₦airaland Forum

The only reason people are saying this is the worst election is because....they lost.

You don't hear Dino Melaye or Ekweremadu saying such.

Excaperx:
Atiku shouldn't go to court

No please he should...

or he'd forever disturb us with tales of how he won but was robbed.

Jamezafolabi40:
Congratulations sir, anyways, Being fake or true, i'm sure you won't say the lifeless bodies are clone

I only take exceptions to that fake video, and your exploitation of a tragedy.

sophiathefirst:
Be bad nah
Who is holding u

I have the solution to your health problem....

safarigirl:
there is nothing wrong with the prosecution doing their own research. You are opppsing her idea, you are not a judge.

Thw video of him flying Tobi is on this same internet, help yourself and stop assuming peopoe are here to feed you. She has done enough just by enlightening you. The onus is on you to enlighten yourself further. Say person show you direction don do, they are not mandated to take you to the actual place.


In case of next time, don't say what you don't know

I remember you

You're that scrawny ugly little annoying busybodi

I'm not surprised you made this your business

If I call you out now for the dumb bimbo that you are, you'll go crying to the mod to get me banned, like the stupid little shiithead you are.

sophiathefirst:
Ok my bad
Both u and ur onus of evidence should Keep waiting.
No be small by law

I'm trying to be nice but you sound like a despicable person

africandollar:
I hope Boeing doesn’t cover this up cos I’m 90% sure the fault was from the plane’s software/control system.. Or else how do explain a new plane that’s just a few months old crashing while we are able to fly our dinosaur-old planes here in Nigeria without any issues?

It's impossible for them to cover it up.

The FDR will expose the cause.

6 minutes after take off on a new plane is scary, and brings to mind the Lion Air crash on similar plane type.

To be honest, when Emirates stopped flying ABV-DXB I took Ethiopian ABV-ADD-DXB. We took off on a triple seven on the first leg, missed our flight in Addis. Then we were ushered into an older 737. Being used to wide bodies, i never felt comfortable in that plane. That was the last time i flew Ethiopian, though they've good safety record. I tried Egyptian and I must say Ethiopian is far better.

That plane really is screwed up by Boeing.

Jamezafolabi40:
How on earth would you call that a PC flight stimulator.

Because I own several copies. Both FSX and XPlane.

That's the fakest video if i ever saw one

That's a PC flight simulator.

Why are you useless people capitalizing on a tragedy for internet attention?

Felixhenry:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCKn67QsWUM

Oh please.

It clearly says Cargo on that old video which is a collection of pictures.

Until they find the flight recorders no one can tell WHY the plane crashed.

WhoBeThisMan:
it's funny how u use the word "killings" so casually.

Truth can be so ugly

DMerciful:
In all our religious inclinations in Nigeria, the ironic thing is our latent wickedness so that one would wonder isn't the religion supposed to make us good? It seems to me we're seriously fighting over nothing!

You've remarkably summarized my whole point!

77up:
You are wrong here chuches i think are the one guilty of this .


But all in all , tolerance is the key !

Like I said, yes churches did preach to their people to vote for certain interest groups.

So?

Did we do any less?

As much as I dont like religion mixed into politics, I am not offended if people think conforming a certain way would better their interests. Isnt that what politics is all about?

In the US the evangelical body tends to the Right because conservatism fits their worldview. Should the Left be offended and damn them?

As long as you dont hound me for my beliefs, you're free to give your votes to whomever you please as well I have that right too.

That being said, my problem with the church is how they demonize and consecrate Islam as something abhorrently evil, something to be feared. That offends me deeply. They joyfully propagandize it on podiums on TV and radio....and they gloat about being untouchable, about how Nigeria will"go up in flames" if they're arrested.

That's one aspect of the truth. But truth is universal. We too have imams preaching hate, and we like to tell ourselves it's in reaction to the stance of the church. Now my mission is not to cast faults; my aim is to address fault lines and hope we all overcome this petty squabble of whose religion is right.

To me, Islam is the true religion, to others theirs is.

Big deal.

"Lakum deenukum waliyadeen". To each, his own.

77up:
Hummm may God bless the wise man behind this moniker, with about 3 comments from this handle, one must accept the fact that you are blessed with wisdom.


On to that issue, we are all guity of this hatred and this hatred has gennerated to all areas in this generation.


Go to market places even in public vehicles, unnecesary transfer of aggression is all you ll see.

When i was in primary school, we used to drink water in any house when coming back in the afternoon but now am sure no one can try such .

I entered public vehicle last time , from the back i was trying to streched my hand to pay driver but cant reach him and sadly no one can help among theother passengers.

