₦airaland Forum

babeosisi:
I hope you wake up soon.shiloh is cursed

Im fully woke my fellow..... you are accursed here. Your people are trying hard to tear down religion in favour of globalism. Immorality and self aggrandizement is yur watchword. Soon yur eyes will open. You’d realize we are not in bondage in Christ, we are free.... and you are the one that has ignorantly mistook slavery for freedom.

babeosisi:
Another brainwashed soul
Ndo

Ofcourse. You’re not brainwashed. You can certainly do no wrong. the all knowing babeosisi

stagger:
People like the OP are the stingy broke and frustrated Nigerians who can never give God one naira, talkless of rendering any tangible help to anyone. Ask him how many times he has ever given a dime to the IDPs scattered all over Nigeria. My wife and I have done at least three IDP visitations and have another one next week. We pay school fees for people, give to orphanages AND we still fulfill our covenant obligations in terms of tithes, offerings and sacrifice.

Every year has been bigger and better and just better. God himself spoke to me in my room about these things way before I even joined Winners. Many people are reaping the benefits of their seeds sown over the years. Why people like the OP think they can think for me, and tell me how I spend MY MONEY (some of which I show below) simply beats my imagination.

Bros I like you in Jesus name

babeosisi:
Ask him how many millions he has made since giving to his pastor and how many millions the pastor has made.
Our people are so dense

You’re the dense fellow here if you think I give to pastor cuz I expect returns. You people ehn. You don’t complain when we give to the needy, u don’t when we spend bulks of liquor and women, you don’t when we spend on various hobbies..... but whenever we give tokens to pastor that dishes out sermons every Sunday, word of truth that “always” have positive impact on peoples lives, you start complaining. As you dey sef, how much have you given to a pastor that warrant so much hatred?? Leave the people of God alone, the reason their blessings is so much is because they impact so many lives with the world of love and hope they share every time. Leave them alone. You people are cruel and foolish. . What if they fly private jets, do they fly it to go on holidays? They only fly it to go on evangelism and talk about God the more!!! Why are you hating Most of them are on fasting most days of the week, How much can they eat or drink?? Those that give are not fool, lawyers give, doctors, professor, high achiever in various careers, are they also dumb? You the only wise fellow who is so sure that this pastors don’t deserve our giving.... haba!! Leave them alone and face your life. Stop opening threads to accuse men of God. Muslims give to their clerics too, traditional priest receives from their ..... leave us alone to gift our men of God

genkins:
My brother or sister I don't blame you.those that taught you are very greedy people.they gave you this scripture s to justify that you continue to give them money.like I said ,you cannot worship God with money.God doesn't need your money.the poor do.not your pastors.christianity teaches contentment.your pastors can be paid a stipend and so are church workers.but they can also be like paul and earn a crown in heaven by preaching without charge.paul said imitate me as I imitate Christ.the only way you can give to God is in Mathew 25 31-46.your pastors pretend they do not know.shalom.read my points in your quote to get understanding

Mumu your problem is your baseless assumptions. No one taught me to give to pastors. It’s my money and no one can coerce me physically or psychologically to give to anyone. No pastor, no preacher, no healer, not even an homeless or needy person can coerce me to help if I don’t want to. It’s out of my freewill. I deem it fit to. I do what I do cus I want to. Try your pseudo wisdom on someone else

Dis guy is waiting patiently, listening to every sermon in Shiloh and Holy Ghost Congress, hoping that adeboye or Oyedepo go misyarn

GoTV:
No mind the brainwashed idiot quoting trash to justify his stupidity. The mumu fit dey owe house rent so o, but they will keep enriching men who don't give a damn about their well being.

No I don’t owe house rent. And I’m surely not brainwashed, and I’m certainly not justifying anything. Thanks tho for trying. The gate of hell will not prevail. Mr al Dajjal

flyca:
Carry your frustrated self out of my mentions!

