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Buhari said Nigerians are corrupt and the citizens crucified him for it. Corruption is not only when you steal funds or take bribe. One can also be mentally corrupt. Nigeria is the weirdest, strangest, most phucked up country on planet earth.

AngryNigerian:
Did anybody notice what i noticed...

Yep. Her makeup artist should be shot.

Unfortunately Nigerians don't understand their history. The Igbo's are marginalized because of the civil war and their undiplomatic and aggressive nature. It is unfortunate but it is the truth. Other tribes have not forgotten yet. Especially the north.

enieme:
this isn't a debate, I'm just analysing the whole situation.
of course the kidnappers did an evil thing, but we should also see how things may have been done better to ensure their capture and the release of the girls.

You said;

enieme:
Thoughts ringing in my head
1- Nigerians price everything from 150m to 5m. I hail!
2- those guys are terribly broke, one can infer they are amateurs and kidnapping may not be their everyday business
3- of what use are the movies we watch about How to outsmart kidnappers. The girls didn't do muchbto help
4- why would the man just pay the money without assurance of how the girls are to get back home? He justpaid and waited when they might as well be dead at the time
5- Nigerian police ( totally inefficient) they couldn't even help track the robbers or at least the ransomer. it like they paid no role at all in this whole busineas
# this kidnapping case isn't interesting enough to be documented

The bold comments confuse me. And why would anyone be waiting for an "interesting" kidnapping case? Kidnappings are supposed to be horrific. Not interesting. Anyway, to each his own.

buygala:
The posters below me tho...

All of them carrying on about how FRSC officials stand in d middle of the road while performing their duty, thus blaming the dude for his own death ... as if they were there when The man stood like Spartacus in the middle of the road and got himself killed...I am still looking for the part where the report says he died while standing in d middle of the road

A lot of peeps get knocked down and killed while walking on the pedestrian lane or even sitting down in their own balconies ...

So it's only right that we just commiserate with d dude's family and stop all the finger-pointing and needless grandstanding .

I am not saying it's right to do silly stuff in the course of doing our jobs... but it's also not right to automatically jump to unwarranted conclusions and blame corpses for their own death

But one has to deduce that that was what happened considering this is the way we see them do their jobs. And they do it not because they love the job but because of the instant and illegal gratification popularly known as "egunje". I have been to many "normal" countries and I am yet to see law enforcement officials standing in the middle of a road trying to stop oncoming vehicles when these vehicles are at full speed. In fact, I am yet to hear of policemen getting knocked down by cars. Nigeria is weird.

chukwudi44:
If omojuwa couldn't even manage a relationship(not) marriage, then why then should he be pontificating on good leadership? No wonder he is called Twitter Orubebe

The way you people think leaves much to be desired.

celebgists:
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enieme:
Thoughts ringing in my head
1- Nigerians price everything from 150m to 5m. I hail!
2- those guys are terribly broke, one can infer they are amateurs and kidnapping may not be their everyday business
3- of what use are the movies we watch about How to outsmart kidnappers. The girls didn't do muchbto help
4- why would the man just pay the money without assurance of how the girls are to get back home? He justpaid and waited when they might as well be dead at the time
5- Nigerian police ( totally inefficient) they couldn't even help track the robbers or at least the ransomer. it like they paid no role at all in this whole busineas
# this kidnapping case isn't interesting enough to be documented

From your piece, it is difficult to decipher if you are in support of the kidnappers or the family of the girls.

OmichaelO:
Really??


And police couldn't track them?

of what use will the guys paraded be?

Not all kidnappers are caught. Even in the west, the first option is to pay whatever ransom demanded then the search of the culprits begins.

"Bold" is an understatement.

mayowaye:
hey, no insult oo, but it seems u doesn't understand what he's trying to say

It is not about what he is trying to say buy what he actually said.

tspun:
you are a product of Nigeria failed system of education.

So you mean you can't read a simple post and pick its meaning, pls go back and read the post again, I don't have time to explain any thing to you.

Actually i am a product of Michigan state university. And I only interprete exactly what people put down on paper. Exactly. It is not my fault that you are s.tupid and don't understand what you wrote.

adult91:
I just tire for mallam life. Aboki no fit change

Exposure matters. And yeah, i'm talking about you.

tspun:
Nice,

this goes a long way to show that the creator of the world did not creat the white folks to be our superior, Nigerian can produce and invent anything that the white can do if only we have the right mentors.