A man beside me told me that its now trending style because most people believe that the moment they touch my money , their destiny ll suffers it.

Its all act of hatred, we insults ourselves on SMs on a mere issues now the hatred is growing between tribes, politics , places of work , market place and even in churches and mosques.


We can only get over this by individually check ourselves and picture it out where we have gotten it wrong because our unity i believe its non negotiable.

Thank you

It starts from me and you looking inwardly and asking ourselves the profit of hatred. What did the wise Master Yoda say? "Fear leads to anger, anger leads to HATE, hate leads to suffering..."

No one feels better for hating someone, and no one should be encouraged to.

Yes I don't trust christians because I dont expect them to wish well for me. But I can very well live my life focused on things that impact me meaningfully and positively without wasting away consumed by hate. Hating someone wont mean I'll make it into heaven; respecting their rights as long as they dont impede my rights makes heaven that much closer.

If the youth should learn anything, it's that they're being used to perpetuate the system of corruption that benefits only those old geezers.

They weaponize our hate into something potent and destructive.....for the gain of someone in gilded mansions. Do we destroy those mansions in our fits of rage? No we destroy the essence of society, we destroy our humanity.

SillyMods:
And Kaduna, with more population of Muslims than that of Christians, should not be able to call to prayer over the loudspeaker because it is multicultural environment in your own estimation? And it is ok for Christians to blare away in places they're only about 20% of the population?

You try!

Stop trying to force words down my mouth

I never said it was ok.

I'm blaming both sides.

yavo2:
Nigeria is finished

Because your candidate lost?

WhoBeThisMan:
wisdom starts the moment you stop being partisan.

I don't support pdo or apc or what ever. I didn't even vote. But see what our country has become. Look at how many people have lost their lives because of election.. The leaders don't even care. Nigerians has given up hope for the country my guy something Ned to be done urgently

What even do you attribute that makes this the supposed worst?

Killings?

In 2011 there was religious crises as an outcome of elections in Kaduna, Bauchi, Kano, and other parts of the country. Hundreds, if not thousands, were killed. Property worth billions of naira were destroyed.

And that does not qualify as the worst in terms of loss of life?


Why were elections peaceful in more than 90% of the country except Rivers which has always been the epicenter of electoral thuggery and violence? Even before and after primaries people were busy killing their opposition.

MrCuteking:
Last last, it was a free and fair election.

Congrats to the winner.

When will they give the youths opportunity to run this country?


Love quality and affordable shoes? Check my signature.

Youth ke.

The youth are the same people used to bastardize elections. Who snatches ballots, and harasses other thugs?

Besides, remember a certain Dimeji Bankole? Remember FFK in his prime as Min. of Aviation (most air crashes in the history of aviation in Naija)?

There's no study that says the youth have done better, or will ever do better. But there's a lot of empirical facts that the youths destroy democracy as willing pawns.

Ijaycool:
Na soo, so Inconclusive didn't contest?

It's becoming obvious that PDP is still strong in the Kadashian Territories of Kano, Kadunna and Katsina. How they were floored in the Presidential Election is becoming more worrying.

An average Nigerian picks a party, then vote that party throughout the Election, why is this one different? Are Nigerians no longer average or the Rigging was Next Level?

Fortunately some people in the North are wiser than people in the South, in that we vote individuals and not parties wholesale.

The fact is, whether PDP or APC at the national level, the North was not really losing if we go by the current sentiments of politics.

Same for kaduna, where both contestants are muslims.


So we vote for individuals....we dont care their parties. In Katsina PMB lost one NASS seat in his PU.

This should be a lesson to all. Parties are largely interchangeable and hence the cross-carpeting.

The day we vote party lines is the day the parties actually stand for something.

fuckerstard:
Who else prefer the plain doughnuts with jam inside and little sugar on its body.

Why did you do that?!

Now I can't stop slobbering.

Ennyson7:
you are totally wrong, CAN and other christian authorities have been silent for long for so long, they are just waking up to their responsibilities as the umbrella for christian protection in Nigeria. The moslems and their leaders have been so guilty of this for so long, and the christian bodies are reciprocating, it now becomes a problem of whos more vocal. U seem to forget history of religious violence in Nigeria or ure just blinded by ethno religious reasons

But this is also part of the problem.

When CAN, and JNI, start meddling in politics and giving it a religious coloration, it makes matters worse.

Such bodies should be more concerned with their belief systems and not with political systems.

We can all see how GEJ almost bastardized the church by hobnobbing with pastors, giving them millions of dollars, using their aircraft to procure weapons, etc.

