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@ brokensword, US is cool but you'll love the alternative building solutions from asia. (Malaysia, Singapore are area of interest). Their building style seems to match with ours in Africa.

FastShipping:
Did Maverrick pay the 400K to you or was the so called guy who "gave the fake approval" there when Maverrick paid you the 400K?

It is a straight forward thing. Just say it whether you are refunding the 400K or not.

With the last sentence, I am 100% convinced you are not prepared to refund a penny. That is unfortunate to say the least.

I've refunded people over 4m on here so 500k is nothing to talk about here. Sorry if that come as been rude.

I asked 3strike the same question just this afternoon on out chat that I paid the Omo Onile fee on his behalf with his sister, if another group of people come back to tell us we paid fake people, will he ask me to refund?

Maverrick paid the guy through me. It's like I want to buy a car from FastShipping and brag3 recommended him to me. I believe it's not fair to call brag3 a thief because I feel FastShipping defaulted.

The approval guy was part of the transaction from day one and the only part I was involved is the transfer of fund.

Bros, this is not something I want to dwell on. You come to me as a gentleman hence my reply. This discussion is getting boring.

@ brag3, FastShipping and the whole forumite

I'm not the one holding Maverrick money. I'm just a post office in this transaction. Hence my reason for asking Maverrick to let us go to Lagos Office to go and shout on the guy to refund us for the fake approval. How hard can that be?


Trust me, everyone here is just trying hard to convince themselves that Brabus has ripped off Maverrick which I'm ready to face anyone (even the government) to proof my innocence. My discussion with hajji is that I didn't sign the document or have Lagos state approval stamp in my room, so I'll have to get the fund back from the guy both of us knew but if there's anyway we can get this done together (myself and Maverrick) faster, the better for us.

So sir FastShipping, am I paying Maverrick or not? Yes! When? When I recovered the funds.

crisisng:
I think we have all tried and if Oga Haji has said that he has taken the camels to the River but dem never ready to drink water yet then ebe like say na war go end this ooo.

@ crisisng, na patience no be war go resolve this matter. Maverrick no fit fight me. He's just bittered at the moment. He'll soon get over it. But I think this case will die natural death if we let the sleeping dogs lie.

I'm open for dialogue and further discussion on the subject matter on other platform apart from this forum. You may want to setup a group chat for us to discuss a final resolve.

Meanwhile, I'm in discussion with 3strike at the moment that I'm doing this on the condition that he's ready to make peace with EgunMogaji. He's still doing the shakara but he knew I won't back out until he gives in.

Let's make the world a better place.

Oghumu1:
Advice..

He's got a choice then since you're not his father or lord over him.

Exline101:
PLEASE I NEED ADVICE.......HOWFAR CAN 10M GO IN BUILDING A STOREY BUILDING OF SIX FLAT?? PLZ AM A LITTLE CONFUSED NOW COZ ALL I HAVE TO SPARE NOW IS 10M, SO I DON'T KNOW IF I SHOULD USE IT TO BUILD A BUNGALOW FOR PRIVATE USE (PERSONAL HOUSE COZ I DON'T HAVE A HOUSE OF MY OWN) OR A STOREY BUILDING FOR COMMERCIAL( RENTING) THOUGH I KNOW 10M CAN'T FINISH A STOREY BUILDING OF SIX FLAT BUT HOWFAR CAN IT GO?? ADVICE NEEDED.

NB: I ALREADY HAVE A PLOT OF LAND IN OWERRI,IMO STATE.

N10m should be able to give you carcass of 6 units of 2 bedroom flats in Owerri. Here's the link to what I did for N10m in Lagos between January and April 2015. https://www.nairaland.com/2089904/desmond-flats-ogombo-nexthome#29736333

Just get a good hand and closely monitor the disbursements. I am sure it'll get you a carcass. Building materials and labor charges in Owerri is cheaper than Lagos.

Do commercial. You won't regret you did.

I like the concept. Bring back Abami Eda.

euromilion:
Bros Brabus good to see that you are ok,we were all worried for not have seen nor heard from you in a while,we miss u man,pls sort things out with Maverick so that we can all go back to normal.

One love.

I'm sure my pastor is already sorting it out with him. I was told yesterday that he's been on his (my pastor's) neck since past 3 weeks or so.