Nah I won’t, allow me to torment the demon that has possessed you

flyca:
Are you partially blind or intentionally going obtuse? Did you see any word like pastor or priest or any of such in my post? Shift with your foolery abeg!

I quoted you cuz your post reeks of hypocrisy, we all know hard work backed by prayer brings success, but how has your opinion here address the topic. You people are subtly drifting minds away from God. Na una sabi. We shall continue to pray n give. Prayer does everything. Prayer provokes action when you feel inactive. Not the other way round.

And mind you, you’re an adult. I’m sure you can get your opinion through without a curse word. Don’t be childish. Jesus said anyone that refer to another fellow as a fool shall be in the danger of hell fire! Not that it matters if I echo it to yur ear, y’all heart is hardened like stone. May God forgive us all.

1 Timothy 5:17-18 ESV /

Let the elders who rule well be considered worthy of double honor, especially those who labor in preaching and teaching. For the Scripture says, “You shall not muzzle an ox when it treads out the grain,” and, “The laborer deserves his wages.”





Matthew 10:41-42

The one who receives a prophet because he is a prophet will receive a prophet's reward, and the one who receives a righteous person because he is a righteous person will receive a righteous person's reward. And whoever gives one of these little ones even a cup of cold water because he is a disciple, truly, I say to you, he will by no means lose his reward.”


1 Corinthians 9:11 ESV /

If we have sown spiritual things among you, is it too much if we reap material things from you?


Malachi 3:10 ESV /m

Bring the full tithe into the storehouse, that there may be food in my house. And thereby put me to the test, says the Lord of hosts, if I will not open the windows of heaven for you and pour down for you a blessing until there is no more need.


1 Corinthians 16:2 ESV /

On the first day of every week, each of you is to put something aside and store it up, as he may prosper, so that there will be no collecting when I come.



Ezekiel 44:30 ESV

And the first of all the firstfruits of all kinds, and every offering of all kinds from all your offerings, shall belong to the priests. You shall also give to the priests the first of your dough, that a blessing may rest on your house.



2 Corinthians 9:7 ESV

Each one must give as he has decided in his heart, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.



Romans 12:8 ESV /

The one who exhorts, in his exhortation; the one who contributes, in generosity; the one who leads, with zeal; the one who does acts of mercy, with cheerfulness.


Mark 12:41-44 ESV /

And he sat down opposite the treasury and watched the people putting money into the offering box. Many rich people put in large sums. And a poor widow came and put in two small copper coins, which make a penny. And he called his disciples to him and said to them, “Truly, I say to you, this poor widow has put in more than all those who are contributing to the offering box. For they all contributed out of their abundance, but she out of her poverty has put in everything she had, all she had to live on.”

flyca:
I don't know but lemme tell you this:

I'm the least religious person in my family but the most successful (not bragging though). By the way, my family is not even a radically religious one, we are not penticostals. We love God and we worship Him in the most basic way.

But when I left Nigeria, I found out that success (and failure) is in my own hands! Give and take! Hoha!
Your problem here is your shallow thought that we give cuz we expect blessing or succes in return. No we don’t or I don’t. I give cuz I’m promoting my Lords work. And you accusing the pastors of using my money for personal gain won’t stop that. I give to the needy but then I give to the pastors to promote Gods word, I’m not burdened by it, I’m not forced to. I do it to appreciate Gods work in my life, it’s the least I can do to promote his earthly work. If the pastors uses it for their own gain, God will fully pay them. Whatever you sow you reap, no pastor would escape Gods judgement no one will. So it you deem it so right to pay, then pay, if you think you don’t want it then don’t. Ain’t nobody coercing you


I quite understand that there is need for humans to have a believe is some supernatural being but most of our beliefs are born out of sheer laziness. We don't want to do our part. We want someone or something to take responsiblities of our inactions etc.

Examples:
Pray to pass exam.
Pray to be rich.
Pray to buy a house.
Pray not to die (on top bad road, and Dangote truck, seiously?)
Pray to complete a project.
Pay tithe to be rich etc

If you want any of these good result, the only way to get them is to work towards it! Work consistently and persistently towards it! It is only when you have done your best, then the ones you cannot change as a human being, you hand them over to God!