Its a pity we find ourselves in a messed up dungeon called Nigeria.

If those kids were to be in Nigeria I doubt if they would had attained these greatness.

Your post is an oxymoron if i ever seen one. Of course they are superior to us. They are superior because they value life so they try to make their citizens lives easy. You say they are not superior and then you say if they were in Nigeria these kids would never have achieved what they did. Lol... That is an oxymoron

[quote author=olutunde12 post=44106938][/quote]The Nigerian logic can be so illogical.

God cannot help Nigerians. Only Nigerians can help Nigerians. Is it God that will help you build roads or provide power?

BlackTechnology:
With 2500 naira, you can buy 4.5gb

The documentary won't take more than 250mb in 4 different videos if you download in 3gp

After watching the documentary, we can talk further

As I said, I am order and more learned than you

I will continue this discussion after you have watched the video.

2500naira is chicken change for a married man if truly you are.

" The Men Who Built America. "

You keep stressing on this documentary like i'd never seen it before. I watched it on netflix two years ago. It doesn't change the fact that these men could achieve what they achieved because they had the enabling environment to do so. The fact that you don't understand this points to why Nigeria is jacked up. The Nigerian government does not understand this as well. They don't understand that to build a great nation you need it's citizen to have an environment where they can be comfortable to do so.

BlackTechnology:
I am older than you

Go watch the documentary and stop talking trash

Watch that documentary and you will see your orientation change forever.

We have two major systems in the world

The US and Soviet systems.

Most underdeveloped nations unknowingly practice the Soviet system.

Corruption and crime exist in all nations but the degree of it being felt depends on the number of people earning a good living.

In the US system, corruption is not felt because most people are earning a good living which is a revolution Henry Ford started when he paid his workers well and reduced the work time from 12 hours to 8hours and from 6days to 5days in his factory.

If Nigerians are earning a good living, nobody will complain about corruption.

And any nation that seeks to give her people a good living must allow the private sector be the vanguard of development.

I understand now. I have to explain it like I would to a 10 year old. Let's say you want to start a trucking business. How do you do so when the roads you will ply are all bad? From your logic, you would have to build the roads or provide the police force for protection. Or let's say you want to start a communications service. You would have to ensure everyone has power by providing it to every household. Without these ground work, you can never achieve anything. God I hope you understand this. Fingers crossed.

BlackTechnology:
Don't use terms you don't know or understand

US atmosphere allows private sector to supply the infrastructure needed by the people in exchange for money.

The Soviet atmosphere forbids the private sector from doing so.

Nigeria operates a Soviet system.

if Nigeria is to catch up with Western nations, she must allow competitive business people take over.

For your information, corruption and crimes still exist in US but not strongly felt because of the job and wealth created by these business people which gets to the citizens in form of salaries and wages

Now go watch the documentary I told you to watch

Download it through YouTube

Seriously, how old are you? This is the same frustrated feeling i get when i'm arguing with my kid. You said "if Nigeria is to catch up with Western nations, she must allow competitive business people take over" How will they catch up when there is corruption everywhere? no power supply, bad roads etc. These things are created by the government. Is the private sector to enact laws to build roads all over the country? Is the private sector going to provide police for the whole nation?

BlackTechnology:
Go and watch the documentary

" The Men Who Built America. "

if you want to understand better my view

It was and still is competitive business people who provided the infrastructure you see in the US today.

Most railway, you see in US today were built by the business people

US best weapons, satellites, Rockets, electricity , prison service, education, research etc are supplied by these business people.

Thank me later after your confirmation of what I said

Jesus. I AM TALKING ABOUT THE ATMOSTPHERE. THE ATMOSPHERE CREATED BY THE SOCIETY TO ACHIEVE WHATEVER YOU WANT TO. Oh my God!!! Can you achieve anything without the atmosphere and resource to do so? Can you open a factory when there is an atmosphere of corruption rampant everywhere? Or crime? These business people could exist because the government created an atmosphere to do so. Nigeria is a typical example of a country with a horrible atmosphere for ingenuity and invention. The atmosphere exists because the government provides it. Will the private sector create an army or a police force for security?

anigbajumo:
You just dent get my point. He is a Serbian (modern day Croatian) not an American.But he moved to America to work for Thomas Edison not because of favorable environment in America which u insisted on.