Much respect bro. Baba I'm always here at all time. Just call my name and I'll be there. Though I may not dignify every comment with a response.

Oghumu1:
Even tho he's an ambassador of slot, is he the only one?? Have u ever seen Olamide advertising Etisalat in any of his video? I don't know for other artist bug D'banj should quit music and face business. He's already a successful businessman and I respect his hustle.

Advice or Decree?

Bisjosh:
It's not a song one can dance to

Just learn the steps. It's different from the norm.

Demainman1:
Thanks for this insight Brabus. Does this mean you no longer use marine boards for your work? I think it is an improvement to buying all these woods and wasting trees.

I think what we need are companies that specialize in scaffolding installationd instead of one person being jack of all trade like in your case.

Before any installation is done please ensure materials and funding for casting are already in place so that you don't tie your equipments down in one site for up to 6 months.

Brabus, if God answer my prayers for money I will surely employ your talent one day. Your presentations and interior decor skills are up there with the best of them.

God bless.

Oga, I still use marine boards and I'll continue to use in my projects but truth be told as much as we want the best finishes, not so many people can afford the cost and moreso Government is not helping the matter at all. A lot of these items are supposed to be subsidized for builders and developers whose main target is to deliver affordable homes by the government.

If you do cost comparison of using timber and marine board. A 300m² slab built using a marine board will cost 625k while timber will cost 324k. The big gap is what I saw and I wish I could bridge for my clients but most people still feel like "Why does it cost so much?" "Are we not just renting the boards?"

As per ensuring that material and fund for slab are intact before commencing work, I wish we have many people who can do that. We have a lot of interesting reads online this days to buttress my point. How am I supposed to know the client is bouyant or not? The Oga who came in his G Wagon, using 800k wristwatch, and he wanted to build 6 duplex at once. It's not until recent I discovered that "Not all that glitters are gold"

There are shutter and formwork rental companies around and more people are joining the business. We hope the issue will be addressed in not too distant future. Just recently, I was able to do the formwork of a 4 board raft foundation (500sqm) for just 300k (cost covers formwork/shutter rental, labour and disassembly). Such deal will help drive down construction cost and help homeowners with small budget to build without compromise. And also help us builders to focus our mind to priority areas.

Demainman1:
Prof Spyder, I am still full of admiration for your work and integrity. More God blessings sir. My question is,

Do we not have marine board in the east for decking etc? Brabus is making good use of those in Lagos. It is quite cost effective in the long run as it is reusable and the finishing is also great.

Kindly research it and become the pioneer in the east if possible

Sir Demainman1, you mentioned my name.

Some business models and tactics can never work here in Nigeria. I can agree that marine board is good, efficient, economical in the long run, easy to install and more inportantly, it makes a construction work looks more professional. But!!! It comes at a price.

When I started hiring boards as part of our business model to build a quality house at the most affordable price, I never thought of the following problem:

1. Delay period
2. Storage and Transportation
3. Cost of maintenance.
4. Economic value to clients.

Delay Period
As good as marine rental business is, I've had to face the harsh realities. One project was held down for 4 months after we've installed boards, reinforcement and was just about to cast. The reason was due to lack of funding. We couldn't pull off the board and we just had to leave with the issue. Another one was 6 months period of waiting.
Unless there's a firm agreement (which I really don't know how it can possibly work in Naija), this is going to cause some irregretable losses to both parties (the contractor and the owner). For me now, I'll suggest a marine board to clients, tell them about its advantages and disadvantages. So if you can afford it, you can buy.

Storage and Transportation
This is one of the most overlooked aspect of construction that eat deeply into our budgets. To run a successful rental business, you'll need a truck or van and employ able hands to assist in the transfer to/fro the boards to various sites. Now, these also comes at a cost which is not so favorable to an intending home owner. I can still remember one site where the locals took our boards and converted it to a table tennis. They even painted it.

Cost of Maintenance
I cannot really dwell much on this part but the boards need to be well maintained at all times.

Economic Value to Client
Except you're constructing a multi floor house or handling multiple units of houses, marine boards are not so economical in the long run for single builds.