We also saw it recently when Imam Gumi and some choice assortment of pastors and clerics were at Ota farm to broker peace between Atiku and OBJ. Such optics dont help any argument beside interloping and meddling.

SillyMods:
I can't blame El Rufai for choosing a muslim deputy for the fact that it was undiluted hatred he was repaid with even with a Christian deputy.

I mean, there is a limit to what anyone can stomach in any given circumstance. He has dared the consequences of choosing a Muslim mate and he has triumphed.

The high time the CAN in Kaduna, and indeed in Nigeria, retrace their divisive steps.

Only a biased commentator will argue against the fact that the Christian leaders in Nigeria fan the embers of divisiveness through their numerous hate preachings.

I have not negated the contributions of southern kaduna christians to the problems in kaduna, especially the outright denial of the murder of some 66 muslims.

I also am not blind to the fact that the church has gone to great lengths to demonize Buhari and El Rufai by peddling all sorts of lies and calumny against them on the basis of religion beyond the limits of gladiatorial contest allowed by sportsmanship.

But we should also not be blind to our own prejudices. I remember vividly the sentiments of our people when Yakowa was governor. Now, we need to remember that politics is temporal rulership which does not stain our divine beliefs.

If you sit a christian from southern kaduna down and ask him why he hates you as a muslim, he'll in all likelihood tell you he hates you as a muslim because you hate him first as a christian, and vice versa.

And that is the crux of the problem.

I'm not making excuses for any faith or political system, I'm just stating matters as I see them and you're at liberty to disagree on account of your own perceptions, and I respect that.

I only wish we can separate politics from religion and choose leaders who'll elevate our status in life and not people who'll ride on our sentiments and do nothing for 8 years in office and we hail them as heroes.

SillyMods:
You are completely wrong about this your position on Call to Prayer by Muslims.

Calling to prayer (Adhan) loud over the loudspeakers has become almost mandatory in Islam where there is no imminent threat in doing so. A call to prayer doesn't last for more than 3 minutes at most. This is 15 minutes a day and why this should be a source of worry to anyone is beyond common sense. Can call to prayer by muslims be likened to the endless preaching over the loudspeaker, day and night, by Christians?

No where in any part of the Quran or Hadith does it say Adhan must be proclaimed loudly over loudspeakers. But there are verses where the rights of others are extolled as fundamental parts of Taqwa.

In a monocultural society sure, you can blare away. But in a multicultural environment where you can impede the rights of others, you can perform your rites in ways that are acceptable to Islam without infringement.

This is similar to how muslims block public roads during friday and Eid prayers as some sort of divine or cosmic rights.

No.

You cannot block public passageways and deny others their rights. All prayers must be conducted in properly designated mosques.

We are not human if we do not accept our mistakes when practicing our religion.

DMerciful:
Nope! Sometimes it's about equity! Read about the evolution of the Belgium political system, they were having political tensions and wars until they enshrined it in the Constitution to have the 3 major ethnic group have a percentage representation in every government! The major groups are the German Belgians, the Dutch Belgians and the French Belgians!

True.

Like I said elsewhere, not every society is homogeneous enough to practice true democracy where majority carries the vote.

In mixed or heterogeneous societies compromises work best.

The country that even popularized the phrase "majority carries the vote", the US, does not even practice true democracy of numbers, else Clinton would've been in the WH and not a certain Mr Trump

WhoBeThisMan:
your country is falling apart can't you see? These has been the worst elections Nigeria has ever known. Damn

Really?

The worst?

Stop exaggerating, just because the losing PDP says it doesnt make it so.


The worst elections were each one conducted by the PDP. Remember a certain persona non grata called Maurice Iwu? Remember the 2011 elections, or the 2007 one that ushered Yaradua who said his own election was fraudulent?

Everyone, with the exception of sore losers, believe this is the best.

sophiathefirst:
Mtcheew
So I should start looking for pictures to prove what to u
Please! U re free to believe it or not. It adds nothing to my life abeg

Why are you angry?

The onus of evidence is on you by law.

If it adds nothing to your life then why did you bother in the first place?

No license plates = lease

Meanwhile why do these people always pose:

1. With phones as if they're on a call (so 1990)

2. Always looking at their phones as if they were on WhatsApp?

What's with that trend?

None of FFK's "information" has proved accurate before....

sophiathefirst:
He has done so.
He flew Tobi just last week

Evidence?

No disrespect to the dead...but people always pray and post such messages before a trip. Nothing new or eerie about it.


If he had any premonition he wouldn't be on that flight.

I'm yet to see this "pilot" actually flying a plane

APCsupporter:
We have said enough about religion. Lets talk about the elections now please

I dare you to separate the two if you can