You are dragging points you should not drag. Tesla is one example. There are numerous examples of inventions before, during and after the industrial age, and even today that points to it's success is due to the conducive environment in America. The traffic light, the way manufacturers produce things, man landing on the moon, Einstein. Tesla didn't just decide to go work for Edison. He had a better way of improving electricity and he knew the only place he could push his ideas was with the inventor of the light bulb. He and Edison worked for a short while and split. He had to source for support to make his dream come true. IN AMERICA. Let's fast forward to today. The son of a cuban immigrant, a canadian by birth are running for the presidency of the united states. How many countries do you think that would happen. In Nigeria, it's citizens will not support people from a different state of origin to seek office in states other than their home state. Even if they were born in Nigeria. My whole point is the government and it's people does not create an atmosphere that would all for people to reach their full potential.

BlackTechnology:
With due respect to you

It is not the US government that provided those infrastructure but the business people the US government allowed to provide those infrastructures

But in a useless country like Nigeria, the government wants to provide everything and when she can't, she refuses to handover to competent business people

Are you kidding? The private businesses created the conducive laws that enabled an atmosphere of creativity right? Did you read his first post at all?

I wonder why people just let themselves go physically. Girl is getting fatter by the day.

RoyalBoutique:
Tell that to the birds....

Even Americans Use second hand phones and won't buy that reason. Poor quality indeed. There is poor quality because Nigeria's providers are horrible.

babyisUS:
But they are not exactly his points... they are points culled from members experiences.. the OP only collated people's experiences..

I am a chic by the way.

Bros, his point or not, he decided to write about it without doing due diligence. Would you do a write up on everything you read on the internet?

justwise:
Honestly your level of ignorant is limited edition, not too many out there like you.

You haven't said anything.

babyisUS:
So let's say someone else found themselves in your second situation, and didn't have the 200 Euro to pay the fine immediately...what would have been the next course of action? Turn him back right? Would you translate it to mean the person was dubious and stupid?

If you had really taken time to read the OP's intro before listing the points, you'd understand that he got all those points from people's experiences he came across on this page. Without mistakes,there wouldn't be corrections....there wouldn't be lessons learned...
You have stated two situations you have experienced, are you aware that someone has taken note of your case and included them in their list of "things to/not to do" list?.. no information is useless. ..
Yes there are dubious people, no doubt, but there are also, a good number of genuine people who have suffered for many oversights...
Even if u have travelled round the world without hassles, u can only speak about YOUR OWN experience, not about others... and you can't use ur own experience to generalise... I watch Borders Watch and have seen how silly things like people's indomie noodle's packets were ripped apart just to make sure the contents are what they should be...
With these IOs,you can never be too sure.. posts like this shouldn't be spat on like you are doing... thats my whole point..

But the Op's point are ridiculous now. Having your result, having the host country's number on your phone, not having a return ticket, etc. . .bro please.

justwise:
Difficulties to believe that you have left airport departure terminal because you don't need to have traveled to many countries to know this issue.

It got nothing to do with your right, valid visa or your privacy.

You are just too dull i swear. Please show me anywhere where i said it is a right. They want you to come and spend your money. They won't turn you back unless you prove to them you are dubious. How is this so difficult to understand?

justwise:
...been to those countries with mum & daddy?

Lol. . .if only you knew.

justwise:
..again you are wrong. Honestly your experience on this is very very limited.

Count all your fingers and your toes. It won't still add up to the countries in Europe and the Americas i've been to.

babyisUS:
Yes, it's definitely a waste of time and tax payers money to spend on education,all thanks to folks like you who claim to know it all,but actually knows NOTHING...

You were not turned back,but could have... u claimed it was impossible for anyone to meet any hassles at POE unless they are dubious...so should we take it u are dubious hence the IO deemed it appropriate to search through your lappy? The lock was even cut like you were carrying some indicting stuffs!
Thought u are untouchable and u own the POE!!!
Pfffftttt!

Google can't give you all the answers you want. you have to live it to understand it. The OP's post was all about being turned back at the port of entry. I gave an example, where i tried to explain how you could have an infringement and officials would clear you because they know you have nothing to hide because you had an oversight. Want another one. My organization sent me to Germany to complete a project which took 3 years. I didn't know that the SOFA card for my kids had to be renewed yearly while staying in Germany. I completed the project and went back home with my family. A year after that i was sent back for quality inspections and was stopped at the Nuremberg Airport because My name popped up due to my kids. I paid the 200 Euro fine and proceeded on. No one will turn you back unless you are dubious.