Now, if you ask me as someone who have run the model before. Does it really worth the effort? I'll say "NO" it doesn't worth it as the client always feel cheated even though the contractor is making heavy losses on the rental.
Marine boards are very expensive and it's not an option when everyone is looking for affordable build.

@ DoubleRoyal,

Hajji has said it all. 2 maximum or 1 big one with a partition.

3 septic tank for a 2 bedroom house get-as-he-be if you remember that song by Late Orlando Owoh

Pls call me when electricity tariff don come down. I'll be fine with local concoction (alternative energy) than taking a pill/poison prescribed by this government.

Until all streetlights starts working effectively on electricity, I won't take any government serious.

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The Chateau in Silverpoint, Badore | Another waterfront build by NextHome

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Opinion Takers

I want to ditch the tiles. I wanna consider the alternatives (vinyl, laminated floor, carpet tiles, custom rugs, hardwood flooring, hardscape, etc). What are the drawbacks?

Let's discuss!


My Concern: I'm just sick and tired of doing things the conventional way. Why must it be tiles? What happened to paladina, terrazzo, marble flooring? What happened to stone works? Are we so lazy now? Could dearth of skilled professionals be the reason?

FastShipping:
I agree good things are not always pricey but EBM stands out any day. Getting the right fabricator is the most important thing now.

Also, I have not completely ruled out aluminium profile.

Baba, it's all about creativity o! I can use the cheapest material to wow you. As a matter of fact, I'm a fan of cheap and lovely.

More reason why I love Skimanski's work. It's just the interplay. Site work don't allow me more time for R & D again. I used to comb the streets for new ideas and concepts.

@Fastshipping,

The possibilities are endless. I can see the guy is doing EBM but you can still get a better design if you work with a good detailer and fabricator.

Times like this always make me want to be jack-of-all-trades.


Take a look at the window below (picture taken from The Reserve by NextHome). We made us of the cheapest Aluminium profile (one of those thin profiles you hated ) but we came up with a very different arrangement that makes it appealing to everyone who visited the house.

Someone else would have opted for a different design with some funny partitions that will take away the beauty. That's exactly what I mean by getting your designs detailed and getting a good fabricator who can build to specification. Many times good things are not always pricey when the direction is clear.

@ Excuzeme and the whole house,

Thank you all. You are a breath of fresh air in a smog of confusion. As always the Elder really do provide excellent advice as we proceed with this journey we call life. However, I am going to take some time to try and solve this, and I'll put my dreams and wants on the forefront. Don't ask me what they were - you'll soon realize

Appreciate all your time and understanding!

Most appreciations goes to numerous callers from the overseas (just can't believe the number) and my biggest Bros Hajji Mufutau55 and EgunMogaji for your time.

You continue to inspire us to do more. Meanwhile, let the learning continue. Agarawu23 is our host for the week.

FastShipping:
As long as these materials are available, we should be able to find competent fabricator. I don't mind paying for few just to see if the fabricator can do it right as I want before we go ahead to fabricate everything.

I've placed a caveat on recommending people. Otherwise, I could have shared number of a guy who can come with various samples of Big Profiles and probably a toilet window made with EBM. I doubt he can bring a much bigger size due to cost and weight.

But they don't need to tell you. The difference is clear!

^^^

Sure they can. Even any other profile can get you that or something close especially if you visit Tower Aluminum office or the Aluminum Village, Lagos with your design requirement.

The problem is not non-availability of the material. The problem is with the fabricator who chooses to use what he knew as against what the design required.

Hope you get it now.

FastShipping:
Can you name one company that fabricates EBM into windows and doors? I am not a fan of the so called uPVC. They are too thin for my liking. I prefer big profiles.

Visit Aluminum village. Subuola street, there are local fabricators there.

You'll need to go with your window and door schedules, though.

You can see what you posted above in Ikeja. Just ask for EBM. That's the name of the profile.

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The uPVC guys here are in Badore, Lagos. We have a number of them here (3 of them in Badore) including the popular Golden Ever (Chinese company) at Langbasa, Ajah who are the biggest maker of uPVC Windows around but I settled for this because my job requires close supervision since they're custom built Windows. Chinco won't allow me use into their facility.



Pic - UPVC door (Made in Nigeria)

But if asked what led me to this guys, it's the neatness of their jobs. Big profiles and the lock mechanisms.