So I keyed into that and I have been succeeding exceptionally! Ameeen o. That's how individuals succed. That's how nations succed!

I remember as an undergraduate, I struggled so much with academics in my early years. I was at that time so distracted in a “good” relationship. Then towards exams, I get serious, read what I can and then pray! Thankfully in my 3rd year, I managed to end the relationship and paid full attention to books! Even without “prayers”, I aced all my courses, clinching a 2'1 by the feet!

I know folks are are not religuous and yet not successful (they know they are living below their potentials). Failure is also in our hands. No man (except maybe your parents) can curse you and it will work because he is your “spiritual head”.
My elder sister just failed an interview last week. When I spoke with her the morning of the interview, I knew she was not ready! Guess what, after the interview, she blamed God. Then she balmed her husband. Lol

I won't tell you what to do, or believe. But please use your brain!

Your problem here is your shallow thought that we give cuz we expect blessing or succes in return. No we don’t or I don’t. I give cuz I’m promoting my Lords work. And you accusing the pastors of using my money for personal gain won’t stop that. I give to the needy but then I give to the pastors to promote Gods word, I’m not burdened by it, I’m not forced to. I do it to appreciate Gods work in my life, it’s the least I can do to promote his earthly work. If the pastors uses it for their own gain, God will fully pay them. Whatever you sow you reap, no pastor would escape Gods judgement no one will. So it you deem it so right to pay, then pay, if you think you don’t want it then don’t. Ain’t nobody coercing you

luminouz:
Hmmmm...flyca flyca

Your problem here is your shallow thought that we give cuz we expect blessing or succes in return. No we don’t or I don’t. I give cuz I’m promoting my Lords work. And you accusing the pastors of using my money for personal gain won’t stop that. I give to the needy but then I give to the pastors to promote Gods word, I’m not burdened by it, I’m not forced to. I do it to appreciate Gods work in my life, it’s the least I can do to promote his earthly work. If the pastors uses it for their own gain, God will fully pay them. Whatever you sow you reap, no pastor would escape Gods judgement no one will. So it you deem it so right to pay, then pay, if you think you don’t want it then don’t. Ain’t nobody coercing you

GoTV:
Where is it written in the bible to give money to pastors?

. Read 1 cor 9: 14

oruma19:
yimu...

Scoffs well, then go check what the Bible says about scoffers..... yinmu all you want, it’s not your money Idk why y’all so concerned about people giving to pastors.

post=73596042:
Nigerian Christian are the most amazing people in way of thinking and research. Honestly 90% of Nigeria Christian doesn't know anything in the Bible. That's why they fall into victims. Your fellow human being like you are using your brain, since you dont wanna use your brain, somebody is there to use it for you.

slowpoke, if you’d read your bible yourself and gulp down everything freeze preaches, you’d ve known that it’s clearly stated to give to the churches and pastors. I can show you if you ask for it

oruma19:
pls stop the lies, no one enjoys doing it, they are cajoled and given empty threats and promises to give and in the end nothing to show. Using God's name to scam pple is bad enof jor. I no judge o, but i know what i am saying cos i v been a victim in the past

Why are you people so bothered ehn. I’m not cajoled, I’m not giving churches cuz of promises or threat. It’s willingly cuz I want to. I don’t give only my church I donate to other churches, churches I don’t attend. And that doesn’t stop me from giving to the needy and homelws I do it all coz I can and want to. Why are y’all so bothered. Why not just stop doing and leave others alone

