistake of Pentecostalism is to try to separate the divinity from the humanity of Christ while he was on earth. Jesus was fully GOD and fully MAN. United in the one person of Jesus are these two natures. In this sense, Mart is the mother of Jesus who is God so she is the Mother of God.
Thus, I echo what the Early church fathers in the year 431 at Ephesus declared: "according to his divinity, born of his Father before all ages, according to his humanity, born of the virgin Mary for us and for our salvation, a union was made of these two natures...in accord with this understanding of the unconfused union, we confess that the holy virgin is the Mother of God..."

There, you have seen it. As early as 431 the early church has already confessed to this truth.

Jesus gave his mother to the church and the church to his mother when he was on the pulpit of the cross. He said " behold your Mother". I don't know about you but I honour my Mother.

As to how many times Jesus mentioned Mary, I think that is besides the point. but so you should know, though the WRITERS mentioned Mary just few times, all of those times have great significant meaning.

Thank you brother.

freshboi88:
That place in revelation said a child not children, we're r u getting thus heretic interpretation. Who gave birth to a child who will rule the world with a staff of authority...is it u or is it me...u guys lack understanding of scripture.

Many in her song of praise, under the inspiration of the holy spirit said all generations will call me blessed.....honoring Mary today is only a fulfilment of that declaration

monex:
so the issue is about an image. hence my previous post about Catholics taking the idea of Symbolic reverence to uncomfortable areas for most non-catholics.

I cannot argue with you about that. it took me time to be comfortable with bowing to a cross of Our Lord.

monex:
do you worship your parents when you bow to them?

Blackhawk01:


I was in primary5 then.

Emperor002:
Mother i love u forgive those who blasphem thee

nairanaira12:
Looks like reason problem is one of your several problems. Read the comment you quoted again and ask yourself why you are quoting me wrongly.

nairanaira12:
Stop being unreasonable. You are just an obstinate fellow. Go back to the series of responses I've already given you and pick your answer to that question from there. I won't waste my time replying you anymore.

Its clear your motive is not to discover the truth, but to push what you feel is the truth down the throat of others.

nairanaira12:
So, you now agree that Mary's birth was preplanned? Why were you lying initially that she was just a vessel? Would you preplan something to be picked and used at random like an ordinary, unimportant vessel? This is very bad.

Like I told you earlier, you are bound as a Christian to honour Mary the same way you will honour your earthly mother.

nairanaira12:
So, you now agree that Mary's birth was preplanned? Why were you lying initially that she was just a vessel? Would you preplan something to be picked and used at random like an ordinary, unimportant vessel? This is very bad.

Like I told you earlier, you are bound as a Christian to honour Mary the same way you will honour your earthly mother.

nairanaira12:
She didn't say "all generations shall remember me..."; she said "all generations shall call me....". They are two clearly different things. Why are you lying in the face of indelible truth, just because you want to win an argument? How does these resonses portray you as a true christian, swapping "call" with "remember" when you know that they are clearly different?

As expected, all you have in form of a response is human knowledge and what you think. This is bad. Your comments show how truly empty you pentecostals are in the face of biblical truth.

nairanaira12:
You don't know how to manipulate what I said; is that why you translate my comment as dodgy? That's what you Pentecostals do. When we hit you with undeniable truth, you start using human knowledge to reply us.

John 19:26-27 said Mary is the mother of Christians. If you don't belive that part, then you shouldn't call yourself a Christian, cos the Holy Spirit should have opened your eyes to these things if you fellowship with him in spirit and in truth.

So, if Mary is your mother, as proved by The scriptures, then you should honour Mary, the same way you would honour your earthly mother.

nairanaira12:
Luke 1:48 shows Mary is not just a vessel. John 19:26 to 27 further drives it home that she is not just a vessel. Genealogy of Jesse is even enough for every Christian that loves the truth to realise that Mary's birth of Jesus was preplanned. Revelation 12 further shows that Mary is the queen of angels.

So, where do you want to hide in the face of these biblical truths?

What did you get through eve? Condemnation

What did you get through Mary? Salvation.

nairanaira12:
Can you imagine. "What if" in describing biblical facts? If this is what Pentecostal faith is about, then I think it is better to remain a Catholic. You guys have no complete knowledge; you are only translating the scriptures to suit what you want to hear, not necessarily the truth (2Tim 4:4).


Since you have no idea, why then did you laugh me to scorn as if you knew what you were saying? Or your spiritual arrogance and pride told you that he is a catholic, he can't know nothing, the same spiritual arrogance that condemned that pharisee in Luke 18:11?

Calling Mary just a vessel shows that you are truly deficient of scriptural knowledge. Read that Like 1:48 again, then look into your mirror and lie to yourself that mary is just a vessel. And did the Cyrus, or whoever, say what Mary said in Luke 1:48? Or you think Mary said those things by herself? No, she was under the influence of the Holy Spirit when she said those things.

Stop grasping at straws. Mary is not just a vesele; she is the mother of the christian faith, and every true christian that loves to obey the scriptures in truth and entirety will honour her.

nairanaira12:
How do you honour your earthly mother? If you want to obey Luke 1:48, you will honour Mary the same way you honour your earthly mother.

nairanaira12:
This is not dodging. I'm just baffled at your ignorance? This message is read during every Christmas, yet you are still asking question about it like, an unlearned christian.

nairanaira12:
Can you imagine the nonsense fake ways you pentecostals are following?

"It is more sensible if the woman symbolise the church." As far as you are concerned, it is about what you "think" and not necessarily what is the truth. Who even told you that what you think is right? Or you feel you are always right because you are not a Catholic? Isn't that stupid and hypocritical?

So the church, according to you, got pregnant and gave birth to a male child and God snatched the child and the church fled to the wilderness? Does that even make sense to you at all?

You clearly lack understanding of that place. So, stop forcing what you think on others. You don't know shiiit.

Kill yourself if it makes you feel better; that place is referring to Mary and she is the second eve that brought grace to the people of God, while the first eve brought condemnation.

Catholics honour Mary, like every christian should do (luke 1:48). I will continue in my belief; you can continue in your unbelief. Do whatever you feel will take you to heaven and let Catholics do whatever we feel will take us to heaven. You are not God and you have no right or place to determine who is worshiping God right or wrong. Neither can you determine who gets to heaven and who doesn't. It is beyond you. Workout your own salvation with fear and trembling.

nairanaira12:
You won't ask me that question if you have been reading your bible. Your question further proves that you have minute knowledge of even basic scriptures