GoTV:
Even though I'm a born again Christian, I'm ashamed that the fraud called Oyedepo has finally gone mad to the extent of peddling falsehood on the pulpit just to discredit the president. Oyedepo has always been an arrogant, irresponsible con artist hiding under Christianity to perpetuate his fraud. This useless man is not the only pastor in Nigeria and his constant attacks on the president means the anti corruption crusade is biting him hard unlike previous regimes that gave him and his likes import waivers and other soft landing. Oyedepo is a disgrace to Christianity and he's way of life is not even Christ like to begin with. The federal government should give him the Elzaky-zaky treatment should Buhari win in 2019. Such a terrible personality should not be walking free as his utterances are a threat to national security. In saner climes, people like Oyedepo will be terminated to the underworld by the FEDS to avoid impending doom. While Muslim leaders all over the country remain mute and non partisan in the political atmosphere, our useless Christian leaders like Mbaka and Oyedepo are bringing shame to the church. I only pity the Gullible members of winners chapel whose brain is pocketed by the fraudulent vermin called Oyedepo

You are not a born again Christian, if you are, you’d know it’s stipulated to give to the church and pastors even in the Bible

lexy2014:
Being a public school or private school isn't d issue. D issue is that d school has rules which should b applied on all irrespective of religion.

and the rule is simply "no use of hijab" so why are the Muslim finding hard to adhere

Ibrahimmrfish:
So what you are saying is if i am a principal in a public school and i decided to make hijab a most to wear in school,the Christian parents should keep quiet or send their children to another school.Can you hear yourself speaking? Do you know how stupid you sound?

who is this mumu like this.....if the principal decide to enforce the school standard by making hijab a must wear, the christian will either go will the flow or get their ward to another school. and besides, this school in question is a private school. take your trash elsewhere you religion intolerance bigot. Islam claim they r the religion of peace. with what we have seen and still seeing around us, the opposite is the case. they have problem with respecting standards when it's not in their favour.

Ibrahimmrfish:
Because it is a public school and as citizens of Nigeria,they have every right to send their children there.A public school should not be run by Christian or Muslim standard,it should be open to all.

this is abt the school standard.....if you got problem with it take your kids to a Muslim school

timawoku:
bros bus different from danfo... Danforth na the highest transport for lagos and the world

Pls what's Danforth..... Is Danforth same as danfo?? .....old don't say yes else you'd ruin my whole childhood

Topic so important it hit FP twice....

johnkey:
but some stupid dumb foolish shallow-minded idiotic no-sense imbecilic slowpoke hypocritical watery-brain Nigerians still thinks 'igbo' is bad and for the irresponsible ones. some even says it makes you run mad Gawd I wish I have a superpower to wipe such motherfuckers from the surface of the Earth to be seen no more.

And you wonder why they say it makes people run mad

Davido you shall be great......greater heights for you

Kemi ain't perfect, linlin ain't perfect either..... Y'all should talkand sort things out

I sha want adeleke...apc don tire me.

The girl has react to the news

Its straightforward enough.....let the dead bury the dead.......meaning concentrate on what matters cuz we are gonna die. Meaning those burying the dead will soon join the dead. Death will come for everyone. What's more important is to secure for yourself what matters and that's a lovely afterlife.

BedLam:
My mom gave me life.
By now I'd think your love is enough for god? Why does it need mine ?

Ya right yur mom gave you life. Dummy.
Remiel is the angel who takes account and lead soul to judgement, keep on blabbing abt thing u don't know.
There's so much you don't understand
Why fault God when he already warned you of the evil that prevails.
A war is going in on
Leah sharibu is better of. You're looking at pain from the human perspective, do you expect God to do the same?? Will you deny the existence of Good and evil??

BedLam:
I love you too.

Don't love me! Love God, and the Lord your savior. He gave you life!!!

kingthreat:
Another atheist. Keep mocking the faith which billions of people live by. People like you need to be born in places like present Syria, Afghanistan or Saudi, where if you express your ungodly views you get axed. But here is Christianity, peaceful and open to be embraced or discarded without compulsion but you atheists mock us like we are brainless. You want a physical proof of God and if God were to express himself to you, you would still throw your insults. Enjoy your atheism but learn to respect people's faith even though you do not believe in it.

God bless you

BedLam:
You saying god can't give orgas.m? That's bad

Blasphemy......you ant!